Hello all,
I have stopped smoking weed, I have smoked for 20 years (weed) and im just wondering if anyone can tell what the withdraw sytoms are?, so I have an idea what im in store for, I have children now and dont want to be wasteing my money on anything else but my kids.
Any advise is welcome.

Cheers,
Jay.:help: :gag:

I'm not an expert but I understand the side effects to include irritability, sleep disruption, anxiety, appetite loss and sweats.

Have you contacted someone like teh Rockingham Project?

http://www.shef.ac.uk/drugs/sources/rock/rdp.htm

Good Luck!

Joe

Thanks joe,
For your advice I will go it alone until i feel I cant manage it I just wanted to know what to expect, it makes it easier when you know whats infront.
Thanks again :D,
Jay

Just stick it out for a few days and you'll be fine. Mucks up your sleep patterns for a few days i.e. it's hard to get to sleep but after a few days (usually 3) you'll be back to normal. You'll probably notice you dream a lot more as well. In the past I've found it's the 2nd day off it that's the worse - having a drink helps just try not to turn into an alco, lol :)

I quit for about 4/5 months a couple of years and felt really good about it after I had got over first few days, I was running about like a headless chicken :D

LOL

Hi Jaye, I'm Jaye *wonders what the hell is going on* LOL

okay, I think the worst thing that you are going to be addicted to is the nicotine which is bad - but the good thing is that once you have been clear for 3 days it's all psychological after that. Treat the habit as if you are smoking cigs and think of how much money you can spend on your kids and have so much more time with them - by not smoking eg. when I quit I spent my time sitting on the balcony puffing away - so that time was not spent doing things with the kids, so whether it is making something in the kitchen or doing spellings with them - it doesn't really matter, just as long as you are not on the balcony.

I also found helpful is at the end of the week I bought something nice for myself - usually it was a CD (they do really cheap ones in Music Zone on the Moor)

Oh I went cold turkey.... and it hasn't worked I was free from it for about 5 months - I would suggest some sort of patches from the doctor because he/she will be able to point you in the right direction for free cession classes where there would be a possibility of free patches (but you would need to check that out with them).

I know what you must be feeling at the moment with it and you must be strong and I'm here for you if you wanna chat :)

Hello all,
I am finding it a little hard and I am really greatful for your suggestions I will try them all, Moonfire I will keep you to the last sentence of the thread thankyou so very much for that, I have an appointment at the doc's to see a nurse this friday so hopefully I will get patches to help the nicotine craving.
Well done Moonfire you have done well to stop as im going to do too:thumbsup:
Thankyou,
Jay.

Dreaming. Lots and lots and lots of dreaming.. Did I mention you dream more? Getting to sleep can also be a problem, Valerian can help, beer also!
You may also find that watching crap TV becomes tedious where as before it was a perfectly acceptable occupation! I guess having kids means you did not slocuh about as much as you used to anyway so you may not suffer from the having too much energy problem!
Stick with it, you will feel better.. Once you start sleeping again!

well good luck :D :D :D

Patches - OK, but I found gum (nicorette) helped as it gave me something to do with my mouth!

Green tea at regular intervals semed to help with cravings.

Make sure that you have substitute activities lined up for those times when you habitually expected a draw.

It's been years since I used to smoke the stuff alot...I'd just try and skip straight to the 'munchies' which I'd get from smoking - peanut butter on toast or kettle crisps did it for me!

Seriously though, good luck and all that

Well I feel great im on my 8th day of being a non smoker and already feel the benefits of it, the only thing im finding hard is the lack of sleep, I feel wide awake through the night but it's getting better, the patch's and the smoking group I attend is very helpful I would recomend any smoker of Weed to quit.
I have smoked 20 years and have never felt so alert and fresh, I know I can do it and my kids are getting spoilt rotten with the money I have saved. For the first time in years iv'e woken without feeling like death warmed up even though im not sleeping properly.
I also dream now and I never hardley had a dream when I was on Cannabis it's great,I will be a better person by quitting the nasty habit, thank's to all for your support I will not let you down or myself infact.:thumbsup:
I still know I have a long road to walk but I will get to the end of it and I will run from then on.

well i cant say how good this full-of-energy-and-happiness-posting from a complete stranger has made me feel .... this is sooooo great to hear ...

Can only say well done, never smoked weed but I smoked fags for years and gave it up when my little daughter didn't want a hug "cos you smell nasty mummy" ... :( that was twenty years ago and never had one since that day ...

