Listening to the Arsenal match on 5Live and Taylor recieved a red card for a foul on Eduardo . Eduardo's injury looked bad as Fabregas was urgently telling the physio to come on, with the rest of his team-mates looking shocked. It has took him 7 mins to leave the field. Apparently the injury is so bad they are not showing replays of it on tv. :gag:

It can't be worse than David Boost's shattered bone sticking through his sock in the Manchester United v Coventry game can it?

I remember Peter Schmiecal (sp?) running away from the incident in shock. I feel quesy thinking about it now.

I saw it on sky sports, they seem to be saying his leg has snapped and won't show it because its gory..

The BBC text commentary (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7258677.stm) suggests it was badly-timed rather than malicious - although, a tackle that badly-timed and that dangerous still warrants a red card.

It's often the tackles which are not intended to do serious damage, that cause it.

Broken leg is confirmed. Of course, that covers a multitude of sins, from a clean, straight-through fracture to a chunk of bone sticking out at right angles :gag:

The BBC text commentary (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7258677.stm) suggests it was badly-timed rather than malicious - although, a tackle that badly-timed and that dangerous still warrants a red card.

It's often the tackles which are not intended to do serious damage, that cause it.

One of the commentators seems to think that the tackle is high with his studs 'showing.'

Just listening to the match and it seems the injury is career threating"which most breaks can be".David Platt also said he didnt think it was a red card and the guy was sent of because of the damage to the guys leg.

For anyone that wants to see it:

www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1203772672438_618.jpg

Beware though - it is a bit grim :gag:

For anyone that wants to see it:

www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1203772672438_618.jpg

Beware though - it is a bit grim :gag:

No ta.

Sorry, but I have no desire to see this.

I heard McLeish saying that Taylor was distraught and that is what I 'd like to believe. My perception of Taylor is that he is a 'Gentle Giant' and having flown back from Dubai with him and Blackburn, I agree with McLeish that there is nothing malicious about the Geordie whatsoever.
That said, I don't think he is a very good player, often very ponderous and awkward, and looked very uncomfortable when he joined Birmingham and played in the Championship. Consequently, the challenge was more likely to be late and cumbersome but he is a genuinely decent bloke.
I have seen it again and was unable to decide as it seemed to be on the blind side but from Taylor's reaction he was very upset. It was so early in the game for there to be any ill-feeling. I wish Eduardo a speedy recovery but hope Martin Taylor isn't pilloried at all. He, right now, will be feeling very sick.

Ive seen the pictures on various websites. Awful injury.

. I wish Eduardo a speedy recovery but hope Martin Taylor isn't pilloried at all. He, right now, will be feeling very sick.

Wenger has come out and said that Taylor should never be allowed to play football again.

Wenger has come out and said that Taylor should never be allowed to play football again.

Looking at replays and the picture here, it doesn't look like there was malice involved.

Wenger would say things like that though.

Looking at replays and the picture here, it doesn't look like there was malice involved.

Wenger would say things like that though.

I'm surprised that he actually saw something that happened on a football field.

Haven't seen it yet, my brother said it is on you tube. Can't say I want to see it - a real shame though, he is a young and very talented player.

It can't be worse than David Boost's shattered bone sticking through his sock in the Manchester United v Coventry game can it?

I remember Peter Schmiecal (sp?) running away from the incident in shock. I feel quesy thinking about it now.

Possibly not, but it's not too far off having seen some pictures. As I recall, Schmeichel actually threw up behind the net after Busst's leg was shattered. Lest it be forgotten, the injury which Luc Nilis suffered just after joining Villa was absolutely horrific as well.

They said on the radio it is a triple break, sounds (and looks, I peeked :gag:) really bad.

He'll be lucky if he ever plays again poor bloke

Looking at replays and the picture here, it doesn't look like there was malice involved.

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:huh:


I hope you don’t play football, since when did a two footed tackle become part of the game, from one angle he seems to play the ball, from another angle it’s a clear scythe and le breaker.

They said on the radio it is a triple break, sounds (and looks, I peeked :gag:) really bad.

Try youtube, the foot is at 45 degrees to the leg, look at the shock on the other players faces.

:huh:


I hope you don’t play football, since when did a two footed tackle become part of the game, from one angle he seems to play the ball, from another angle it’s a clear scythe and le breaker.

On the still I've seen, it's not a two footed challenge.

Try youtube, the foot is at 45 degrees to the leg, look at the shock on the other players faces.

errr, don't wanna :|

On the still I've seen, it's not a two footed challenge.

Its bad what ever you want to call it .

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=44388&sectionid=3510211

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TjA-p5zCPJ0

It was a bad tackle, and a red card. But i dont think the intent was there and tbh i see the same tackle every week in the premiership but the difference is that it doesn't always connect like that. He'll be out till Xmas i'd say looking at that..

seen it on "match of day" omg its a bad one!!! i hope he fully recovers from it!!

