View Full Version : Millers in administration


CHAIRBOY
18-03-2008, 17:55
Rotherham United are to be hit with a 10-point penalty after going into administration just two years after being saved from liquidation.

barmyowls
18-03-2008, 17:58
Sorry to hear this!!!!

brooksy
18-03-2008, 17:59
Terrible news.Been coming a while tho by all accounts.:(:(

OLDOWL 1952
18-03-2008, 18:19
Never been same club since Ken Booth left

musicinmotio
18-03-2008, 18:23
GUTTED,me being a millers fan i feel a dads army moment coming on were doomed were all doomed

CHAIRBOY
18-03-2008, 18:35
Never been same club since Ken Booth left

Isn't he part of the problem in that he owns the ground and the Millers are mere tenants?

SpeedwayDan
18-03-2008, 18:41
it's a pity it came to this, hope they can recover

blueandwhite
18-03-2008, 18:47
Bad news for the millers but cheer up,if our takeover goes t*ts up we wont be far behind.

Heyesey
18-03-2008, 18:52
Isn't he part of the problem in that he owns the ground and the Millers are mere tenants?

So I've heard, but I don't know where there are any links to hard facts.

Heyesey
18-03-2008, 19:28
The specific reasons given for going into administration are: falling attendances, and a lower-than-anticipated insurance payout after last summer's floods.

It does not necessarily follow that those are the two biggest drains on the club's finances; they're just the two that were not budgeted for.

This might have put the knackers on Rotherham's chances of promotion. Not only have they lost ten points, but an administrator is likely to sell off assets, and their best players are about the only assets around.

CHAIRBOY
18-03-2008, 19:36
So I've heard, but I don't know where there are any links to hard facts.

I think it's here?

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1720356,00.html#article_continue

Heyesey
18-03-2008, 19:46
Good man. So they are repaying (or trying to repay) a loan to Booth, and he is the landlord of Millmoor.

Doesn't say how much he actually charges in rent. I have heard that it's extortionate, but again, I have no source (I don't know if the people who told ME had access to hard facts.)

Then again, given that he kept the club alive for years and effectively paid someone three million quid to take it off him, it'd be hard to cast him in the light of the evil scrounger sending the club to the wall.

scottf
19-03-2008, 10:22
booth charges the millers £8k a week for the ground- thats well over 400k a year- for a club rotherhams size thats suh a drain.

the council needs to pull there fingers out and help them build them a ground like doncaster have done.

freyasdad
19-03-2008, 10:32
If this carries on with Rotherham then they will find themselves going in to the conference.
It is a sad day for football in S.Yorkshire.

Heyesey
19-03-2008, 12:39
the council needs to pull there fingers out and help them build them a ground like doncaster have done.


I wonder if part of the problem there is that, while it's very close to the town centre, Millmoor is not exactly an attractive place to site luxury new housing, or a shopping complex - surrounded as it is on three sides by a scrapyard site.

Many clubs have sold prime-land grounds for development and relocated to somewhere less desirable for housing; I assume Rotherham couldn't make any money by doing so. They really do seem to be in a cleft stick.

It'd be nice, as a football fan, to see the council help them build a ground - but can the council justify the spending? They're responsible for a quarter of a million people and not above 10,000 of those go to watch the Millers.

Ned Ludd
19-03-2008, 12:49
A sad day for football in South Yorkshire
You have to feel for Millers fans particularly after a promising start to this season
Let's hope they get sorted........and a new ground seems paramount for long-term survival

CHAIRBOY
20-03-2008, 20:45
Valued staff already departing Millmoor -http://www.thestar.co.uk/football/MILLERS-CRISIS-Groundsman-goes-in.3897543.jp

DynoDon
20-03-2008, 23:17
I wonder if part of the problem there is that, while it's very close to the town centre, Millmoor is not exactly an attractive place to site luxury new housing, or a shopping complex - surrounded as it is on three sides by a scrapyard site.

Many clubs have sold prime-land grounds for development and relocated to somewhere less desirable for housing; I assume Rotherham couldn't make any money by doing so. They really do seem to be in a cleft stick.

It'd be nice, as a football fan, to see the council help them build a ground - but can the council justify the spending? They're responsible for a quarter of a million people and not above 10,000 of those go to watch the Millers.

Part of the problem must be there can't be a lot of premium land in Rotherham centre as there's no retail demand. The Keepmoat was all paid for in advance by selling land around it at Lakeside.

The actual football stadium at the Keepmoat only cost £20 mill. Newer ones, a bit smaller have since been built for £14 million. With the scale of that Orgreave development in Rotherham with UK Coal, their council could have stipulated including a stadium as a sweetener for the public quite easily and it wouldn't have dented UK Coals massive profits they'll make the land.

Also I doubt Rotherham Council would fund it themselves now, despite being receptive to the idea fairly recently, after the disgraceful hoo hah of opposition councillors in the regional media to the Keepmoat making an initial 20,000 a week loss and the SMC trying to change the terms of the lease to Rovers paying £600,000 a year, although the terms of the lease are set in stone for 25 years so it won't happen. It's more of a beg for it.

In the Rovrum councillors minds it'll mean massive losses for them and United having to pay even more, even though the losses are miniscule in reality for a start-up project that didn't cost a bean in building liabilities and has greatly enhanced the borough for visitors using it (compared to BV)