View Full Version : Where are they now? and what are they doing?


barmyowls
19-03-2008, 21:17
Just a thought for x blades and x owls players! as the title says

"Where are they now?"

I think chris waddle and david hirst still plays sunday league football in sheffield somewhere!!

Please add other x players if you know!!!:)

happyhippy
19-03-2008, 21:20
Kevin Gage has got the Green Dragon in Dronfield, I believe, and Carl Bradshaw is now a builder.

barmyowls
19-03-2008, 21:27
Kevin Gage has got the Green Dragon in Dronfield, I believe, and Carl Bradshaw is now a builder.

I did not know that about Bradshaw! i forgot about him where did he go to after he left blades?

bladebloke
19-03-2008, 21:50
peter swan and tony kay are book makers

tommy craig is a ladys hair dresser

chris woods is scareing crows

terry curran is tarmacing drives

di canio is preparing to invade poland

david pleat runs an escort agency

ron atkinson is working for imigration

and springett got a job working with the bbc. :hihi:

Agent Gypo
19-03-2008, 22:22
From our 2000 - 2002 squads...

Lee Morris (£3m!!!), 27, was released by Yeovil Town last season and has since been unable to find another club.

Wayne Quinn, 32, plays for Penzance, after being unable to find a pro club since he was dropped by West Ham aged 28.

Carl Asaba, 35, was released by Millwall in 2006 and has not found another club.

Paul Devlin, 35, is now at Halesowen.

Robert Page, 33 is at Huddersfield.

Iffy Onuora, 38, is now a coach at Lincoln.

Jon Harley, 28, is still at Burnley.

David Kelly was last at Derby as a coach, aged 42.

Jon-Paul McGovern, 27, was last at Swindon and seems to be unattached.

Andrew Morrison resigned as assistant manager of Worcester City last season, aged 37.

Shaun Derry, aged 30, is currently at Crystal Palace.

Shane Nicholson, 37, is a coach at Chesterfield.

Patrick Suffo, 30, now plays for non-league Spanish side UD Puertollano.

Gus Uhlenbeek (my tip for worst ever Blades full-back), 37, is without a club since being released by Halifax.

Laurent Djaffo is an agent and scout.

Lee Thompson, 26, is now at Boston.

Georges Santos, 37, plays for Farsley Celtic.

Frank Talia, 35, was released by Wycombe last season.

Tyrone Thompson, 26, signed for Crawley in 2007 but is yet to play a game.

Steve Yates, 38, was released by Morecambe last season and is without a club.

Rob Ullathorne, 36, plays for Tamworth.

Wilko De Vogt, 33, plays for non-league Dutch side Top Oss.

Alex Notman (loan signing from Man Utd), now plays for non-league Wroxham, aged 28.

Peter Ndlovu, 35, is now a player-coach at Mamelodi Sundowns.

Anyone know what happened to James Thomas? He came on loan from Blackburn. I seem to remember him scoring 1 goal after missing loads of sitters in about 10 games for us. He went mental in front of the kop and never played for us again.

freyasdad
19-03-2008, 22:54
Plenty of time on your hands then AG?
Must be nice to sit on the computer and compile a set of facts like that.
Good effort fella.

Agent Gypo
19-03-2008, 23:39
Plenty of time on your hands then AG?
Must be nice to sit on the computer and compile a set of facts like that.
Good effort fella.

They made me do it.

happyhippy
20-03-2008, 01:54
I did not know that about Bradshaw! i forgot about him where did he go to after he left blades?

He didn't as I recall.

Charlie Hartfield has had unemployed spells on and off over the last few years. Last I heard he was doing personal fitness stuff. Given how he played, maybe he's helping Curtis Woodhouse out, who is now a professional boxer. Charlie was of course an amateur boxer before joining Arsenal.

Mitch Ward had the Black-a-Moor Inn at Troway some years ago, but what he's doing now I've no idea.

canadablade
20-03-2008, 02:03
Colin Franks works in the printing industry just outside Toronto in a place called Oakville and Cliff Calvert is a fireman in Burlington.
Speak to Colin every once in a while.
Alan Woodward is in Tulsa USA not sure what he does for a living there but, think its something to do with football.

