Was just interested to see what we all think about people who complain about things such as TV programmes? I read an article about someone who complained about the content of a TV programme and my response was, well if you dont like it, switch it off!! There are bound to be other people who enjoy it and watch it, you cant please everyone but those who dont like it can switch off!

Also, i read another article about people complaining about the runway extensions at London airports, if they didnt like it, why buy a house near an airport?

Personally, I think these people have got too much time on their hands and nothing better to do!

Originally posted by youngmcgill
Was just interested to see what we all think about people who complain about things such as TV programmes? I read an article about someone who complained about the content of a TV programme and my response was, well if you dont like it, switch it off!! There are bound to be other people who enjoy it and watch it, you cant please everyone but those who dont like it can switch off!

Also, i read another article about people complaining about the runway extensions at London airports, if they didnt like it, why buy a house near an airport?

Personally, I think these people have got too much time on their hands and nothing better to do!

Do the people who complain about those who complain not have more time on their hands?

Originally posted by JonJParr
Do the people who complain about those who complain not have more time on their hands?

No, same with all the people who protest about the war, I reckon everyone who agrees with the war should also protest and makes those who protest against realise that there are also people who approve.

I can see your point about the Airport etc, but if you are complaining about poor service, or a poor product etc, then i would say go for it! If you are just complaning because you dont like something on tv then GET A LIFE! Unless its outrageous like Jerry Springer the Opera...or that thing on BBC1 the toher morning with the female dominatrix and the gay men having a twister "orgy"....in which case its different...am i making any sense?

Originally posted by youngmcgill
No, same with all the people who protest about the war, I reckon everyone who agrees with the war should also protest and makes those who protest against realise that there are also people who approve.

would you not feel a bit silly holding up a "Yay War!" banner? it is true though, all the protesters on the TV saying the whole country was behind them because 1 million had turned up to march... hmm and i thought there was a population of 60+million aswell?

Originally posted by Avalon
I can see your point about the Airport etc, but if you are complaining about poor service, or a poor product etc, then i would say go for it! If you are just complaning because you dont like something on tv then GET A LIFE! Unless its outrageous like Jerry Springer the Opera...or that thing on BBC1 the toher morning with the female dominatrix and the gay men having a twister "orgy"....in which case its different...am i making any sense?

a little... did you mean to complain about jerry pringer because you were offended, or because it may possibly be the worst drivel ever made??

Originally posted by theadore
a little... did you mean to complain about jerry pringer because you were offended, or because it may possibly be the worst drivel ever made??

I complained about Jerry Springer as i felt along with 20,000 others that such a program should not be broadcast, and yes i knew i would be offended by it.

It is true you cannot please everyone, but programs such as this do not please anyone, except a small minority. But that is off topic.

Originally posted by Avalon
I can see your point about the Airport etc, but if you are complaining about poor service, or a poor product etc, then i would say go for it! If you are just complaning because you dont like something on tv then GET A LIFE! Unless its outrageous like Jerry Springer the Opera...or that thing on BBC1 the toher morning with the female dominatrix and the gay men having a twister "orgy"....in which case its different...am i making any sense?

I agree and say if theres justification for complaining, ie bad service, faulty good etc... then fair play, but otherwise switch it off!

Originally posted by theadore
would you not feel a bit silly holding up a "Yay War!" banner? it is true though, all the protesters on the TV saying the whole country was behind them because 1 million had turned up to march... hmm and i thought there was a population of 60+million aswell?

I know, its silly to do so but just because 1 million people turned out, doesnt mean to say they represent the whole population! Fair play that there are people who didnt like it, but there are sure to be millions who approved and just didnt do anything about it or show it!

Originally posted by Avalon
I complained about Jerry Springer as i felt along with 20,000 others that such a program should not be broadcast, and yes i knew i would be offended by it.

It is true you cannot please everyone, but programs such as this do not please anyone, except a small minority. But that is off topic.

I think in some way thought it sort of comes back to the point of if you didnt like it, then dont watch it. I didnt see it so cant comment on its content, but similarly im not religious and cant stand songs of praise, i dont complain every when its on every sunday, i just switch it off! I wouldnt watch it as i dont agree with it or the whole religion thing so i dont watch it! You cant please everyone but the minority of people with certain interests still deserve to be acknowledged and demonstrate to the rest of the population that we are varied and we all have different interests.

Originally posted by Avalon
I complained about Jerry Springer as i felt along with 20,000 others that such a program should not be broadcast, and yes i knew i would be offended by it.

It is true you cannot please everyone, but programs such as this do not please anyone, except a small minority. But that is off topic.

A small minority!? :loopy: 20,000 out of the millions who watched the show is a small minority!
I found it to be a very funny p**s taking show that needed a very open mind and a warped sense of humour...

Anyway, back to topic. I think complaining in the majority of cases brings more good than harm, after all how else are customer service skills going to be improved! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by youngmcgill
No, same with all the people who protest about the war, I reckon everyone who agrees with the war should also protest and makes those who protest against realise that there are also people who approve.

A bit like when we had an anti protest protest at the protestors on Ec Road protesting about the mobile mast. To be fair it was 7am Sunday morning and we had been on all night, so it was more for fun than anything.

