i've always known that look north were leeds orientated but today really took the mickey, i actually counted how many times leeds were mentioned and how many times sheffield was mentioned (sad i no) leeds was mentioned 15 times! and sheffield once!

then when it got to the sport section it was worse. i'm a big wednesday fan and i hate united but their 5 -1 loss (yes ) result wasn't mentioned once! instead they babbled on about some leeds united fan from norway for about half an hour. it really annoys me

Yes, but you do have ITV 1 Yorkshire (Calander) and you have three transmitters afaik, Calnder South, Calander East and Calander West.

So the region is split into three (as you have three transmitters - Crosspool, Emley Moor and I am not sure where the other one is. Same as Look North - it has more than one transmitter - Emley Moor (for South/West/North Yorkshire) and another transmitter for East Yorkshire, "Humber area" and Lincolnshire.

Alex

Originally posted by amhudson119
Yes, but you do have ITV 1 Yorkshire (Calander) and you have three transmitters afaik, Calnder South, Calander East and Calander North? So the region is split into three (as you have three transmitters - Crosspool, Emley Moor and I am not sure where the other one is. Same as Look North - it has more than one transmitter - Emley Moor (for South/West/North Yorkshire) and another transmitter for East Yorkshire, "Humber area" and Lincolnshire.

Alex

I live in Crosspool, 5 mins walk from the transmitter, but we get the Emley Moor transmitter - what's all that about?!

Must just be the way your aeiral is pointing.

Alex

Originally posted by bigrods
I live in Crosspool, 5 mins walk from the transmitter, but we get the Emley Moor transmitter - what's all that about?!

Someone once told me that if the signal is too strong you get white bars on your screen. Maybe thats why your not on the transmitter thats so close to your house.

Is Crosspool a transmiter or a relay?

It could just be a relay from Emily moor.

Nick's right. If that Norse nutter was a supporter of any other Yorkshire club that item wouldn't have got airtime.
Well played Burnley and well said Paul Hudson (he forecast Leeds in Div 2 as well as the weather!)

if you think thats bad north derbyshire is part of the look north region but we never have a mention its all about north yorkshire and leeds :mad: why can't they have a news bullitin from sheffield covering NORTH derbyshire and SOUTH yorkshire as i am not intersted in north yorkshire news

Originally posted by craigmason
if you think thats bad north derbyshire is part of the look north region but we never have a mention its all about north yorkshire and leeds :mad: why can't they have a news bullitin from sheffield covering NORTH derbyshire and SOUTH yorkshire as i am not intersted in north yorkshire news

Oy Mason keep your trap shut about how good life is over in gods little acre, or we will be over run with chavs.........oh sorry we already are ;)

sorry owdlad we must not promote derbyshire to the riff raff from over the boarder :hihi:

Shall we start own own little club :clap:

If they spent less time doing inane banter with that idiot Paul Hudson they might fit a bit more 'local' news in. Whats he all about??

Originally posted by Mo
Shall we start own own little club :clap:


why not if anyone lives in derbyshire come and join our group

Its always been 'Look leeds' tho hasn't it.

Originally posted by Scottandandy
Its always been 'Look leeds' tho hasn't it.

And Bradford

whats there obsession with bradford anyway- its a right ****hole.

My favourite Look North quote:

"Sheffield United - vs - Bradford: for more information see BBC Radio Leeds."

Chris. :D

this is my thought!! and does not reflect this forum...

christa's hair????

whats that all about???

a mullet with attitude....

john

Just been watching Look North and a viewer has Emailed in to Claire Frisby complaining that the Camera they have looking onto the Leeds Skyline is dissapointing and that he is so proud of his city. Claire has invited the viewers to Email her requesting which view they would like to see of Leeds and the engineers will sort it out.

So lets get Emailing her but suggesting that the camera should be in Sheffield as we are proud of our city also.

look.north@bbc.co.uk

Perhaps they could do a shot of someone being mugged/shot/burgled/car-jacked in Leeds that seems to be the first story each night ?

Just done my bit for Sheffield.
Told the tossers thatjust because they are based,(or is it biased?) in Leeds they are not to top dogs.
Will keep you posted on any replies

I have just been mentioned by Claire thanking me for my email!

Originally posted by unners
I have just been mentioned by Claire thanking me for my email!

Although she said that perhaps Barnsley should get Emailing also.(Sarcastic cow!)

I've emailed as well

Me too. I've suggested that they should have a live pic of the fountain in the peace gardens. How wonderful that would look in the summer, with people running through it occasionally. Although It would probably confuse some of the Leeds Lot as they will think it was Barcelona or something.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
Me too. I've suggested that they should have a live pic of the fountain in the peace gardens. How wonderful that would look in the summer, with people running through it occasionally. Although It would probably confuse some of the Leeds Lot as they will think it was Barcelona or something.

Good idea, provided they choose nice clean children to run thorugh the fountain, not some scruffy little urchins.

