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dilly
14-03-2005, 18:17
sheffield accent bang on i love it!i think its rate sexy!what does everyone else think?

Kristian
14-03-2005, 18:18
I'd tell you if I understood the question! :huh:

dilly
14-03-2005, 18:24
that the sheffield accent is sexy,what does everyone else think???!!!!

Kristian
14-03-2005, 18:26
Personally, I don't like it. I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.

K x

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 18:30
LOL

I'm not a native to Sheffield and I'm not reet keen on it either. The only person that I have heard that sounds remotely sexy would be Sean Bean - but he's got that macho aura that surrounds him ;)

Kristian
14-03-2005, 18:33
Originally posted by Moonfire
LOL

I'm not a native to Sheffield and I'm not reet keen on it either. The only person that I have heard that sounds remotely sexy would be Sean Bean - but he's got that macho aura that surrounds him ;)

When I mentioned people on TV, I didn't mean one of the handful of celebrities that Sheffield produced, I mean people interviewed on the news or on game shows etc. :rant: They always seem to choose the people with the broadest accents!

K x

Hubert
14-03-2005, 18:34
its horrid, i have quite a strong accent and its a real handicap when im talking on phone at work and such

I love the scott accent and also middlesborough has a good one

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 18:38
Originally posted by Kristian
When I mentioned people on TV, I didn't mean one of the handful of celebrities that Sheffield produced, I mean people interviewed on the news or on game shows etc. :rant: They always seem to choose the people with the broadest accents!

K x

I was just giving as an example - maybe it was a bad one but hey, no offence meant :)

I have just got used to it now and I don't really notice it now - well apart from when the kids say watta instead of water ;)

dilly
14-03-2005, 18:38
well i am from nottingham and i have many friends in sheffield and i think its a wicked accent,we say quite a lot of the same words eg mardy,rate.alrate,mi sen,mashin, snap etc and i qiute often get folk askin me if i am from yorkshire as i seem to develop an accent when i talk to people from sheffield.

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 18:39
Originally posted by Hubert
its horrid, i have quite a strong accent and its a real handicap when im talking on phone at work and such

I love the scott accent and also middlesborough has a good one

a Middlesbourough accent can be really difficult to understand - I find, in fact peole from Glasgow as well - if they have got a really thick accent :(

dilly
14-03-2005, 18:43
i aint rate keen on scots accent i find it very difficult to understand.does anyone find there is a large difference in accents from sheff to rotherham to barnsley to leeds etc?

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 18:46
I think that Rotherham is more Northern Yorkshire sounding

Kristian
14-03-2005, 18:49
Originally posted by Moonfire
I was just giving as an example - maybe it was a bad one but hey, no offence meant :)

I have just got used to it now and I don't really notice it now - well apart from when the kids say watta instead of water ;)

No offence taken; I wasn't having a rant at you babe, I was ranting about the idiots they put on the telly!

Sorry for confusion! :thumbsup:

K x

pdrnsf
14-03-2005, 18:53
Sexy? I think not!

Why is it that people say ALL RIIIITE instead of all right and OVER THEARE instead of over there?

MMM? confused me when i first moved here!?!

foxy27
14-03-2005, 18:54
Originally posted by Kristian
Personally, I don't like it. I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.

K x


You wanna listen to somebody from Barnsley!!

(you dont really!)

Hubert
14-03-2005, 18:56
The Scottish accent is said to be the most "friendly" accent which is why alot of call centres are built up there.

Having said that i dont like the accent i LOVE the diallect

words like snap and tuck and the sayings etc are all brilliant and are alot better than cockney rhyming slang and the like

Ey up bud, does tha fancy gonna ale house for some snap?

we have some great words in sheffield, just a shame us younger folk tend not to use them as much, and opt for words like "wicked" instead of "smashing"

dilly
14-03-2005, 18:56
i dont know anyone from barnsley only rotherham and sheffield the rotherham accent seems less broad to me?am i right in thinking this?

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 18:59
Originally posted by Kristian
No offence taken; I wasn't having a rant at you babe, I was ranting about the idiots they put on the telly!

Sorry for confusion! :thumbsup:

K x

Not a problem :D :D you didn't have to apologise though ;)

dilly
14-03-2005, 18:59
one of my favourites is "working 9 while 5" i have always said that and people look at me as tho i am a mentalist down here they just dunt get it!

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 19:00
okay - I have to ask what is snap?

dilly
14-03-2005, 19:04
snap=food. are you from sheffield moonfire?

rubydazzler
14-03-2005, 19:07
This is great .... it took me right back to being a little child and listening to the men from my father's works ... Barnsley accent is a bit stronger than the old Sheffeldish ... but still .... I have to agree with dilly .... mmmmmmm!

http://www.barnsleylife.com/tonythepitpony.htm

tha's just gorra luv it ant tha?

tosh13
14-03-2005, 19:08
Originally posted by Kristian
When I mentioned people on TV, I didn't mean one of the handful of celebrities that Sheffield produced, I mean people interviewed on the news or on game shows etc. :rant: They always seem to choose the people with the broadest accents!

K x
A handful Tut Tut .Sheffield produced loads of singers,band & other famous people have come out of Sheffield.I would name them but I don't have 50 fingers on 1 hand LOL

Kristian
14-03-2005, 19:09
Originally posted by tosh13
A handful Tut Tut .Sheffield produced loads of singers,band & other famous people have come out of Sheffield.I would name them but I don't have 50 fingers on 1 hand LOL

I wondered who would pick up on that! ;)

K x

muddycoffee
14-03-2005, 19:20
Originally posted by Kristian
Personally, I don't like it. I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim
I know what you mean Kristian, but everone thinks the same of their home accent, unless they're from London. That's why people clip their accent a little when they live away from where they come from.

Just the same, when I am in a band doing a bit of a punk song all backing vocals have to be in a cockney accent. It really does sound very very wrong if you do them in a sheffield one.
Baron Joe Strummer, Sir Sid Viscious and Lord Ian Dury would be spinning if they could hear us..

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 19:45
Originally posted by dilly
snap=food. are you from sheffield moonfire?

no I was born in London, but we have been here about 7 Years

tara
14-03-2005, 19:55
Still have to laugh when actors try to do the sheffield or rotherham accent
as in the drama of the miners strike the other week.
they can never say nowt its always nawt.
nawt being a lancashire pronunciation.
Perhaps they should take lessons from sean Bean.
In the morrisons advert his sheffield accent still comes through. lol

Alanbro
14-03-2005, 20:13
This accent thread's been brought up before.
Are you getting short of ideas.
What's wrong with the Sheffield, Yorkshire accent?
What's wrong with any accent?
Nuff said!

t020
14-03-2005, 20:14
I don't like strong Sheffield/Yorkshire accents (I can't really tell the difference between Sheffield and Barnsley accents other than a higher proportion of people from Barnsley seem to speak with a strong accent than in Sheffield).

rubydazzler
14-03-2005, 20:17
Originally posted by t020
I don't like strong Sheffield/Yorkshire accents


is there anything you DO like ... in Sheffield or anywhere else ...???

no - wait! don't answer that ..... :)



:banana:

MobileB
14-03-2005, 20:18
Originally posted by rubydazzler
is there anything you DO like ... in Sheffield or anywhere else ...???

no - wait! don't answer that ..... :)



:banana:

Chavs?

t020
14-03-2005, 20:19
Originally posted by rubydazzler
is there anything you DO like ... in Sheffield or anywhere else ...???

no - wait! don't answer that ..... :)



:banana:

Keep on topic please.

mega_monty
14-03-2005, 20:20
Originally posted by t020
I don't like strong Sheffield/Yorkshire accents (I can't really tell the difference between Sheffield and Barnsley accents other than a higher proportion of people from Barnsley seem to speak with a strong accent than in Sheffield).

After working for 3 years in Barnsley you can definately tell the difference :D even noticed I had started to pick up Barnsley lingo myself.

Kristian
14-03-2005, 20:23
Originally posted by t020
Keep on topic please.

T020 to be made a mod? Hmmmm :D

tara
14-03-2005, 20:24
yes i found the nearer you get to barnsley you find yourself saying things like- a dunt know and slightly pausing then enphasising ends of words.
if you know what i mean.

rubydazzler
14-03-2005, 20:30
Originally posted by t020
Keep on topic please.

t020 - you're a moderator now, as well?

Some of us don't seem to like to think we have a local accent ... but I have to say I find the local accents far less jarring than the awful accents from areas such as Bexley Heath and Essex ... I can't stand the way they drawwwwwww out every word ... I'm constantly wanting to jump in and hurry them up ... and the weird pronunciations .... :rolleyes:


I think the local accent sounds quite good on a man (yes. yes being a bit sexist here I know) and I like to hear a bit of a Yorkshire burr ... so I'm still on the mmmmmm! side of the discussion ...

t020
14-03-2005, 21:21
Originally posted by rubydazzler
t020 - you're a moderator now, as well?


No, just a conscientious and rule-abiding member. :cool:

pdrnsf
14-03-2005, 21:48
Well, i actually do like living here!

Its better than Scarborough! Although a shame my family dont live here too, although im trying to persuade them!

My little sister is ten and shes trying to speak sheffield, e.g "Are we going ooouutttt" if you know what i mean!

She thinks that she will fit in at school here if she can talk "Sheffield" Bless!

t020
14-03-2005, 21:50
Originally posted by pdrnsf
Well, i actually do like living here! Its better than Scarborough! Although a shame my family dont live here too, although im trying to persuade them!


I like living here, I just don't like the accent (when it's strong especially).

owdlad
14-03-2005, 21:57
Originally posted by t020
No, just a conscientious and rule-abiding member. :cool:

Well done t0, and it's only taken a mere 3800 ish postings too :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

redrobbo
14-03-2005, 22:29
I arrived in Sheffield approx 17 years ago. It's not the accent that puzzles me - but the words! I recall going into a baker's shop in Hunters Bar and asking for 4 cobs. The assistant gave me 4 loaves of bread! When I explained that I only wanted 4 cobs in order to put some cooked meat inside them for lunch - she rounded on me and said "Then why didn't you say breadcakes then?'. Breadcakes?! I still can't adjust to this nonsensical word. The Sheffield accent isn't anything extraordinary, (and certainly ain't sexy!) - but then me dah's a geordie, so I could be biased?

Oh....and a gennel is really a twitchel; and why don't Sheffield chippies understand the phrase 'a fish and mix' (which is simply shorthand for fish, chips & peas)?

Oh.....and 'snap' was sometimes called 'packing up'. Both were used by Notts-Derbys coal miners for their sandwiches which they took with them down the pit for their mealbreak.

Kristian
14-03-2005, 22:37
Originally posted by redrobbo
I arrived in Sheffield approx 17 years ago. It's not the accent that puzzles me - but the words! I recall going into a baker's shop in Hunters Bar and asking for 4 cobs. The assistant gave me 4 loaves of bread! When I explained that I only wanted 4 cobs in order to put some cooked meat inside them for lunch - she rounded on me and said "Then why didn't you say breadcakes then?'. Breadcakes?! I still can't adjust to this nonsensical word. The Sheffield accent isn't anything extraordinary, (and certainly ain't sexy!) - but then me dah's a geordie, so I could be biased?