I did find their protest a bit annoying though as they were banging drums from about 5am and waking everyone in the area up. The only people they were protesting at were the contractors. Surely they could have had a nice chat with them instead of making loads of noise. I also found it funny that everyone of them seemed to be on their mobiles to other people.

With TV I say live and let live with the exceptions of:
If anything stated as truth in a non fiction context is actually a lie.
If the content is offensive in ways to vast amounts of the population.
Anything inappropriate shown before the watershed.

Regarding complaining, I think everyone should do it if what you are getting (food, clothes, furniture, service, or whatever) is not up to standard.
It's time the Uk forgot the 'put up and shut up' attitude and get rid of the 'neo American complain about everything' attitude and demanded simple high quality.

Originally posted by Zebra
With TV I say live and let live with the exceptions of:
If anything stated as truth in a non fiction context is actually a lie.
If the content is offensive in ways to vast amounts of the population.
Anything inappropriate shown before the watershed.

Regarding complaining, I think everyone should do it if what you are getting (food, clothes, furniture, service, or whatever) is not up to standard.
It's time the Uk forgot the 'put up and shut up' attitude and get rid of the 'neo American complain about everything' attitude and demanded simple high quality.

I agree with that, i agree that when it comes to products or poor quality, absolutely we should complain. But we live in an open free country so why should the views of a minority reflect on that of the majority. And yes, 20,000 is a minority when put in context of millions! All they had to do was switch over.

If no one complained this forum would be far less successful than it is!

would everyone stop complaining i really hate people that moan and complain about anything nothing etc etc blahblahblah


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A lot of people though moan and complain whilst sat in the pub and so aren't actually complaining to the right people. The city council probably get fed up of hearing my voice on the phone but if there's a problem I'd prefer to go to the people who might be able to sort it out. I'm going to a meeting next week with some council bods purely because I complained to the right people.
If I get bad service I tend to let the management of the business know about it and tell all my friends about the complaint and the outcome after having spoken to the bosses, if the bosses haven't been helpful then the business get's lots of bad free publicity. I even once argued my point with the manager of an electrical store whilst standing in front of customers, I was in the right and he was in the wrong and I was going to make surre I got a satisfactory outcome..... I did.

with regard to the" Jerry Springer Opera" complaints...
the bulk of the complaints were recieved before hand... before the programme had even been broadcast.

I watchded it, and "I didn't think much to it", was my overall response, but I didn't gfind it "offensive".

I think that the folk who made a fuss about it, were jumping on a bandwagon. I remember a similar fuss over (I think it was a Fellini film,) "The last Temptation of Christ" most of the complaints were from folk who had not even sen the film.

Secondly, re the complaints about "Jerry Springer the Opera". i think that they should have complained to the manufacturers of their tv sets, rather.. because their tvs were obviously defective. (the "Off switch" doesnt work!)

If I dislike a programme (eg the soaps and most reality shows, like "I'm a celeb"/ "Big Brother", etc) I will either switch the telly off, or watch an alternative channel.

RE bad service in shops/ restaurants... I will point out when something is wrong. but, if something is good, and I have recieved good service from waiters/waitresses or shop assistants etc, I will also point this out to their superiors. I like to hand out Bouquets as well as brickbats. I like to give positive feedback, and not just focus on the negative.

PT

Originally posted by Avalon
I can see your point about the Airport etc, but if you are complaining about poor service, or a poor product etc, then i would say go for it! If you are just complaning because you dont like something on tv then GET A LIFE! Unless its outrageous like Jerry Springer the Opera...or that thing on BBC1 the toher morning with the female dominatrix and the gay men having a twister "orgy"....in which case its different...am i making any sense?

So Avalon, what you're saying here is if I complain about something I find offensive, then I need to get a life, but if you want to then that's justified?!? :huh: Smacks of double standards to me!

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
So Avalon, what you're saying here is if I complain about something I find offensive, then I need to get a life, but if you want to then that's justified?!? :huh: Smacks of double standards to me!

K x

No, what i am actually saying is that if you find something offensive then you SHOLD complain! But if you are complaining because of soemthing that is your rown fault like buying a house next door to an airport then thats when you should get a life becuase it your fault!

If you are complaining about poor service like a cold meal in a restaurant then you should also complain...but if you are just complaining that there is no sprinkle of parsely on top of your soup then thats just silly and you should learn to shut your mouth once in a while.

I once had a lady shout at me becuase the busses didnt run along her road!? How is this my fault!? :suspect: This is an example of someone who is just complaining for the sake of it....

Make sense?

A =)

EDIT: If you are complaining becuase you dont "like" Big Brother, or The Bill then dont watch it, but if you are complaining about a TV program that portrays Racism for example then i see that as different. One is a personal taste and the other is something which is moraly wrong, which is why i complained about Jerry Springer the opera, becuase it was a **** take of my religion which i feel very strongly about. I know others who have complained as they saw it as a **** take of their sexuality, and made sweeping generalisations about them.

Originally posted by Avalon
I complained about Jerry Springer as i felt along with 20,000 others that such a program should not be broadcast, and yes i knew i would be offended by it.

It is true you cannot please everyone, but programs such as this do not please anyone, except a small minority. But that is off topic.

Just me then who found it one of the funniest things on TV in a long while???? Nothing to do with the shroom delivery I'd had a couple of hours before tho....... :hihi:

Yes, this makes much better sense now! :D

K x