I live in Sheffield but to be honest I don't really care whether the Look North camera shows Leeds, Sheffield,Barnsley etc. The majority of people who get to see Look North live in the region anyway and already know the positive and negative sides of all the cities / towns in Yorkshire. So while we are all bickering about whether Sheffield or Leeds is top dog, many southerners would probably only be able to point us out on a map because they know we are somewhere ''up north where it's grim.'' And those of them that do think Sheffield is a run down industrial has been may not be far wrong.
If you approach Sheffield by rail from the Rotherham side of the city it is a pretty grim sight. I love the place but I'm a realist and no amount of call centres, office buildings, retail parks and fast food restaurants can come close to compensating for the industry and heritage that we have lost. The steelworks have gone, the rail marshalling yard which made sheffield one of the hubs of the north has gone and the airport has no commercial flights and has a doubtful future.
Realistically, potential investors find Leeds far preferable to Sheffield and to think otherwise is to bury your head in the sand.
On a lighter note I can't understand why anyone would want to point a camera at a polluted city / town (whether it be Leeds, Sheffield or anywhere else) when they could point it at any number of rural beauty spots that this area possesses.

Personally i don't think its as grim as you make out crossdog, everytime i come back to sheffield i see new buildings and investment and a feeling that the city is finally realising its full potential as a succussful major city.

I've also emailed look north.

Originally posted by Crossdog
On a lighter note I can't understand why anyone would want to point a camera at a polluted city / town (whether it be Leeds, Sheffield or anywhere else) when they could point it at any number of rural beauty spots that this area possesses.

Because in the country everyone would object to the BBC erecting a metal pole with a camera on top.

I don't think the BBC erect the cameras, I think they use cameras already stationed. So, no they probably wouldn't show any nice rural shots.

I understood the camera would be to give a very brief view over the city to show what the weather was like. But once the site of the camera was discovered there'd be the usual bunch of mindless nitwits waving at it :clap:

Aren't there enough CCTV cameras in town ? Is there a street where you can't be seen by some berk sat scoffing his packin' up, or pickin' his nose and rolling bogies in front of a video monitor ?

Sheesh !

Having said that, I'm sure they could pre-record a bit of nice countryside...

just done my bit - i wonder how many emails they get -

Look Leeds indeed mate.

Glad someone feels the same as me,

"Tonights headlines... a man with a sainsburys carrier bag is seen outside Elland Road!"

Now over to Darren for the weather...

another e-mail sent, i tried to be nice but its hard

I just sent an email to suggest Sheffield to cos Look North really pees me off.:clap:

Originally posted by jazz
Personally i don't think its as grim as you make out crossdog, everytime i come back to sheffield i see new buildings and investment and a feeling that the city is finally realising its full potential as a succussful major city.

Why don't you stay here instead of just visiting if you think it's that good.

'cos i live away at university!

I'd like to defend southerners at this point. We do not have difficulty pointing to yorkshire on a map. Many of us move up north where the people are (for the most part) nice and friendly. However I still think Leeds is ****e and is over-represented in the media, both televsion and newspapers (e.g. Metro: Leeds). Don't see the appeal.

Be sure to slip in "Sheffield Forum" in to your e-mails :clap:

I heard them mention all the e-mails they had from people in "Sheff..err... Shaff... err... that steel making town south of Leeds". ;)

I sent one too...

Originally posted by nick2
Perhaps they could do a shot of someone being mugged/shot/burgled/car-jacked in Leeds that seems to be the first story each night ?

mavis try and be possitive:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Can we all email and ask them to get rid of that annoying and patronising Christa Ackroyd !

Originally posted by mega_monty
Can we all email and ask them to get rid of that annoying and patronising Christa Ackroyd !

noooooooooooo christa is a top lass i like her:clap: :clap: :clap:

Yeea!:thumbsup:

I got a name check by Clare yesterday morning on Look North, and an email from her, thanking me for my email and stating that the campaign was growing for a Sheffield city scene and she will keep me posted!

I had this email back from Clare:

Great response! Thanks for your e-mail too! The campaign is growing ...keep the e-mail's coming - we'll get one yet in Sheffield! Keep watching Breakfast!
Clare

Strange email really.... Considering my email to her ;)

Just sent my email off, proposing that it has a different view on every day ;) NOT just Leeds :thumbsup:

Also slipped SF in there, obviously ;)

Originally posted by ncrossland
Because in the country everyone would object to the BBC erecting a metal pole with a camera on top. That's why they have country file! They take the cameras home afterwards!

Originally posted by Geoff
Be sure to slip in "Sheffield Forum" in to your e-mails :clap:

I heard them mention all the e-mails they had from people in "Sheff..err... Shaff... err... that steel making town south of Leeds". ;) If we mention Sheffield Forum, Geoff, you'll have to tidy this thread up a bit!!:D

i think this shows just how strong this forum is. Its potentially a very strong pressure group for sheffield, which is just what the city needs. Keep emailing!

the program is true to its name it looks north.....of sheffield,rotherham,barnsley,doncaster!!!

To be fair they have to place the camera somewhere. It then would make sense to place it in the same city as where the studios are?
I can only suggest they show different cameras every morning from the main cities in the region??
Lets not forget Doncaster, Rotherham, Barnsley and Chesterfield.

I was bored so decided to send an e-mail as well suggesting other views rather than just Leeds. I don't watch a great deal of Look North or Calendar as far too much of their proggrammes seem to be taken up with some 'human interest' story and so the actual news section is made far too small.

I got an email from Claire today :D

Although I was asleep (as I am most monday mornings ;P) she apparently had it changed to Bradford.

Originally posted by RPG
I got an email from Claire today :D

Although I was asleep (as I am most monday mornings ;P) she apparently had it changed to Bradford.

In other words: as close as possible to Leeds, without actually being Leeds :rolleyes:

Still, a move in the right direction.

We (the people of Sheffield) got another mention this morning. They said their chief engineer was working on it...

Power to the people :heyhey:

Thanks for your e-mail - I'm getting a great response - the campaign is growing for a Sheffield weather cam for breakfast ...oh yes! We'll get one yet!
Keep watching - I'll keep you posted!

Clare

Breakfast & Lunchtime Presenter
Senior Production Journalist
0113-2441188

just got this, its the same one to everybody

Why is it that Look North and Calender think that the only city in Yorkshire is Leeds???.They hardly ever mention Sheffield unless its to put us down or slag us off,this is supposed to be a "LOCAL" programme but you only ever hear of Leeds or Bradford or its surrounding areas.
Correct me if im wrong but isnt Sheffield the largest city in yorkshire???
This all started wen Sheffield Wednesday won the Rumbelows cup and Yorkshire t.v in their wisdom decided to cut off Wednesday recieving the cup and celebrating and instead showed an episode of Monster Trucks!!!
Imagine if Leeds United had won,it would have been an all night tribute to them.

Originally posted by briggy1967
Why is it that Look North and Calender think that the only city in Yorkshire is Leeds???.

That's not strictly true. Sometimes they mention Harrogate when the flower show is on.

.... and Bradford.

Sometimes even Look North is can be guilty too, thats why I call it "Look Leeds" lol

Has Christa had some Leslie Ash-style lip enhancement done? She's gone very pouty. Or maybe she's got "sulky Leedsness".

Just look at the weather maps, it seems as though there's a conspiracy to deny the very existence of our fair city!

its the same on traffic reports on the little calander/look north in the morning - never really hear about our traffic issues all leeds leeds leeds:rant:

Look North is made in Leeds, and they don't like to travel I think. They just look out the window and see if there's anything happening :)

Any coverage of the high burglary rate in Leeds I wonder?

To be fair to Calendar they did respond to such complaints by setting up Calendar South, where they go to their Sheffield studio for part of the program.

Sheffields meant to be the fourth biggest City in England, behind London, Birmingham and Manchester, so it would be the biggest in Yorkshire.

Can't remember where I heard it, but about a year ago York was voted the best University in the country, but somehow Leeds got best University in Yorkshire. - No idea how they worked that gem out!

Sheffield, the 4th largest city in England, with a small airport that doesnt work (it relies upon large towns in the vicinity for its air links), lots of potholes (the Parkway is just a start), a failed national museum (which is now a drinking establishment), a rail link which is essentially a spur off a main line (also serving smaller and larger towns in the vicinity), oh and the non-existance of nill-featured weather reports on both local and national weather forecasts! We never have weather, we just have a thick white line in our sky splitting North to South, East to West.

Other than that, its an alright place really. Some great caves and the provision of electricity last year has done wonders for the local nightlife scene!

Calender South the cutting edge of City Life located in the heart of the city's busstleing cosmopolitan area next door to an indian, a photo frame shop and an NCP!

I don't watch any tv and everytime I see Calendar in a background there always seems to be a fluffy pet on

The fluffy pet thing seems to be a national pheonomenom (sp?) for local news stations.

Usually its a puppy who tackled an armed group of muggers, or a horse that saved its owner from an oncoming train, something like that!

Originally posted by briggy1967
Imagine if Leeds United had won,it would have been an all night tribute to them.

Look on the bright side, there's not much chance of Leeds United winning anything in the near future!

The thing that winds me up most on the telly, the Look Leeds plonkas and the other lot. If and when they mention anything that happened below the M62 its shallow and brief.

lets start the 2005 petition for...

LOOK SHEFFIELD.....

there's many a disasterously fluffy poodle just crying to rescue a trapped cat from an oncoming UFO out in the city suburbs of a breezy spring evening to be accompanied by a howling gorilla which was reportedly escaped from a proposed new zoo in chesterfield (although planning applications have yet to be submitted).

OUR SMALL INCONSPICUOUS CITY NEEDS INCONSPICUOUS BREAKING NEWS STORIES LIKE THIS

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22627

Check out this Thread.Not sure if they ever got a sheffield camera up or not?

suppose its in the name really, the gits are asking us to 'Look North' - most likely towards Leeds... :rolleyes:

Look North and Calender? Why worry, they're duplicate half-hour fill-ins, with the avuncular Duncan traipsing round some fish market in Leeds (naturally) or that pleb doing the weather with his grotesque ties. It's not just his fashion that he gets totally wrong.

There's no real news on there, unless Costcutter have put their Christmas trimmings up in Pudsey, or Leeds United are trying out a new turf nutritient on their pitch.

Meanwhile, the Queen and President Bush have been to Sheffield, Abba have sensationally reformed for a one-off concert at the Sheffield Arena and Sheffield United have won the European Cup.

Okay, so I may be over-egging the pudding on that last one, but you'll certainly not find any mention of it on these two dire, predicatable slabs of wall-paper television.

I totally agree, all we get is news from North Lincolnshire ('Scunny', 'Grimsby') and Leeds! We should be banded together with Rotherham and Barnsley etc and have our own show!

they should do a calendar/look north from sheffield as we never have any local news stories its always leeds and north yourkshire which i am not intersted in i want local stories :rant: :rant: :rant: not stories from north yorkshire and leeds :rant: :rant: :rant:

Dont forget to tune in tonight folks for a thrilling update about the non smoker who has been accused of littering in a street in Scunthorpe!! Any body know what happened in Sheffield today? no? me neither.

Whenever I go on holiday and say I am from Sheffield they always say 'isn't that near Leeds' like we are some sort of town just outside of Leeds. we are the 4th largest city god dammit!!

i put look leeds to the test at 6.30am today not one mention of sheffield or south yorkshire twits

has anyone noticed that if theres any football news be it wednesday or united they always manage to get leeds into the subject

can anyone remeber john helm on calander ? what a clown:)

Both of the so called news programs seem to waste time on dull not particularily news worthy stories which I find annoying. Calendar is better than Look North purely because for four or five minutes it splits to various regional Calendars so we might get a brief mention.
I have actually gone to the trouble of sending e-mails to both programs pointing out my feelings, maybe if more people in Sheffield complained we'd see some action on the subject.

But is there enough Sheffield news to report? The last few Star newspapers I've seen have been dire.

Originally posted by alchresearch
But is there enough Sheffield news to report? The last few Star newspapers I've seen have been dire.

Yes, Badly parked bin on pavement blocking car!

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31780&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

Look Leeds, er sorry, Look North started with a South Yorkshire crime story tonight, had other SY stories and finished with an interview with Tony Christie - things are starting to improve.

Is it just me that really sick of hearin about leeds leeds leeds every single day ? Do you think if the studio was in sheffield it would be different ?

try calendar, great if you get the local version with news from sheffield :)

Couldn't agree more, always Leeds this, Dewsbury that - i've given up with local news. Stick to the Star instead!

This has been mentioned before and i believe Look North had several e-mails from Sheffield Forum members asking for a better coverage of the area. I don't tend to bother with Look North as I've no real interest in hearing local news for leeds and have also gone as far as to grumble to Calendar. I get the one that has a small segment of the program broadcast from the Calendar south newsroom and would much prefer it if this small segment was extended and all the trashy human interest stories binned.

i like the trashy human interest stories, wallbuilder!

ten minutes of news from sheffield is enough for me, then get back to the skateboarding ducks :)

Originally posted by WallBuilder
This has been mentioned before and i believe Look North had several e-mails from Sheffield Forum members asking for a better coverage of the area. I don't tend to bother with Look North as I've no real interest in hearing local news for leeds and have also gone as far as to grumble to Calendar. I get the one that has a small segment of the program broadcast from the Calendar south newsroom and would much prefer it if this small segment was extended and all the trashy human interest stories binned.

It's because of the opt-out you get - there are South (from Crosspool relay), West from Emley Moor and East from Belmont (the Lincolnshire output). The opt-outs (this is where a part of the news goes to your specific area as opposed to generic Yorkshire) are supposed to talley up with the four parts of your county - however most of North Yorkshire - editorially and coverage wise receives ITV1 Tyne Tees!

ITV1 Yorkshire's site (the news area of it), is a bit thin, however BBC SY is reasonable - I find BBCi good for your part of the world.

This is semi-similar to us - originally the Blue Bell Hill TX transmitted Thames (prior to Carlton [London]), but in 1982, it switched to Meridian being broadcast from there, thus giving many thousands of peoplepeople in northern Kent (Greater London) the wrong ITV region! :R
:)

I was very annoyed at Calender this evening - had a report on about a 'Silent killer' that affects women, who not only have breast cancer etc to worry about!

This silent woman killer?

COPD
(Chronic Obstuctive Pulmonary Disease)
Duff Lungs...

:mad: Yes it kills men too, any many more of them because men have traditionally worked in industry such as mining & steel manufacturing :rant:

Bloody media W8nkers

I love the way we call it "Look Leeds" on the forum!:hihi:

As for Christa?

Well....

originally posted by miniminch

I tell you who I’d love to slap – Christa Ackroyd or anyone else that works for a regional news programme. What utter arse! I hardly ever watch TV as I usually end up hurling it at a passing car but on the one rare occasion I tuned in I was greeted by the calendar ‘Richard whitely mourning special.’ Now I’ve kept quiet about this ( respect for the dead and all that) However I was confronted with Ackroyd dress in black with a face like a bedraggled cock holding back the tears for the no-talent, tea-time quiz presenter as if we’d just lost Jesus!
I mean talk about over doing it. And I can’t remember her making such an effort when the pope died; when half the western world went into mourning. (Although, to be fair, I wore a clown’s outfit for that occasion)
I also imagine her to be really humourless and stupid.
I hate the way she gives the answer to the question in the question and the way she patronises the token commoner she has on.
CA: so tell me about the brave way you saved your little sister from the chip pan fire.
Commoner: err – I was brave and rescued my sister from a chip pan fire.
CA: The moving story of a very brave little boy there.

Christa looks into camera looking like a ball-less scrotum and the audience notices the fires of a living hell burning deep within the blacks of her eyes

From... Who has the most slappable face in entertainmnet? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46532&perpage=15&highlight=slappable&pagenumber=1)

Originally posted by Deavon
I love the way we call it "Look Leeds" on the forum!:hihi:

As for Christa?

Well....



