What activities have you been up to?

How much have you raised?

is it today :help: ???

Well, as my dogs need a walk and its damn cold out there then Id say I will be sporting a red nose around Graves Park pretty shortly after getting out there and till about 5 mins after I get home!

my daughter went off to school wearing red, with red hearts on her face and red tinsel in her hair. the boys refused face paint and red hair gel (as only 4 yr olds would!)
dunno what my work place is doing............probably nothing because the managers are too po faced to allow such frivolity!

:D :D :D

It's today...

I just made 2 years without crisps... How chuffed am I :)


Beyond that, well nothing directly but I've been on the sidelines for a whole load of other things that I can't claim as my own but it all helps..

Good luck all those doing something or just dipping their hands into their pockets... In fact, to anyone who does anything ever :)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Martin_s
[B]It's today...

I just made 2 years without crisps... How chuffed am I :)


What an awful thought - 2 years without Walkers Sensations Red Chilli or Seabrooks Beefy or M&S Spring Onion.....(I could go on...might just open a new thread on yummy crisps instead...) :thumbsup:

I am sat at my desk wearing a red top - as are the most of the other 500 people who work here. We have all paid at least £1 to come to work in 'casual' dress which the company matches £1 for £1. As its a big company with offices all around the country, the total raised is usually quite big.

There are quite a few raffles going on and in my dept we are charing people 50p a go to play space invaders with a prize for the highest score at the end of the day.

After my shift here today, I am then off to our call centre which from 7pm to 2am will form part of the Red Nose Day phone lines taking your pledges. So phone in to make a donation tonight and you might get to speak to a sheffield forumer !!!!

:cool:

I am sat here with bright red hair and wearing a red nose putting £1 into the tin everytime i swear and believe me- with all of the siht i have got today- thats quite alot of money!!

This red hair stuff best wash out!!!!

its nice to see michael jackson getting involved,he turned up for his latest appearance in his pjama's and his false noes.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'm sitting here wearing a blonde wig with a black sparkly cowboy hat and a furry pink cardagain thingy with a huge pink fur collar. Couldn't find anything red so came pink instead!

i am doing nothing :D i am definitely not giving any money to them :D got better things to spend my money on

Originally posted by craigmason
i am doing nothing :D i am definitely not giving any money to them :D got better things to spend my money on

Like . . . . :confused:

Originally posted by Lestat
Like . . . . :confused:

going down the pub

Ah the spirit of giving!

ive just won the works red nose quiz so im going to go drink my prize of a bottle of red martini rosso and get drunk this afternoon!!!!!!!

Originally posted by craigmason
going down the pub

We be sure to think of all the starving africans and needy people around the world when you have your pint of lager won't u.

my daughter is spending the night in a shed at wealtheof school......shame really,i was going down to cha cha's for a nice meal and a chat with djshowman from the forum, but i aint got a baby sitter now:| :| :| :|

Originally posted by scottf
We be sure to think of all the starving africans and needy people around the world when you have your pint of lager won't u.

not a chance :nono: let them :gag:

Originally posted by craigmason
not a chance :nono: let them :gag:

not nice at all mate:|

Originally posted by kirky
not nice at all mate:|

Don't be alarmed Kirky, it's only Craigmason (irritating agitator)... Karma will get him in the end!

Originally posted by scottf
We be sure to think of all the starving africans and needy people around the world when you have your pint of lager won't u.

How do you know that he hasnt contributed, i am going to get drunk tonight but i have spent this morning raising money at work and because i raised part of this by doing a works quiz and winnig the alcohol i will be supping tonight then i have made my donation.

Plus he will no doubt be accosted by all the doormen tonight with their buckets collecting for Red nose Day.

