with the end in sight of the most exciting season in a long time, genuine fights for the title, champions league, uefa and against relegation, the fight for fourth is hotly contested between three clubs (realistically).

who do you think will clinch it?

I still expect Liverpool to go on a late surge - they have done for the last three or four years, once it's far too late to have any possible hope of winning the title.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=295827 I am going for Liverpool out of the two I said here. There are loads of games left!

I backed Everton to win the league without the 'Big Four' at the start of the season at 8/1, so I sincerely hope that it is Everton ;)

I think that Liverpool will have too much in the end for Everton although i do hope i am wrong.

Would you all agree that Liverpool have had a really bad season in the Premier League this season, under-achieving in many people's eyes?

Would you all agree that Everton have had a really good season in the Premier League this season, maybe over-achieving a little in some people's eyes?

The gap is still there. When both at their best, Liverpool are streets ahead!

That's where Liverpool should be in the table with regards to Everton (streets ahead), come the end of the season. Will they be? Well, it may be closer than it should be but Liverpool will still finish fourth! After all, even the most hardend Liverpool hater would have to agree that Liverpool are a far superior club with far superior players, and that will show through in the end!!

:hihi: Funny how 99% of posters on here have said Liverpool will finish 4th yet the voting poll has Everton way out in front.

Preacher man been getting his friends to cast a vote or two maybe :hihi:

Liverpool will likely finish 4th, but I'd much prefer Everton to finish above them.

paul you should be streets ahead! your most expensive player cost as much as our whole attack and midfield..

but we havent overachieved, we have just raised our game through good management and shrewd buys. even if you do get 4th i will still be happy with our season. until 4 years ago we were fighting relegation as a normality.

im not saying we will win the league in the next 5 years (or 10) but im happy with our progress and enjoying it while i can.

Everton have been a joy to watch recently, barring last night, Liverpool have some very expensive players who seem to perform when they feel like.

I think the pressure on Lpool might become too much and the cracks will begin to show.
Everton are still underdogs.
Any way it is all over in a few more games.
The Derby looks set to be a cruncher, I hope Gerrard does not get sent off again in fact I hope he sticks to football this time without the refereeing antics, and may the best team win.

nah gerrard being sent off would be funny!

I backed Everton to win the league without the 'Big Four' at the start of the season at 8/1, so I sincerely hope that it is Everton ;)

How much did you bet?

I want everton, but it will be liverpool in my opinion

we havent overachieved, we have just raised our game through good management and shrewd buys. even if you do get 4th i will still be happy with our season. until 4 years ago we were fighting relegation as a normality.
Great point Preach! Moyes is turning out to be a great manager (must be a Scottish thing) who has taken Everton from strength to srength. The competition is defenitily back on Mersyside!!

The Derby looks set to be a cruncher, I hope Gerrard does not get sent off again in fact I hope he sticks to football this time without the refereeing antics, and may the best team win.
I just hope the referee is capable of making the right decisions in the first place and that he doesn't actually need reminding of the rules by a team captain ;)

Hey Paul, Isn't Souness still looking for a job? Was thinking about Stuart McCall for Chelsea next season. Now who's Scottish and available to replace Wenger............? ;)

Think Pool will finish 4th but would love it to be Everton (and us Owls dont like toffees) just because of Moyes,a Brilliant Manager
Take Away Carragher Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are nothing
Everton play more as a team than Pool do
Too many Pool players have good games when they need to,Everton as a team are more consistent

Take Away Carragher Gerrard and Torres and Liverpool are nothing
Everton play more as a team than Pool do
Too many Pool players have good games when they need to,Everton as a team are more consistent
What a load of crap!
What about Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso etc?

You say take away Carragher Gerrard and Torres from Liverpool. What if you take Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez from Utd?, or Adebayor, Fabregas and Hleb from Arsenal? What if you took Lampard, Terry and Drogba from Chelsea? Then take Yakubu, Johnson and Cahill from the Everton team and look what your left with!

If Everton were more consistent they would be higher in the table than Liverpool, think about it!

Liverpool have one of the best away records this season in the league and have only lost one game at Anfield. It's the draws that have messed up our season. That is now being corrected and you can clearly see the gulf in class between the two sides.

How much did you bet?

Only £10 single, but I had them in a multiple as well. Unfortunately, they'll be my only winner as things stand really, as Swansea have stolen a march on Doncaster, and the other two in my Lucky 15, are, erm, not getting there (Chesterfield and Wolves).

and us Owls dont like toffees

i always thought owls and us liked each other :huh:

i always thought owls and us liked each other :huh:
Although you may want to disquise the fact by hiding behind the name 'Everton'......... You are a Scouser!!!! Nobody likes Scouser's Preach except Scousers. You should know that!

Would you all agree that Liverpool have had a really bad season in the Premier League this season, under-achieving in many people's eyes?


When that level of underachievement is consistent for three, four, five years in a row, you have to suspect that it's not underachievement at all but the best they're actually capable of. They've been lucky enough to win knockout tournaments, but they cannot mount a consistent campaign.

When that level of underachievement is consistent for three, four, five years in a row, you have to suspect that it's not underachievement at all but the best they're actually capable of. They've been lucky enough to win knockout tournaments, but they cannot mount a consistent campaign.
Well if that is the case, why do so many people slate Benitez saying that if it wasn't for his rotation, Liverpool would certainly be challenging the likes of UTD and Arsenal? Surely that says that Liverpool (or more likely Benitez) are not fullfilling their potential?

In any case, I was saying that Liverpool have had a poor season so far in the Premiership, which they have. That is irrelivent to whether they could mount a title challenge. It simply means that they should be closer to the other teams (only 2 points behind Chelsea) and farer away from Everton! Liverpool have a much better chance of lifting the Premiership title within the next 5 years than Everton do. Liverpool also have a much better chance of reaching and winning the Champions League within the next 5 years than Everton do! This shows the gulf in class and although Everton may be close at present with regards to Premiership points, they are years behind Liverpool in terms of everything else, and that will be proved before too long!

And as for you, I can't take you seriously in your posts! In one you praise Liverpool and Rafa for all their achievements (Champs League etc) but then in another you say how lucky they have been :huh:

I think you post your thoughts only on the strength of what mood you are actually in!

What a load of crap!
What about Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso etc?

You say take away Carragher Gerrard and Torres from Liverpool. What if you take Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez from Utd?, or Adebayor, Fabregas and Hleb from Arsenal? What if you took Lampard, Terry and Drogba from Chelsea? Then take Yakubu, Johnson and Cahill from the Everton team and look what your left with!

If Everton were more consistent they would be higher in the table than Liverpool, think about it!