From... Who has the most slappable face in entertainmnet? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46532&perpage=15&highlight=slappable&pagenumber=1)

how eloquently yet profoundly put!:hihi:

Its always seems like it they say leeds leeds leeds then oh and did you know sheffield is the cheapest place to buy heroin ? There was very little coverage on us winning entre floral aswell, it annoys me that if we have something better than leeds has, for example being the greenest city it isnt mentioned enough and i hete it when they say leeds is the biggest city in yorkshire, they'll probably re-name it leedshire next you wait

Haven't watched either of them for ages, but I thought little Gaynor Barnes was quite cute, for what it's worth.

Maybe it's just me.

The only thing worth looking at on Look North is Lisa Gallagher the weather girl.
mmmmmm

Who's your favourite weather man or girl ?
cheers

Originally posted by Jack_Russell
The only thing worth looking at on Look North is Lisa Gallagher the weather girl.
mmmmmm

I'll second that ! Biography here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/looknorthyorkslincs/lisa.shtml

:heyhey:

-----------

by the way - that Christa woman REALLY annoys me !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/looknorthyorkslincs/presenters.shtml

Look North = Look Leeds
IMHO
Lets rename this the "Look Leeds" thread

Y'know that Leeds is the BBC capital of Yorkshire...

I can't stand either Calendar or Look North! Have you noticed, when they are scraping the barrel for stories, they get some idiot on because he built a brick wall in 10 mins or something??? :suspect:

It was nice seeing the peace gardens on GMTV this morning.

Unfortunately I no longer live in Sheffield and miss it terribly, so to keep in touch with the happenings I installed Sky just so I could watch Look North. Wish I hadn't bothered, not one mention of Sheffield last night (well a quick mention to the Blades, who deserve much longer being spent on them than the Bradford Bulls).

I wouldn't mind but I know for a fact that there was a murder on Friday night.

Please complain.

Thank you

Even on a lighter note, Sheffield winning the Entente Florale rated 6 seconds and a glimpse of the floral figures outside the Town Hall. Now if Leeds had won it....!
And when Leeds played Hull in Cardiff there were extensive interviews with Leeds fans but not a single one with any fans from Hull. Perhaps the Beeb haven't cottoned that Hull is in Yorkshire too? Still it made it all the sweeter when Hull won, not that it rated much of a mention on Look North the next day.

Originally posted by algy
Perhaps the Beeb haven't cottoned that Hull is in Yorkshire too? Still it made it all the sweeter when Hull won, not that it rated much of a mention on Look North the next day.

It probably was covered in detail on the Hull edition of Look North - those lucky people in the East no longer have to share with Leeds.

The city the size of us and every night we get the P*ss taken out of us.

I remeber when we went on strike ( ex bus driver ) for 3 weeks and I think we got around 2 mins on the story on the first day of action and that was it.

I wonder if the BBC has a e-mail address for complaints?
However the Clowns at Yorkshire Television are much worse!

I agree wholeheartedly.
Leeds it is.
And while we are on the subject...Why is "The Big Issue in the North" sold ubiquitously in Sheffield and yet features Manchester, Leeds and Liverpool inside.
What do we have to do to be noticed?

I have sent so many complaints I'm surprised that I don't get my own slot on Look North's complaint section. In fact come to think of it I have never even received a response from them, not only is that damn rude but also shows how little regard they have for us folk from South Yorkshire.

Anyway below is the page from which you can complain, bombard them so they cannot ignore us any longer.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/looknorthyorkslincs/

Originally posted by lidz
I have sent so many complaints I'm surprised that I don't get my own slot on Look North's complaint section. In fact come to think of it I have never even received a response from them, not only is that damn rude but also shows how little regard they have for us folk from South Yorkshire.

Anyway below is the page from which you can complain, bombard them so they cannot ignore us any longer.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/looknorthyorkslincs/

I just gone to Google and found Yorkshire TV (Leeds ITV ) site, just sent them a nice complaint about why we have a shoe box as a studio in Sheffield & the lack of coverage in S/Yorks etc etc

how many people use SF ? Its between 10-15000 isnt it ? If we all sent the bbc an email complaining to them to improve their news coverage im sure they'ddo something, if we all sent one everday for a week it might make some progress. And if they dont we just email them everyday lol 15000 a day imagine ? woohoo we should do it

Originally posted by Greybeard
I understood the camera would be to give a very brief view over the city to show what the weather was like. But once the site of the camera was discovered there'd be the usual bunch of mindless nitwits waving at it :clap:

Aren't there enough CCTV cameras in town ? Is there a street where you can't be seen by some berk sat scoffing his packin' up, or pickin' his nose and rolling bogies in front of a video monitor ?

Sheesh !

We have one on top of our building that is used fo rintranet (dont ask why)

Why doesnt look north do what Calender has and have a split section where can go to the different areas for more regional news

I intend on sending at least one complaint each day about the previous days programme. You never know they may get so sick of me they offer me a job as correspondent for South Yorkshire.

I've got more personality and would look better than Christa Ackroyd anyway.l

Hi,
Just had a few minutes to spare and so sent Look North an e-mail with a little grumble and have pointedly asked for a reply so we'll have to wait and see what happens.
The SF is a better source of local news than the 'news' program Look North

"Is Crosspool a transmiter or a relay?"