Dont be so sanctimonious - if they want a pint have a pint or shall we all sell all our worldly goods to give to everyone else

Whilst i appluad the good work that the various charities do both in Britain and around the world i do think that if i gave to every single charity that advertises on telly, radio, magazine, stop you in the street {the two guys at top of the market with the picture of the kids by the minibus come to mind, funny how they are after money yet only approach the "doleites" (not meant derogatory just a terminology) that wander ouyt of the market never the people who actually look like they have money or brains} or stand outside pubs on a night out with their buckets then i would be in need of a charity myself.

Give to who you want to give to but dont judge others or make sarcastic comments to others that don't.

(and before anyone flames me i support charities on a monthly basis how many is my business and how much is nothing to do with you)

Originally posted by sheffbag
How do you know that he hasnt contributed, i am going to get drunk tonight but i have spent this morning raising money at work and because i raised part of this by doing a works quiz and winnig the alcohol i will be supping tonight then i have made my donation.

Plus he will no doubt be accosted by all the doormen tonight with their buckets collecting for Red nose Day.

Dont be so sanctimonious - if they want a pint have a pint or shall we all sell all our worldly goods to give to everyone else

Whilst i appluad the good work that the various charities do both in Britain and around the world i do think that if i gave to every single charity that advertises on telly, radio, magazine, stop you in the street {the two guys at top of the market with the picture of the kids by the minibus come to mind, funny how they are after money yet only approach the "doleites" (not meant derogatory just a terminology) that wander ouyt of the market never the people who actually look like they have money or brains} or stand outside pubs on a night out with their buckets then i would be in need of a charity myself.

Give to who you want to give to but dont judge others or make sarcastic comments to others that don't.

(and before anyone flames me i support charities on a monthly basis how many is my business and how much is nothing to do with you)

I appreciate what your saying and i agree that u can't give to every charity but when he says stuff like this-

i am doing nothing i am definitely not giving any money to them got better things to spend my money on and then says let them starve- i would say that we are dealing with an individual who really doesn't care.

A friend of mine has offered himself as a slave for a day, bidding via eBay, details here: http://www.healthypc.co.uk/rnd2005.htm

My daughter went off to school in one of my suits this morning. As she's only 9, and about 2 foot shorter than me, she looks rather odd. She's also got her cheeks painted red and crazy pigtails all over her head.

I've seen a house that I really like but the vendors don't want to sell at the mo because there is still some interest.

Maybe I should offer the asking price and state if they sell to me I'll give an extra few grand to Comic Relief! :clap:

i ave dyed my hair red & it wont come out for bout 2-3weeks. but i dont mind it looks great.

a lot of the teachers in my sch ave come in with silly wigs & wearing their trousers, shirts & jackets on backwards all day. i love these fund rasing days & the telly keeps me entertained all night. lol

:D

Originally posted by DanSumption
My daughter went off to school in one of my suits this morning. As she's only 9, and about 2 foot shorter than me, she looks rather odd. She's also got her cheeks painted red and crazy pigtails all over her head.

And here she is: http://www.sumption.org/lifeless/002699.html

I personally am doing nothing for "red nose day"

not because I have no sympathy for the countries and people involved, but because fund-raising of this kind has been going on for years to little or no effect, I went through the years of buying noses, badges, making donations etc.

but how long should we continue to "prop-up" the third world? how is it right to send millions of pounds every year to them, when so many thousands of british residents live in relative poverty.

When people no longer sleep rough on the streets of sheffield and other such cities in this country, THEN I will think about donating money to other countries.

Sorry if you all disagree, but charity does and always should begin at home, so many people are in debt and making stupid donations on credit cards, surely the priority should be our own familys and children before others.

Originally posted by sheffield501
but how long should we continue to "prop-up" the third world? how is it right to send millions of pounds every year to them, when so many thousands of british residents live in relative poverty.

Two points: firstly, Red Nose Day gives I think 50% of money donated to charities working in the UK. Of course you can choose to go directly to one of those charities so that 100% of your money is spent in the UK, that's your choice, but you talk as if all of the money donated is spent abroad.