Liverpool have one of the best away records this season in the league and have only lost one game at Anfield. It's the draws that have messed up our season. That is now being corrected and you can clearly see the gulf in class between the two sides.


And the Gulf is what???
Reds 3 points up but Everton have a game in hand.............SOME GULF

What a load of crap!
What about Reina, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso etc?

You say take away Carragher Gerrard and Torres from Liverpool. What if you take Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez from Utd?, or Adebayor, Fabregas and Hleb from Arsenal? What if you took Lampard, Terry and Drogba from Chelsea? Then take Yakubu, Johnson and Cahill from the Everton team and look what your left with!

If Everton were more consistent they would be higher in the table than Liverpool, think about it!

Liverpool have one of the best away records this season in the league and have only lost one game at Anfield. It's the draws that have messed up our season. That is now being corrected and you can clearly see the gulf in class between the two sides.

Take Ronaldo,Rooney and Tevez from Man Utd and uve still Got Scholes,Vidic,Ferdinannd,Giggs

Take Away 3 Arsenal players and uve still got a Team full of youngsters who cost considerably less than Liverpool squad and who will finish with a hell of a lot more points

Take Lampard Terry and Drogba out of Chelsea and uve still got Cech A.Cole Ballack J.Cole Anelka Wright Phillips

Will Give you Reiner but Agger,Mascherano and Alsonso (he cant even get in team)............SERIOUS???

And if Everton CONTINUE to be as consistent as they are then there is every chance they are going to finish above Pool this season

Looks like they are going out of Eufa and Pool are going to go further in champions league so which of the two is gonna be more match fit and refreshed?

Wouldnt put money on You guys finishing 4th

i always thought owls and us liked each other :huh:

We dont like ya cos ya nicked F.A cup off us in 66 and ya screwed us over in F.A semis in 80s when Sharpe scored wonder volley in extra time

When that level of underachievement is consistent for three, four, five years in a row, you have to suspect that it's not underachievement at all but the best they're actually capable of. They've been lucky enough to win knockout tournaments, but they cannot mount a consistent campaign.

Bang on Mate even Captain Fantastic Gerrard said as much

Take Ronaldo,Rooney and Tevez from Man Utd and uve still Got Scholes,Vidic,Ferdinannd,GiggsScholes and Giggs have 1 year left tops and Vidic and Ferdinand, although great defenders, are not going to get the goals to win games mate!

Take Away 3 Arsenal players and uve still got a Team full of youngsters who cost considerably less than Liverpool squad and who will finish with a hell of a lot more pointsA taeam full of players that you can't even remember the names of? Would they be so far ahead without the mentioned players?

Take Lampard Terry and Drogba out of Chelsea and uve still got Cech A.Cole Ballack J.Cole Anelka Wright PhillipsGive you that one but Chelsea are infact only two points ahaead of Liverpool! Like you said previously regarding Everton, hardly a gulf!

Will Give you Reiner but Agger,Mascherano and Alsonso (he cant even get in team)............SERIOUS???Very. Agger is class and Liverpool have missed him badly. Mascherano is one of the best holding midfielders in the world who was wanted by most of the top clubs in Europe before signing perminently for us! Alonso CAN get in the team and has infact formed a great pairing with Masch in recent games allowing Gerrard to play in a free role behind Torres, which is working fantastically well. The results of Liverpool since this system has been in place proves this! Alonso is also repeatedly been linked with some of the top teams in Europe!

And if Everton CONTINUE to be as consistent as they are then there is every chance they are going to finish above Pool this seasonMaybe, but there is also EVERY chance that Liverpool will pull away from them. There is also every chance that Everton will suffer a loss of form. Then there is the game between the two sides at Anfield, which Liverpool are more than capable of winning. Should be a good race!

Looks like they are going out of Eufa and Pool are going to go further in champions league so which of the two is gonna be more match fit and refreshed?
Well if that's the case, Everton can look forward to coming third, as Chelsea are only 2 points ahead of Liverpool in the Premiership currently and are also still involved in the Champions League!
Wouldnt put money on You guys finishing 4thI would, and so would most other football fans who know their stuff! The bookies also think that Liverpool will cruise it. If your so confident, go stick a ton on Everton. Bit of a waste of money if you ask me!

Scholes and Giggs have 1 year left tops and Vidic and Ferdinand, although great defenders, are not going to get the goals to win games mate!

A taeam full of players that you can't even remember the names of? Would they be so far ahead without the mentioned players?

Give you that one but Chelsea are infact only two points ahaead of Liverpool! Like you said previously regarding Everton, hardly a gulf!

Very. Agger is class and Liverpool have missed him badly. Mascherano is one of the best holding midfielders in the world who was wanted by most of the top clubs in Europe before signing perminently for us! Alonso CAN get in the team and has infact formed a great pairing with Masch in recent games allowing Gerrard to play in a free role behind Torres, which is working fantastically well. The results of Liverpool since this system has been in place proves this! Alonso is also repeatedly been linked with some of the top teams in Europe!

Maybe, but there is also EVERY chance that Liverpool will pull away from them. There is also every chance that Everton will suffer a loss of form. Then there is the game between the two sides at Anfield, which Liverpool are more than capable of winning. Should be a good race!


Well if that's the case, Everton can look forward to coming third, as Chelsea are only 2 points ahead of Liverpool in the Premiership currently and are also still involved in the Champions League!
I would, and so would most other football fans who know their stuff! The bookies also think that Liverpool will cruise it. If your so confident, go stick a ton on Everton. Bit of a waste of money if you ask me!

Mate
I could real of Arsenals first 11 with no struggle (i run 2 fantasy football leagues) but u would only accuse me of googleing it
And without wanting to rub it in most people woujld find it a hell of a lot easier to name Pools first team than Arsenals,which begs the question why are Arsenal so far in front of Pool!!!

And How many Pool defenders are gonna get ya goals to win games?
Agger .......NO
Carragher.........Havin a laugh
Aurelio..........er how many goals so far?
Arbeloa.........Scored yet?
Skytel........Am laffin just thinkin of him

The only defenders you have who pops up with the occasional goal is Hyypia and Risse and both of em spend too much time gettin splinters in their backside
Serious mate Liverpool Defenders DONT score goals

Mate And How many Pool defenders are gonna get ya goals to win games?
Agger .......NO
Carragher.........Havin a laugh
Aurelio..........er how many goals so far?
Arbeloa.........Scored yet?
Skytel........Am laffin just thinkin of him

The only defenders you have who pops up with the occasional goal is Hyypia and Risse and both of em spend too much time gettin splinters in their backside
Serious mate Liverpool Defenders DONT score goals
And after your assesment of the Liverpool defence I will say, AND?