Relay of Emley Moor broadcasting the southern output of Calendar - Emley Moor itself has Calandar West, Belmont covers Lincolnshire and the East Riding (Calandar East), and North Yorkshire's main provider is Tyne Tees.

There are three versions of BBC North (similar to YTV's three sub-regions) - they are:

- BBC North - North East & Cumbria (ITV equiv. : Tyne Tees)
- BBC North - East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire (ITV equiv. : Cent/Yorks [East].)

- BBC North - West/South Yorkshire.

The other day I noted down the location of each news story on Look North. Here are the results:

Leeds
Thorne (Doncaster)
West Bretton (Huddersfield)
Dewsbury
Wakefield
Bradford/Wakefield
Bradford
Leyburn (North Yorkshire)
Bingley

That was just a one-off, but it doesn't strike me as Leeds centric - or am I missing something? I suppose when they are presenting 'the news' then it will depend where the news stories emerge as to the locations mentioned and this will vary day by day.

You will probably find people in Leeds think Look North is Sheffield centric...?

Originally posted by Hels
The other day I noted down the location of each news story on Look North. Here are the results:

Leeds
Thorne (Doncaster)
West Bretton (Huddersfield)
Dewsbury
Wakefield
Bradford/Wakefield
Bradford
Leyburn (North Yorkshire)
Bingley


They're all North Yorkshire though, aren't they?

Are Look North reporters too lazy to drive down the M1 or summat?

No they are not all North Yorkshire! The majority are West Yorkshire and some are South Yorkshire.

Ignoring Doncaster (as most Sheffielders do):

Leeds
West Bretton (Huddersfield)
Dewsbury
Wakefield
Bradford/Wakefield
Bradford
Leyburn (North Yorkshire)
Bingley

Leeds / Bradford / Wakefield / Hudderfield are practically one and the same.

Dewsbury & Bingley? How on earth did they make the news :?

It's laziness on the part of Look North reporters :|

It should be renamed 'Look, North Yorkshire'

Oh Abdul, hun! You could upset so many people!

Wakefield is a city in its own right, so is Leeds, so is Bradford.

Huddersfield is fiercely independent and Dewsbury (well, what can we say about Dewsbury)?

But no, you can't just lump them all together, they are as independant from Leeds as much as (if not more so) than Sheffield is.

Hels

You are seriously missing the point!

The fact of the matter is Look North should be depicting are fair and unbiased view on the whole of Yorkshire. Unfortunately they seem to forget that South Yorkshire exists.

Yet again last night little to no mention of anywhere in South Yorks, although they will claim the reason is tonights episode will be focusing on Michael Vaughan and his tribute in Sheffield. Did anyone notice though how Harry had to make the point that Michael was not born in Sheffield, heaven forbid a great sportman comes from somewhere other than Leeds or Bradford!

I seriously am considering applying for a job as Christa's replacement, never have I seen such a bland person on television.

Originally posted by lidz

I seriously am considering applying for a job as Christa's replacement, never have I seen such a bland person on television.
Ah yes Lidz, but could you match the chic dress style and fantastic hairdo's?:thumbsup:

Algy

Haven't quite got the big (never quite made it out of the 80s) hair, the cheesy grin or the footballers wives false nails, but I could always get a makeover.

Originally posted by lidz
Hels

You are seriously missing the point!

The fact of the matter is Look North should be depicting are fair and unbiased view on the whole of Yorkshire. Unfortunately they seem to forget that South Yorkshire exists

Thanks for your words of support, Lidz, that's exactly what I feel :)

Originally posted by lidz
I seriously am considering applying for a job as Christa's replacement, never have I seen such a bland person on television.

Go get 'em, tiger :clap:


Originally posted by Hels
Oh Abdul, hun! You could upset so many people!

Boo hoo :roll: Look North has gotten away with this for far too long :mad:

Originally posted by Hels
Wakefield is a city in its own right, so is Leeds, so is Bradford.

Wakefield is a town, whose only claim to fame is that it's just down the road from Leeds. And Bradford and Leeds are so physically close together that all Yorkshiremen now have to put up with constant stereotypes about inbreeding :loopy:

Originally posted by Hels
Huddersfield is fiercely independent...

Then I strongly suggest to Huddersfield that she relocates herself a little further down the M62 than just a single junction. See above about the stereotypes ;)

Originally posted by Hels
and Dewsbury (well, what can we say about Dewsbury)?

And Dewsbury's only claim to fame is that I've visited it a few times :P

Originally posted by Hels
But no, you can't just lump them all together, they are as independant from Leeds as much as (if not more so) than Sheffield is.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury; there are my facts, now draw your own conclusions :D

The following may seem a little long winded but this has now infuriated me. As the email address is in the public demain I don't see that there is any problem in me publishing it (I apologise if there is) but please email this jumped up little West Yorkshire man.


I am aware that the story was run thoroughout your breakfast programmes, however the bias towards
West Yorkshire is apparent throughout every evening show. Last night for example you would have thought that Bradford were the only football team in Yorkshire - other teams played.

I realised last night that you would use Michael Vaughan's deserved tribute as justification for not faeturing South Yorkshire last night. Unfortunately I watch Look North every night of the week and can safely say that out of every 10 stories I would be lucky if one was about South Yorkshire. As for your comments about West Yorkshire having the highest density in population, as far as I am aware Sheffield is the fourth biggest city in England and this does make your argument rather weak.