Secondly, a lot of third world poverty is because those countries are propping up our way of living. I don't have the time or inclination to go into all of the arguments, but a lot of their problems spring from colonial rule, plundering of their natural resources, loans given at high interest rates which benefitted the ruling classes but not the people, land being turned over to cash crops, subsidies, quotas and embargos preventing global fair trade, etc etc etc. Thankfully the current government are trying to kick up a fuss about this (one of the few good things they are doing right now) but 200 years of ill treatment by the UK and other colonial powers have gone a long way towards creating this situation, so it's only fair that we help them unmake it.

Finally, like you say there is a lot of relative poverty in the UK. In Africa, there is a lot of absolute poverty: people dying for want of food, not for want of video recorders.

well said, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

Originally posted by DanSumption
Two points: firstly, Red Nose Day gives I think 50% of money donated to charities working in the UK. Of course you can choose to go directly to one of those charities so that 100% of your money is spent in the UK, that's your choice, but you talk as if all of the money donated is spent abroad.

Secondly, a lot of third world poverty is because those countries are propping up our way of living. I don't have the time or inclination to go into all of the arguments, but a lot of their problems spring from colonial rule, plundering of their natural resources, loans given at high interest rates which benefitted the ruling classes but not the people, land being turned over to cash crops, subsidies, quotas and embargos preventing global fair trade, etc etc etc. Thankfully the current government are trying to kick up a fuss about this (one of the few good things they are doing right now) but 200 years of ill treatment by the UK and other colonial powers have gone a long way towards creating this situation, so it's only fair that we help them unmake it.

Finally, like you say there is a lot of relative poverty in the UK. In Africa, there is a lot of absolute poverty: people dying for want of food, not for want of video recorders.


firstly as with all these "charities" they normally have a small-print which says all profits or proceeds go to charity, which means once the presenters and co have been paid, the pitiful amount goes to the actual "good causes" which have been reported lately as being african abortion funds,

2ndly colonial rule ended some time ago, I am not from colonial stock, so why should I shoulder some sort of misguided guilt which your country seems to have placed on your shoulders

the country from which I originate has never benefitted from or had slaves from africa.

we've had band-aid, live aid, comic relief, oxfam and numerous other charities and fund raising events

and still no improvement.

you send your money and it makes no difference, cos most of it gets used by governments to buy guns!

still want to send your money? it'll probably get used to buy a gun to kill the very person you wanted to help.

Originally posted by shelley1
well said, stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

and comments like that are really constructive and intelligent
:loopy:

think you should aim that at yourself, dont know what your talking about!

Originally posted by sheffield501
firstly as with all these "charities" they normally have a small-print which says all profits or proceeds go to charity, which means once the presenters and co have been paid, the pitiful amount goes to the actual "good causes" which have been reported lately as being african abortion funds,
I think you'll find the presenters are doing this for free.

Of course there are administration costs, but the end result is still a good deal of money going to good causes (note the lack of quotation marks). I've not heard of any major charities which spend more than 15% on administation and some even manage to pay the administration costs out of interest payments prior to the money being spent. Administration costs are something which all charities are aware of and constantly work to keep down, and many people give their services free or at a reduced rate to help in this respect.

2ndly colonial rule ended some time ago, I am not from colonial stock, so why should I shoulder some sort of misguided guilt which your country seems to have placed on your shoulders
The effects of colonial rule have not ended. Have you ever bought, eaten or otherwise benefited from food? If so, chances are, you have contributed to a system which helps to keep the UK rich and less fortunate parts of the world poor.

This is not about guilt. It's about humanity.

the country from which I originate has never benefitted from or had slaves from africa.
The country in which you now live has. And the chances are that unless you are 100% self-sufficient you will have benefited from a system which, as I said, keeps these countries poor and you comfortable and ignorant.

(out of interest, where do you originate from?)

we've had band-aid, live aid, comic relief, oxfam and numerous other charities and fund raising events

and still no improvement.
Rubbish, there has been plenty of improvement and charitable donations make a huge difference. It's very easy to by cynical, to form your judgement on the basis of a few pictures you see on TV, rather harder to actually take the trouble to learn about about the subject you're talking about before starting to mouth off.