You stated Ferdinand and Vidic! I simply said that although they are great players, they are not gonna score the goals to win games (as no defenders do consistently). You also sais Scholes and Giggs, who are almost finished as players. I then said take out Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez ................

FFS does it matter? The point is, Liverpool, although only losing 3 times, are in the position they are in because of early season home draws! That is now being corrected (won the last 5 by some margin). Our form has picked up remarkably since the new 4-2-3-1 systwm has been introduced, along with the fact that Rafa seems to have realised that picking a settled side is the way forward instead of all this rotation crap!

i'm not saying Everton have no chance of finishing fourth, of course they have. They are a much improved side that are very hard to beat but I just feel that, although the league table doesn't suggest it, Liverpool are still some way ahead of Everton in terms of class, playing staff etc and that it will show come the end of the season. But I would feel that wouldn't I? :hihi:

It will be a good race whatever the outcome, i'm sure of that!

Oh by the way, Agger has actually scored a few goals already in his short time at Anfield! One of which was in a certain Champions League semi final against the great Chelsea! ;)

While we are on the subject of Chelsea (off topic I know) did you know that their players were not considered for the advertisement of condoms? Yeah, apparently Durex felt they would be no good as they can never get past a semi :D

I regularly read Teletext's letters pages and one comment sums up the expectations of both Liverpool clubs.

That, Everton - no matter what happens now to the end of the season - have had a fantastic season but that Liverpool by comparison have had a poor one!

Yet both clubs are vying for that fourth spot!

I like to see both Liverpool clubs doing well (I was brought up watching these sides in the 70s and 80s, the latter imparticularly was a good time to be a scouser) and I have a bit of a soft spot for both clubs. (I've done Anfield just the once, Goodison at least four times.)

Liverpool just aren't quite there yet and I thought this season could be their best chance yet to win the League. A couple of quality signings and the end of the rotation policy, coupled with a change in Chelsea's fortunes might make winning the league possible next season...but then if you look at Man U and the Arse, then I still think you're quite a way off.

Will Everton be able to compete in the transfer market during summer though? Because if they CAN, who knows what next season will bring. Moyes has bought fantastically well and the team seem to know what each other is doing. A good boss, no doubt and for the time at least, he's got the fans on his side..which might not quite apply across Stanley Park!

Liverpool are still some way ahead of Everton in terms of class

i would have to disagree with this. in terms of class i dont think many other clubs present themselves in a better way than everton. liverpool this season have behaved in a way that shows no class.

Some good points in there ousetunes, great post!

What I will say with regards to the support of the gaffa is that IF Rafa continues to play the current system (which he played at Valencia and which is working at Liverpool a treat currently) coupled with his new view that rotation is not the way to go, then he will have the support of the fans, of that i'm sure!

What Liverpool need to do in the summer is only add 2 - 3 top notch players (£20m - £30m bracket) instead of 6 - 7 (£5m - £10m bracket) players, which they have done in recent seasons due to squad building (clearing out the Houllier dross)! This won't affect team building/moral but what it will do is add much needed, world class quality in positions such as Left Back and in the wider area's of the field! A new forward would also be a bonus to play up with Torresm which could be funded by the sale of Kuyt and Crouch, who I feel their days are numbered at Anfield!

An example of this (only adding 3 players) could be something like (and it is just an example, and not who I think will be brought in):

......................Reina.......................

Arbeloa......Carragher...Agger........Lahm


..............Mascherano....Alonso................ .


.....................Gerrard......................

....Villa........................Querisma.......

......................Torres...................... ..

Subs:

Itandje
Skrtel
Pennant
Leiva
Babel

The subs could be optional due to the size of the squad which also includes the likes of Finnan, Kewell, Benayoun, Riise, Hyppia, Aurelio, Voronin, Crouch and Kuyt etc.

That squad would surely challange on all fronts and if a feww players were sold to sanction the deals for the three players needed, then it shouldn't cost the world either!

Well thats what I think anyway :hihi:

i would have to disagree with this. in terms of class i dont think many other clubs present themselves in a better way than everton. liverpool this season have behaved in a way that shows no class.
I meant in terms of the playing staff, support etc, not the actions of the new owners which you are damn right about, have shown no class whatsoever!!

I meant in terms of the playing staff, support etc, not the actions of the new owners which you are damn right about, have shown no class whatsoever!!

i dont benitez shows much class either to be honest.

but in terms of playing staff then we will see at the end of the season who has the most class. its going to be fun (and nerve wreaking) finding out :thumbsup:

What if you took Lampard, Terry and Drogba from Chelsea?

They would be where they are now, as they have played a lot of games with them this season.

When does the point arise when people stop saying that Liverpool are under achieving and they start saying that Liverpool have found their level. For the last 15 years or so people have been saying that liverpool have been underachieving in the League.

i dont benitez shows much class either to be honest.

but in terms of playing staff then we will see at the end of the season who has the most class. its going to be fun (and nerve wreaking) finding out :thumbsup:
It certainly is! We are at it already with the mind games and friendly banter, not to mention the nerves and anticipation every time each of us plays. Can you imagine what it's like for the players and staff of each club? :gag:

Oh, i've edited my post (the reply to Briggy), take a look. Should put a smile on your face Preacher :D

They would be where they are now, as they have played a lot of games with them this season.

When does the point arise when people stop saying that Liverpool are under achieving and they start saying that Liverpool have found their level. For the last 15 years or so people have been saying that liverpool have been underachieving in the League.
Or have they been saying that in the past 200 years Chelsea have only recently massively over-achieved? ;)

Or have they been saying that in the past 200 years Chelsea have only recently massively over-achieved? ;)

Yea I think you have got it right, for the last 200 years people have been saying that Chelsea have only recently overachieved :roll: .

An example of this (only adding 3 players) could be something like (and it is just an example, and not who I think will be brought in):

......................Reina.......................

Arbeloa......Carragher...Agger........Lahm


..............Mascherano....Alonso................ .


.....................Gerrard......................

....Villa........................Querisma.......

......................Torres...................... ..




mate anyone can do what you have done.
i think the team below is just as good, if not better than yours :D



......................howard...................... .

neville..........yobo...lescott........baines


......................gatusso.................


.................cahill.......fabregas............ .....

....ronaldinho..............................arteta .......

.......................yakubu..................... ...

mate anyone can do what you have done.
i think the team below is just as good, if not better than yours :D



......................howard...................... .

neville..........yobo...lescott........baines


......................gatusso.................


.................cahill.......fabregas............ .....

....ronaldinho..............................arteta .......

.......................yakubu..................... ...