Sending lots of positive thoughts your way to help you ...

:banana:

Originally posted by jaye
Well I feel great im on my 8th day of being a non smoker and already feel the benefits of it, the only thing im finding hard is the lack of sleep, I feel wide awake through the night but it's getting better, the patch's and the smoking group I attend is very helpful I would recomend any smoker of Weed to quit.
I have smoked 20 years and have never felt so alert and fresh, I know I can do it and my kids are getting spoilt rotten with the money I have saved. For the first time in years iv'e woken without feeling like death warmed up even though im not sleeping properly.
I also dream now and I never hardley had a dream when I was on Cannabis it's great,I will be a better person by quitting the nasty habit, thank's to all for your support I will not let you down or myself infact.:thumbsup:
I still know I have a long road to walk but I will get to the end of it and I will run from then on.

That is great :D :D keep up the good work :D :D :D

Thank's again for the support x:clap: :thumbsup:

13 days and still going strongish lol, ive not even had a sniff of weed or cig's I would recommend anyone using patch's not to forget to replace them when they take it off ooooh I felt terrible when I forgot for 7hours.
Feeling positive im going to kick it.:heyhey:

Life will soon become boring and repetitive again :rolleyes:
Just kidding.

I found the best way to quit was to place yourself in a situation where obtaining any was impossible. After a week or so the craving you initially get every morning/after work will go. Your eating patterns may change slightly. When you feel like you need to escape don't go score, go to the Pub. Neck 8 pints and repeat untill urge to score goes away.

You will soon start to feel more focused and alert, those sore eyes will no longer haunt you in the morning. Whatever you do don't start smoking anything else. It just leeds to more expense and grief from wife/women.

After I'd say 2 months maybe 3 you will get the urge again. Try and fight it :thumbsup:

If you can your a stronger man than me :)

You really can do it.
It is now just psychological.The power of the mind is so great.
Just keep thinking of all the benefits.
It shows just how much willpower you really have and it will make you a stronger person.
Treat yourself to something nice as a reward

Originally posted by espadrille
Treat yourself to something nice as a reward

What like a trip to Amsterdam?

Just kidding :D

I feel if I can accomplish this great hurdel I will one day rule the world.
Jay the great has a nice ring to it, lol, no on a serious note I am amazed the money I have saved just in this short period I have spoilt kids and bought some nice wheels for my escort gti they look great, theres no way I would have saved enough to buy them if I still smoked, my sence of smell has returned and life smells good.:clap:

That's great - congratulations - what did you buy that was your treat?

I bought some alloy wheels for my car with the money I have saved, Im going to start saving towards a holiday for us all next, I find it helps to have a goal to save towards I then can appricate the money I have saved rather than blow it all on rubbish like I used to do.
I hope you are well moonfire?:thumbsup:

Where are you thinking about going on holiday? - I heard that Portugal is quite nice - and it is reasonable in price too :)

I'm cool, thanks for asking :D

If I hadn't smoked last year I'd of had enough money to put a deposit down on a house. Now that's rather worrying :s

Originally posted by J-Blaze
If I hadn't smoked last year I'd of had enough money to put a deposit down on a house. Now that's rather worrying :s Wow and think of the investment you would have added to that, do you still smoke weed?

Originally posted by Moonfire
Where are you thinking about going on holiday? - I heard that Portugal is quite nice - and it is reasonable in price too :)

I'm cool, thanks for asking :D I like British hoilidays such as Skegness, Norfolk, Cornwall I know the weather isnt always the best but I love it here in merry old England I will take kids abroad when my youngest gets older she will appriciate it more i think.
I also have heard portugal is nice my mother has not long returned from there she loved it.

Still haven't give in to the craving phew it hasn't been easy but the rewards out way the smoke lol, I have been feeling groggy,grumpy,easy bored, taking the dog for long walks has helped me over come that, still not sleeping right but I suppose ive got to speculate to accumilate. I am going jogging tonight so I will see if I feel fitter, at the moment I dont feel any fitter lol, 5 nights per week is my aim for jogging I hope my lungs can take the shock of breathing just air without the smoke? Anyway hope all is well with everyone?
God Bless,
Jay:thumbsup:

Just keep thinking those positive thoughts and looking forward to those goals you set yourself earlier in the thread.

Jogging alone can be boring too. You seem to be a real family man so maybe better to take the children somewhere in the early evening and enjoy the pleasure of their company? Children can always alleviate boredom!