Of course there are still many problems all over the world, and will continue to be, but that's part of the nature of existence and you'd better get used to it. Your argument is on a par with saying "I've been paying tax to fund the bloody NHS all my life, and there are still people getting sick. Well, I've had enough, they're not getting any more of my money because they're obviously not doing anything".

(Hmm, probably not a good example as perhaps you would say that).

you send your money and it makes no difference, cos most of it gets used by governments to buy guns!

still want to send your money? it'll probably get used to buy a gun to kill the very person you wanted to help.
Again, that has been a problem in the past, but it's something the charities are very well aware of, and something they go to great lengths to avoid. Saying that "most of it gets used by governments to buy guns" is an out-and-out lie. Most of it gets used by charities to fund projects which they run themselves, guns don't even come into it.

Ultimately, it's always possible to find a negative and use that as an excuse for not giving, but I'd prefer it if you'd be like craigmason and say "I'm not giving anything because I couldn't give a toss", rather than rolling out a bunch of half-arsed excuses. Giving does make a difference, whether you choose to give or not is your own decision but please try to educate and inform yourself a bit better before you make that decision.

Ive had both my legs waxed at work today........and yes I am male! V.Painful....managed to raise £250 between me and a bloke who had his back waxed!

Originally posted by theimposter
Ive had both my legs waxed at work today........and yes I am male! V.Painful....managed to raise £250 between me and a bloke who had his back waxed!

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Well done! :clap:

Every year I watch Comic Relief. Every year I am humbled by the effort that people all over the UK put into raising money for causes both here and abroad. Absolutely amazing.

Comic Relief on TV is absolutely fantastic. Those actors/actresses/comedians/ennes/presenters/musicians etc giving up time to take part is amazing. My donation has gone. I am looking forward to watching the rest of the program. Credit where due - this is where Britain really is Great! (and that Little Britain sketch was grrreat!)

Well done to all! If you haven't donated yet, go on and donate a couple of quid. Yes, we are skint, we have bills to pay and food to buy...but a couple of pounds we won't really notice but it will make a lot of pounds when added up!

Have a great weekend!

Perhaps this thread should be merged with this one? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32093)

Well I baked 225 buns ,iced with a red nose on top ! I took them into school where I work and sold them within 10 mins !
I've managed to raise £53 not much but every little helps !
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Well done to DanSumption for a really well-argued explanation for why we should donate. I am not a regular giver to charity, and I do tend to get a bit cynical about "telethon culture", but it was good to see clearly laid out explanations of the reasons why it is our business.

I've been to http://www.rednoseday.com/ (http://) and donated online. Very easy and I've selected Gift Aid, which allows the charities to claim back the tax.

I hope DanSumption's arguments will persuade at least one other person to donate.

Originally posted by theimposter
Ive had both my legs waxed at work today........and yes I am male! V.Painful....managed to raise £250 between me and a bloke who had his back waxed!
Have you just been mentioned by Davina on the telly?!!!

Thanks chillicat, if it does persuade at least one other person to donate then it'll have been worth it.

Originally posted by DanSumption
Perhaps this thread should be merged with this one? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32093)

MOD: Thanks, merged.

Hope I have been mentioned by Davina! Been out most of the night boozing to numb the pain.....but it was worth it....I quite like being silky smooth!

is it me or has it got really bad on tv?

has anyone one brought the peter kay/tony christie single out today ?

amarillo single (http://www2.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=-1;2;-1;-1&sku=345188)

if you are having trouble finding it you can download it for free on winmx:/kazza thumbsup:

Originally posted by craigmason
has anyone one brought the peter kay/tony christie single out today ?

amarillo single (http://www2.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=-1;2;-1;-1&sku=345188)

if you are having trouble finding it you can download it for free on winmx:/kazza thumbsup:

any why would you want to download it for free?