Ok Preacher but the names I have added to the squad are all realistic purchases, yours however are not!

Gattusso, Fabregas nor Ronaldinho would ever sign for Everton nor could any of them be afforded. The names I have mentioned however are all realistic buys for Liverpool.

Villa - A name linked with Liverpool for 2 years now he is, by his own admitance, a fan of Liverpool and has been to Anfield in recent seasons to watch certain games. He is the best friend of Pepe Reina and the Spanish players already at Anfield would help him settle easily!

Querisma - Again, heavily linked with Liverpool infact only last summer a £16m bid was turned down by Porto with the player stating that if a fee could be agreed, he would be willing to accept the move to Anfield! Another bid is widely expected in the summer!

Lahm - Another player to have been watched numerous times by the Liverpool scouting team but the purchase of him would be made more difficult because of the continued interest from Manchester Utd. Still, a move is possible if not likely!

Now Preach, if you want me to provide links to prove the things i've said are true, then I will. Could you provide a link to suggest that any of the players you have mentioned would be even remotely interested in a move to Goodison Park? I very much doubt it!

I'm not saying Liverpool will sign the players I have mentioned, but they are all posabilities. Rafa has already stated that the squad building is now complete and that it's now a case of adding a couple of top quality players each year to carry on improving, plus the odd signings of youth players spotted by the scouting department to secure the long term future of the club.

Here comes the "they would never sign for Liverpool" comments. Well, they said that about Torres, and look what happened there!

Yea I think you have got it right, for the last 200 years people have been saying that Chelsea have only recently overachieved :roll: .
In other words Nixon, Chelsea are not a big club and have only won major honours recently because a Russian with an endless amount of money decided he wanted a toy. When the Russian leaves, Chelsea will again be what they have been since football began, a mediocre club!

I like the look of Lahm but I'm a bit baffled as to why you'd want Quaresma. Babel is better, and quicker, which helps for a 4-3-3 (if that's what you're going for).

But even with those additions you cited, I still think Man Utd are a better side, with greater strength in depth.

I'm expecting Chelsea to make some big signings this summer too, and possibly have someone like Rijkaard at the helm.....

In other words Nixon, Chelsea are not a big club and have only won major honours recently because a Russian with an endless amount of money decided he wanted a toy. When the Russian leaves, Chelsea will again be what they have been since football began, a mediocre club!

I remember winning the fa cup in 1997, then again in 2000. I also remember winning the Cup winners cup in 1998 along with the league cup. We qualified for the champions cup a few times, beating you in the last game of the season to ensure we played and you didn't in Europe. All this in the recent history before Abramovich came along.

People often say the FA cup has been won by the big teams starting after 1995 when Everton won it, until to this year. How is this possible since as mentioned above we won it in 1997 and 2000. Surely people would say that 2000 was the last year a big team didn't win the FA cup if you were right.

I hear Spurs, Villa and Newcastle fans say that they a top club but they are under achieving. I hear Forest and Leeds fans say they they were once great clubd but they are underachieving. I hear Preston NE, Huddersfield and Blackpool fans say that they were once great sides. Where does Liverpool fit into this?

Since 1991 all I have heard is that Liverpool are underachieving in the league. You are not, you have just found your level; you can't under achieve for over 15 years in the league. You used to be a great club with style and dignity, just like Presten. Huddersfield, Blackpool used to be.

I remember winning the fa cup in 1997, then again in 2000. I also remember winning the Cup winners cup in 1998 along with the league cup. We qualified for the champions cup a few times, beating you in the last game of the season to ensure we played and you didn't in Europe. All this in the recent history before Abramovich came along.

People often say the FA cup has been won by the big teams starting after 1995 when Everton won it, until to this year. How is this possible since as mentioned above we won it in 1997 and 2000. Surely people would say that 2000 was the last year a big team didn't win the FA cup if you were right.

I hear Spurs, Villa and Newcastle fans say that they a top club but they are under achieving. I hear Forest and Leeds fans say they they were once great clubd but they are underachieving. I hear Preston NE, Huddersfield and Blackpool fans say that they were once great sides. Where does Liverpool fit into this?

Since 1991 all I have heard is that Liverpool are underachieving in the league. You are not, you have just found your level; you can't under achieve for over 15 years in the league. You used to be a great club with style and dignity, just like Presten. Huddersfield, Blackpool used to be.

Gotta agree with most of what u said mate,except that i dont think Villa are under achieving,i think they have found their level and they know it
And i dont think Liverpool have found their level,i do think they can go onto better things,they just need to be as Consistent as Arsenal,Man Utd and in some respects Chelsea
I Dont think whats happening away from the pitch helps matters at Anfield neither

Ok Preacher but the names I have added to the squad are all realistic purchases, yours however are not!

Gattusso, Fabregas nor Ronaldinho would ever sign for Everton nor could any of them be afforded. The names I have mentioned however are all realistic buys for Liverpool.

i think your over optimistic as too how much money you will have to spend. if you dont get in the champions league i can see a very limited budget. if you do i still reckon less than what you spent last summer. a player clearout is liverpools way to raise money. all well and good, it improves the first team but means the squad is smaller. seeing as you cant mount a serious challenge over the course of a season then that will only confound the problem!

i think your over optimistic as too how much money you will have to spend. if you dont get in the champions league i can see a very limited budget. if you do i still reckon less than what you spent last summer. a player clearout is liverpools way to raise money. all well and good, it improves the first team but means the squad is smaller. seeing as you cant mount a serious challenge over the course of a season then that will only confound the problem!

Depends on who they unload during next Transfer window and how much they recieve
Can See like of Alonso,Crouch,Kewell being flogged which should bring in around £20 mill
Gotta ask tho how far does £20 mill go in todays market and if the Yanks are still in charge will they be willing to pump in a few more millions,especially if Pool dont qualify for Champions League.

Depends on who they unload during next Transfer window and how much they recieve
Can See like of Alonso,Crouch,Kewell being flogged which should bring in around £20 mill.
Alonso won't go, but if he did, Liverpool would get between £15m - £20m for him. Don't forget, Liverpool paid £10m and that was before he was a regular International and world renowned. Real Madrid and Barcelona have both made enqueries recently and neither are short of pennies! Again, if you want me to provide a link regarding both clubs interest then I will!

Crouch, well in todays market Liverpool could expect around £8m - £10m. Liverpool paid £6m at a time when Crouch was a laughing stock. Many people couldn't believe that Rafa actually signed him but now Peter is a regular England International and his goalscoring at that level is second to none! Again, Liverpool would almost definetely make a profit on Peter Crouch!