I think if you were to ask your viewers in South Yorkshire whether they felt a bias towards West and North Yorkshire, you would find a great many did.

I am fully aware that this evenings programme will feature Sheffield prominently, but still feel that there is a case to be answered with regard your coverage of Yorkshire.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Keown [mailto:gary.keown@bbc.co.uk]
Sent: 21 September 2005 13:14
Subject: FW: Look Leeds


Thank you for your e-mail. We ran the story that a man had been charged in connection with this murder all through our Breakfast bulletins and on the 1.30 lunchtime news.

In order to make sure the 6.30 is not too crime heavy in terms of story content, it was not run at 6.30. It was also nearly 24 hours since the man was charged at this point and it had been covered extensively earlier in the day. Due to the laws of subjudice, we are not allowed to cover such stories in depth or give too much detail once somone has been charged and the case is active.

There is not a bias towards Leeds. It is a fact however that West Yorkshire has the highest density of population in our regioin and therefore there tends to be more stories from here. We do have a team of people based in Sheffield and aim to get around the patch everyday.

Tonight for example around half the programme is dedicated to coverage in South Yorkshire including a major live element to reflect the civic reception for Michael Vaughan.

Gary Keown
Editor
Look North


-----Original Message-----
Sent: 20 September 2005 13:40
To: Leeds Look North
Subject: FW: Look Leeds





-----Original Message-----
Sent: 20 September 2005 13:36
To: 'jake.fowler@bbc.co.uk'
Subject: Look Leeds

I live in Kent but am originally from Sheffield. I have installed Sky so that I can keep abreast of news from our region. I now wish I had not bothered, as there is such a bias towards Leeds and North Yorkshire.

Once again, last night I watched the entire programme hoping to hear about the murder that took place on my sister’s road in Sheffield last Friday - unfortunately I was not surprised to see that it got no mention at all.

If you have a lack of reporters in the South Yorkshire region then I would be willing to return to Sheffield to fill a vacancy. As the BBC is supposed to be un-biased I would suggest that the programme editors take a close look at the contents of each broadcast to ensure an altogether fairer depiction of Yorkshire.

I look forward to hearing from you with you response.

I got a response as well

Thank you for your e-mail. We aim to get around the patch everyday and have a team based at our office in Sheffield to provide news from South Yorkshire. West Yorkshire, to include other areas like Bradfod, Huddersielf and Halifax for example is the largest area of populatioin in our transmission area and as a result there will tend to be more stories from here.

We do try to make sure all parts get a fair crack of the whip however. Tonight for example the bulk of our programme is coming live from Sheffield to cover the Michael Vaughan story

He seems to of missed the point that I'd like to hear news stories from Sheffield and not just some over hyped sport personality guff. So I'm sorry but I stil think it is too West yorkshire orientated.

A few years ago there was an idea for Sheffield to have it's own Cable tv station which seemed like it could have been a good idea.

Even though most of the prgram does tend to be about Leeds it tends to be about a shooting in Leeds, a murder in Leeds, an arson attacks in Leeds, or some other such criminal related news. Most programs start of "Tonight, police in Leeds........"

Yes they are biased to Leeds but they hardly paint a pretty picture of the place.

Did anyone notice what was in the background during the town hall balcony BBC interview with Michael "people did know who I was 4 months ago" Vaughan?

A huge yellow "LEEDS" sign from the Leeds Building Society building.

Sigh.

YES imho they are FAR too Leeds focused and always have been and probably always will be. God knows why tho ?:0S

Gary Keown, if I recall, was BBC Radio Sheffield's editor. I see he has been promoted to Look North and has suffered some kind of amnesia on the journey up the M1.

When the BBC launched its local websites back in 2001/2002 I noticed that Sheffield was lumped in with South Yorkshire (***.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire) but cities such as Leeds and Manchester had dedicated sites alongside their respective county-based websites (***.bbc.co.uk/leeds & ***.bbc.co.uk/westyorkshire). When I queried this, I was told that South Yorkshire is a big region and it would be unfair to exclude it solely to concentrate on Sheffield alone; a typically dismissive and patronising BBC response and one that misses the point that Sheffield is big enough to justify its own standalone website.

I wouldn't hold your breath Lidz; I've long felt that Sheffield is a stealth city and I can't see that changing anytime soon.

Originally posted by carcrash
A few years ago there was an idea for Sheffield to have it's own Cable tv station which seemed like it could have been a good idea.

Could we have Sheffield TV on freeview?

In this age of all-important viewing figures, the best way in my opinion to get your point across to Look Leeds and Calendar is to simply switch off your TV when they are on.
Join me brothers and sisters! ;)

ok so i know its not look north but did anyone watch Calender last night ?

The bit when that blonde women reads some stories that are apparently from our region was on said :-

Championship leaders leeds united..........shortly followed by.......are ONLY 6 points behind yorkshire rivals Sheffield United lol

If it was the other way around and leeds were infront it would be.... Sheffield United are a massive 6 points behind !

Do we all agree ?

Yeah they've been doing that a lot over the past few weeks it's been only 12 points, 10 points etc. Especially enjoyed recent episodes of Look Leeds...sorry North showing Ex Leeds Goalkeeper Gary Sprake and his autobiography, A look back at Leeds unbeaten start at the beginning of the 1973 season (what the relevance of that was i don't know/can't remember).