A) Its illegal
B) the charity doesn't get any money you moron.

Originally posted by craigmason

[you can download it for free

Think you missed the point there hon......


I took over 500 calls on Friday night from people making pledges to comic relief. The generosity of people in this country made me feel fantastic.

There were young kids phoning in to pledge their pocket money and old people donating parts of their pension. There were also some people donating quite significant amounts of money by credit card ......

When this country gets behind something like this - it shows the world how things should be. :clap: :clap:

Well done to everyone who donated...

Originally posted by LoopyLou
Think you missed the point there hon......

dont think so by downloading it for free it denies the ethnics from benefiting i am even thinking of selling some copies with the money going to a more worthy cause

Originally posted by craigmason
dont think so by downloading it for free it denies the ethnics from benefiting i am even thinking of selling some copies with the money going to a more worthy cause

oh dear, you really are a moron arn't you, please take the cap and go sit in the corner and think about what you just said.

Originally posted by craigmason
dont think so by downloading it for free it denies the ethnics from benefiting i am even thinking of selling some copies with the money going to a more worthy cause

Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion. But I think you are more interested in getting a reaction from people and stirring up trouble. :loopy:

I know by replying I am doing just that .......but needs must

Originally posted by DanSumption
Two points: firstly, Red Nose Day gives I think 50% of money donated to charities working in the UK. Of course you can choose to go directly to one of those charities so that 100% of your money is spent in the UK, that's your choice, but you talk as if all of the money donated is spent abroad.

Secondly, a lot of third world poverty is because those countries are propping up our way of living. I don't have the time or inclination to go into all of the arguments, but a lot of their problems spring from colonial rule, plundering of their natural resources, loans given at high interest rates which benefitted the ruling classes but not the people, land being turned over to cash crops, subsidies, quotas and embargos preventing global fair trade, etc etc etc. Thankfully the current government are trying to kick up a fuss about this (one of the few good things they are doing right now) but 200 years of ill treatment by the UK and other colonial powers have gone a long way towards creating this situation, so it's only fair that we help them unmake it.

Finally, like you say there is a lot of relative poverty in the UK. In Africa, there is a lot of absolute poverty: people dying for want of food, not for want of video recorders.

All that may be true, but you omitted to mention two other major factors in all this:

The people in the areas suffering from poverty and famine are still having way more children than they can reasonably support given the conditions they live in. This only serves to compound the problem.

The extreme weather conditions in those areas (endless droughts and/or floods etc) are not exactly helpful when trying to grow crops. You can't reasonably blame Britain and our colonial past for the weather (unless you want to start on global warming?).

Originally posted by mojoworking
The people in the areas suffering from poverty and famine are still having way more children than they can reasonably support given the conditions they live in. This only serves to compound the problem.

Yeah but if i didn't have any food i know what i would do to take my mind off it!!!!

Originally posted by scottf
Yeah but if i didn't have any food i know what i would do to take my mind off it!!!!

Even if you knew for certain you wouldn't be able to feed the resulting babies? Who's the moron now? ;)

Originally posted by mojoworking
Even if you knew for certain you wouldn't be able to feed the resulting babies? Who's the moron now? ;)

twas an attempt at a joke, nothing more my friend :D

Originally posted by mojoworking
The people in the areas suffering from poverty and famine are still having way more children than they can reasonably support given the conditions they live in. This only serves to compound the problem.
They do that mainly because so many people die young, and they need to have descendents around to be able to care for them in their old age. Time after time it has been shown that if you improve the mortality rate, the birth rate will also go down. So you should definitely be giving money, as it will lead to the cut in birth rate that you're after.

The extreme weather conditions in those areas (endless droughts and/or floods etc) are not exactly helpful when trying to grow crops. You can't reasonably blame Britain and our colonial past for the weather (unless you want to start on global warming?).
I certainly can. There is an intrinsic relationship between deforestation, desertification, and drought. Africa was a far more fertile continent even as recently as 100 years ago: massive cash-crop farming and the breakdown of traditional ways of life have helped to upset the delicate environmental balace and lead to the spread of deserts. I don't know that global warming has had a huge impact yet, but I'm sure that it's beginning to.

Colonialism certainly isn't the sole cause of Africa's problems, but it is a much greater cause than most people realise.

i sat in my chair watching red day with a lump in my throat its the 1st time it as touched me this way and the 1st time ive made a donation well done to all of those who also donated it may be my 1st time but it wont be my last

Originally posted by DONNA
i sat in my chair watching red day with a lump in my throat
Me too - I was moved to tears on more than one occasion. I dunno whether it's getting older, being a parent, or what, but these things certainly have a lot more power to affect my emotions than they used to.

Originally posted by scottf
twas an attempt at a joke, nothing more my friend :D

I do realise that you were joking and my response wasn't meant to offend. It was just a sly dig at the "moron" responses you'd given to others earlier.

Originally posted by scottf
any why would you want to download it for free?

A) Its illegal
B) the charity doesn't get any money you moron.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm a Napster subscriber and I've just managed to download the Amarillo single for free.
Dont know why? But I've already sent an email to napster saying that they should be charging for the download - like they did for Band Aid - its a charity single after all.

I thought comic relief was brilliant, and certainly a few tears came to my eyes when I saw the kids in africa and what they have to go through compared to people in this country so I donated.

A couple of things annoy me though about the whole affair.

1* Ricky Gervais
Does he really have to go to NY to do a report for comic relief, maybe if he went to africa and did something over there, would be much better- without me getting ****** off at him.

2* Walkers Crisps
1p from every pack going to comic relief! -- Thats ****e.
What about 10p+ from every pack at least, going to comic relief that would be much better.

And my 3rd point-- where is all the money actually going to?
They raise what - £30m each year at least???
And how long has CR being going? 10 years +??

Why are people in africa still starving and dying then?
Surely all this money going to them would have at least sorted them out a lot better surely?

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I 2* Walkers Crisps
1p from every pack going to comic relief! -- Thats ****e.
What about 10p+ from every pack at least, going to comic relief that would be much better.

And my 3rd point-- where is all the money actually going to?
They raise what - £30m each year at least???
And how long has CR being going? 10 years +??


I totally agree with what you are saying about the walkers- it was crap only donating 1p!!

But your other point- we could have comic relief every week and still not make a MASSIVE differance- africa needs helps from the goverments- they need to wipe off there debt to them (which will be in the billions i bet) and support there growth.

All we can do its scratch the surface but even that is better than doing nothing!!!

Originally posted by ANGELUS
And my 3rd point-- where is all the money actually going to?
They raise what - £30m each year at least???
And how long has CR being going? 10 years +??

Why are people in africa still starving and dying then?
Surely all this money going to them would have at least sorted them out a lot better surely?

See my post earlier on in this thread (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=326593#post326593).

Originally posted by ANGELUS
1* Ricky Gervais
Does he really have to go to NY to do a report for comic relief, maybe if he went to africa and did something over there, would be much better- without me getting ****** off at him.
Knowing the brand of Gervais humour I'm pretty sure he was using material taken when he was already out there for all this own promo trips (ie: simpsons, pushing "The Office", etc...) as he's gotten rather popular over there from what I gather.

I can imagine the subtlty flew right over the heads of some people and got stuck in a few peoples craws but knowing Comic Reliefs policy on this sort of thing I very much doubt he was paid anything to go over there. If anything he was taking a pinch hit at people who think celebs are taking part for themselves and those celebs who do have alterior motives.


As for why nothing has been solved... well you do see some successess from the little snippets they show and if you contacted Comic Relief you can get more information on what's being done with the money... but consider for a moment that they spend money in this country too on various programs aimed at all sorts of issues like drugs, abuse, etc... and how "solved" are the problems here?

For those that want the help and who have the will to make the change, it's making a massive difference...