Dirk Kuyt, well Liverpool may have to accept that were they to sell, a loss would have to be accepted. £10m was the price paid for Kuyt, at a time when he was banging goals in for fun. A price of around the £6m - £8m mark would probably be a fair price to a top team in a weaker league where again, he would score goals for fun!

With those three players sold, Liverpool could expect an income of around £35m, then with the sale of young and fringe players (who never get a game) you could add another £5m.

Roughly, Liverpool could have around the £40m mark before the Yanks have to even think about dipping there hands into their pockets and even then, the profits from a good CL run and the likely qualification to next years competition would probably pay for that!

Liverpool WILL sign a couple of major players in the summer........ I would even bet on it!

Alonso won't go, but if he did, Liverpool would get between £15m - £20m for him. Don't forget, Liverpool paid £10m and that was before he was a regular International and world renowned. Real Madrid and Barcelona have both made enqueries recently and neither are short of pennies! Again, if you want me to provide a link regarding both clubs interest then I will!

Crouch, well in todays market Liverpool could expect around £8m - £10m. Liverpool paid £6m at a time when Crouch was a laughing stock. Many people couldn't believe that Rafa actually signed him but now Peter is a regular England International and his goalscoring at that level is second to none! Again, Liverpool would almost definetely make a profit on Peter Crouch!

Dirk Kuyt, well Liverpool may have to accept that were they to sell, a loss would have to be accepted. £10m was the price paid for Kuyt, at a time when he was banging goals in for fun. A price of around the £6m - £8m mark would probably be a fair price to a top team in a weaker league where again, he would score goals for fun!

With those three players sold, Liverpool could expect an income of around £35m, then with the sale of young and fringe players (who never get a game) you could add another £5m.

Roughly, Liverpool could have around the £40m mark before the Yanks have to even think about dipping there hands into their pockets and even then, the profits from a good CL run and the likely qualification to next years competition would probably pay for that!

Liverpool WILL sign a couple of major players in the summer........ I would even bet on it!

Mate i never mentioned Kuyt,personally i dont believe they will get rid of him
Alonso IS on his way out after he refused to travel to Milan because his wife was having their child (personally i would have done the same) but no way will Raffa stand for that

Liverpool will be happy to take the 10 mill they paid for Alonso

Crouch 8 mill tops,and i agree what you say about him,i think he is class and deserves his chance ahead of Voronin and Kuyt but Rafa doesnt

The also rans in the Squad could be offloaded as freebies just to get them off the pay roll so i think ur £40 mill estimation is a bit wide of the mark,especially if the yanks decide to sell the players,pocket the money and run

especially if the yanks decide to sell the players,pocket the money and run
In which case DIC step in to take over the reigns at Anfield which means even more pocket money for Rafa to spend come May :D

And Alonso may well leave, it would be a shame as he is a quality player, which is why Liverpool would get way over the £10m that you are predicting. Mate, if Carrick, and players of the same quality, are worth £17m, Alonso has to be rated within the £18m - £20m bracket surely?

Crouch 8 mill tops,and i agree what you say about him,i think he is class and deserves his chance ahead of Voronin and Kuyt but Rafa doesnt
So why then, if you rate him so highly yourself, think that Liverpool would only get £8m for him?

Bent went to Spurs for £17m and I could go on giving examples of other strikers moving clubs for inflated fee's. Why should Crouch be any different? Liverpool won't let Crouch go cheap, honestly they won't!

So why then, if you rate him so highly yourself, think that Liverpool would only get £8m for him?

Bent went to Spurs for £17m and I could go on giving examples of other strikers moving clubs for inflated fee's. Why should Crouch be any different? Liverpool won't let Crouch go cheap, honestly they won't!

Bent was a freak transfer, going to a team who really wanted, away from a team who didn't need to sell him.

Crouch is a player that seems surplus to requirements, with this in mind why would anyone pay more than £8 million (and I don't think you will even get that) for him?

Players don't leave Liverpool for inflated fees, because if Liverpool wish to keep them they will.

However if Liverpool want players, they pay inflated prices..... Pennant and Crouch to name but 2.

Bent was a freak transfer, going to a team who really wanted, away from a team who didn't need to sell him.

Crouch is a player that seems surplus to requirements, with this in mind why would anyone pay more than £8 million (and I don't think you will even get that) for him?

Players don't leave Liverpool for inflated fees, because if Liverpool wish to keep them they will.

However if Liverpool want players, they pay inflated prices..... Pennant and Crouch to name but 2.
So your honestly saying that £6m for Crouch is inflated? Come off it Robbie.

Oh, and how much did Liverpool get for Sissoko again?

So your honestly saying that £6m for Crouch is inflated? Come off it Robbie.

At the time of purchase yes he was, he has now gone on to become I believe a £5 million player, however I believe you may be able to squeeze £6 million out of a team like newcastle.

Oh, and how much did Liverpool get for Sissoko again?

13 millions euros weren't it? Which is say er..... £8 million pound, but I do believe this to be approx his worth, maybe slightly more. The lad is a good young player and would suit most football teams in the world.

He is nearly as good as mascherano who you paid approx £17 million for (sorry will soon be paying for).... or do you believe Mascherano to be more than twice his worth?

At the time of purchase yes he was, he has now gone on to become I believe a £5 million player, however I believe you may be able to squeeze £6 million out of a team like newcastle.
So what you are saying is, Liverpool payed £6m for Crouch when he was known as nothing more than a very tall, decent player, but has now gone on to be a regular in the England squad (breaking goal records along the way), and untill this season a regular in the Liverpool side, scoring plenty of goals along the way (a hatrick against Arsenal amongst them) and you think he has gone down in valuation?

Your off your head Robbie!

He is nearly as good as mascherano who you paid approx £17 million for (sorry will soon be paying for).... or do you believe Mascherano to be more than twice his worth?
Mascherano is amongst the worlds best in his position! Yes, he is worth double of that of Sissoko!

So what you are saying is, Liverpool payed £6m for Crouch when he was known as nothing more than a very tall, decent player, but has now gone on to be a regular in the England squad (breaking goal records along the way), and untill this season a regular in the Liverpool side, scoring plenty of goals along the way (a hatrick against Arsenal amongst them) and you think he has gone down in valuation?

Your off your head Robbie!

No no no no, I'm saying he wasn't worth £6 million in the first place.... as I said in my previous post, you paid an INFLATED price.

Mascherano is amongst the worlds best in his position! Yes, he is worth double of that of Sissoko!

Erroneous my dear friend

So what you are saying is, Liverpool payed £6m for Crouch when he was known as nothing more than a very tall, decent player, but has now gone on to be a regular in the England squad (breaking goal records along the way), and untill this season a regular in the Liverpool side, scoring plenty of goals along the way (a hatrick against Arsenal amongst them) and you think he has gone down in valuation?

