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stewpot54
04-03-2008, 05:53
There has been a shop stood empty on Attercliffe road for as long as Ican remember.I have always noticed it because of the name Pierrepoint.
I think it used to sell fruit and veg through a market style front and must have been closed at least 50 years.
It is just as if the shutters were pulled down and totally left as it was all those years ago.
Iwould love to know more about it.It is on the left side leaving town somewhere below the old Banners on the opposite side of the road.

CathS
04-03-2008, 06:16
have a look here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IQOCLVSATETUFQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQ UIV0?xml=/news/2007/10/23/ncrime223.xml
This was the family who owned the shop

stewpot54
04-03-2008, 06:42
was he part of the family who owned the shop?
Also dont you think it fascinating that the painted sign above the shop is still clear enough to see after all these years.

CathS
04-03-2008, 07:13
Hiya
I believe that Thomas William Pierrepoint who the shop belonged to, was the brother of Henry Albert Pierrepoint and uncle to young Albert Pierrepoint, all who were hangmen.
Theres a book you can buy - http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/662100/Executioner-Pierrepoint/Product.html
And also a dvd - http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/1063795/Pierrepoint/Product.html

Vulcan B2
04-03-2008, 08:46
There has been a shop stood empty on Attercliffe road for as long as Ican remember.I have always noticed it because of the name Pierrepoint.
I think it used to sell fruit and veg through a market style front and must have been closed at least 50 years.
It is just as if the shutters were pulled down and totally left as it was all those years ago.
Iwould love to know more about it.It is on the left side leaving town somewhere below the old Banners on the opposite side of the road.

How weird is that? I've also wondered about the shop, what with the infamous name, it always made me think about the hangman. Should have known really - it's not a terribly common name is it?

lakerman
04-03-2008, 17:05
I Worked in Attercliffe from 1966 to 1980. The shop was closed when I started work in the area in 1966 and it appeared as though it had been closed for many years then.

hillsbro
04-03-2008, 17:39
The Sheffield directory for 1925 lists "William Pierrepont, greengrocer, 753 Attercliffe Road". His home was at 53 Main Road, Darnall. There is no mention of this address in the 1973 directory.

escort1
04-03-2008, 19:24
Often wondered whats behind those shutters, prob a few rotten spuds! Can imagine the orginal counters etc are still there.

carsupplier
04-03-2008, 20:28
Often wondered whats behind those shutters, prob a few rotten spuds! Can imagine the orginal counters etc are still there.

I found this link on the Flickr website > www.flickr.com/photos/merronys_moll/1267950440/
If this link doesn't work, go to the Flickr website and enter 'greengrocers sheffield' and have a look at the top two images, they are both taken from the inside of the shop.

p.s. Check the sell by date if you're thinking of buying anything from there.

pigeon
04-03-2008, 20:54
There has been a shop stood empty on Attercliffe road for as long as Ican remember.I have always noticed it because of the name Pierrepoint.
I think it used to sell fruit and veg through a market style front and must have been closed at least 50 years.
It is just as if the shutters were pulled down and totally left as it was all those years ago.
Iwould love to know more about it.It is on the left side leaving town somewhere below the old Banners on the opposite side of the road.
it was open when I was a lad and I am 48 now it sold fruit and veg and there were a few serving so it must have been quite popular.

Dave59
04-03-2008, 23:39
Hi All

I delivered bread to Pierrepoints in the early 60's. Not much else to say about it - sorry!

David D

stewpot54
05-03-2008, 04:56
I found this link on the Flickr website > www.flickr.com/photos/merronys_moll/1267950440/
If this link doesn't work, go to the Flickr website and enter 'greengrocers sheffield' and have a look at the top two images, they are both taken from the inside of the shop.

p.s. Check the sell by date if you're thinking of buying anything from there.

Brilliant photo /shattered the illusion though/expected to see rotten fruit and veg and a couple of fossilised assistants.
incidentally who actually owns the property now I wonder.

beardno1
05-03-2008, 05:32
Very interesting allways wondered about this shop whenever ive passed it.

Joanl
05-03-2008, 07:21
I can say it was still open late 64/65. used to be a very busy shop in it's day....I lived on Newhall Road and then we had the choice of Pierrepont to the right at the top or Whittakers to the left. Looks very sad now, doesn't it?

parsleydiva
05-03-2008, 09:48
Pierrepoint's was a very busy little shop. I was a very good friend of a friend of there's and would meet up with them on the odd occasion. Well known in the Darnall area and I think they belonged to the Community Centre at Darnall.

Clifflad
05-03-2008, 10:22
There has been a shop stood empty on Attercliffe road for as long as Ican remember.I have always noticed it because of the name Pierrepoint.
I think it used to sell fruit and veg through a market style front and must have been closed at least 50 years.
It is just as if the shutters were pulled down and totally left as it was all those years ago.
Iwould love to know more about it.It is on the left side leaving town somewhere below the old Banners on the opposite side of the road.