Also like the way they bring up Leeds band Kaiser Chiefs and Yorkshire's Arctic Monkeys. Expect to hear a lot about Leeds singer Corrine Bailey Rae over the next few weeks. Oh and does anyone else get fed up with that pout that Christa Ackroyd keeps doing.

I totally agree, i am a bit fed up about hearing Leeds' news when i live in Sheffield!

Maybe it is because Look North is filmed in Leeds?

Wakefield is a town, whose only claim to fame is that it's just down the road from Leeds. And Bradford and Leeds are so physically close together that all Yorkshiremen now have to put up with constant stereotypes about inbreeding :loopy:



This isn't true, Abdul. I'm being pedantic now, but Wakefield is a city. The six cities in Yorkshire with date of royal charter are:

York (time immemorial)
Ripon (1836)
Wakefield (1888 )
Sheffield (1893)
Leeds (1893)
Bradford (1897)
Hull (1897)

More on topic, Look North is certainly biased, but it's because the BBC is based there. People in Doncaster and Barnsley moan about their local BBC radio station - Radio Sheffield - being too Sheffield oriented.

Hull isn't in Yorkshire. since the devolution of humberside (for shame), the new authorites are:
Hull (on its own, not in any county, expelled from being associated from anywhere else, probably cos it keeps topping all those worst places to live polls)
North Lincolnshire (scunthorpe etc) - which is not IN Lincolnshire
North East Lincs (Grimsby, Cleethorpes etc) - also not in lincolnshire - and NELC is so awful that all the moaning minnies who wanted Humberside devolved so they could 'go back to lincolnshire' must regret it. Instead of going 'back' they got the worst local authority in the country, alongside Hull. Well done.
The East Riding (Beverley etc) - Debatable whether this is Yorkshire or not.

And as for Look North and Calendar, I preferred it when all the news from the Humberside (former) regions were with Yorkshire, cos being from that neck of the woods and living in this one it used to be quite handy getting it all together. Thankfully ceefax still operates this way...

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And as for Look North and Calendar, I preferred it when all the news from the Humberside (former) regions were with Yorkshire, cos being from that neck of the woods and living in this one it used to be quite handy getting it all together. Thankfully ceefax still operates this way...

On Digital Satellite, you can watch the BBC East Yorks./NE Lincs., as well as the other Yorkshire region (Calendar East - covering N. Norfolk, and the strip up Lincolnshire up to E. Yorks.) - although, to gain the other ITVs, a bit of techy Sky menu fiddling's needed.

:P

Ooooh look, Bradford has its own section...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/

Maybe this should be pointed out to the BBC?

Hull isn't in Yorkshire. since the devolution of humberside (for shame), the new authorites are:
Hull (on its own, not in any county, expelled from being associated from anywhere else, probably cos it keeps topping all those worst places to live polls)
North Lincolnshire (scunthorpe etc) - which is not IN Lincolnshire
North East Lincs (Grimsby, Cleethorpes etc) - also not in lincolnshire - and NELC is so awful that all the moaning minnies who wanted Humberside devolved so they could 'go back to lincolnshire' must regret it. Instead of going 'back' they got the worst local authority in the country, alongside Hull. Well done.
The East Riding (Beverley etc) - Debatable whether this is Yorkshire or not.



Hull is Yorkshire. Local authorities have nothing to do with historic and ceremonial counties. You were obviously never in Hull when the ghastly Humberside existed. Humberside was never accepted, that's why it was abolished. If your argumentation holds true, then Sheffield is not in Yorkshire because there has been no County of South Yorkshire since 1986. Sheffield remains Yorkshire however, historically the West Riding.


And it's not debatable whether the East Riding of Yorkshire is Yorkshire. The name says it all.

I'm from Humberside. Born and bred. Therefore I have no acknowledgment of Humberside bits being part of Lincolnshire or Yorkshire, because to me, they aren't. Humberside was where I was born and that was all I knew until they devolved it. And whilst the north bank might want to be from Yorkshire, who wants to be from Lincolnshire??????

Just as to the kids born now probably won't associate the bits that used to be Humberside as being part of any county. The bits that used to be in Yorkshire and Lincs aren't in them anymore. They left and they aren't really back, no matter what name they give themselves, cos they have new authorities. And because a lot of Humberside services etc still exist. (ANd if you want to argue there is no such thing as Yorkshire, you would probably have a fair point)

Humberside had its flaws but it was still a lot better than the current set-up they have. Well, better than Hull council and NELC, I don't know enough about NL and ER to comment on them. I worked for Humberisde County COuncil for a couple of years and then for NELC after the changes, and NELC were far worse, they've done nothing but destroy Grimsby and Cleethorpes' public services. Humberside may have been biased towards the north but the south was still better off before devolution. I was TOTALLY against the abolotion of Humberside.

Ok, so now I've left that neck of the woods its a bit immaterial.

And I know you can watch the 'Humberside' Look North on Sky but it was better when it was all integrated. Even though it was still all about Leeds

PS The BBc still believes in Humberside (ish) - their local site for Hull, Gy etc is http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber

Look North also seems to have a Hull bias as well as Leeds IMO.

Meh, it's not like anybody of any importance comes from Hull apart from maybe John "2 Jags" Prescott the Deputy PM.