Your off your head Robbie!

Thats the reason Pool will prob only get around 8 mill for Crouchy Paul,hes a bit part player and 8 mill is a bloody good price for a player more used to gettin splinters in his backside than gettin his boots muddy

No no no no, I'm saying he wasn't worth £6 million in the first place.... as I said in my previous post, you paid an INFLATED price.
Maybe Rafa saw something in Crouch which made him believe that £6m wasn't an inflated price? He was proved correct aswell, so good business in my eyes!

Alonso IS on his way out after he refused to travel to Milan because his wife was having their child (personally i would have done the same) but no way will Raffa stand for that
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N159169080313-1620.htm
This should put pay to that Briggy. I don't think Rafa has a problem with Alonso staying with his wife whilst she is giving birth to be honest, and reading the above article, I am inclined to think that Alonso is quite happy at Liverpool also, so that's the end of that debate I guess!

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N159169080313-1620.htm
This should put pay to that Briggy. I don't think Rafa has a problem with Alonso staying with his wife whilst she is giving birth to be honest, and reading the above article, I am inclined to think that Alonso is quite happy at Liverpool also, so that's the end of that debate I guess!

Mate,thats what every player tells the press/personal or club websites wether happy or not,Alonso and Rafa fell out way before he had his nipper,Alonso stated that he was willing to travel to Milan after the birth but Rafa said no (and that wasnt on compassionate grounds)
The fact they won without him doesnt look good for Alonso
Hes just all the right things so he gets a transfer and a huge pay day
Hes Not a Happy Chappy Mate

Alonso and Rafa fell out way before he had his nipper,Alonso stated that he was willing to travel to Milan after the birth but Rafa said no (and that wasnt on compassionate grounds)
Show me prove of this statement then Briggy!

Show me prove of this statement then Briggy!

Jesus, calm down scouser,you on a 1 man crusade???
Will give mi bessie mate Gerrard and ask him to if he can drive Alonso down to Yours to prove mi point!!!
Alonsos missus is preggers
He wasnt in Squad to face Inter
Alonso isnt injured
Work it out Scouse lad......it aint hard!!!

"Calm Down Calm Down"

Jesus, calm down scouser,you on a 1 man crusade???
Will give mi bessie mate Gerrard and ask him to if he can drive Alonso down to Yours to prove mi point!!!
Alonsos missus is preggers
He wasnt in Squad to face Inter
Alonso isnt injured
Work it out Scouse lad......it aint hard!!!

"Calm Down Calm Down"

Not often I agree with Paul (mainly because he always has them liverpool tinted specs on and can't see anyone elses point of view about anything) but you need to collate all the info available to you.

Rafa said in the news the reason Alonso didn't go is because he wanted to attend the birth of his child (and rightly so) and would join up after. As there wasn't any definate answer as to when he would be able to join up with the squad he told him to stay at home.

I don't see the problem in this, the tie was pretty much sewn up anyways, it has saved Alonso for this weekend, and it gave someone else a chance to shine in Europe for 'pool.

But again a mountain of a molehill has been made from the papers and people like you.

Jesus, calm down scouser,you on a 1 man crusade???
Will give mi bessie mate Gerrard and ask him to if he can drive Alonso down to Yours to prove mi point!!!
Alonsos missus is preggers
He wasnt in Squad to face Inter
Alonso isnt injured
Work it out Scouse lad......it aint hard
Alonso played today and had a great game. No problem with him and Rafa at all. Alonso won't be leaving.

I worked it out, and your right, it wasn't hard, but you still got it wrong! What does that tell ya..... lad?

Not often I agree with Paul (mainly because he always has them liverpool tinted specs on and can't see anyone elses point of view about anything) but you need to collate all the info available to you.

Rafa said in the news the reason Alonso didn't go is because he wanted to attend the birth of his child (and rightly so) and would join up after. As there wasn't any definate answer as to when he would be able to join up with the squad he told him to stay at home.

I don't see the problem in this, the tie was pretty much sewn up anyways, it has saved Alonso for this weekend, and it gave someone else a chance to shine in Europe for 'pool.

But again a mountain of a molehill has been made from the papers and people like you.
Cheers Robbie!

Oh, and I never wear tinted glasses :cool:

:hihi: Ok, maybe sometimes I do :D

Fulham 1 0 Everton

:o Well I never :D

Bad result for Everton that.

I thought Liverpool would clinch 4th anyway, but didn't expect to see Everton losing to teams like Fulham.

Has Preacherman gone on his hols? :D

Still fancy Everton over 'Pool. Fixtures from now on are.
Everton:- West Ham home, Liverpool away (4th place decider), Derby home, Birmingham away, Chelsea home, Villa away, Arsenal away, Newcastle home.

Liverpool :- Man Utd away, Everton home then 3 Arsenal games in 7 days 2 of which are away (will be interesting to see how Rafa rotates ), Blackburn home, Fulham away, Birmingham away, Man City home, and Spurs away. Not nice to play last game away. Oh and if you get past Arsenal then there is the semis. Talk about pressure.

Bad result for Everton that.

I thought Liverpool would clinch 4th anyway, but didn't expect to see Everton losing to teams like Fulham.

Bit like Liverpool and Chelsea losing to teams like Barnsley. :rolleyes:

Bit like Liverpool and Chelsea losing to teams like Barnsley. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and Manchester Utd losing to teams like York and Wrexham.
It happens mate.
You could go back in time and do a list a mile long of teams that have lost to inferior opposition, and it will happen again in the future.

Anyway, stop bringing Liverpool into it. I've still got my tinted glasses on ya know :hihi:

Still fancy Everton over 'Pool. Fixtures from now on are.
Everton:- West Ham home, Liverpool away (4th place decider), Derby home, Birmingham away, Chelsea home, Villa away, Arsenal away, Newcastle home.

Liverpool :- Man Utd away, Everton home then 3 Arsenal games in 7 days 2 of which are away (will be interesting to see how Rafa rotates ), Blackburn home, Fulham away, Birmingham away, Man City home, and Spurs away. Not nice to play last game away..
And if Liverpool don't get fourth from the fixtures you have produced, i'll print a picture of my arse and post it on every section of this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bit like Liverpool and Chelsea losing to teams like Barnsley. :rolleyes:

Well not quite. Everton losing to Fulham means they are now pushing for 5th place at most.

Liverpool went out of the FA Cup still with 4th to play for and the Champions League.