Even though you feel tired and groggy, physical activity can pep you up ... as you say walking the dog or swimming perhaps? You could take the kids to the local baths .... now that'd be fun!

I just sense that you're losing the incentive a little - you're doing the best for yourself and your family, don't give up now, hon, you're over the worst.

Originally posted by jaye
Wow and think of the investment you would have added to that, do you still smoke weed?

I smoke occasionly now.

Just an update ive done it, I feel ive got over the bad habit and feel better for it, the patches have done me proud. Its been nearly 8 week without even a sniff of the stuff, I feel totally in control. This is the last link I will be typing because I know I am now a fully pledged non smoker, thanks to all for the encouragement youve done me proud. I have broke a 20 year habit so now I am ready to conquer the world lol.:clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

I hear heroin is good for taking your mind off things.

Originally posted by tallyho
I hear heroin is good for taking your mind off things.

Or you could contact one of the mods for some of his beloved mushrooms. That should take your mind of the weed for a while ;)

Originally posted by tallyho
I hear heroin is good for taking your mind off things.
heroin is a painkiller.

It kills any pain, even emotional pain.

Originally posted by mojoworking
Or you could contact one of the mods for some of his beloved mushrooms. That should take your mind of the weed for a while ;)


Mushrooms are now class A drugs, and I'm no longer a mod btw.

tallho and mojoworking - good to see two such encouraging and heartening posts to our fellow member. Who didn't ask for anything to take his mind off anything btw.

Well done, jaye ... brill news ... hope you will carry on posting generally on the forum though.

Originally posted by rubydazzler
tallho and mojoworking - good to see two such encouraging and heartening posts to our fellow member. Who didn't ask for anything to take his mind off anything btw.

That's not strictly true, is it? I would draw your attention not only to the very TITLE of this thread, but also to this post from jaye (one of many in the same vein, I might add):

Originally posted by jaye
I am finding it a little hard and I am really greatful for your suggestions I will try them all, Moonfire I will keep you to the last sentence of the thread thankyou so very much for that, I have an appointment at the doc's to see a nurse this friday so hopefully I will get patches to help the nicotine craving

Oh yes I will be still posting on the forum and I wouldn't take heroin if it was the last thing on this planet it has killed 1 of my old school mates and I have seen the destruction it causes. the dealers should be the ones that die, without them pushing it there would be less addicts.:loopy:

Originally posted by mojoworking
That's not strictly true, is it? I would draw your attention not only to the very TITLE of this thread, but also to this post from jaye (one of many in the same vein, I might add):

I am insulted by that remark do not even put me close to a heroin addict as smoking weed is nothing incomparison to heroin you fool.

Mod. Note

mojoworking, tallyho - you have been less than helpful there.

jaye - try not to rise to the bait.

Cheers

Joe

Originally posted by JoePritchard

Mod. Note

mojoworking, tallyho - you have been less than helpful there.

jaye - try not to rise to the bait.

Cheers

Joe


Oh come on!
Do I really need to spell out this out? Did anyone seriously believe I was directing Jaye to heroin? Is it really necessary for me to state that I see heroin and cocaine as two of the worst scourges of our society? Did Jaye really believe I was directing him to heroin? If he did then for sure it's time to pack in the weed!

My post was exactly the sort of comment you’d get from a mate in a pub, nothing more or less.

Perhaps I should prefix my posts with:
‘WARNING.. MAY CONTAIN DRY WIT, HUMOUR, SARCASM OR OTHER MATERIAL LIKELY TO BE TAKEN IN THE WRONG WAY BY THOSE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER’.
This would be the cyber equivalent of those ridiculous warnings that pervade modern life, informing us that coffee is hot, that it is possible to fall out of a tree, or that there is a danger of death when walking on a railway!

The fact of the matter is that this is a forum not Drug Users anonymous. We are normal people (by and large) and not counselors. Just what kind of reply do you think you might get?

Joe, was your post as a moderator honestly justified here? It has all the tone of a teacher admonishing schoolboys or a parent splitting up to squabbling siblings and I take issue with that. Jaye is quite capable of speaking for himself, there has been no foul language, no inappropriate links, no threats etc. In fact, I really can see no justification for your post in the capacity of moderator. Please outline your justification for it.

Originally posted by tallyho
Oh come on!
Do I really need to spell out this out? Did anyone seriously believe I was directing Jaye to heroin? Is it really necessary for me to state that I see heroin and cocaine as two of the worst scourges of our society? Did Jaye really believe I was directing him to heroin? If he did then for sure it's time to pack in the weed!