Robbie Loving
20-03-2008, 02:33
He didn't as I recall. .

He went to Norwich, Wigan and Scunthorpe after us.

I'm sure he went to Millwall too for some reason.

jossyboy
20-03-2008, 07:31
good thread this, what-ever happened to martin smith after he moved to huddersfield?

Farmboy
20-03-2008, 08:03
John Harkes is now Director of Youth Development at DC United in the US.

Roland Nilsson (best right back Owls ever had) is head coach at Malmo FF in Sweden. He and I share the same birthday...just found out. :D

Phil King is retired from footy but still runs out for Aston Villa in the Annual Masters Tournament. He is also involved with Swindon Town and currently commentates on their matches for BBC Radio Wiltshire.

That'll do for now as I have to get to work. :D

Billy Casper
20-03-2008, 09:15
peter swan and tony kay are book makers

tommy craig is a ladys hair dresser

chris woods is scareing crows

terry curran is tarmacing drives

di canio is preparing to invade poland

david pleat runs an escort agency

ron atkinson is working for imigration

and springett got a job working with the bbc. :hihi:

Hey, ya forgot to mention that Mel Sterland had just promoted to Manager of his local post office! :hihi:

F. Sidebottom
20-03-2008, 10:12
peter swan and tony kay are book makers

tommy craig is a ladys hair dresser

chris woods is scareing crows

terry curran is tarmacing drives

di canio is preparing to invade poland

david pleat runs an escort agency

ron atkinson is working for imigration

and springett got a job working with the bbc. :hihi:

Nice to see that we've had some memorable characters at Hillsborough.

Far short of Tony currie, I can't really remember any famous ex players of united.

canadablade
20-03-2008, 11:17
Nice to see that we've had some memorable characters at Hillsborough.

Far short of Tony currie, I can't really remember any famous ex players of united.

Alan Woodward ;)

And for me seeing as Farmboy posted Roland Nilsson (best right back Owls ever had)
I would have Len Badger ahead of Nilsson in any team of mine :P

Stockers
20-03-2008, 11:56
Dane Whitehouse - work for a parcel delivery firm in Sheffield.
Glynn Hodges - Youth team coach at Blackburn (looking fitter now than he did in his palying days).
Paul Beesley - was youth team coach at Leeds and Notts County last season.
Wayne Quinn - someone pointed out playing for Penzanze - also owns a caravan park down there.

F.Sidebottom - as for Wednesday having characters, don't make me laugh....Wednesday are one of the dullest clubs around highlighted by the number of dullard farmer boys who support them. You can spot a Wednesday fan at 100 paces, usually accompanied by a beer belly, a jumper tucked into their stone wash jeans, a pair of reebok classics and a pair od white sports socks to match their pale completion.

Also Wednesday have more ginger fans than any other team in the league - FACT!!

mikeG
20-03-2008, 11:58
Kuqi left the Owls to play for a Premier side I think. By now, he has dropped a division or two I suspect. Some player left the Owls and scored regularly for Huddersfield but I can't remember his name.

NEKRO138
20-03-2008, 11:59
Alan Cork is now tour guitarist for Judas Preist.

F. Sidebottom
20-03-2008, 12:01
Dane Whitehouse - work for a parcel delivery firm in Sheffield.
Glynn Hodges - Youth team coach at Blackburn (looking fitter now than he did in his palying days).
Paul Beesley - was youth team coach at Leeds and Notts County last season.
Wayne Quinn - someone pointed out playing for Penzanze - also owns a caravan park down there.

F.Sidebottom - as for Wednesday having characters, don't make me laugh....Wednesday are one of the dullest clubs around highlighted by the number of dullard farmer boys who support them. You can spot a Wednesday fan at 100 paces, usually accompanied by a beer belly, a jumper tucked into their stone wash jeans, a pair of reebok classics and a pair od white sports socks to match their pale completion.

Also Wednesday have more ginger fans than any other team in the league - FACT!!

Have a look at Agent Gypo's post near the top regarding your 2000-02 squad.

All went on to.......absolutely nothing.

Doesn't quite compare with the Owls squads of the 90's where we had a full team of internationals does it?

NEKRO138
20-03-2008, 12:04
Incredible how a simple thread about what former players are up to can so easily turn into yet another tedious argument.