And if Liverpool don't get fourth from the fixtures you have produced, i'll print a picture of my arse and post it on every section of this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Liverpool don't finish 4th I'll kill myself.

If Liverpool don't finish 4th I'll kill myself.
:hihi: That might be going just a tad too far mate :hihi:

And if Liverpool don't get fourth from the fixtures you have produced, i'll print a picture of my arse and post it on every section of this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope you wax it 1st, being Scottish I've seen enough hairy arses at weddings and such like to last me a lifetime.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Slight set back tonight but I reckon Chelsea are set up now to take 2nd place. Good match for fans though tonight!

Slight set back tonight but I reckon Chelsea are set up now to take 2nd place. Good match for fans though tonight!
If Chelsea are still in the title race, then so are Liverpool :D

Hope you wax it 1st, being Scottish I've seen enough hairy arses at weddings and such like to last me a lifetime.:hihi::hihi::hihi:
I'm hoping a wax won't be needed, but if it is, then so be it :hihi:

If Chelsea are still in the title race, then so are Liverpool :D

If we are out of it then so are Arsenal, and it is no longer a title race. We only 2 points behind Arsenal.

Isn't there a Portuguese bloke hanging about looking for work, I'm sure he could tighten us up at the back.

If we are out of it then so are Arsenal, and it is no longer a title race. We only 2 points behind Arsenal.

Isn't there a Portuguese bloke hanging about looking for work, I'm sure he could tighten us up at the back.
Nah, he is waiting for the Liverpool job (when his English ban expires) I would have thought that was obvious!

:D

Nah, he is waiting for the Liverpool job (when his English ban expires) I would have thought that was obvious!

:D

He is quoted as saying it will take him ages to learn the language that they speak in Liverpool. :hihi:

I heard he has a large Beatles collection on cd. ;) Rumour has it he might have to learn Geordie.

Well not quite. Everton losing to Fulham means they are now pushing for 5th place at most.


How are they?

How are they?

Everton have to play Arsenal and Liverpool away, and Chelsea also at home. Liverpool also have a difficult run-in but at this stage of the season, the difference in class is beginning to show.

I think it's going to take a spectacular cock-up on Liverpool's behalf for Everton to close the distance.

He is quoted as saying it will take him ages to learn the language that they speak in Liverpool. :hihi:
He'll get used to it. Then again, maybe that is why he left Chelsea, because he couldn't fit in or get to grips with all the pompus, tuxido wearing prats down south? :D

1: Man Utd
2: Arsenal
3: Chelsea
4: Liverpool

Everton have to play Arsenal and Liverpool away, and Chelsea also at home. Liverpool also have a difficult run-in but at this stage of the season, the difference in class is beginning to show.

I think it's going to take a spectacular cock-up on Liverpool's behalf for Everton to close the distance.

You seem to forget that Liverpool have to play Arsenal 3 times in 7 days after the Merseyside Derby.

1: Man Utd
2: Arsenal
3: Chelsea
4: Liverpool

Think you will find that Chelsea will finish above Arsenal.

Here is a spy hole look into the future, which could be a give away as to who gets 4th spot...


David Moyes is dithering over wether or not to bring on his new find, a young 19yr old from Kosovo, Everton are getting beat 2-0 in the semi-final of the EUFA cup. What the hell he can't do any worse so he sticks him on for the last 15 minutes. Within two minutes the lad falls over in the box and flukely nuts the ball in to make the score 2-1.
In another 5 minutes he scores a terrific overhead left footed screamer, Everton fans go wild. On 93 minutes just as the ref has his whistle to his mouth the lad hits a 30 yard drive that nearly breaks the back of the net it certainly brings the roof down for all the followers of the Toffees.
Everton are through to the final the stadium is bursting with joyous scousers going barmy.

Moyesy takes the lad to one side after all the interviews for the incredulous media are over and tells him 'that was great lad, you are an idol now, you are an Everton legend, you can have anything you want just name it'.
The lad says can I ring home?
'Of course you can', says the canny Scotsman, Moyesy grabs a phone and lets the lad call his Dad.
The lad tells his dad of his exploits, then remembers his manners and asks about the family.
Dad says well since you ask (obviously this bit is in Kosovan not scouse) we have a bit of bad news.
What is it, says the lad?
Your brother was shot by the police, this was shortly after the house was burgled, your sister was attacked outside the home and your mother is in hospital after being set on upon by thugs.

O my god says the lad,
but the father cuts in with
'I blame you'

What do you mean says the lad? The dad replies with


'Well it was you who brought us all to Liverpool.





apoligies if you have heard it before, but I just visited the family in Liverpool today and I thought it was a good un.

Think you will find that Chelsea will finish above Arsenal.

Chelsea 2 Arsenal 1 :banana::clap::banana::clap::headbang:

Didn't see the game but reports say Liverpool were totally outplayed by Man Utd, even before the sending off. Is that about right?

Reina was shocking and Macherano was just begging for his red card. Disappointed that Gerrard didn't have words with him earlier being captain and all. They put in some pretty hard tackles as well. Everton just might turn them over in the derby.

Everton have to play Arsenal and Liverpool away, and Chelsea also at home. Liverpool also have a difficult run-in but at this stage of the season, the difference in class is beginning to show.

No matter how it is sugar coated, Everton are still pushing for 4th, and have 5th as a minimum.

Everton have to play Arsenal and Liverpool away, and Chelsea also at home. Liverpool also have a difficult run-in but at this stage of the season, the difference in class is beginning to show.

I think it's going to take a spectacular cock-up on Liverpool's behalf for Everton to close the distance.

2 points in it, the fight for 4th is still going strong! if we lose on sunday then i might agree its over but not yet.

(sorry paul, had a house move to organise so aint been on much lately).

we missed a chance after your defeat to a superior man u. think our smaller squad is starting to wobble, by all accounts we had a lot of tired looking players against west ham.

game on the derby :D

Seems about right to me, if Everton win they are in with a good chance of 4th, if they lose then it would most likely be 5th

Well Preacher lad, today is the day when all of your false hopes are dashed :D

Speak after the game ok mate? :P

You didnt seem to want to talk last Sunday LFC!!

I think after Weds we might know if my 8 month old signature is proved correct.

P.S Long live the Rafalution.

You didnt seem to want to talk last Sunday LFC!!.
Nah, I was in too much of a foul mood Guddy :hihi:
I think after Weds we might know if my 8 month old signature is proved correct..
Don't bet on it. How many times have we all heard "Liverpool will lose against blah blah"? Only it hardly ever happens!
P.S Long live the Rafalution.
Exactly the same type of statement us 'pool' fans used to think when Fergie first took Utd to six potless seasons. The Utd fans wanted him sacked and held banners at matches to express their feelings for him. How things changed shortly after hey Guddy? You should bare that in mind!