Its bad what ever you want to call it .

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=44388&sectionid=3510211

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TjA-p5zCPJ0

Oh aye, it's a horrrific injury, but it wasn't malicious. As Chairboy says, I'll bet Taylor feels truly terrible tonight.

It can't be worse than David Boost's shattered bone sticking through his sock in the Manchester United v Coventry game can it?

I remember Peter Schmiecal (sp?) running away from the incident in shock. I feel quesy thinking about it now.

Hahah! I was there for that incident and I loved it!! (Kind of incensitive I know but hell, I was young!)

Eduardo suffered an injury similar to that and it's left his career, like his ankle, in pieces. Oh well, I think Taylor was very unlucky, in his challenge. You could see on the replay that it wasn't intentional at all and he must have just struck the wrong spot on Eduardo.

-Michael

Thankfully Wenger has retracted his statement about Taylor never playing again. There wasn't any intent, Taylor was watching the ball, went for it, but was too slow. Eduardo was very, very unlucky, it looks as if his studs were locked into the ground giving his foot nowhere to go. I hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if that was a career ending injury.

From what I have heard on different news programmes, it looks like it's going to be. It's ashame but it happens.

-Michael

Hahah! I was there for that incident and I loved it!! (Kind of incensitive I know but hell, I was young!)
Young or not, and even with hindsight, that's not something I'd be inclined to share with folk.

Just seen the picture in the SM it looks bad,good luck to the kid,but Wenger is a first class prat.

Having seen the footage on MOTD, which thankfully omits the moment of impact, it was an unfortunate accident which warranted a red card simply for it being a late tackle. There was no intent, absolutely and as mentioned elsewhere, these tackles occur in many, many matches without incident.

The media might have been better to let the situation cool before asking Arsene for his comments which at least he's had the dignity to retract.

But at the opposite end of the scale, at least the game ended on an hilarious note with Cry Baby Gallas not only spitting his dummy out but throwing a tantrum and crying his poor little heart out because they failed to beat Birmingham after conceding a goal in the 95th minute.

If he's your captain, God help you all.

For all their great football, I think I'm beginning to detest Arsenal with their bad losers attitude.

The reason for this horrendous injury is that players know that if they get the ball 1st, regardless of what happens after the tackle then it is not a free kick and play continues. My point is that players will continue to go in with hard sliding tackles, which are usually not timed right and unskillful, knowing they have a 50% chance of getting the ball and usually no repercusions if they get the ball and still take the player out. How many times do we see a player get the ball 1st but cause injury with the follow through?
OK Taylor didn't mean to cause such an injury to Eduardo as Hunt didn't with Cech but it happened. I don't know what the solution is but I would lean more towards players learning more skill in their trade rather than brute force. A proper mechanic uses the correct socket and not a monkey wrench.
I think players should try to follow Nanis lead and learn a few skills. As for refs, they should take more note of the afermath of a "clean tackle" and apply a better decision rather than "he got the ball 1st so it's ok"
Players have to learn that there are other ways of getting the ball back other than a 50/50 sliding tackle.

The reason for this horrendous injury is that players know that if they get the ball 1st, regardless of what happens after the tackle then it is not a free kick and play continues.

Not according to FIFA. It's illegal under any circumstances to go in with your feet off the ground, whether you get the ball or not, and whether you get the player or not.

And how often does a sliding tackle happen with both feet on the ground and no studs showing? Read my full post properley, digest it and then make comments please.

MOTD showed it lastnight and it was bad- if looked at in slow motion, you would have to feel a little sicken.

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I hope you don’t play football, since when did a two footed tackle become part of the game, from one angle he seems to play the ball, from another angle it’s a clear scythe and le breaker.
Two footed? Have you seen a different tackle to me?

IMH I don't think it warranted a red card. It was just a mistimed tackle early on in the game, yellow card yes but not a red.

Two footed? Have you seen a different tackle to me?

IMH I don't think it warranted a red card. It was just a mistimed tackle early on in the game, yellow card yes but not a red.

Shall we call it a two footed lunge then, both feet of the floor, leading foot high with studs showing, there was never any chance of winning the ball in that “tackle”

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VBu8RrEzmMo&feature=related

Shall we call it a two footed lunge then, both feet of the floor, leading foot high with studs showing, there was never any chance of winning the ball in that “tackle”

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VBu8RrEzmMo&feature=related
I wouldn't say so, his other leg is tucked underneath him. he hasn't jumped in or anything. Its not a dangerous tackle at all, its just an unfortunate incident.

This is a two footed tackle!!

http://www.pafc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/6a/60/0,,10364~3367018,00.jpg

I wouldn't say so, his other leg is tucked underneath him. he hasn't jumped in or anything. Its not a dangerous tackle at all, its just an unfortunate incident.


Pretty much what I thought

and this!