F. Sidebottom
20-03-2008, 12:08
Incredible how a simple thread about what former players are up to can so easily turn into yet another tedious argument.

Starting here:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=3274749&postcount=4

Stockers
20-03-2008, 12:11
Have a look at Agent Gypo's post near the top regarding your 2000-02 squad.

All went on to.......absolutely nothing.

Doesn't quite compare with the Owls squads of the 90's where we had a full team of internationals does it?

This is a thread about what they went onto, all Wednesdays internationals went onto what?

Chris Woods - a Blades living legend, the way he let Deano's scuff through his hands and legs of the way he shouldered the ball to Bobby, Bobby, Bobby Davison!!! :hihi:

David Hirst - runs Foxhills Slimming World, unsuccessfully.

Chris Waddle - sits up the boozer in Dore supping all day while half the village have a go on his daughter!!

Carlton Palmer - ran an unsuccessful restaurant

Phil King - still trying to bring the mullet look back into fashion

Worthington - being as bitter as any Wednesday fan could be about life.

Mark Bright - still in the closet

Andy Pearce - see Phil King

crookesey
20-03-2008, 12:37
Alan Woodward ;)

And for me seeing as Farmboy posted Roland Nilsson (best right back Owls ever had)
I would have Len Badger ahead of Nilsson in any team of mine :P

I think that 108 caps for his country speaks for itself CB. ;)

nuromantic
20-03-2008, 12:41
Far short of Tony currie, I can't really remember any famous ex players of united.

Dean Saunders
Ian Rush
Paul McGrath
Steve Bruce
Mick Jones
Andy Goram
Martin Peters
Stewart Houston
Vinnie Jones
Peter Withe
Brian Deane

Agent Gypo
20-03-2008, 12:52
Have a look at Agent Gypo's post near the top regarding your 2000-02 squad.

All went on to.......absolutely nothing.

Doesn't quite compare with the Owls squads of the 90's where we had a full team of internationals does it?


I wondered how long it would be before someone stuck the oar in. Go on then, as you insist on being pedantic, lets have the list of your wonderful ex-players that have achieved so much since 2000 (relegation from Premier League).

I didn't include players like Phil Jagielka, Kazim-Richards and Marcus Bent, as everyone knows what they are doing.

Stockers
20-03-2008, 13:27
You've got to laugh at the "side full of internationals" quote about the 1991 to 1993 team, i can think of the following;

Woods
Nilsson
Worthington

who could be classed at full time internationals, i am willing to stand corrected though.

John1954
20-03-2008, 14:39
You've got to laugh at the "side full of internationals" quote about the 1991 to 1993 team, i can think of the following;

Woods
Nilsson
Worthington

who could be classed at full time internationals, i am willing to stand corrected though.
Palmer
Sinton
Hirst
Waddle
Sheridan
Harkes
Francis
Anderson
Wilson
Walker

Stockers
20-03-2008, 14:49
Palmer - a Black Geoff Thomas
Sinton - he never played for England while at Wednesday
Hirst - made a couple of appearances, great striker.
Waddle - never played for England while at Wedesday
Sheridan - a bit part ROI player - (though a great player)
Harkes - USA who were poor at the time
Francis - hahaha!!
Anderson - hahaha!!!
Wilson - hahaha!!
Walker - see Waddle and Sinton

Does that make Franny Jeffers and England international?

I didn't realise the current Blades side is peppered with internationals;

Beattie
Ugo (whats him name)
Gary Speed
Paddy Kenny
Geary
Naysmith
Gillespie
Cotterill

hahahaha!!!

mrsteabag
20-03-2008, 14:53
Palmer - a Black Geoff Thomas
Sinton - he never played for England while at Wednesday
Hirst - made a couple of appearances, great striker.
Waddle - never played for England while at Wedesday
Sheridan - a bit part ROI player - (though a great player)
Harkes - USA who were poor at the time
Francis - hahaha!!
Anderson - hahaha!!!
Wilson - hahaha!!
Walker - see Waddle and Sinton

Does that make Franny Jeffers and England international?