Nah, I was in too much of a foul mood Guddy :hihi:

Don't bet on it. How many times have we all heard "Liverpool will lose against blah blah"? Only it hardly ever happens!

Exactly the same type of statement us 'pool' fans used to think when Fergie first took Utd to six potless seasons. The Utd fans wanted him sacked and held banners at matches to express their feelings for him. How things changed shortly after hey Guddy? You should bare that in mind!

6 potless seasons? Er, not quite.

In any case, we then went on to knock you scousers off your perch, didnt we?

It all looks sealed now with LFC scraping it at Anfield, but it's not over till the fat lady sings.

It all looks sealed now with LFC scraping it at Anfield, but it's not over till the fat lady sings.
Scraping it? Hardly. I've never seen such a one-sided derby. The fact that Liverpool eased off in the second half with the Arsenal game in mind, is the only reason Everton didn't get thumped yesterday!

Should/could have been 4 - 0 at half time. The difference in quality of the two sides was evident to all!

Anyone remember when Liverpool fans judged a season in which they finished league runners-up a failure? How times have changed now that scraping 4th place is seen as a successful campaign.....

Anyone remember when Liverpool fans judged a season in which they finished league runners-up a failure? How times have changed now that scraping 4th place is seen as a successful campaign.....
:hihi: And who see's it as a success exactly? :huh:

Your right about one thing though, times have changed! Clubs using only 14 - 15 players throughout a season. Players not costing a great deal. Agents. A club spending £400m over 4 seasons whilst another challenging club only spends £150m.

Football is a business now, not a sport. The times when one team dominated everything, year in year out as Liverpool did, are long gone. It's only people like you that think Liverpool should still be wiping the board season after season. The rest of us realise that when a handfull of other teams start to spend big money on the worlds best players, they will eventually catch up, and overtake for a period of time, which is exactly what has happened!

Scraping it? Hardly. I've never seen such a one-sided derby. The fact that Liverpool eased off in the second half with the Arsenal game in mind, is the only reason Everton didn't get thumped yesterday!

Should/could have been 4 - 0 at half time. The difference in quality of the two sides was evident to all!

Winning one nil especially as it was gifted by the Yak-at the -back, god only knows what he was doing there is hardly evidence of 'such a one sided derby'. Look at the stats, Liverpool did play better in the first half but the second half shows possession stats of 55/45 to the blues. I know we did not do too much with the ball, but that was Lpools game to stifel and frustrate with block defence tactics. The man of the match to me was Skrtel who stopped most of EFCs attacks.
It is hardly surprising that Everton were lacklustre, with the long list of injuries to a smaller squad, but as I have already mentioned; it is not over till the fat lady sings.

:hihi: And who see's it as a success exactly? :huh:

Your right about one thing though, times have changed! Clubs using only 14 - 15 players throughout a season. Players not costing a great deal. Agents. A club spending £400m over 4 seasons whilst another challenging club only spends £150m.

Football is a business now, not a sport. The times when one team dominated everything, year in year out as Liverpool did, are long gone. It's only people like you that think Liverpool should still be wiping the board season after season. The rest of us realise that when a handfull of other teams start to spend big money on the worlds best players, they will eventually catch up, and overtake for a period of time, which is exactly what has happened!

Maybe Liverpool have spent big but not wisely


If I remember correctly a few months ago I saw a post on a Livepool FC supporters forum that gave a comprehensive breakdown of the clubs that spent the most money on transfers over two periods. One over the 16 years the premiership has been in existence the other over the period of four years that Ambromovich has been throwing his money about.
Over both of these periods the biggest spenders were,

No 1 Chelsea By a long way
No 2 Liverpool
No 3 Manchester United

Followed by in no particular order Arsenal, Tottenham, Newcastle ,

Winning one nil especially as it was gifted by the Yak-at the -back, god only knows what he was doing there is hardly evidence of 'such a one sided derby'. Look at the stats, Liverpool did play better in the first half but the second half shows possession stats of 55/45 to the blues. I know we did not do too much with the ball, but that was Lpools game to stifel and frustrate with block defence tactics. The man of the match to me was Skrtel who stopped most of EFCs attacks.
It is hardly surprising that Everton were lacklustre, with the long list of injuries to a smaller squad, but as I have already mentioned; it is not over till the fat lady sings.
Oh come on, Liverpool could/should have been 4 up at half time. Then it was about the players saving their energy for wednesday's game against Arsenal, which is why the pressure on Everton subsided!

Come on admit it, Everton never ever threatened Liverpool. They could still be playing now and Everton wouldn't have scored!

Liverpool won one nil.
They played better than Everton no one can deny, but it was no drubbing it was a lacklustre game played out by two tired teams.
In most matches people point to 'we hit the bar, the post it was surely a penalty'
Man U put more chances away than other teams they score more goals and accumulate more points. We have all seen games when a team does all the attacking yet loses.
Man u are far better at the moment than Liverpool, Liverpool are slightly better than Everton at the moment, what counts are goals leading to points.
The 4th spot is most likely Liverpools but it is not over yet.

It all looks sealed now with LFC scraping it at Anfield, but it's not over till the fat lady sings.
It is now :D

Some people are on the pitch they think it is all over...

Well it probably is ... I will give you that
but she is not singing yet. :)

liverpool easy whats up with the chairman id get rid of him

Some people are on the pitch they think it is all over...

Well it probably is ... I will give you that
but she is not singing yet. :)
She has just walked past our house, singing from the top of her lungs!!!! :D

Concede it Bluenose, it will be another ten years before you lot can even think about coming above us ........ sorry, but it's true!

P.S. Has Preacherman died? :(

She has just walked past our house, singing from the top of her lungs!!!! :D

Concede it Bluenose, it will be another ten years before you lot can even think about coming above us ........ sorry, but it's true!

P.S. Has Preacherman died? :(

Whats with this ten years nonsense?
I know it is ten years since Liverpool won any domestic silverware, and another ten since they last won the title.

Everton may well get their act together next season, Liverpool may well get their owners sorted out in the next ten years, I don't know I am not mystic meg. One thing I do know is that in football you never know.

The fat lady may well be practising in your back yard, talking about backyards you never did come and help me shift those stepping stones in my back garden, sorry I digress; but she actually has not sang yet.
Look at Man U today they thought that they had it all wrapped up, but Blackburn has given Chelsea a glimmer.
Everton were washed out with too many top players missing against Chelsea on Thursday but Chelsea did not really impress as challengers for the title, but football is like that. Who is to say were the title is bound only Dr who actually.