My post was exactly the sort of comment you’d get from a mate in a pub, nothing more or less.

Perhaps I should prefix my posts with:
‘WARNING.. MAY CONTAIN DRY WIT, HUMOUR, SARCASM OR OTHER MATERIAL LIKELY TO BE TAKEN IN THE WRONG WAY BY THOSE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER’.
This would be the cyber equivalent of those ridiculous warnings that pervade modern life, informing us that coffee is hot, that it is possible to fall out of a tree, or that there is a danger of death when walking on a railway!

The fact of the matter is that this is a forum not Drug Users anonymous. We are normal people (by and large) and not counselors. Just what kind of reply do you think you might get?

Joe, was your post as a moderator honestly justified here? It has all the tone of a teacher admonishing schoolboys or a parent splitting up to squabbling siblings and I take issue with that. Jaye is quite capable of speaking for himself, there has been no foul language, no inappropriate links, no threats etc. In fact, I really can see no justification for your post in the capacity of moderator. Please outline your justification for it.

You really are a charmer, aren't you?

"Please outline your justification for it" - who do you think you are? :rant:

I find your attitude to other Forum users offensive and unneccessary.

StarSparkle

Originally posted by tallyho
Oh come on!
Do I really need to spell out this out? Did anyone seriously believe I was directing Jaye to heroin? Is it really necessary for me to state that I see heroin and cocaine as two of the worst scourges of our society? Did Jaye really believe I was directing him to heroin? If he did then for sure it's time to pack in the weed!

My post was exactly the sort of comment you’d get from a mate in a pub, nothing more or less.

Perhaps I should prefix my posts with:
‘WARNING.. MAY CONTAIN DRY WIT, HUMOUR, SARCASM OR OTHER MATERIAL LIKELY TO BE TAKEN IN THE WRONG WAY BY THOSE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER’.
This would be the cyber equivalent of those ridiculous warnings that pervade modern life, informing us that coffee is hot, that it is possible to fall out of a tree, or that there is a danger of death when walking on a railway!

The fact of the matter is that this is a forum not Drug Users anonymous. We are normal people (by and large) and not counselors. Just what kind of reply do you think you might get?

Joe, was your post as a moderator honestly justified here? It has all the tone of a teacher admonishing schoolboys or a parent splitting up to squabbling siblings and I take issue with that. Jaye is quite capable of speaking for himself, there has been no foul language, no inappropriate links, no threats etc. In fact, I really can see no justification for your post in the capacity of moderator. Please outline your justification for it.

Why was there a need to metion heroin? I still think you didnt think before you had your say I dont mind freedom of speech but I did find your comment offensive however you word it.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
You really are a charmer, aren't you?


Thanks. Oh wait, is this what you really meant or are you pulling my leg? If this is what you meant, Thank you. But if this isn’t what you meant ‘I find your attitude to other Forum users offensive and unnecessary.’
Originally posted by StarSparkle

"Please outline your justification for it" - who do you think you are? :rant:

A forum user who has broken no rules and who is seeking a justification for Joe’s post in the capacity of moderator. I’m quite happy to be told off when I’ve done something wrong, otherwise I don’t find this big brotheresque intervention helpful or necessary.

Isn’t all this rather puerile? Lighten up people!

Originally posted by jaye
I am insulted by that remark do not even put me close to a heroin addict as smoking weed is nothing incomparison to heroin you fool.

I think you are in error here sir. I never once mentioned heroin.

Even so, if you choose to discuss your drug habit on an open forum with thousands of strangers, you must expect some of them to be less than sympathetic to what is essentially a self-inflicted problem.

Originally posted by tallyho
Oh come on!
Do I really need to spell out this out? Did anyone seriously believe I was directing Jaye to heroin? Is it really necessary for me to state that I see heroin and cocaine as two of the worst scourges of our society? Did Jaye really believe I was directing him to heroin? If he did then for sure it's time to pack in the weed!

My post was exactly the sort of comment you’d get from a mate in a pub, nothing more or less.

Perhaps I should prefix my posts with:
‘WARNING.. MAY CONTAIN DRY WIT, HUMOUR, SARCASM OR OTHER MATERIAL LIKELY TO BE TAKEN IN THE WRONG WAY BY THOSE WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER’.
This would be the cyber equivalent of those ridiculous warnings that pervade modern life, informing us that coffee is hot, that it is possible to fall out of a tree, or that there is a danger of death when walking on a railway!