There was a fruit and veg shop named Pierpoints next to Attercliffe church. It was about a couple of minutes walk from Banner's on the opposite side . Opposite Worksop Road.

whitewitch
05-03-2008, 10:55
I was born down attercliffe (1970) i cannot remember the greengrocers as we moved when i was 4, however, i did take care of Thomas Williams wife during her final year who passed away about 1990/1991, they also sold fruit and veg on the side of the roads (from the old wooden carts)

bobby99
05-03-2008, 16:41
have a look here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IQOCLVSATETUFQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQ UIV0?xml=/news/2007/10/23/ncrime223.xml
This was the family who owned the shop
the shop was called Pierrepont the hangman was called Pierrepoint with an I

Joanl
05-03-2008, 17:04
My mother and grandmother always called it Pierrepoints but, you are right, as is seen on the photo....it is Pierrepont as in my own post. I think it was a local dialect thing.

bobby99
05-03-2008, 17:15
The hangman was definitely called Pierrepoint... by the way, the film is on DVD and it's very good and in parts very sad. I bought if from Ebay for £5
I was lead to believe that an assistant hangman lived on Bole Hill Lane Crookes, I don't know his name, their identity was top secret at the time they were "working" does anybody know when their names became public? I got this from Wikipedia
Albert Pierrepoint (30 March 1905 – 10 July 1992) is the most famous member of a Yorkshire family who provided three of Britain's Chief Executioners in the first half of the 20th century. He lived at Clayton, Bradford, Lincoln, Oldham and the Merseyside seaside resort of Southport.
I don't think the Pierrepoint family in question came from Sheffield.

CathS
05-03-2008, 18:32
the shop was called Pierrepont the hangman was called Pierrepoint with an I

Although the name is spelt slightly different they are one and the same

bobby99
06-03-2008, 09:29
Although the name is spelt slightly different they are one and the same
The family originated from Bradford try this lead
http://www.pierrepoint.co.uk/build/the_pierrepoints.htm very interesting wherever they came from:)

bobby99
06-03-2008, 11:20
The Sheffield directory for 1925 lists "William Pierrepoint, greengrocer, 753 Attercliffe Road". His home was at 53 Main Road, Darnall. There is no mention of this address in the 1973 directory.
Can you point me in the right direction for Sheffield directory 1925 lists in fact any local directories that might help me with family tree... thanks lots

todd100%
06-03-2008, 11:31
Although the name is spelt slightly different they are one and the same
What makes you so certain of this fact?

todd100%
06-03-2008, 12:38
The Sheffield directory for 1925 lists "William Pierrepoint, greengrocer, 753 Attercliffe Road". His home was at 53 Main Road, Darnall. There is no mention of this address in the 1973 directory.
1911 Whites Directory has William Pierrepont living at 53 Main Road Darnal not spelt the same way as the hangman

hillsbro
06-03-2008, 12:46
The same applies to the 1925 directory - I checked yesterday and the spelling is actually Pierrepont. I tried (using on-line census returns and other useful websites) to establish a connection between the Attercliffe Pierrepont and the Pierrepoint executioner family but failed. I would be surprised if there is a connection (as one would think it would have become well-known locally) but you never know. As family history enthusiasts well know, the same name could be spelt differently in different sources, 100 or so years ago.

hillsbro
06-03-2008, 12:54
Can you point me in the right direction for Sheffield directory 1925 lists in fact any local directories that might help me with family tree... thanks lots

The Local Studies Library on Surrey Street has a great many Sheffield directories going back to the year dot. Otherwise, several firms have scanned the books and offer them in CD-ROM format. I obtained my "Kelly's 1925 Directory - Rotherham & Sheffield" for about £10 from this firm:

http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/sitemap.php?
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stewpot54
06-03-2008, 13:15
I would think they must have come from France at some time with that surname.Huegenots perhaps?

bobby99
06-03-2008, 15:01
The Local Studies Library on Surrey Street has a great many Sheffield directories going back to the year dot. Otherwise, several firms have scanned the books and offer them in CD-ROM format. I obtained my "Kelly's 1925 Directory - Rotherham & Sheffield" for about £10 from this firm:

http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/sitemap.php?
.
Thanks for that I have just bought it, it will be very useful. I don't think the Pierrepoints who were executioners are the same family as Pierreponts of Sheffield. 192.com lists several people with both names. Interesting though because I really do know that I have heard somewhere that Sheffield has a connection with the "hangmen" and indeed I was under the impression that the old shop in Attercliffe was that family business I hadn't noticed the missing i having not looked at it properly!!:loopy:

hillsbro
06-03-2008, 15:58
I would think they must have come from France at some time with that surname.Huegenots perhaps?

The name is clearly French in origin, though the family apparently came over to England at the time of the Norman Conquest - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holme_Pierrepont

This is about a small Nottinghamshire village called Holme Pierrepont and so it relates to the Pierrepont spelling, but census returns etc. confirm that there were many people in Nottinghamshire whose names used both spellings; the same applies to Lancashire. 100 years or so ago there were few Pierrepoints or Pierreponts in Yorkshire.

chimay
12-04-2012, 21:20
I know this is an old thread so I hope people don't mind me resurrecting it just to say I think my mother worked there in the early 1960s.

denlin
13-04-2012, 06:38
the shop was called Pierrepont the hangman was called Pierrepoint with an I

Where does it show you the family?