Oh....and a gennel is really a twitchel; and why don't Sheffield chippies understand the phrase 'a fish and mix' (which is simply shorthand for fish, chips & peas)?

Oh.....and 'snap' was sometimes called 'packing up'. Both were used by Notts-Derbys coal miners for their sandwiches which they took with them down the pit for their mealbreak.

Breadcake isn't so strange is it? Clearly if you grow up using a certain word, you don't question it's origin in most cases. But the word 'bread' has universal meaning in England, and cake is surely a fair word to use for such an item?


5 entries found for Cake.


1. A sweet baked food made of flour, liquid, eggs, and other ingredients, such as raising agents and flavorings.
2. A flat rounded mass of dough or batter, such as a pancake that is baked or fried.
3. A flat rounded mass of hashed or chopped food that is baked or fried; a patty.
4. A shaped or molded piece, as of soap or ice.
5. A layer or deposit of compacted matter: a cake of grime in the oven.


K x

Moonfire
14-03-2005, 23:16
Breadcake is just in Sheffield - it is also known as a bap in London and a barm cake in Manchester

Nimrod
15-03-2005, 00:12
A few years ago I was listening to a discussion on Radio Sheffield about accents. Tony Capstick was talking to an American girl about her study of accents and dialect. She said that in the USA there was only four or five different accents across the whole country and that she had heard four or five different accents over ten miles in this country. Dont be ashamed of your accent, it is part of your heritage.Be proud of it ,use it, preserve it for future generations.

bellis
15-03-2005, 00:24
its a well know fact that in the wealthier parts of sheffield some of its residents eat fish and chips out of a briefcase so they dont look common

redrobbo
15-03-2005, 01:04
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kristian
the word 'bread' has universal meaning in England, and cake is surely a fair word to use for such an item?

Hi Kristian - bread comes in different shapes and sizes, e.g., loaf, cob, etc. Cake is a different food product altogether. Only in Sheffield have I come across this peculiar merging of two words to describe a bread product. How did cake get added to the word bread? I hail from not 40 miles away from Sheffield, and yet had never encountered this odd word until my encounter with a shop assistant in Hunters Bar.

Have recently joined the forum, and enjoy reading the threads. I enjoy reading yours - and think you should know that you still have a large gay following!

Kristian
15-03-2005, 02:20
Originally posted by redrobbo
Hi Kristian - bread comes in different shapes and sizes, e.g., loaf, cob, etc. Cake is a different food product altogether. Only in Sheffield have I come across this peculiar merging of two words to describe a bread product. How did cake get added to the word bread? I hail from not 40 miles away from Sheffield, and yet had never encountered this odd word until my encounter with a shop assistant in Hunters Bar.

Have recently joined the forum, and enjoy reading the threads. I enjoy reading yours - and think you should know that you still have a large gay following!

Why, thank you kind sir! :blush: My feeling about the breadcake thing is mostly related to the fourth meaning of 'cake'; (A shaped or molded piece, as of soap or ice). I appreciate that's it's not common usage outside this area, but I just find it funny that other find it so odd, if you take cake in this context.

It's always nice to see new folk around here; welcome to the forum redrobbo! :thumbsup:

K x

willman
15-03-2005, 07:25
well im sheffield born & bred & the accent is easily controllable if we wanted, but why do we need to impress any one else.
at least we don't pronounce bath with an r in it. barth.

willman
15-03-2005, 07:27
if you think breadcake is a bit weird trying asking fo a "fishcake " in the chippy & see what you get.12 miles away in Worksop you get a breadcrumbed lump of mush.

fhain29
15-03-2005, 07:48
I always thought "cob" was a Notts word for something we in Sheffield call "breadcake" but is generally in Standard English called "roll".

I think the Sheffield accent sounds homely, but people speaking do sound very dim. I love exaggerating it, starting every sentence with "waaaaay".

rubydazzler
15-03-2005, 08:28
I'm fascinated by how every thread about Sheffield is infiltrated by a discussion about why a breadcake is called a breadcake ... it this a breadcake plan for world domination??

but come on, I mean - it's so obvious ... it's bread and it's a flat round cake shape .... :rolleyes:

To me a cob is a crusty lump of dough, a bap is a soggy lump of dough and a roll is a little roundish lump of dough. Only one thing is worthy of the name BREADCAKE, all the others are just pretenders to the throne ... other area's attempts to be like us

Long live the breadcake ...!!


and don't even get me started on the the whole "fishcake" versus "rissole" saga .....

OK you can go back on topic now, t020 :D

tara
15-03-2005, 09:37
The de dars comes from old norse a viking influence.

thats if were staying on topic lol

RichD
15-03-2005, 10:43
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rubydazzler
and don't even get me started on the the whole "fishcake" versus "rissole" saga .....
[/QUOTE
What's a rissole? :confused:

Come to think of it, what is it that Sheffielders call a fishcake? Cos my impression of one is a round flat bit of minced fish, covered with breadcrumbs.

NJMUK
15-03-2005, 11:38
I'm trying to deal with the whole cob thing having lived in Heanor for a year (between Derby and Nottingham) they do say chip butty but only if it's normal slices of bread, otherwise it's a chip cob but we never say chip breadcake! Wierd! As for fish and mix, christ knows what thats all about.

Have to say one word that varies the most is Genel (not sure of spelling to be honest). They call it a channel or jitty (spelling?), and Mancs calls it a ginal or something like that, but never hear of twitchel (WTF?).... Strage all for a little path that you can walk down...........

redrobbo
15-03-2005, 11:57
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NJMUK
[B]I'm trying to deal with the whole cob thing having lived in Heanor for a year (between Derby and Nottingham) they do say chip butty but only if it's normal slices of bread, otherwise it's a chip cob but we never say chip breadcake! Wierd! As for fish and mix, christ knows what thats all about.

Have to say one word that varies the most is Genel (not sure of spelling to be honest). They call it a channel or jitty (spelling?), and Mancs calls it a ginal or something like that, but never hear of twitchel (WTF?).... Strage all for a little path that you can walk down...........

Hi NJMUK.

The Twitchel is actually a street name that occurs in Kirk Langley (near Derby) and in Sutton-in-Ashfield (Notts).

A fish and mix is, on reflection, a peculiar phrase - but every chippy in Derby-Nottingham area will know what you are ordering.

Ey up me duck - give my regards to Heanor - I used to live in Ripley. Here in my adopted Sheffield, there is a smashing greeting to friends and strangers alike - a simple 'love'.

Tat-ta 4 now.

SUPERTYKE
15-03-2005, 13:04
It is a fact known only to learned scholars of phonetics, that the Yorkshire dialect, and particularly that used in the south of the county, is one of the most economic methods of conveying information. When time is of the essence, ( a Rotherham baker trying to sell you a 'tea bap' for instance,) brevity can mean life or death. For example," Nardendee, tek thi tea bap n' shuvit, dee dar daft n' ".

Moonfire
15-03-2005, 13:23
bloody hell SuperTyke!!! :/ what was that?!!!!

buck
15-03-2005, 13:39
When my cousin Ernie, he of the broad accent, came to visit us in America, a waitress asked him if he was Norwegian!!

StarSparkle
15-03-2005, 13:40
Originally posted by NJMUK
I'm trying to deal with the whole cob thing having lived in Heanor for a year (between Derby and Nottingham) they do say chip butty but only if it's normal slices of bread, otherwise it's a chip cob but we never say chip breadcake! Wierd! As for fish and mix, christ knows what thats all about.

Have to say one word that varies the most is Genel (not sure of spelling to be honest). They call it a channel or jitty (spelling?), and Mancs calls it a ginal or something like that, but never hear of twitchel (WTF?).... Strage all for a little path that you can walk down...........

When I first came to live in England (from Edinburgh) I was really confused by the variety of terms for 'bread products'! What I'd call a 'roll' seems to be a 'breadcake' here, and a 'cob' in Nottinghamshire.

And there seems to be complete confusion over what a 'bap' is :o

That little path you can walk down - in Edinburgh that's known as a gennel (not sure of spelling). Fascinating that the different words for it obviously have the same source word, modified by local accents!

StarSparkle - still can't make head nor tail of a Glasgow accent!

Moonfire
15-03-2005, 14:07
Originally posted by buck
When my cousin Ernie, he of the broad accent, came to visit us in America, a waitress asked him if he was Norwegian!!

LOL

wendy
15-03-2005, 14:16
Originally posted by dilly
i dont know anyone from barnsley only rotherham and sheffield the rotherham accent seems less broad to me?am i right in thinking this?

Depends which part of Rotherham I've known Rotherhamers with broader accents then most Sheffielders.

Hubert
15-03-2005, 14:22
well a roll is like a short / long sausage shape of soft bread

a cob is a circle of bread with a crispy outside

a bap is a circle of soft bread

a breadcake is a collective term of all the above.

our strangest little feature has to be our use of "love"

As a stereotype, yorkshire folk are simple and dont like anything progressive or "different"

Look at our parents / grandparents and their general feeling on people who are gay, not a homphobic comment but generally in my experience people dont accept gay people as readily round these parts

with this in mind why do grown men call other men "love"


maybe its just that, the idea of you being gay is so absurb calling someone "love" means absolutely nothing.

But i know a few people from outside yorkshire who were genuinly very worried about the type of bar they were entering when being called love by some HUGE 40 year old bouncer

Moonfire
15-03-2005, 14:38
that worried me too - more for my honey, you understand :)

redrobbo
15-03-2005, 15:35
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by redrobbo

Here in my adopted Sheffield, there is a smashing greeting to friends and strangers alike - a simple 'love'.

Hi Hubert - I found your post intriguing. As gay man myelf, I find this common use of the word 'love' as a greeting very reassuring. Not sure what your experiences have been, but I have only once encountered homophobic attitudes (from a former neighbour across the road) in all the years I have lived in Sheffield. Maybe it has something to do with calling everyone 'love'? It instantly breaks down barriers between strangers.

Hubert
15-03-2005, 16:05
i dont mean to make it sound like everyone in sheffield are gay bashers, far from it. Sheffield has a massive mix of people and beliefs.

Maybe its because i come from a "traditional" type family and work in the steel industry again very traditional.

But my experiences are that being gay is seen as something of a taboo

the point im trying to make is that "love" is something i alway see as an odd greeting, for the people who say it.

Your right though, it does tend to be a very friendly greeting, but an odd one all the same.

Its hard to explain i guess if you have lived in sheffield and being greeted with "love" is just a daily thing. But like i say for people who live from outside of yorkshire it is very strange.

Moonfire
15-03-2005, 16:06
see it doesn't always work though. "Darling" doesn't work but I do think calling you "Duck" is cute :)

Hubert
15-03-2005, 16:08
duck and chuck are brilliant words

StarSparkle
15-03-2005, 17:14
Originally posted by Hubert
duck and chuck are brilliant words

On first moving to Yorkshire, I found it very odd to be addressed by complete strangers as 'love'. It was irritatingly over-familiar at first, especially compared to Edinburgh's habitual glacial reserve towards strangers.

However, I've got used to it now, and in fact quite like it! It seems friendly to me now.

The nearest Edinburgh-equivalent is probably 'hen' :gag: I REALLY hate that! (Probably same idea as 'chuck' or 'duck'?) Can't remember though whether it's for men and women, or just women.

StarSparkle

Kristian
15-03-2005, 17:21
Originally posted by StarSparkle
OThe nearest Edinburgh-equivalent is probably 'hen' :gag: I REALLY hate that! (Probably same idea as 'chuck' or 'duck'?) Can't remember though whether it's for men and women, or just women.

StarSparkle

StarSparkle,

Is it Glasgow where they say 'doll'?

K x

StarSparkle
15-03-2005, 17:34
Originally posted by Kristian
StarSparkle,

Is it Glasgow where they say 'doll'?

K x

Couldn't tell you about Glasgow, Kristian, but I've heard it used in Edinburgh. Not anywhere near as often as 'hen' though.

I think it's really nice when I get called 'doll' though - sounds very complimentary!

StarSparkle :)

feargal
15-03-2005, 18:33
I love "love" and "lovey"! One of my friends was very surprised when a large scary-looking bouncer at the Leadmill told him "in you pop lovey". He also enjoyed being called chicken by the woman behind the bar. I think it made his night, these out of towners are very easily pleased!

stevie1957
15-03-2005, 18:50
Originally posted by Kristian
Personally, I don't like it. I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.

K x

I’ve got one for the politically correct brigade to jump on……

Kristian said “I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.”

Had Kristain said “I cringe when I hear people from the West Indian community being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim. Kristain would be called a racist.

…..so if you say someone sounds dim because of their accent (on tv or otherwise) then Surely you are ACCENTIST.

:hihi: :hihi:

dilly
15-03-2005, 18:53
Originally posted by stevie1957
I’ve got one for the politically correct brigade to jump on……

Kristian said “I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.”

Had Kristain said “I cringe when I hear people from the West Indian community being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim. Kristain would be called a racist.

…..so if you say someone sounds dim because of their accent (on tv or otherwise) then Surely you are ACCENTIST.

:hihi: :hihi:


lol thats a rate good point! :)

Kristian
15-03-2005, 18:56
Originally posted by stevie1957
I’ve got one for the politically correct brigade to jump on……

Kristian said “I cringe when I hear people from Sheffield being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim.”

Had Kristain said “I cringe when I hear people from the West Indian community being interviewed on TV, because they normally sound a little bit dim. Kristain would be called a racist.

…..so if you say someone sounds dim because of their accent (on tv or otherwise) then Surely you are ACCENTIST.

:hihi: :hihi:

It's not accentist, it's blumming true! :thumbsup: :D

K x

Pilon
15-03-2005, 21:51
Originally posted by stevie1957


Surely you are ACCENTIST.

:hihi: :hihi:

I am studying in Southampton, and, although I know how to "talk proper" when I'm addressing strangers etc., I'm constantly told to repeat myself, even after almost three years of living here. My accent is both picked up on and picked upon daily, which is definitely a form of prejudice.

"Accentist" is a good neologism. I also like to use "Regionalist".

Mind you, I'm a pretentious bugger... ;)

Draggletail
15-03-2005, 23:50
Originally posted by rubydazzler
This is great .... it took me right back to being a little child and listening to the men from my father's works ... Barnsley accent is a bit stronger than the old Sheffeldish ... but still .... I have to agree with dilly .... mmmmmmm!

http://www.barnsleylife.com/tonythepitpony.htm

tha's just gorra luv it ant tha?
This is a top link rubydazzler - am mailing it to my father in law (Essex born and bred) he loves yorkshire dialect. Never understood why he laughs so much when he hears it though :suspect: :hihi:
Edit: Am still 'lakin wi this' twenty minutes on....
No 34 is my favourite:thumbsup:

Kristian
16-03-2005, 04:02
Originally posted by Pilon
I am studying in Southampton, and, although I know how to "talk proper" when I'm addressing strangers etc., I'm constantly told to repeat myself, even after almost three years of living here. My accent is both picked up on and picked upon daily, which is definitely a form of prejudice.

"Accentist" is a good neologism. I also like to use "Regionalist".

Mind you, I'm a pretentious bugger... ;)

My friend once told me that when she went to Cornwall to study her geology degree (now working in a call centre! :hihi: ) that her housemates used to take the mick of her (hmmm - that's not good English!) for saying he was going to 'wash the pots!! I never considered how silly that phrase sounded until she pointed it out!

K x

stevie1957
16-03-2005, 06:48
Originally posted by Pilon
My accent is both picked up on and picked upon daily, which is definitely a form of prejudice.

"Accentist" is a good neologism. I also like to use "Regionalist".



I like the use of "Regionalist". The political correct lot will be rubbing their hands with glee with something else to “bang on about”. :hihi:

I work with a “Ms” (note not Miss or Mrs) :hihi: PC person who is always boring us to death with what is the latest in political correctness.

Moonfire
16-03-2005, 11:51
I got called "flower" today ;) - if ever I heard a sheffield term then that is it :)

SUPERTYKE
16-03-2005, 13:52
SORRY if I FREAKED YOU A BIT MOONFIRE. I was being a bit sarky towards the ,'Sheffielders are stupid brigade!' And what can sound more sexy, whispered lovingly, of course , than ,"Eyup Maggy, tha's gorra reyt bonny flat cap?"
Sounding sexy appears to be more important than actually being sexy apparently.Dont they know how sensitive and gentle we tough northerners can be? I could eyt thi between a breadcake lass!
G'nite...

StarSparkle
16-03-2005, 14:31
Originally posted by Moonfire
I got called "flower" today ;) - if ever I heard a sheffield term then that is it :)

I'm probably completely wrong here, but I associate 'flower' with Manchester?

When at uni in Manchester one of my flatmates had a Mancunian boyfriend (now there's a shock!) who used to call everyone 'flower', even my boyfriend! It was a bit weird at first, but he was so friendly it got to be really nice!

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

feargal
16-03-2005, 14:34
Does poppet count as "Sheffield"? I love that one as well!

Moonfire
16-03-2005, 14:50
poppet, as far as I know is a French thing - but I could be wrong ;)

feargal
16-03-2005, 14:55
Is it? Wow, I'm bi-lingual then!

Kristian
16-03-2005, 15:01
Originally posted by feargal
Is it? Wow, I'm bi-lingual then!

Then you'll be welcome here! (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28703&highlight=gay+scene) :thumbsup:

K x

Moonfire
16-03-2005, 16:08
that will be two languauges then ;) :D :D :D

stevie1957
16-03-2005, 21:53
Originally posted by StarSparkle


I'm probably completely wrong here, but I associate 'flower' with Manchester?



Same with “duck”. I always associated it with Chesterfield/North East Derbyshire.

StarSparkle
16-03-2005, 22:54
Originally posted by stevie1957
Same with “duck”. I always associated it with Chesterfield/North East Derbyshire.

And with North Nottinghamshire as well.

redrobbo
16-03-2005, 23:23
Originally posted by stevie1957
Same with “duck”. I always associated it with Chesterfield/North East Derbyshire.

'Duck' is a greeting used throughout Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. " 'Ey up me duck " is a standard greeting. It is prevelant in the Erewash valley (the river Erewash divides Notts from Derbys). 'Fraid I still use it even in Sheffield - don't half get some strange looks on occasions!

cgksheff
16-03-2005, 23:29
Originally posted by Moonfire
poppet, as far as I know is a French thing - but I could be wrong ;)

poppet/puppet ... from french: poupette = small/little doll

Moonfire
17-03-2005, 06:20
Originally posted by cgksheff
poppet/puppet ... from french: poupette = small/little doll

that is so sweet :) now I know :)

Sultana
17-03-2005, 11:39
A've reit enjoyed readin all t'threads abaat t'Sheffield accent. Its true that it is a hard one to imitate and you can spot a phoney accent miles away. Just to go back to the discussion about breadcakes - in Halifax, they call a breadcake a tea cake, and what we call a tea cake, they call a currant tea cake!

A proper fish cake is 2 slices of potato with a layer of fish in the middle. What uneducated (non-Sheffielders) call a fish cake, is in fact a rissole.

Love to see Yorkshire written phonetically - stuff like tintintin.

Aa'll si thi.

SUPERTYKE
17-03-2005, 15:38
Come now, Redrobbo, lets not exaggerate; our courteous shop assistants would hardly 'ROUND' on anyone for wrongly describing an item! (Especially in the Hunters Bar area) Lets drop the pretension along with the occasional 'aitch' and embrace the richness of the accents and dialects of the nation.

Dilly, Alenbro, Nimrod and Willman ARE SPOT ON . Amongst others, truly of the Yorkshire attitude. Welcoming, down to earth and sexy! Grrrrr!

My acent is not too strong, my father hailed from London and maybe thats the reason for my tolerance, but I love the sheffeld tongue (behave), the broader the better (behave)and even geordie has some charm.
Sithee.

redrobbo
17-03-2005, 20:46
Hi SUPERTYKE - on a busy Saturday morning, with a queue of customers, and you've just tried to hand a customer 4 large loaves of bread, and he then starts quibbling that that is not what he wanted - believe me, I was rounded upon! But I was forgiven when the shop assistant realised I was not a local.

More Notts-Derbys dialect...... 'Ark at it - just 'ark at it'
Translation = Just listen to the sound of rain on the window pane.
(But I confess that not even Notts-Derbys dialect is sexy).

SUPERTYKE
18-03-2005, 16:27
Eyup! Redrobbo,
I'm just glad you weren't in a butchers shop asking for seven inches of Black Dag! - The mind boggles!

But at least the shop assistant came good in the end.

Black Dag? I DARE YOU TO ASK AROUND AS TO WHAT IT IS!

Allthough, I wouldn't be surprised if the term is known in the N.E. As, I found many words around the 'STEEL RIVER,' (your Steel River that is, the Tyne) were often the same or similar to the ones used around our, 'Steel River'.
Though obviously, there were many Geordy words that I found confusing.

Talking about cakes baps rissoles etc,; I loved those battered, seasoned balls of mushy peas that are sold up there, top scran!
cheers mideer.

Greybeard
18-03-2005, 19:39
Originally posted by StarSparkle
I'm probably completely wrong here, but I associate 'flower' with Manchester?

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

Well Brooksy's dad used to call me 'flower' and he was a Sheffield as they come :D

Swiller
19-03-2005, 18:38
Hi, I'm new to the forum, but have loved it soooooooo much!

I'm Sheffield born n "bread" (baps n breadcake pun there folks!)

I've a strong Sheff accent, and use alot of (what my mates call) "old saynigs" such as:

Luv
Sweetheart
Me old! - as in alreight me old mucker!
Chief

Is it just me or am I getting old before my time? But I love me accent. I do have to change it when talking to customers on the phone but slip back into it so easily.

Here's a new mini debate are crumpets pikeletts or pikeletts crumpets? Had manay an argument with this one with Sheffielder's and out of towners alike!

Swiller.

dilly
19-03-2005, 18:45
in nottingham we do use a lot of the same words eg : love,flower,alrate,mi sen etc
I often have people commenting on the fact i sound as though i am from yorkshire maybe its to do with the fact i am north nottm/derbyshire??!Being a hairdresser i talk to people all day and at least twice a week people ask me how long i have been in nottingham.not complaining mind as i do love the accent!
:)

cheeky_gee
20-03-2005, 11:31
well i think it is quite normal but that is because i am used to it .but sheffielders arent usualy on tele so it doesent realy matter.like we think the cockney accents and newcatle are strange the probably think the same about us.but i think it is normal.wierd or what.:suspect: :suspect: :suspect: :suspect:

redrobbo
20-03-2005, 16:17
Originally posted by SUPERTYKE
Eyup! Redrobbo,
I'm just glad you weren't in a butchers shop asking for seven inches of Black Dag! - The mind boggles!

But at least the shop assistant came good in the end.

Black Dag? I DARE YOU TO ASK AROUND AS TO WHAT IT IS!

Allthough, I wouldn't be surprised if the term is known in the N.E. As, I found many words around the 'STEEL RIVER,' (your Steel River that is, the Tyne) were often the same or similar to the ones used around our, 'Steel River'.
Though obviously, there were many Geordy words that I found confusing.

Talking about cakes baps rissoles etc,; I loved those battered, seasoned balls of mushy peas that are sold up there, top scran!
cheers mideer.

Whi, howee ya wee bairn, SUPERTYKE.

For the record -
me dah's the Geordie in my family. I hail from the lower Erewash valley on the Derbys-Notts border - a fairly nondescript place, with no known claim to fame whatsoever.

7" of Black Dag? Hmmm. Seems some folk can't help boasting!

dilly
20-03-2005, 23:19
Notts /Derby border....DH lawrence,the land of hey up mi duck and who could forget....the super rams!:thumbsup:

BrainThrust
20-03-2005, 23:30
Wow! apart from in my own family this is the first time i've ver heard a reference to 'Black Dag'

Thanks for making my genetic relations not feel that weird to me anymore, before that I was sure I was adopted!

Wilf

SUPERTYKE
21-03-2005, 11:58
I'd better reveal the mysterious truth behind the weird world of the BLACK DAG, for those who's relatives indulged in secrecy and shame. My niece was terrified of the sight of it, (truly), when she was small, and has never quite got over it!
It's black pudding!! Yes, congealed blood and lumps of pale fat. Apparently miners (mainly) used this term. Come to think of it, it is a bit scary! But nonetheless irresistable. Black Dag--MMMM.

SUPERTYKE
21-03-2005, 12:05
No worries Brainthrust. I think some people and regions apply it to other things too. May the Dag be with you.

technophobe
21-03-2005, 12:15
mmmmmmm Black Pudding had some at the weekend at the New Norfolk Inn (A57) with mash and crispy bacon. It was gawjous!!!

I love the Sheffield/Yorkshire accent due to being born and bred in sheffield. I dont like the Sheffield drawl though the scuzzy/chav speak.... it takes away the love of the true sheff accent.

My dad, now sadly passed away, used to call everyone 'Love' even other males and he was built like a brick s*** house, worked in the Steel Industry at Attercliffe and complained daily about the price of beer!!! and before anyone says it we didnt have a whippet!!! thats Barnsley!! lol

Most of the older generation in Sheffield are sooooo friendly and still use all the old terms GREAT....

Kristian
21-03-2005, 23:05
My Grandad was Irish, and came to England in the 1930's while in his late teens. He lived in Ecclesfield most of his life, and used to use colloquialisms of the village, but with an Irish accent! It was quite comical to hear him, especially when he went on a rant!

K x

SUPERTYKE
24-03-2005, 13:33
Originally posted by technophobe
mmmmmmm Black Pudding had some at the weekend at the New Norfolk Inn (A57) with mash and crispy bacon. It was and still use all thgawjous!!!

I love the Sheffield/Yorkshire accent due to being born and bred in sheffield. I dont like the Sheffield drawl though the scuzzy/chav speak.... it takes away the love of the true sheff accent.

My dad, now sadly passed away, used to call everyone 'Love' even other males and he was built like a brick s*** house, worked in the Steel Industry at Attercliffe and complained daily about the price of beer!!! and before anyone says it we didnt have a whippet!!! thats Barnsley!! lol

Most of the older generation in Sheffield are sooooo friendly e old terms GREAT....

SUPERTYKE
24-03-2005, 14:11
I've just lost loads of typing trying to reply to Technophobe-- Drat!
I was saying how brave you are going down the A57 to partake of the precious dark stuff. Dodgy road!

And yes, what's so terrible about using the word 'love' as a general term of affection? Or should we never even hint that we might just be able to have a little affection for a stranger?
God forbid- we might just be accused of being human. Or, God even forbidererer, of being gay.
Are we diluting the meaning of the word? I think not. When I whisper the word to my sweet irreplaceable doggy, he knows exactly how I mean it!
And please, you people who feel somehow degraded, talked down to, or slighted in any way by the term, lighten up a tad, lifes too short.
Bye Y'all ;
May the Dag be with you....

ToryCynic
24-03-2005, 14:25
Originally posted by Hubert
The Scottish accent is said to be the most "friendly" accent which is why alot of call centres are built up there.

Having said that i dont like the accent i LOVE the diallect

words like snap and tuck and the sayings etc are all brilliant and are alot better than cockney rhyming slang and the like

Ey up bud, does tha fancy gonna ale house for some snap?

we have some great words in sheffield, just a shame us younger folk tend not to use them as much, and opt for words like "wicked" instead of "smashing"

I personally prefer to be put through to the call centre in Wales than the one in Scotland when speaking to Lloyds-TSB!

Alex

Cyclone
24-03-2005, 14:50
love doesn't just imply a little bit of affection and is normally used as a term of endearment between people who are very close.
I find it mildly offensive when someone i've never met before and don't know calls me love.

Originally posted by SUPERTYKE
I've just lost loads of typing trying to reply to Technophobe-- Drat!
I was saying how brave you are going down the A57 to partake of the precious dark stuff. Dodgy road!

And yes, what's so terrible about using the word 'love' as a general term of affection? Or should we never even hint that we might just be able to have a little affection for a stranger?
God forbid- we might just be accused of being human. Or, God even forbidererer, of being gay.
Are we diluting the meaning of the word? I think not. When I whisper the word to my sweet irreplaceable doggy, he knows exactly how I mean it!
And please, you people who feel somehow degraded, talked down to, or slighted in any way by the term, lighten up a tad, lifes too short.
Bye Y'all ;
May the Dag be with you....

Cyclone
24-03-2005, 14:53
should just add my sheffield credentials based on other posts.

Technically I was born in Nottinghamshire, Bassetlaw district general, but have lived with a sheffield address all my life.

Fortunately I don't have a local accent, as I find nothing to like about most regional accents.

AJ sheffield
24-03-2005, 19:50
I was born and bred here in sheffield and I love our accent :) The media would have everyone believe we all sound like Brian Glover in this part of Yorkshire but it aint true. Before a news team or other reporter airs an interview with anyone from around here it appears they only show the "wuns tharra reet yooarkshire". Admittedly I do sometimes call people love, babbie, mucker, shagger, duck and cock :rolleyes: hmmmm maybe the media have a point :|

SUPERTYKE
31-03-2005, 11:35
I find it mildly cheering when someone calls me 'love'. While I'm not religious in any way, I'm sure that Jesus, mohammed and all of the known prophets would approve.

I wonder, would the 'Windy one' have any objection to being called 'Duck' or 'Mate'? Or is she unable to distinguish between friendliness and intimacy? Most words depend on context for literal meaning, and cleary, a bus driver bidding passengers 'g'nite luv' is'nt making improper suggestions.

As I said, lighten up!(And may the Dag be with you.)

teabird
31-03-2005, 11:40
People should stand tall & be proud of where they come from.

Its not the accent that makes a person, but whats inside !

There are better & worse than the Sheffield (Yorkshire) accent.
It has to be said that Yorkshire folk are very down to earth & you know where you stand with them.

RoyalRegular
31-03-2005, 12:40
The best version of the Sheffield accent I've ever heard was the Chinese man who used to show you to your table at the Zing Vaa. He had Chinese parents but was brought up in Liverpool before moving to Sheffield.

LisaMarie
02-04-2005, 14:13
I live in Killamarsh which is in Sheffield but the county of Derbyshire-although I have influences from all of the surrounding areas- Rotherham, Worksop, Chesterfield and Sheffield I still like to class myself as a Sheffield lass!
I love the way we talk.Sad Tommy on Corrie made me go weak at the knees when I heard him talk. Dee darrs they call us in Chossa ( Chesterfield!) The only time we sound thick on TV is when they interview a moron on the news or when a foreigner (Ewan Mcgregor in Brassed off) tries to mimic the speach. They should have REAL Sheffield people teach the actors the dialect.
Barnsley accent is easy to define- Maas Baa ( translated- Mars Bar) still like to hear that accent too!

DannyBoy
02-04-2005, 15:43
I moved here from the South in 1994 and to be honest I have never found the accent that much of a barrier. (What I find odd is being told that *I* have an accent, when I never thought I did!) The little touches in Sheffield-speak are quite amusing, especially "while" - I've even found myself adopting that one.

Once or twice, though, friends and colleagues from round here have baffled me with their choice of words: I'd never heard anyone say that they "looked at so-and-so gone out", or refer to a "coursey-edge" before I came to Sheffield! "Trimming up" at Christmas is another one. And something which I don't think is peculiar to Sheffield but you *never* hear it south of the Midlands - referring to members of your family with the possessive, e.g. "our Nan" or "our Andy".

And then there's "mardy"... I was convinced for ages that it was a made-up word.

My wife is from Notts, and she still sometimes makes me stare blankly at her after 12 years together - such as when she refers to having a lot of "rammel" in her purse (loose change), or buying "cobs" (rolls). And it took me ages to work out that the "Mama" she was talking about was her grandma and not her Mum.

Like a lot of people, she slips back more into her accent when she is on the phone to family; it's quite a shock to hear her saying "ee ant" and "tint" when I've been used to "he hasn't" and "it isn't". There's an odd use of "what" as a pronoun among some Nottingham folks too - "the shirts what you bought from that shop". (I'm not convinced that isn't just bad grammar rather than dialect...) And has anyone come across the use of "about" to negate the previous person's statement? e.g.
"We used to have a red car."
"About red, it were green!" etc.

underground1
02-04-2005, 15:46
its our accent! YOU SHOULD LIKE IT!!!!!!!! BECAUSE IT IS WHO U R! :hihi:

andrex
02-04-2005, 16:46
the sheffield accent and dialect took some getting used to when i first came here about 14 years ago. some people said my leeds twang was nice and sexy and some said it sounded posh LOL.

my first visit to a sheffield chippie was quite amusing because i asked for a teacake not realising that in sheffield a teacake is what i would call a fruit teacake. the girl behind the counter looked a me gone out until i explained i was from leeds and we call em teacakes not breadcakes.

i once read somewhere there are 96 dialects of yorkshire. that is a lot of variations in just one county.

sbrrakp
02-04-2005, 16:52
Its great thy sees what i meean, thy on bout thee, all common talk great! ay we are down to earth not stuck up snobs.

rubydazzler
02-04-2005, 17:04
Originally posted by Cyclone
love doesn't just imply a little bit of affection and is normally used as a term of endearment between people who are very close.
I find it mildly offensive when someone i've never met before and don't know calls me love.

I don't think that "love" as we use it here in Sheffield implies any affection at all ... we use it for a random customer, passenger or person in the street. It's just our way of addressing a stranger, like ma'am, sir. madame, monsieur etc etc.

I don't call anyone I know well "love" - it means nothing ... it's just what you say to strangers. It probably derived from another word the way love in tennis did!

Luckily, there aren't many people like Cyclone around, a bit mardy with an attitude problem, no offence, Cyclone lol ;) Supertyke, are you sure Cyclone is a female, as I've always been certain it was a man! :o

Dannyboy, you made me laugh so much ... I really did LOL! When I was living in London, I just could NOT get used to the way they said "my Ian", "my Susie" etc ... I thought for ages that my mother-in-law was just being possessive with her darling son!! :D

burnttoast
02-04-2005, 20:33
This nowt wrong wi sheffild accent . From a proud dee daa.

melthebell
02-04-2005, 20:45
obviously being from sheffield...i love it :)

but not living in sheffield now, when i visit my dad, he always says im losing my accent :(

but round here, when i talk to people they always ask where im from "you dont sound like your from round here" lol

Laura2005
04-04-2005, 21:38
i like it but im from here so its in my blood :)

peterdo
04-04-2005, 23:42
I had to meet a builder on a site the other day. when I arrived I said good morning how are you ect, and he asked me if I was the man that he had spoken to on the phone.I said yes why?
He said on the phone I sound Australian, but face to face still have quite an accent. :bigsmile:

SUPERTYKE
05-04-2005, 12:30
I just assumed that Cyclone was female by the 'timbre and tone' of the messages 'it' posted. I hope 'it' can take this edgy provocative banter in good part.

If 'it' knows sheffielders at all, 'it' should know that the majority of us are tolerant of the veiws of those from other parts regarding our accent, dialect e.t.c. and take no offence when they express their opinions- however much based on bigotry and snobbery those opinions may be.

Maybe we should have a wee icon indicating our gender. Could be interesting, any ideas?

May the Dag be with you.

Charlie01
05-04-2005, 12:56
hey,
ive lived in sheffield for just over a year now.. im finding it either quite comical are hard to understand the sheffield accent, depends how broad it is.
im from lincolnshire myself, and have quite blank canvas when it comes to accents but find myself saying rait and naar frequently!!
its taking over, nooooh :)
x

t020
05-04-2005, 20:31
Originally posted by Cyclone

Fortunately I don't have a local accent, as I find nothing to like about most regional accents.


I couldn't agree more.

Rich
05-04-2005, 21:31
Originally posted by t020
I couldn't agree more.

How do you talk then t0? Posh?

And no I'm not having a pop at you here, I'm genuinely curious.

t020
05-04-2005, 21:33
Originally posted by Rich
How do you talk then t0? Posh?

And no I'm not having a pop at you here, I'm genuinely curious.

Just normally, no local accent, probably the same as Cyclone.

Clare85
06-04-2005, 07:56
umm yeah the further North from where I live the better; I could listen to lads chatting for ages.

Originally posted by pdrnsf
Sexy? I think not!

SUPERTYKE
08-04-2005, 14:58
What is not to like about ANY accent? Perhaps some folk would prefer that we were without difference in all respects. Colourless and boring. Would that make things less threatening for them?

And if they can't understand the speech, they should LISTEN harder. Any device that causes people to listen to each other and to tolerate each others differences can't be wrong.

Perhaps it would be better if the whole world spoke in a monotonous drone of neutral english.

Accents give me a richer feeling of place when I'm away.
I honestly can't think of an accent that I dislike. Though there are some that I like more than others, they all have their quaintness and interesting nuances.

It seems that accents, to some, equal poorness of mind and/or circumstance, they might just be wrong. they might just be snobs.

May the Dag be with them.

sigmar14
08-04-2005, 15:00
yeah.i was born and bred in sheffield of course i like the yorkshire accent

peterdo
09-04-2005, 00:37
I wonder what people say, from london would say about t020 's accent and weather he had one or not. We don't always sound as we think we do.

t020
09-04-2005, 00:45
Originally posted by peterdo
I wonder what people say, from london would say about t020 's accent and weather he had one or not. We don't always sound as we think we do.


I'm not saying I have a southern accent, I speak as neutral as is possible and people I meet both from Sheffield and other parts of the country can't guess where I'm from.

For me, the worst sounding accent has to be scouse. I heard someone on TV with a scouse accent earlier today and was reminded of how awful it sounds. That's just my opinion anyway, I'm sure there will be some who like the sound of it.

carter101
09-04-2005, 15:45
I'm a teacher that moved from Cambridge up to Sheffield last year. I got quite worried on the first day when I couldn't understand what my tutor group were saying! However, it was because they mumble so much and I quickly got the hang of it.
The most used phrase (other than four lettered) is gi-ooop and I still haven't managed to pin it down to one translation.

Coming from the Birmingham area I can state that our accent is SUPPOSED to be the stupidest sounding (I don't think it!). Apparently Brummie is the accent most likely to fail you at a job interview. I think scouse was found to be close.

Sylvester
09-04-2005, 20:41
Well i'm actually a Sheffielder by birth and i have a Sheffield accent (although i frequently lose the accent to speak in a more shall we say Southern accent cos A) i like the sound of the southern accent, 'Heddersfiewld an awll' and B) after a few embarrassing telephone incidents with southerners that couldn't tell a word i was saying), i have however lived most of my life in Sheffield except for a brief stint in Nottinghamshire when i was young. So i can quickly switch back, although i love talking in a Birmingham accent too. Or Devonshire... whichever accent amuses me at any particular time.


On the Barnsley/Sheffield differences, well for the last few years i've increasingly spent much more time in Barnsley than Sheffield (amongst other places in West Yorkshire as well) and you can certainly tell the difference, Barnsley is a much stronger accent with a much greater obsession with the flat/short 'a', i mean they use it for everything.

I have noticed at least two different Barnsley accents.

The regular Barnsley, (not unlike Sheffield but stronger, and it's 'genel' rather than 'jenel'), and the 'Royston-Twang' variant (as it's officially known by English Language teachers), this latter accent has begun spreading throughout certain areas of Barnsley, Dodworth being one area particular common to hear this second variant.

The Royston variant is probably best shown in the following pronunciations;

Do - duwe
you - yuwe
two - tuwe
through - thruwe

And the famous bit of Royston-Twang; polo - powlow

I remember it well, we started out in one of our classes at college with only one person using that Royston variant, by the end we'd all picked it up, i still drop into it by accident every now and again. Then again i also duwe it on purpose tu see if anyone now'ices. Watch out it's spreading to Sheffield!

Sylvester
10-04-2005, 20:18
Originally posted by carter101

The most used phrase (other than four lettered) is gi-ooop and I still haven't managed to pin it down to one translation.


Gi-ooop = Give up.

saxon51
10-04-2005, 20:23
Originally posted by Sylvester
Gi-ooop = Give up.

Or as spoken in chez saxon51...

Gi-ower = Give over (but only when we don't have company of course)

SUPERTYKE
14-04-2005, 15:49
It's a good thing you can translate 'mumble', Carter 101.

I would have thought that ,'Gi oop' would have been an obvious one, although I think you'll find that,'Gee oar' is the usual way of saying 'give up' in these parts.

As for the swear words, tut-tut, these thuggish northern kids. I bet Brummie kids don't use bad language in class.

And the most stupid accent of all? - Brum wins the title hands down, may as well live with it 101.
Scouse, on the other hand, is a far more cerebral accent. Can't you hear John Lennons' sardonic tones, streetwise and incisive?

Seems you've been treading the cobbled byways of Cambridge for too long , better get used to the screaming tyres rather than the dreaming spires owd luv.

May the dag be with you!

sacredearth
17-05-2005, 09:57
in London we have 'baps' which are the equivalent to Sheffield's bread cakes. A roll (cob) is round and not flat and is either crusty or soft. There are also long (hot dog) rolls, bridge rolls which are small and sweet. We have tea cakes which are the same as Sheffield tea cakes. Yes we do have barths and flarsks but we also have holes instead of oils and coats instead of coarts, too many different accents and variations of the 'cockney' to mention:thumbsup:

carter101
17-05-2005, 13:29
Sorry if my post implied that pupils up here are any different to "down south". Teaching in Cambridge is not like being at Cambridge University, there are some difficult kids (just as there are anywhere). Obviously, swearing and mumbling is a national youth pastime.
I quite like teaching up here.

Jillybabes
17-05-2005, 13:33
I love our accent I think its reight good! I looked at a book once and it 'ad got all the slang words in, it were really funny, there were some words I'd never 'eard of meself. I think Sean Bean is really funny the way his accent never changes in everything that he's in, I do like him though, he's a good lad! I love When Saturday Comes. United!

pussym
17-05-2005, 13:39
Well Im Sheffield born and bread, but everywhere I go people always ask where im from. When I tel them they say that I sound nothing like a Sheffield person!!!! I think it depends on where in Sheffield your from. I don't like it when people just use so much slang...no offence to anyone but it tends to be people from place like Hilborough and Parsons cross. Like i said no offence as my boyf lives in Hilsborough and he has a really strong Sheffield accent and he picks on me for not having one!!!!:D

LittleWitch
18-05-2005, 10:26
I'm from South Wales originally, and have lived in doncaster since I was ten, only moving to sheffield a couple of years ago to be with my partner, so consequently, I keep getting told that I don't have any accent at all!?!

I think that sometimes the Sheffield accent is ok (when my partner speaks it is!), but it ALWAYS makes me cringe when I hear girls shouting in the street (to my "southern" ears it sounds awful), and I do kind of find the sheffield accent quite threatening sometimes (although maybe that's just because I spent my first year in Sheffield living in quite a rough area!!)

However, now I live in a nicer part of Sheffield, the accent isn't so obvious (except when my next door neighbour is shouting at her kids!! "gee oar!")!!

SUPERTYKE
19-05-2005, 13:16
No worries Carter 101, I may have misunderstood your comments. I can be a little defensive of our northern ways, soz!

You teachers are under heavy fire enough lately and I wouldn't wish to join to the trend.

Hope you are enjoying your life in these parts.

May the Dag be with you.

Cheers, Supertyke.

PhilipB
19-05-2005, 18:01
Really am ashamed to say this but the Sheffield accent has got to be one of the least attractive.
Broad Sheffield has nothing to recommend it.

timo
19-05-2005, 21:28
As an ex-pat in darkest Lancashire, I miss the Sheffield accent sometimes. I work in Liverpool, and would love to occasionally swap the 'ah eys' and 'come 'eads' for 'nah thens' and 'alreets'. I love to hear my dear friend Pete [Sheffield personified] on the telephone. There have been times when kind words, said in that uniquely tough but warm accent have almost made me weep. Listen to the Sheffield accent and you can hear the speech patterns of the Northumbrian Angles; echoes from the ancient past. The people too, with their sharp, light-blue eyes in the main, their predominance of light brown hair, and the 'burly' build of the men, echo their Anglian origins.

There are detractors, who say that the accent sounds 'rough', that the people are 'take us as you find us'. Let them carp. The Sheffield accent comes from the West Riding of Yorkshire, where, historically, there were more freeholding yeomen, more independent weaver-farmers etc than elsewhere. These men doffed their caps to no man. The bluff, independence is perhaps echoed in the accent today.

Maybe I am just being fanciful. I know one thing though. You are on the 'right' side of the Pennines, and I am exiled on the 'wrong' side!

helentobin
20-05-2005, 00:21
Originally posted by dilly
well i am from nottingham and i have many friends in sheffield and i think its a wicked accent,we say quite a lot of the same words eg mardy,rate.alrate,mi sen,mashin, snap etc and i qiute often get folk askin me if i am from yorkshire as i seem to develop an accent when i talk to people from sheffield.

Well i live in oz now, and my mate here , tina dale is from nottingham, so when we get chattin no one understands us at all, but oh how lovely to talk to someone who understand me when i say nah then duck!!!

SUPERTYKE
20-05-2005, 16:08
I hope your exile is not too painfull Timo. Clearly the White Rose is still your flower!

Your post was very interesting and I hope that those who would confuse the breadth of ones accent with the thickness of ones skull are now more enlightened.

It seems to me that there is too much pretention regarding speech. People who endeavour to disguise their accents must be as shallow as they are deluded.
Knowing WHO we are is inextricably linked to our regional origins; and without the colour and humour that accent and dialect lend to speech, the country would be inestimably poorer.

I expect the attitudes of the detractors is based on their assumptions regarding class and wealth.

The tyranny of those who deem themselves 'better born', is living and well; yet is nevertheless, only half as sickening as those who, with neither class nor wealth, would aspire to align themselves with the former.

Let those who would divide be divided, as they inevitably are; let their elitist lives be less rich, as are their characters and souls and may the dag most certainly not be with them!

t020
20-05-2005, 21:00
Originally posted by SUPERTYKE
I hope your exile is not too painfull Timo. Clearly the White Rose is still your flower!

Your post was very interesting and I hope that those who would confuse the breadth of ones accent with the thickness of ones skull are now more enlightened.

It seems to me that there is too much pretention regarding speech. People who endeavour to disguise their accents must be as shallow as they are deluded.
Knowing WHO we are is inextricably linked to our regional origins; and without the colour and humour that accent and dialect lend to speech, the country would be inestimably poorer.

I expect the attitudes of the detractors is based on their assumptions regarding class and wealth.

The tyranny of those who deem themselves 'better born', is living and well; yet is nevertheless, only half as sickening as those who, with neither class nor wealth, would aspire to align themselves with the former.

Let those who would divide be divided, as they inevitably are; let their elitist lives be less rich, as are their characters and souls and may the dag most certainly not be with them!

Or it could just be that some people don't have strong regional accents because they grew up around people that didn't either? Surely it would be as pretentious for them to then start pretending they have a strong, regional accent?

fillius
20-05-2005, 22:05
I'm from Sheffield, Born and bred. I don't consider it an accent, more a lazy way of speaking. It is awful. The Barnsley accent is closer to a true Yorkshire accent.

mclarke
26-05-2005, 07:50
I think it's great, and accents from different places of the country are all very interesting!

Captain_Scarlet
26-05-2005, 08:30
Originally posted by Kristian
When I mentioned people on TV, I didn't mean one of the handful of celebrities that Sheffield produced, I mean people interviewed on the news or on game shows etc. :rant: They always seem to choose the people with the broadest accents!

K x Sheffield accent on TV is always better than the way they speak daan saath, saying things like 'rum' instead of 'room'...

Sheffield accent is the bomb, it's the way forward ! What else could we speak like, Brummies ? Scousers ? Please come, we're better off as we are !

SUPERTYKE
26-05-2005, 10:40
My point was, Timo, that we should not appropriate stereotypes and issues of class to regional accents.

I made no mention of neutral accents and would be compromising my own beliefs had I suggested that people should in any way modify their accent. Those that do in my opinion, are being pretentious. Anyway all language has a trace of some accent or other; some of my friends speak very BBC which I find no more or less pleasant than any other speech.

Just for the record, and in case you may think that it is my grapes that have soured; I was born well, I earn well and I have a happy single life; none of my girlfriends have ever objected to my accent, which is clearly Sheffield.

I hope my point is now more clear.

May the Dag be with you.

Netsrik
26-05-2005, 23:29
I like the whole "love" & "duck" thing, but have trouble adapting to the "breadcake". It just doesn't sound right if I say it- I don't want to sound like I'm imitating the dialect, so I just give up and point to what I want: "yeah, I'll have one of them please"!

Normally I would just ask for a "roll" or "bap".

Clockedit
27-05-2005, 06:27
Aargh. Reet good love.

janny
27-05-2005, 17:37
well i think our accent is great!! ive got to admit we do sound a bit dumb on tv sometimes tho, maybe thats just the people they choose to speak. i think if u dont like it that much and its soooooo hard to understand then bugger off somewhere else!!!

MrPaul
27-05-2005, 19:35
I kinda do and I dont....

I'[ve gotta sheffield accent and people round where i live (dronfield) has abit of a mix...

Is it just me or if your talkin to a guy or girl from sheffield in say a bar, you notice nothing. But when you see some guy from sheffield on TV they seem to stand out a mile?!

janny
27-05-2005, 19:46
its strange isnt it, it can be embarressing sometimes. i cringe when i hear people from sheffield on tv, like on the news, i dont know where they get the people from or maybe i have an idea but ill not say. i hope i dont sound that bad :confused:

Scammy
27-05-2005, 20:39
well ive lived in sheffield all my live and i dnt really hav an accent iam quite posh really lol hmm

Rich
27-05-2005, 20:57
I have quite a strong accent, not as strong as it used to be but I do tend to say "aye" a lot instead of "yes" or even "yeah", which is traditional broad Yorkshire apparently...

I do sometimes get pulled up for talking a bit TOO rough though, theeing and thouing especially gets me pulled up.

t020
27-05-2005, 21:38
Originally posted by Rich
I have quite a strong accent, not as strong as it used to be but I do tend to say "aye" a lot instead of "yes" or even "yeah", which is traditional broad Yorkshire apparently...

I do sometimes get pulled up for talking a bit TOO rough though, theeing and thouing especially gets me pulled up.


"Yeah" is UK wide and I believe it's an Americanism. Even BBC newsreaders say it, so I wouldn't worry about it, it's just lazy.

starsue
27-05-2005, 22:08
I am from sheffield but a pet hate is when people say medderall instead of meadowhall it does make me cringe

Ando
27-05-2005, 22:09
I don't think Sheffied accents are particularly bad. West Yorkshire accents take some listening to at times and Barnsley is a law unto itself!

There's always a tendency to be self critical however.

My favourite was looking at a second hand car in Heeley and the clinching patter from Heeleys version of Swiss Tony being that the car I was looking at was;- "Wesh - Valett - Tret Reeet!"

How could I refuse??

SUPERTYKE
28-05-2005, 09:30
My last post was replying to 'to20' and not to Timo, soz Timo!

As for the corruption of the word 'yes' to 'yeah', I think you.ll find that there are very few 'true' americanisms. In fact there is very little about America that is truly original.

The mix of european settlers inevitably caused abberations in used english. So it may be nearer the truth to refer to the slaughter of english in America as 'europeanisms'!

t020
28-05-2005, 11:31
Originally posted by SUPERTYKE
My last post was replying to 'to20' and not to Timo, soz Timo!


In that case then, whilst you made no direct reference to "neutral accents" you did seem to imply that they were pretentious so I was just clarifying by making the point that often "neutral accents" come naturally so it would be pretentious to put on a strong local accent.

poppins
28-05-2005, 12:40
A yorkshire accent sounds different to different people, in the US people think anyone with a yorkshire or lankashire accent is from Scotland, in other words if you don't have a posh London accent youre from Scotland.

May sound strange to you, but could you tell a Boston Accent from a say Connecticut, Ny,Nj ect, people in the US can.

LordChaverly
28-05-2005, 13:47
I can tell a Boston from a NY accent (and also a Brooklyn accent from some of the other boroughs). They are quite different. Don't know about Connecticut though.

Its funny, until recently I thought it was only New Yorkers who say 'aks' instead of 'ask', but I've heard people from other cities say it too - perhaps they heard it in a Scorsese movie

poppins
28-05-2005, 14:24
Originally posted by LordChaverly
I can tell a Boston from a NY accent (and also a Brooklyn accent from some of the other boroughs). They are quite different. Don't know about Connecticut though.

Its funny, until recently I thought it was only New Yorkers who say 'aks' instead of 'ask', but I've heard people from other cities say it too - perhaps they heard it in a Scorsese movie

"Aks" is a clolored persons accent, no offence, but true.

LordChaverly
28-05-2005, 14:36
It may have been at one time, but I think its percolated into the general population. In fact I think it may have originated in Little Italy New York - certainly a lot of Italian Americans use it, including several of my acquaintance

LordChaverly
28-05-2005, 14:37
I'll aks them where it came from

poppins
28-05-2005, 16:26
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LordChaverly
[B]It may have been at one time, but I think its percolated into the general population]

Not where I live it hasn't !

LordChaverly
28-05-2005, 16:33
I think it has in New York

LittlestLass
28-05-2005, 21:49
I really love accents - I find them very sexy, but I particularly like the Sheffield accent. I even find the Brummie accent quite sexy despite the allegations that they sound "thick"...

The thing I've always found fascinating is how people's accents change when they move into new areas. I'm from Chesterfield but have lived in Sheffield for the last 3 years and my accent has got noticeably stronger (without me consciously trying to change it).

Bjork has one of the most entertaining accents. Icelandic mixed with cockney - weird combo.

scooterlass
28-09-2005, 22:18
pojkposfkosefesefseefu

sheldon1973
28-09-2005, 22:44
Crikey. listen t your lot givin Sheffielders a right gooin ovver.

ya cant knock a northern accent. It shows that ya tekk us or leave us.

Thas no false snobbery wi us ya know...Not like them southerners.

medusa
28-09-2005, 22:56
Originally posted by LittlestLass
I really love accents - I find them very sexy, but I particularly like the Sheffield accent. I even find the Brummie accent quite sexy despite the allegations that they sound "thick"...

Try living with having a Brummie accent (actually I grew up with the local name of being a 'yam yam'- black country/brummie border). I've spent the last 17 years in Sheffield trying to lose the damn thing. I'm really pleased when the person I'm talking to doesn't say 'do you come from Birmingham?'

chris1975
28-09-2005, 23:17
I feel that Sheffielders in general (no offence to any one) are very lazy listeners.

They expect to here a dialect that they will understand, and when faced with something different they respond by making you feel thick....eg you what?.:lol:

It always cracks me up cos I now respond with the exact same response, knowing that they understood me exactly the first time, but feel ashamed to admit it.

sheldon1973
28-09-2005, 23:46
YA WHAAT...........................................

chris1975
28-09-2005, 23:54
Ya Whaaaaaaat......................................

gosling
29-09-2005, 03:57
I luv it ,it makes me homesick.:cry:

Ms Macbeth
29-09-2005, 05:29
After 35 years in South Yorks, I still have a Scottish accent - but its never been very broad so I'm easily understood. The same goes for people everywhere - most people have 'accents' but some speak gramatically well, others have broad 'dialects' which take a bit more understanding - very often heard in rural areas.

Then there are the really lazy speakers ie, Medderaall, on'tbus, Puckeruntas (loved this one, heard when the film Pocahontas was showing).

For ages I thought a colleague's daughter was called 'Ann-Marie' she wasn't, but she was always called 'Aar Marie'!

I don't think the Sheffield accent is better or worse than others, but I think most of us have a liking for what we have been brought up with?

DragonofAna
29-09-2005, 06:26
Yer ever thought Chris1975 that the reason we can't understand yer is cos yer talk funny? Nahden - if tha really gets dahn t'it - we dunt talk much different from other folk. Just we don't allus pronounce every 't' and every 'g'.

Nowt wrong wi it anyhow.

Funnily enough - I did not think I had a strong accent until it was pointed out to me on a couple of occassions.

Dragon

Floe
29-09-2005, 09:47
Regional accents are part of our rich heritage.
The difficulty has been in the past, and to a certain extent even now, that many accents were scorned as being lower class.
In other countries this doesn't happen.

Kirsty_87
29-09-2005, 10:42
I love the sheffield accent but now i tend to talk alot posher now i work in a solicitors.

Pseudonym
29-09-2005, 11:06
Originally posted by Kirsty_87
.... i tend to talk alot posher now i work in a solicitors.
Oh may word! 'Ark at 'er! :D

Using 'love' causes some very strange looks when addressing a complete stranger when 'dahn Sahf', It took me a while to realise this and a much longer while to stop myself from saying it... "Thanks love" to, for example a shop-assistant, comes much more naturally than just saying "Thanks", which seems to me to sound rather clipped and curt. But unfortunately, and quite comically, it's often taken as an unwelcome and unjustified term of endearment.

Funny bunch, them suvvanahs! ;)

meumeu77
29-09-2005, 11:19
ah I just love accents and the Sheffield one too. I married a Sheffield man after all. He also likes my accent (I'm a frog).
It's so true about people down South not being used to being called Love and Duck. It makes me laugh when hubby does it and the people look puzzled. You do get the odd person who thinks it's nice but usually they're quite miserable down here.
So to answer the question, I love the Sheffield accent and the Sheffield language!
xx
:hihi:

koenigsinger
29-09-2005, 11:22
I'm Sheffield born and bred, although as a young child I lived in Beighton, which was in the old county of Derbyshire, so I do use the term 'duck' as a term of affection to my family. I also use the terms, love, flower, petal, pal, mucker, dude, mate and even on occasion.... youth!
my accent is tempered by both the long time study and imitation of various local, regional, global accents, and also the fact that for the last twenty years I have associated with both Sheffielders and non Sheffielders alike. I can comfortably articulate myself in any company, but obviously I feel most at home with my 'home accent'.
I'm proud to have an accent, and if other people dont find it 'sexy' or 'intelligent' that is their prerogative, but it has no effect on me or my life.
accents dont make people sexy, you either are sexy, or not, and it is all subjective!
one man's black dag is another man's dog log!

vive la difference!
live and let live and let's make love not war!

By the way.....
I knew a girl when I was at Manchester Uni, she was from sandwell/dudley, and she made the black country accent sound like honey dripping from the tongue of an angel!
so there!

ah'll si thi!

SupraSteve
29-09-2005, 12:52
I don't reallly like it (sorry!), in fact I can sometimes... mildly.. dislike it - especially if it's 'reet' strong :gag: ;). However feel free to ignore me because I don't come form Sheffield or live there. :D A strong Yorkshire accent is just... rubbish.. sorry :D

I'm still gald it exists tho - variety is good - and I don't make any assumptions about people, whether they've got an accent or not. :)

rooby_roo
29-09-2005, 12:56
I think people are confusing pronunciation with accent.

I love the accent but when people say reet or weer etc, thats not accent that pronunciation and it sounds absolutely awful.

Im from Sheffield but like to think that I pronounce my words correctly albeit in a Sheffield accent

Rich
29-09-2005, 12:59
Oy naw din dee, tha can't slag off t'sheffuld accent cos it's reyt good in't it like?

SupraSteve
29-09-2005, 13:04
Originally posted by rooby_roo
I think people are confusing pronunciation with accent.

I love the accent but when people say reet or weer etc, thats not accent that pronunciation and it sounds absolutely awful.

Good point, although I thin the correct comparison would be accent and dialect. 'Reet', 'duck' etc would be part of someone's dialect, rather than their accent. Accent is how you pronounce words, rather than what words are in an individual's lexical range. That's IIRC back to my English language lessons anyway. :)

Off the top of my head the only accents I almost always like are the Welsh accent, and hmm.... maybe the geordie accent, so long as it's still understandable. ;) Oh yeah, and most Scottish accents are quite nice too.

Rich
29-09-2005, 13:06
By comparison, the only accent I absolutely hate is the Cockney accent, I refuse to watch Eastenders because of it!

Pseudonym
29-09-2005, 13:13
Originally posted by Rich
By comparison, the only accent I absolutely hate is the Cockney accent, I refuse to watch Eastenders because of it!
ANY reason for refusing to watch Eastenders has to be a good one IMO! :D

Though I don't really dislike any accents, probably just as well because when in conversation with a 'Furriner' (i.e. anyone not born & bred in Sheffield), I frequently find myself mimicking them, without realising I'm doing it...

meumeu77
29-09-2005, 17:42
I love the Scouse accent too. We've got a few mates from Liverpool and hearing them is so charming! Not as strong as in Brookie.

Rich
29-09-2005, 17:59
Originally posted by Pseudonym
ANY reason for refusing to watch Eastenders has to be a good one IMO! :D

Though I don't really dislike any accents, probably just as well because when in conversation with a 'Furriner' (i.e. anyone not born & bred in Sheffield), I frequently find myself mimicking them, without realising I'm doing it...

It's a shame though that the Cockney dialect is so crap, cos sometimes Cockney lasses can be *ahem* a bit tasty, alas.. They let themselves down as soon as they open their "maath" as they'd say :(

anabel
29-09-2005, 19:25
I love it!!
i love a bit of rough
love sean bean
love the Baaaaaarnsleh accent
love the leeds accent
love yorkshire love love love it!

hayley_c
30-09-2005, 18:07
i love everything about yorkshire lol:thumbsup:

gosling
30-09-2005, 23:57
Me too Hayley C. If anybody asks me where I come from I always say Sheffield, Yorkshire. never the U.K.:clap:

the_rudeboy
01-10-2005, 00:17
Originally posted by anabel
love the leeds accent


:gag: 'Wun' crap accent

nanrobbo
01-10-2005, 04:52
I love the Sheffield accent now but I didn't when I was young- thought it was 'common' proper little stuck up madam I was. Now when I first came to Oz and had a lunch shop I had two Geordie girls used to come in for lunch I couldn't understand scarce a word they said and vice versa. We had fun!

DragonofAna
01-10-2005, 07:07
A friend of my son originates from somewhere down south and tis always weird to hear her saying words like "Larff" and "buke". Tried to tell her its "Laff" and "buk" but she still says it the same way no matter how she tries.

Is taking the michael out of someone for the way they talk a bit like bullying? If so then I must be guilty cos I love having a larff about the buke I am reading.

Dragon

d1La
01-10-2005, 07:19
how exactly does it sound?

DragonofAna
01-10-2005, 08:33
How exactly does what sound?

Confused*

Dragon

seabreeze
01-10-2005, 09:40
Originally posted by meumeu77
ah I just love accents and the Sheffield one too. I married a Sheffield man after all. He also likes my accent (I'm a frog).
It's so true about people down South not being used to being called Love and Duck. It makes me laugh when hubby does it and the people look puzzled. You do get the odd person who thinks it's nice but usually they're quite miserable down here.
So to answer the question, I love the Sheffield accent and the Sheffield language!
xx
:hihi:

Have you ever actually spent any time in the south? because if you have you obviously never mixed with any working class people.

Working class people in the south east use "love" and "duck" as much as sheffield people. Where there is a difference is the habit common amongst (older) sheffield men of calling other men "love". This is completely unknown in the south east (and I think in much of the rest of the north outside yorkshire).
Maybe such misunderstandings arise from the fact that 99% of southerners in the north have moved here because of their having attended university up here or moving up in career moves and thereby are 99% middle class and the average sheffielder never actually meeting working class southerners who are nowhere near as different as the middle class media would like to pretend.

seabreeze
01-10-2005, 09:46
Originally posted by meumeu77
ah I just love accents and the Sheffield one too. I married a Sheffield man after all. He also likes my accent (I'm a frog).
It's so true about people down South not being used to being called Love and Duck. It makes me laugh when hubby does it and the people look puzzled. You do get the odd person who thinks it's nice but usually they're quite miserable down here.
So to answer the question, I love the Sheffield accent and the Sheffield language!
xx
:hihi:

I now see you're actually living in the south which makes your post even weirder...you must live in some hermetically sealed gentrified bubble.
Come to think of being French married to a yorkshireman and temporarily living in the south youre hardly gonna be living on the local council estate are you?

meumeu77
01-10-2005, 11:08
Originally posted by seabreeze
I now see you're actually living in the south which makes your post even weirder...you must live in some hermetically sealed gentrified bubble.
Come to think of being French married to a yorkshireman and temporarily living in the south youre hardly gonna be living on the local council estate are you?

For your information seabreeze, yes we do live on an estate. Take that!
I don't see what my nationality has got to do with living on an estate or not. :confused:
We're both working class and not trying to pretend we are.
How dare you make presumptions about us anyway?
:suspect:
Yes we are living down South in West Norfolk where most people we bump into are rude and hate foreigners and I'm not just talking about people from other countries but people from other Counties! As soon as my hubby opens his mouth, because he's "not from round here", we get cold service in the shops and so on. I'm not kidding. And then they're pleasant with other customers from round here...
I get less grief being a Frog than him being from Sheffield, which is quite an achievement for me as I've always come across anti-French people and even though I've lived here for 7 years, I still don't accept it.
Anyway, you've got me quite annoyed here so I'll just leave it there.
All I wanted was comment on how I like the Sheffield and the Scouse accents and this is what I get.

marinaparkes
01-10-2005, 12:27
i love the accent.have lived in austalia since 74 and still have a slight one ive just moved to queensland and theres so many poms here its like being home oh and the weathers glorious too
and they still whinge

Rich
01-10-2005, 12:54
Originally posted by Dragon
How exactly does what sound?

Confused*

Dragon

Sheffield accent? :rolleyes:

Pseudonym
01-10-2005, 13:14
Originally posted by seabreeze
Have you ever actually spent any time in the south? because if you have you obviously never mixed with any working class people.
Do London & Windsor qualify as 'The South'? Do shop assistants in Waitrose and Tesco qualify as 'working class people'? On many occasions, when talking to these assistants and adding the word 'love' to "thanks" or when asking for an item, I've got some very strange looks, one woman spat back at me... "I'm NOT your love, please don't use that term to me!". Made all the more comical because I hadn't even realised that I'd said it!

Friends who lived there explained that it wasn't used in the sense that we use it here, in the more civilised part of the world... ;) And can be taken as being an overly-familiar endearment when said to a stranger...

Hopefully, when meumeu77 lives in Sheffield, she'll find us considerably more friendly than the folks in her current local area...

Personally, I'm a total push-over for any female speaking in a french accent... ooh-la-la!... c'est trés, trés bon!!! :)

wearetherobots
01-10-2005, 13:24
It saddens me that the old friendly warm dialect is slowly becoming associated with being common or rough. Nothing sounds worse than a Sheffielder trying to put on a snooty accent.

meumeu77
01-10-2005, 16:05
[Hopefully, when meumeu77 lives in Sheffield, she'll find us considerably more friendly than the folks in her current local area...

Personally, I'm a total push-over for any female speaking in a french accent... ooh-la-la!... c'est trés, trés bon!!! :) ]

Pseudonym,
your post made me giggle and cheered me up, thanks!

I know Sheffield people are dead friendly, that's why I desperately want to come back to Sheffield. :help:

I've always considered Sheffield as my second home and only left because I had to for my career.

Have a great day!
:D

statsfan
01-10-2005, 18:03
I like the Sheffield Accent.

davyboy
01-10-2005, 20:48
When my sister in law first moved to Sheffield she asked the baker for a couple of rolls,he looked at her as if she had just landed from Mars.
When she pointed to what she wanted he told her they were buns.
S I S "no they're rolls, buns are sweet and have currants in them"
She has now learned to call them buns.
Now your starter for 10............
Does anyone know what you get in a chippy if you ask for a couple of wallies with your fish and chips?

sheldon1973
02-10-2005, 18:37
I could sit and listen to a female Irish accent all night.

Ellybum
05-10-2005, 16:03
Originally posted by redrobbo
I arrived in Sheffield approx 17 years ago. It's not the accent that puzzles me - but the words! I recall going into a baker's shop in Hunters Bar and asking for 4 cobs. The assistant gave me 4 loaves of bread! When I explained that I only wanted 4 cobs in order to put some cooked meat inside them for lunch - she rounded on me and said "Then why didn't you say breadcakes then?'. Breadcakes?! I still can't adjust to this nonsensical word. The Sheffield accent isn't anything extraordinary, (and certainly ain't sexy!) - but then me dah's a geordie, so I could be biased?

Oh....and a gennel is really a twitchel; and why don't Sheffield chippies understand the phrase 'a fish and mix' (which is simply shorthand for fish, chips & peas)?

Oh.....and 'snap' was sometimes called 'packing up'. Both were used by Notts-Derbys coal miners for their sandwiches which they took with them down the pit for their mealbreak.

You wanna try living in Barnsley - they call them Teacakes here! Teacakes??!! Now teacakes darrn sarrf have currents in them and are toasted - as apparently they are in Sheffield. Not
in Barnsley. ITS A ROLL!! Always has been and always will be - to me anyway! :thumbsup:

DragonofAna
05-10-2005, 17:35
However - the Barnsley accepnt is fantastic once you start watching a person speaking it.

I miss the Barnsley accent more than the Sheffield one.

A teacake has currents. A breacake doesn't. Then we have a barm cake, or is it a barn cake? I can never tell.

When I talk to folk in Barnsley when I collect my daughter from college - I could listen to them for hours.

Dragon

TheRedWizard
05-10-2005, 20:27
There's a train of thought that says that Sheffield is one of the closest accents to v.old english (Chaucher et al.); this supposedly stems from position away from pre-industrial trade roots. Seems slightly dodgy explanation, but there is a very close similarity.

For my part, tried to demonstrate to a visiting group how strong a Sheffielder accent could be (I've 'only' lived here for eight years), by wishing not washing/with watter not water/at neet not night etc. - they p;;ssed themselves, apparantly I'd been talking like that all day!!!!!!

statsfan
05-10-2005, 21:11
Originally posted by TheRedWizard
There's a train of thought that says that Sheffield is one of the closest accents to v.old english (Chaucher et al.); this supposedly stems from position away from pre-industrial trade roots. Seems slightly dodgy explanation, but there is a very close similarity.

For my part, tried to demonstrate to a visiting group how strong a Sheffielder accent could be (I've 'only' lived here for eight years), by wishing not washing/with watter not water/at neet not night etc. - they p;;ssed themselves, apparantly I'd been talking like that all day!!!!!!

Didn't Shakespeare talk with a brummie accent? :)

lilemma22
06-10-2005, 09:07
I love the Sheffield accent. However when im down south i do tend to sound more posh as iv noticed people don't take you seriously down south if u have a northern accent.

igm1
06-10-2005, 10:05
A few people (mostly girls!) at uni have said they love my accent!

:hihi:

gosling
06-10-2005, 10:17
Even my English teacher at Abbeydale Grammar School told me that it was the language of Shakespeare and as you can imagine that shut up quite a number of her pupils.:clap:

dany
06-10-2005, 17:04
Originally posted by Moonfire
LOL

I'm not a native to Sheffield and I'm not reet keen on it either. The only person that I have heard that sounds remotely sexy would be Sean Bean - but he's got that macho aura that surrounds him ;)

Okay how to people from Sheffiedl talk?

Rich
06-10-2005, 17:23
Originally posted by lilemma22
I love the Sheffield accent. However when im down south i do tend to sound more posh as iv noticed people don't take you seriously down south if u have a northern accent.

Yeah cos to most Southerners if you live any further North than Watford Gap services you might as well be a Martian... :loopy:

dilly
29-10-2005, 18:25
still think iys dead sexy.yummy.I could listen to it all day :)

waldershelf
30-10-2005, 06:09
Just to broaden the bread thing a bit further to the north west of sheffield (that little corner of gods own county we think of as happy valley) we call the bread product that your local sandwich shop uses a teacake!! what everyone else calls a teacake we call a current teacake.
A fishcake is two slices of potato sandwiching a slice of fish, battered and deep fried. A rissole is mashed potato, fish, parsley and seasoning coated in bread crumbs and deep fried.

I expect this thread to really take off now with fresh controversy over this vital, globally significant subject

Leigh
30-10-2005, 09:28
i think it's pretty bad to be honest. I just can't take anyone with such a strong accent seriously. I also can't equate the accent with intelligence, sorry.

spicey
30-10-2005, 09:41
It's ok, although some people can sound quite thick if they have a really loud voice. However I don't always understand what they are saying, like the woman shouting at me in the pub last night...no idea! :confused:

Seems that people in Sheffield can't always understand my "southern-hertfordshire" accent either......

Crazy
30-10-2005, 14:46
if you were born in sheffield and have a very common sheffield accent its not very good or sexy either, but the americans love our accent, my aunty is amercian and her and all her mates love it :-)

kal77uk
30-10-2005, 18:50
My Sheffield accent is very popular when im in the south or abroad, the problem is there are less and less local people in Sheffield itself nowadays.

Greybeard
30-10-2005, 19:24
Originally posted by waldershelf

A fishcake is two slices of potato sandwiching a slice of fish, battered and deep fried. A rissole is mashed potato, fish, parsley and seasoning coated in bread crumbs and deep fried.

I expect this thread to really take off now with fresh controversy over this vital, globally significant subject

Wrong !! :D Just do a forum search on the word fishcake and you'll have a couple of hours reading to do.

English Glory
30-10-2005, 19:37
The South and West Yorkshire accent is continually around the top of the polls.

The S Yorks and W Yorks accent is also regularly voted the most honest and trustworthy accent for some reason.

DragonofAna
30-10-2005, 20:58
Does not matter what the forum may say Greybeard. My folks are born and raised in Sheffield for ever and waldershef's description os quite right so nurr.

C'mon Sheffield lads n lasses. Save our fish cakes.

Dragon

coyleys
30-10-2005, 22:12
Im an Expat Dee Dar, still with a strong Sheffield accent, and proud of it, now living in the Nottinghamshire area, my daughter however has a neutral accent with this in mind a year ago she started at Sheffield university and instantly was forced to assume the role of interpreter for her fellow non sheff students, things like:
Aar da gooin mush
O da or reight den
Dornt get mardy
Dornt get lairy
I do tend to laugh when my daughter try's to emulate a sheffield accent.
Working with the general public whenever i do encounter someone with this accent i tend to force a conversation onto them, probably as i miss my fellow Dee Dars.
I assume we have all read -Weez Mi Dad by Fred Pass

ybother
31-10-2005, 10:40
its awwwreet.

thaaanooose

Strix
04-11-2005, 02:26
Originally posted by Doncastrian
The S Yorks and W Yorks accent is also regularly voted the most honest and trustworthy accent for some reason.
Funny, I didn't know that was how you spelt 'Scottish'

That's why you get so many radio ads done in a scottish accent.
Except local ones - which don't count, as they are trying to be 'local' when they clearly are not :suspect:

spyro2000
04-11-2005, 02:31
I cant stand the Sheffield accent to be honest. Its one of the worst accents imo.

p.s. Yes I know the brummy accent is worse before anyone says it. Its just lucky I havent got that acent either ;)

Babooshka
04-11-2005, 07:46
It is just vile and common and makes people sound lazy and as though they have no self-worth. Sorry to those who speak like that! Personal preference. I cringe even when I hear some of my relations open their mouths. I'm so thankful I do not speak with such an accent.

Yellowrose
04-11-2005, 15:48
As a Sheffielder who has taught in the Essex area and Sheffield, I found it easier to teach reading/phonics to Sheffield children because we sound our vowels correctly!
eg short a as in bath, path etc If you say a is for apple than sound out b-a-t-h it seems silly to pronounce it barth. They dont pronounce u properly either!

However, one reception class child in Hertfordshire said to me "You dont speak very well do you?" So, even though she was only 5, I had to put her right!

PureShefBabe
04-11-2005, 16:17
I love the Yorkshire accent.

I live in Leicestershire now and they all sound like Londoners to me. When I go back to Sheffield though I realise that I've pretty much lost my accent but it comes back if I stay for a week or so.

dalesc
04-11-2005, 16:20
sounds nice and friendly, but also a bit thick. (i'm from sheffield, and my southern friends think i sound like those old creature comfort adverts, which make us northerners sound thick)

Rich
04-11-2005, 16:25
Originally posted by dalesc
sounds nice and friendly, but also a bit thick. (i'm from sheffield, and my southern friends think i sound like those old creature comfort adverts, which make us northerners sound thick)

Meh, in my experience most Southerners think anything North of Birmingham might as well be on Mars anyway :loopy:

buxomhussy
04-11-2005, 16:56
I'm proud of my Yorkshire accent.

I think the Yorkshire accent is sexeeeee

;)

yuppypuppy
02-12-2005, 12:17
been working on a sheffield accent for over 5 years now...unfortunately to no avail, still sound like a right dirty southerner innit!

shoegal
02-12-2005, 12:25
I'm Scottish but have lived in Sheff for 12 years. I fear I have a lifelong addiction to the Yorkshire accent - I love it! You can't beat a Sheff accent - keep talking boys. Yum.:lol:

clea_4eva
02-12-2005, 17:52
the yorkshire accent is class:thumbsup:

confused
02-12-2005, 19:14
i dont mind it but my older cousins always tell me off when i get an accent.

MorkandMindy
02-12-2005, 20:59
nowt wrong wi' it

cant beat good ol sheffield language!

asbo
03-12-2005, 14:17
Some bird told me listening to blunkett turns her on - weird or what?