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/02/24/SOCCER_Birmingham.html

In fact, Wenger was correct when he said the referee had a bad game. Apart from the sending off, there were three poor decisions - all three going Birmingham's way!

This is a two footed tackle!!



Were you as forgiving of the tackle that ended Whitehouse’s career?

Were you as forgiving of the tackle that ended Whitehouse’s career?

I was at Port Vale, and Ainsworth's assault was nothing like that tackle yesterday. Indeed Uwe Fuchs' attempt at GBH away at Middlesboghorror on Glyn Hodges was worse than yesterday's awful moment.

There is a marked difference here. In yesterday's incident, I don't believe there was any intent to injure a player; in the other two instances I've mentioned, in my opinion, there was.

Were you as forgiving of the tackle that ended Whitehouse’s career?
I've never seen that tackle so can't comment on whether there was any malice or not.

I was at Port Vale, and Ainsworth's assault was nothing like that tackle yesterday. Indeed Uwe Fuchs' attempt at GBH away at Middlesboghorror on Glyn Hodges was worse than yesterday's awful moment.

There is a marked difference here. In yesterday's incident, I don't believe there was any intent to injure a player; in the other two instances I've mentioned, in my opinion, there was.

I think that it was an extremely reckless tackle, as other people said I do not think that it was a malicious tackle. The question does have to be asked though, if other people acted in such a reckless manner ay their workplace which subsequently caused such a serious injury; what would happen?

I was at Port Vale, and Ainsworth's assault was nothing like that tackle yesterday. Indeed Uwe Fuchs' attempt at GBH away at Middlesboghorror on Glyn Hodges was worse than yesterday's awful moment.

There is a marked difference here. In yesterday's incident, I don't believe there was any intent to injure a player; in the other two instances I've mentioned, in my opinion, there was.

The wonderful thing about football is that everybody see things differently, scottishdude post 33 put it far better than I could.

"The reason for this horrendous injury is that players know that if they get the ball 1st, regardless of what happens after the tackle then it is not a free kick and play continues. My point is that players will continue to go in with hard sliding tackles, which are usually not timed right and unskillful, knowing they have a 50% chance of getting the ball and usually no repercusions if they get the ball and still take the player out. How many times do we see a player get the ball 1st but cause injury with the follow through?
OK Taylor didn't mean to cause such an injury to Eduardo as Hunt didn't with Cech but it happened. I don't know what the solution is but I would lean more towards players learning more skill in their trade rather than brute force. A proper mechanic uses the correct socket and not a monkey wrench.
I think players should try to follow Nanis lead and learn a few skills. As for refs, they should take more note of the afermath of a "clean tackle" and apply a better decision rather than "he got the ball 1st so it's ok"
Players have to learn that there are other ways of getting the ball back other than a 50/50 sliding tackle."__________________

The reason for this horrendous injury is that players know that if they get the ball 1st, regardless of what happens after the tackle then it is not a free kick and play continues. My point is that players will continue to go in with hard sliding tackles, which are usually not timed right and unskillful, knowing they have a 50% chance of getting the ball and usually no repercusions if they get the ball and still take the player out. How many times do we see a player get the ball 1st but cause injury with the follow through?
OK Taylor didn't mean to cause such an injury to Eduardo as Hunt didn't with Cech but it happened. I don't know what the solution is but I would lean more towards players learning more skill in their trade rather than brute force. A proper mechanic uses the correct socket and not a monkey wrench.
I think players should try to follow Nanis lead and learn a few skills. As for refs, they should take more note of the afermath of a "clean tackle" and apply a better decision rather than "he got the ball 1st so it's ok"
Players have to learn that there are other ways of getting the ball back other than a 50/50 sliding tackle.

i think that is crazy! a sliding tackle is as skillfull as juggling the ball. it takes timing, bravery, strength and speed and is a vital tool in a defender/midfielders armoury.

why not make football a non contact sport then no injuries should ever happen? headers are dangerous, people can clash heads and suffer injuries, shall we ban them?

i cant believe this has even been suggested. people know the risks of playing footy when they go out on the field. i have had my fair share of injuries from tackles. i dislocated my knee in my teens from a 50/50 challenge, it didnt stop me going in for them.

football is a hard game and as such i object to trying to make it any softer than its become.

i think that is crazy! a sliding tackle is as skillfull as juggling the ball. it takes timing, bravery, strength and speed and is a vital tool in a defender/midfielders armoury.



"skillfull as juggling the ball" :huh:

A perfectly timed sliding tackle will win the ball without taking the player out then there is the lunge, feet high with studs showing and totally lacking in skill or timing.

I think it’s the latter that Scottishdude was referring to.:roll:

If eduardo had been sent off for his disgraceful challenge in the Cup tie v Utd (and that was a much worse tackle from behind with studs up compared to Taylor's tackle) then he d have missed this game.
Now that is truly ironic (last comment for alanis morrissette fans)