I didn't realise the current Blades side is peppered with internationals;

Beattie
Ugo (whats him name)
Gary Speed
Paddy Kenny
Geary
Naysmith
Gillespie
Cotterill

hahahaha!!!

you missed Stephen Quinn off that list ;)

nuromantic
20-03-2008, 14:57
Palmer
Sinton
Hirst
Waddle
Sheridan
Harkes
Francis
Anderson
Wilson
Walker

Hirst?? 135 minutes in an England shirt. Friendlies only too, mind. Didn;t make the grade for a proper game.

Stockers
20-03-2008, 15:07
you missed Stephen Quinn off that list ;)

and Luton Shelton!!

bladebloke
20-03-2008, 15:11
Starting here:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=3274749&postcount=4


you grass.

Stockers
20-03-2008, 15:13
you grass.

Trust a pig fan to be the school prefect !!! :hihi:

John1954
20-03-2008, 15:29
Palmer - a Black Geoff Thomas
Sinton - he never played for England while at Wednesday
Hirst - made a couple of appearances, great striker.
Waddle - never played for England while at Wedesday
Sheridan - a bit part ROI player - (though a great player)
Harkes - USA who were poor at the time
Francis - hahaha!!
Anderson - hahaha!!!
Wilson - hahaha!!
Walker - see Waddle and Sinton

Does that make Franny Jeffers and England international?

I didn't realise the current Blades side is peppered with internationals;

Beattie
Ugo (whats him name)
Gary Speed
Paddy Kenny
Geary
Naysmith
Gillespie
Cotterill

hahahaha!!!
Andy Sinton played twice for England while at Wednesday.

The original quote did not claim they were all current internationals and yes, Jeffers is an England international.

And of course, Ian Rush will always be remembered as a Sheffield United great.

barmyowls
20-03-2008, 16:14
Chris woods went to everton as keeper Trainer!!!!

mack69
20-03-2008, 17:58
Chris woods went to everton as keeper Trainer!!!!

poor everton:) and b.b first time ive seen that post that frank grassed you up for i found it funny ;)

Farmboy
20-03-2008, 19:36
Can't you guys just find players that you like/liked and find the info about what they're up to now instead of pointing out how much better ex-blades players have done than owls and vice versa? It's pathetic and not what this thread was started for. :roll:

Gingerbarf
20-03-2008, 20:32
Didn't Pearson the manager of the scum from across the water (Southampton) play for the Owls?? Hope he takes them down!!

mack69
20-03-2008, 20:40
Didn't Pearson the manager of the scum from across the water (Southampton) play for the Owls?? Hope he takes them down!!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/images/2005/07/13/wednesday_lift_cup_350x300.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/image_galleries/owls_man_utd_91_gallery.shtml%3F6&h=300&w=350&sz=21&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=4QwhYTM8U4yh3M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnigel%2Bpearson%2Blifting%2Bleague%2B cup%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

hes the 1 with the trophy ;)

barmyowls
21-03-2008, 00:08
Didn't Pearson the manager of the scum from across the water (Southampton) play for the Owls?? Hope he takes them down!!

Pearson was a great player for owls over the years

Farmboy
21-03-2008, 08:32
He still lived in Sheffield until a couple of years ago I think. My mum used to work with his wife when he was still an Owls player.

bladesman 91
21-03-2008, 12:00
Chris woods went to everton as keeper Trainer!!!!

no wonder they can't produce any good goalie's with teflon hands in charge:hihi:

bladesman 91
21-03-2008, 12:03
Can't you guys just find players that you like/liked and find the info about what they're up to now instead of pointing out how much better ex-blades players have done than owls and vice versa? It's pathetic and not what this thread was started for. :roll:

sorry mate ,too much like hard work:gag:

mickdalewood
21-03-2008, 12:26
Isn't big Sam Ellis at bumole lane now with Blackwell on the coaching side....... remember him hitting the clock on top of the north stand

bladesman 91
21-03-2008, 12:49
Isn't big Sam Ellis at bumole lane now with Blackwell on the coaching side....... remember him hitting the clock on top of the north stand

take it he was a wendy then

lidz
21-03-2008, 13:27
Littlejohn is laying in bed with me and Metro now

mrsteabag
21-03-2008, 13:36
Robert Page and David Holdsworth are both living in Sheffield now

(both my hero's too :D)

The Manager
21-03-2008, 14:37
no wonder they can't produce any good goalie's with teflon hands in charge:hihi:

You could be right on that i never rated Woods at all:hihi:

The Manager
21-03-2008, 14:39
Is sheridan Still the oldham manager? Think pressman was still playing for sumone last year!!

blueandwhite
21-03-2008, 17:09
Is sheridan Still the oldham manager? Think pressman was still playing for sumone last year!!

He is still managing Oldham and doing a fine job too.Pressman played for Portadown last season before calling it a day and becoming goalkeeping coach at Scunny.

Cynthia
22-03-2008, 03:31
This was in our local newspaper, last week. It is a fairly long article that I have shortened.

English soccer star Paul Peschisolido is to run a summer camp in Pickering. (Pickering is just east of Toronto).
According to Pickering Soccer Club business manager , work is under way to allow local soccer star Paul to conduct a soccer camp this July. He's expected to be back in Pickering in May .
Peschisolido whose parents still reside in Pickering is anxious to return home to Canada and attend to the youth soccer camp--to be called the Pesch Premeirship Academy- in Pickering.

Thought that CB may pay him a visit as Pickering is a 15 minute drive for him (and the next town to where I live).

saxon51
22-03-2008, 13:15
Kuqi left the Owls to play for a Premier side I think. By now, he has dropped a division or two I suspect. Some player left the Owls and scored regularly for Huddersfield but I can't remember his name.
Andy Booth.

brooksy
22-03-2008, 13:25
Carl Shutt is working at a travel Agents at crystal peaks.:):)Also Mick Pickering ex owls player is a rep for the brewery.:P

mgblade
23-03-2008, 10:59
didn't john gannon run some sort of football school?
seen paul beesley in meadowhead area, and keith curle was in the psalter tavern last saturday night.

Stockers
23-03-2008, 11:17
didn't john gannon run some sort of football school?
seen paul beesley in meadowhead area, and keith curle was in the psalter tavern last saturday night.

John Gannon was manager at Mansfield for a while, not sure if he's still there.

Beesley still lives around Sheffield, well Dronfield.

mr_busdriver
23-03-2008, 13:15
Littlejohn is laying in bed with me and Metro now




Little John?

Whos that? and why was he called little John? was he about 5ft 3?

Compound_Kid
26-03-2008, 09:08
That's Adrian Littlejohn...
http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/D2C36BC1-E7C4-48A8-A22E-37A376A1356F/0/Plymouth_Littlejohn_odd.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Littlejohn

BTW,Wads plays for the Sunday League team I help to run. 5 goals in the last 7 games he's played in - the man's still got it...

boboskins
26-03-2008, 10:30
Dean Saunders - Liverpool
Ian Rush - Liverpool
Paul McGrath - Man Utd
Steve Bruce - Man Utd
Mick Jones - Leeds
Andy Goram - Rangers
Martin Peters - West Ham
Stewart Houston - Man Utd
Vinnie Jones - Wimbledon
Peter Withe - Villa
Brian Deane


Out of those only Brian Deane could be classed as a famous United player like Tony Currie. All the others made their name at other clubs and came to the Blades at the end of their careers! If your doing it that way I could easily reel off a load of Wednesday players like Steve Nicol, Bruce Grobbelaar, Dave Bennett etc...

Anyway no one has mentioned Thierry Henry double and ex-United player Ashley Sestanovich, now detained at Her Majesty's pleasure.

Boro star the brains behind fatal robbery (http://www.aldershot.co.uk/news/2005/2005715/boro_star_the_brains_behind_fatal_robbery)

Earwiggo
26-03-2008, 11:40
I would have Len Badger ahead of Nilsson in any team of mine ???


CB,CB,CB tut tut, now I know that you know nowt abaht football!
Chris Waddle is a soccer pundit and journalist, Carlton Palmer I think, runs an internet based estate agency and David Hirst is a Beer Quality Inspector (taste division) for John Smiths, Tetleys, Marstons, Abbeydale Brewery, Greene King, Stones', Carlsberg and I think, 38 other breweries. All still live in Sheffield... Once an Owl, always an Owl.

Earwiggo
26-03-2008, 12:10
Thinking abaht it, Roland Nilsson is probably the best right back that ever played for anyone at any time in this country, if not the world. I went to the Rumbelows Cup final in 1991 and taped it to watch later when I got back. During the build up (in which all the pundits said that Wednesday hadn't got a chance), most pundits were praising 'young Lee Sharpe' It was young Lee Sharpe this and young Lee Sharpe that, my word, he was going to slaughter us!!!
In the 3rd or 4th minute, he skinned Nilsson down the left, fired in a cross, and some multi millionaire stabbed it just wide. Bricking it? We were for the first 10 minutes! How many times do you think the great young Lee Sharpe touched the ball in the last 80 minutes?
ANSWER: About 5 and he did absolutely nothing. Roland tied him in knots, anticipated every pass to Sharpe, and halted any move or pass that young Lee Sharpe tried to make. Not one of the pundits mentioned young Lee Sharpe at half or full time, and Roly got no credit from them for putting the great young Lee Sharpe (and one or two other United 'greats') in his pocket. Roly did it week in and week out in the Prem, NOBODY ever got the better of him for more than 5 minutes. The man was sheer class!!

igm1
26-03-2008, 12:55
F.Sidebottom - as for Wednesday having characters, don't make me laugh....Wednesday are one of the dullest clubs around highlighted by the number of dullard farmer boys who support them. You can spot a Wednesday fan at 100 paces, usually accompanied by a beer belly, a jumper tucked into their stone wash jeans, a pair of reebok classics and a pair od white sports socks to match their pale completion.

Also Wednesday have more ginger fans than any other team in the league - FACT!!

That is quite possibly the biggest load of bull that I've seen in my 20 years.

F. Sidebottom
26-03-2008, 13:53
That is quite possibly the biggest load of bull that I've seen in my 20 years.

I didn't even respond to it when he posted it - no point in wasting valuable keystrokes on a clueless douche bag.

chuffinel
26-03-2008, 14:22
That is quite possibly the biggest load of bull that I've seen in my 20 years.

Maybe when you reach the age of 21 years then, you'll be able to pick out posts that are made with tongue firmly in cheek. :gag:

chuffinel
26-03-2008, 14:24
I didn't even respond to it when he posted it - no point in wasting valuable keystrokes on a clueless douche bag.

Thought that you would be old enough though to recognize sarcasm when you see it. :gag:

igm1
26-03-2008, 15:16
Maybe when you reach the age of 21 years then, you'll be able to pick out posts that are made with tongue firmly in cheek. :gag:

There's a difference between posts made tongue firmly in cheek and ones that are completely pointless rubbish.

F. Sidebottom
26-03-2008, 16:18
Thought that you would be old enough though to recognize sarcasm when you see it. :gag:

I wouldn't have called it sarcasm and it didn't really add anything to the 'debate'. If he'd come back and criticised some of the characters who Wednesday have had over the years then fair enough. But to say we haven't had any, well there isn't any point in getting in to that argument - I think everyone knows we have.

I don't mind a bit of banter - but it's got to arouse a certain level of interest. I'd rather battle it out with some of the more 'whiley' blades on here.

Now, if you don't mind, I have white socks to wash.

chuffinel
26-03-2008, 18:43
There's a difference between posts made tongue firmly in cheek and ones that are completely pointless rubbish.

Well, you should know :hihi::hihi:

chuffinel
26-03-2008, 18:48
I wouldn't have called it sarcasm and it didn't really add anything to the 'debate'. If he'd come back and criticised some of the characters who Wednesday have had over the years then fair enough. But to say we haven't had any, well there isn't any point in getting in to that argument - I think everyone knows we have.

I don't mind a bit of banter - but it's got to arouse a certain level of interest. I'd rather battle it out with some of the more 'whiley' blades on here.

Now, if you don't mind, I have white socks to wash.

You're correct. It wasn't really sarcasm but more of a wind-up.
Methinks that some of you guys are getting a little "twitchy" and allowing the humour of some individuals to go over your heads.
Relax, the Owls are not going down. :|

Rocklegend
26-03-2008, 19:02
good thread this, what-ever happened to martin smith after he moved to huddersfield? I think he still plays for Darlington.As for James Thomas I'm sure he was at Swansea a couple of years ago but had a bad injury.