The fact of the matter is that this is a forum not Drug Users anonymous. We are normal people (by and large) and not counselors. Just what kind of reply do you think you might get?

Joe, was your post as a moderator honestly justified here? It has all the tone of a teacher admonishing schoolboys or a parent splitting up to squabbling siblings and I take issue with that. Jaye is quite capable of speaking for himself, there has been no foul language, no inappropriate links, no threats etc. In fact, I really can see no justification for your post in the capacity of moderator. Please outline your justification for it.

If you wish to discuss how I moderate threads, or complain about the way I moderate threads, please use the 'Contact Us' option and raise the issue with Geoff.

We expect people on this forum to behave with a reasonable degree of decorum. If you can't manage it, fine, but expect to get a few postings from the Mods.

That's as far as I'm willing to discuss it.

If you dislike the way I work, please raise it with any of the other Mods or Geoff.

Cheers

Joe.

MOD: The thread title is Quitting weed, etc., not personal abuse or criticism of a mod's behaviour. Thanks in advance for your compliance.

Allow me to attempt to redeem myself for the benefit of some of those sans humour…

Jaye, get hold of this book by James Frey, A million little pieces.

It’s autobiographical and about one man’s experience of kicking his addictions (crack, speed, sniffing petrol – you name it). A central thread of his book is his complete rejection of transferring blame/responsibility onto anyone/anything else. In his eyes, he made the decisions to use drugs, to do what he did, and therefore only he can make the decisions needed to overcome the addictions. Told repeatedly by specialists that he will fail, he rejected the famous 12 steps and fought his demons by himself. Against the odds, he beat his addictions and is clean to this day.

The book can be pretty tough going at times (he undergoes dental surgery for damage caused why falling down a fire escape whilst high on crack without any anaesthetic) but ultimately the message is overwhelmingly positive and uplifting.

It should put getting off weed into perspective.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400031087/qid=1114109518/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-8625811-0034229?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Dear Mods,
Have emailed Geoff as you suggest.

Hi Jaye!

Good luck with dropping the old habit, and even better luck with you're new (weed free) life style.

You'll probably find, that in most places in life there are people who will spout negative / inappropriate / unhelpful stuff at you.

I think it best not to focus your attention on such people. They will soon realise you're ignoring them, then move on and look for some other target for their crap.

Better to just focus all your energies on what you want to achieve, the postive stuff that you want to get from life.

Good luck !!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Nicely put, Jamie.

Tallyho, I really think that is one of the best books I have ever read. It is insightful, and well written without being patronising or puke-worthy. Its nice to find someone else who has read it! I leant it to a friend who was struggling with ecstasy and he reads it again and again.

Jaye I would recommend it to you or anyone else struggling with drugs, or even anyone who just wants a good read! It certainly helped me when I needed it!

Originally posted by kathythebean

Tallyho, I really think that is one of the best books I have ever read. .

Isn't it just.
here's a link to the author reading from it
http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/0403/frey/reading.html

It sounds like he finds some of his own writing difficult to read at points. Powerful stuff.

Originally posted by jaye
Hello all,
I have stopped smoking weed, I have smoked for 20 years (weed) and im just wondering if anyone can tell what the withdraw sytoms are?, so I have an idea what im in store for, I have children now and dont want to be wasteing my money on anything else but my kids.
Any advise is welcome.

Cheers,
Jay.:help: :gag:

its very easy to replace weed with fags. DON'T

Originally posted by robbie
its very easy to replace weed with fags. DON'T

thats the crux of it - habit formation.

Anything that is pleasurable will, under the right circumstances, become habit forming.

The clever bit is programming yourself into useful habits that deliver the dopamine warmth of a satiated need, and not habits that are expensive/ruin your health/both.

I know all this in theory, and in practice at least once....but when it comes down to it, it is force of will.

Having given up, you must not give in to the temptation to think that you have somehow 'cracked it', because that is the moment you relax your guard against a pathway or habit that is still there - even if it is not currently clamouring for your attention.

I have never found out how long that habit stays latent, I suspect it differs widely - as I have seen people quit smoking weed, and then cigs with only a few weeks of craving and no further problems. After smoking both daily for over 10 years.

It's a fact that you can be predisposed to addiction, so the willpower required to quit doing something habitual will vary quite a bit between people.

Thankyou, I have ordered the book I lookforward to the read.:thumbsup: