Most of Sheffield is, lets face it, a rundown ****hole after the collapse of the manufacturing industry. This decline has led to derelict buildings, factories, and houses in many areas of the city, other than the South West which remains as prosperous as ever, lined with trees and parks, Mercs and Porsches, big houses and wealth. 'The other half' as we shall affectionately refer to it consists of run down council estates, ridden with crime, as well as a variety of old factories, most of which are now derelict, and a town centre more befitting of a 3rd world country than the 4th biggest city in the worlds 4th richest country. So, I ask you, what do you associate most with 'the other half'?

If it's that bad here, why don't you **** off and go somewhere else?

Originally posted by t020
Most of Sheffield is, lets face it, a rundown ****hole after the collapse of the manufacturing industry. This decline has led to derelict buildings, factories, and houses in many areas of the city, other than the South West which remains as prosperous as ever, lined with trees and parks, Mercs and Porsches, big houses and wealth.

History lesson for you mate... where did the money to build the big houses come from? Most of it was made by Sheffield's manufacturing and engineering industries. Who made that possible? The people who live in "the other half" of the city.

So you've a lot to be grateful for.

Near me was where all the steel was made to make this fine city and no posts are made how bad this area is ;) must be just up that side of the city @ Ecclesall

Ahh revenge is sweet. You create a thread to **** me off, so I create one to **** you off. What goes around comes around really.

Tarquin! Go to bed this instant!

I've told you before, do not talk to the common people; you know it makes you all excited. Now go to the toilet first, we don't want anymore accidents do we?

HAHAHAHAHA how satisfying to know I can annoy people so much that they go to the effort of registering a new name especially for the occasion! How ironic that you all conspired against me by creating a thread with the sole purpose of trying to provoke a response from me, and I have so quickly turned the tables and watch it with laughter. Nice one!

ENOUGH all of you its getting silly now! HOW IMMATURE males are to create topics just to annoy one another. Why cant you act like civilised human beings and not get agitated just because someone has a different opinion. YOU have an opinion and so does someone else so if youre allowed one why arent they?

At the risk of sounding immature, and living up to your post kittykat, I can only say..... 'Its you who started it'.

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HAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

Who's behind the "t020's mother" alter? Own up! lol!

children calm down.... your as bad as the kiddies at work.....
behave or youll be getting a spanking!

s

Regarding the poll - I thought that in Sheffield - at least years ago - 'the other half' referred to one's wife or husband.

You missed that one!

Has someone spat his dummy and created a thread to attempt to [censored] off the other forum members!


Ah bless that small mind!

Originally posted by Andy
If it's that bad here, why don't you **** off and go somewhere else?

I actually did. I moved to Manchester where I find the quality of life so much better. I instantly got a good IT job after years of trying to get one in Sheffield. I pay cheaper home and motor insurance than I did in Sheffield, travel on a superior transport system in an area which has excellent and well maintained roads and have the pleasure of having a great time in a modern and clean city centre that is vibrant and, above all, clean. I also have lots of galleries, museums and sports facillities all at my disposal.

The drawback? I have to share it with Lancastrians!

But seriously, back in the mid 90's my friend made the move and just slagged off Sheffield. I thought he was just being a snob, but now I realise he was right. When I come back to visit friends and family, there seems nothing to be proud of here any more.

T020 is right in one respect, the town is a dump. But, it is wrong to blame the decline of the manufacturing industry. Most cities in the UK were founded on industry and they have *all* gone overseas. But, other cities have managed to regenerate so why can't Sheffield?

I love it how you lot create a thread intended to make me rise to the 'bait', and when I do the same back, you get all touchy and sensitive about it. There is one big conclusion I can draw from all of this and that is that we are all proud of where we live. At the end of the day, this fiasco started when I disputed Ecclesall Road being in Ecclesall because a murder happened there. *FACT*: Ecclesall Road is NOT in Ecclesall. Like any person, proud of the area in which they live, they aren't please when crimes associated with it, especially when the crime didn't even occur in the area in question. This annoyed me, as I'm sure it would annoy most people. Nasty rumours deter outsiders from the area. Despite it being a fact that Ecclesall Road is not in Ecclesall, some people took it upon themselves to belittle this fact and deliberately cause me annoyance. From then on, this rift has spiralled out of control into name calling and general unpleasantness, seemingly between myself and most of the rest of you. I for one am growing increasingly tired of this. There are certain facts within the argument, such as Ecclesall Road not being in Ecclesall (whether a good or bad thing, this is just a FACT), and Ecclesall being one of the countrys'. let alone Sheffields', least deprived areas, so as much as you like to slag it off in attempt to annoy me, all you're doing is tarnishing the reputation of a very nice area just because you have had a rift with one person. Like I said, I'm fed up with this whole rift and would like it to end.

Sounds like you're wisening up a bit, although I stress it is just a 'bit'. Again I see how you see the "other half" collectively by referring to us as "you lot" with regards to the creation of a thread. You seem to have this notion that its you against the forum, but I'm sure I speak for some members on the board and declare that such an assertion isn't the case.

I would also point out I for one didn't get touchy or sensitive about your thread, lets face it, it was hardly a shocking revelation was it.

The 'fiasco' as you describe it from my understanding did not only start from the Ecclesall Road / Ecclesall Area issue. As you can see from 'discussions' in the past ref: Sheffield Worst Area, there has been a similar unrest, which partners my conclusion that is, that it has taken you this long to appreciate that, and I quote

"There is one big conclusion I can draw from all of this and that is that we are all proud of where we live."

Surely this wasn't so hard to grasp from postings earlier by the "other half".

As I have pointed out previously, I don't envy anybody who lives in Ecclesall, as I know if we as a family so wished we are financially able to do so aswell if we really wanted that. Additionally, I have many friends from the S10/S11 and S17 affluent areas of Sheffield who are what you might describe as "very wealthy" but never have they ever downtalked other areas or the like, and they are the kind of people that if you met them on a day to day basis you would never know they live where they live and have what they have. They are genuine folk, working hard day to day to earn a good living (which they do well) and I have alot of respect for them.

If you think everybody in the affluent areas all have desk jobs, they don't. Many have to get their hands dirty at work aswell, and they appreciate the value of what they have worked hard for.

On a more realistic point, if there was a murder in Ecclesall, or Whirlow I can tell you with some certainty that it wouldn't affect the house prices too a massive degree, the reason being the area is very well established, highly desirable and the properties are indeed on the whole fairly spacious (usually over £300k band anyway). As I am sure I have pointed out before, if property prices all reflected what was said on forum board we would all be well and truly up ***** creek.

I for one would appreciate the end of these types of threads, and ideally seek better cooperation between residents of all areas so we can share ideas on tackling the problems that exist. That doesn't mean we shouldn't answer questions truthfully, but indeed there are teams working in certain areas that if direct to, a potential buyer or investor can get a thorough overview and then be left to decide for themselves the viability of any investment.

A good source of finding out investment in any area is to look at the Sheffield City Councils planning applications dept information, and see what the locals are doing to their properties in the area. See who is spending where, and to do what. It often gives a reasonable indication of whats happening in the locality.

Incidcentally you may see an application soon for 2 new 5 bedroom houses in Burngreave - I will invite you all to the laying of the first brick (of course engraved with "SheffieldForum.co.uk" if I am successful in obtaining the site!

1Man&HisBMW

Originally posted by t020
*FACT*: Ecclesall Road is NOT in Ecclesall.
Actually Ecclesall Road IS IN Ecclesall. It runs right through it!

Hence the name... Duh!

It just so happened the murder 'on' ecclesall road.. was at the sharrow end and not the Ecclesall bit.

So when you want to *FACT* something. At least make sure it *IS* a *FACT*.:lol:

Originally posted by sammie
.....
behave or youll be getting a spanking!

s

Now, why does that make me want to cause trouble! :lol:

1Man&HisBMW

Originally posted by t020
I love it how you lot create a thread intended to make me rise to the 'bait', and when I do the same back, you get all touchy and sensitive about it. There is one big conclusion I can draw from all of this and that is that we are all proud of where we live. At the end of the day, this fiasco started when I disputed Ecclesall Road being in Ecclesall because a murder happened there. *FACT*: Ecclesall Road is NOT in Ecclesall. Like any person, proud of the area in which they live, they aren't please when crimes associated with it, especially when the crime didn't even occur in the area in question. This annoyed me, as I'm sure it would annoy most people. Nasty rumours deter outsiders from the area. Despite it being a fact that Ecclesall Road is not in Ecclesall, some people took it upon themselves to belittle this fact and deliberately cause me annoyance. From then on, this rift has spiralled out of control into name calling and general unpleasantness, seemingly between myself and most of the rest of you. I for one am growing increasingly tired of this. There are certain facts within the argument, such as Ecclesall Road not being in Ecclesall (whether a good or bad thing, this is just a FACT), and Ecclesall being one of the countrys'. let alone Sheffields', least deprived areas, so as much as you like to slag it off in attempt to annoy me, all you're doing is tarnishing the reputation of a very nice area just because you have had a rift with one person. Like I said, I'm fed up with this whole rift and would like it to end.

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Originally posted by DaBouncer
Actually Ecclesall Road IS IN Ecclesall. It runs right through it!

Hence the name... Duh!



What about Derbyshire Lane in Norton, or Kent Road in Heeley. They're not in Derbyshire or Kent!

Seriously, I think we need to take a long hard look at this forum. Surely we should be working together and not bickering and fighting. Debate yes, by all means, but lets not start bringing peoples class and upbringing into it and making posts intended to cause personal argument.

This forum may be based in Sheffield and about Sheffield but it is available on the internet and that means it's available to the whole world.

If people type 'Sheffield' into a search engine and get this forum as a result and start to see all kinds of bickering and arguments, what kind of message is this going to portray to potential visitors?

Originally posted by t020
Like I said, I'm fed up with this whole rift and would like it to end.

Peace it is then, you coming to the forum meet t020?

I can be your bodyguard if you like!!!

Originally posted by alchresearch
What about Derbyshire Lane in Norton, or Kent Road in Heeley. They're not in Derbyshire or Kent!

Seriously, I think we need to take a long hard look at this forum. Surely we should be working together and not bickering and fighting. Debate yes, by all means, but lets not start bringing peoples class and upbringing into it and making posts intended to cause personal argument.

This forum may be based in Sheffield and about Sheffield but it is available on the internet and that means it's available to the whole world.

If people type 'Sheffield' into a search engine and get this forum as a result and start to see all kinds of bickering and arguments, what kind of message is this going to portray to potential visitors?
I dont care about those roads. The fact is that Ecclesall road in actually IN ecclesall. Just check multi map or an A-Z and it will show you!

It just happens to start somewhere else.

Jeez!

And because 1 or 2 threads happen to contain bickering doesn;t mean it will bring Sheffield into disrepute now does it.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if that causes bickering then its a fact of life.

The world isn't just rosie and sunshine. And judging by other forums I use. This one is extremely tame with few arguments.

NO DABOUNCER. Ecclesall Road SOUTH is in Ecclesall. Ecclesall Road leads to Ecclesall Road SOUTH. Ecclesall Road is NOT IN Ecclesall. Like you suggested, look in the A-Z. This confirms it. Ecclesall begins after Banner Cross, which is where Ecclesall Road becomes Ecclesall Road South. Why can't you just understand this?

For those that still don't understand the concept, I have taken the liberty of finding the map on multimap, so you can use the link below. Notice how Ecclesall doesn't start until Ecclesall Road becomes Ecclesall Road South, after the junction with Psalter lane. The link provided shows area names, zoom in another notch to see the road names and you will see this clearly for yourself. Also, notice that this point is about 1.5 - 2 miles from where any 'murder' took place, which happened near the old Wards Brewery, at the complete opposite end of Ecclesall Road where it enters the town centre. I'm fed up with disputing this so please, look for yourselves:

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=433000&Y=385000&width=500&height=300&client=public&gride=&gridn=&keepicon=false&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&scale=10000&out.x=7&out.y=7

When you reach the map, click where it says 'Ecclesall' with your mouse. This will zoom you in and show what roads are in Ecclesall. Notice the distinct LACK of Ecclesall ROAD, but the presence of Ecclesall Road SOUTH. After noting this point, feel free to SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT IT.

Ecclesall, the electoral ward, starts at Hunters Bar so, in this instance, DB is right that Ecclesall Road runs through Ecclesall.

Electoral Ward is NOT Area though. An electoral ward contains several areas. I thought that this was obvious. We were talking about AREAS not wards. If we are talking wards, then that means Whirlow, Greystones, Brincliffe, etc etc all = Ecclesall. This clearly was not the case.

Originally posted by max
Ecclesall, the electoral ward, starts at Hunters Bar so, in this instance, DB is right that Ecclesall Road runs through Ecclesall.
Ner Ner t020 :P

So it would seem that a certain P J Patel whose business premises are listed as:

434 Ecclesall Road
Ecclesall
Sheffield
S11 8XP

is in need of his own services.

http://www.nhs.uk/localnhsservices/opticians/return_optician.asp?id=3688

And, by the way, an electoral ward IS an area. I personally think that a section of Ecclesall Road IS a part of Ecclesall – to argue otherwise is akin to saying that a circumference is not part of a circle.

QED...?

Originally posted by Carlwarker
Regarding the poll - I thought that in Sheffield - at least years ago - 'the other half' referred to one's wife or husband.

You missed that one!
That's what I thought. However, I call him my better half.

You know what, I just came from another forum titled "Ecclesall Road is Not in Ecclesall" and it's funny that there are the same old arguments going on about the same subject. This one is just disguised as "the other half". Ha, we are back to the boring argument about where is Ecclesall? Ahhh poor T020. You really do "rise to the bait" as you put it. If you just left it alone and ignored the jabs about Ecclesall then everyone would eventually move on and leave you alone.

Originally posted by t020
Most of Sheffield is, lets face it, a rundown ****hole after the collapse of the manufacturing industry. This decline has led to derelict buildings, factories, and houses in many areas of the city, other than the South West which remains as prosperous as ever, lined with trees and parks, Mercs and Porsches, big houses and wealth. 'The other half' as we shall affectionately refer to it consists of run down council estates, ridden with crime, as well as a variety of old factories, most of which are now derelict, and a town centre more befitting of a 3rd world country than the 4th biggest city in the worlds 4th richest country. So, I ask you, what do you associate most with 'the other half'?
So what do you reckon about Tinsley and Attercliffe? They are now up and coming profitable areas which used to be run down with old factories, steel mills and closed down warehouses. Wasn't Meadow Hall and the Sheffield Arena built on in these former run down "s**t hole" areas as you put it nicely. No way can Sheffield be compared to a 3rd world country. Tut tut. You sad B*****d, would you like some cheese with your whine?

Has anyone checked out that Ecclesall Road South really does point South? :lol:

Originally posted by tinajones
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Shop at Wilkinsons, do you?

Originally posted by Abby
Shop at Wilkinsons, do you?

OMG! yes that is where i got it from! its really good for cheapo stuff innit. theres always a code 500 when i go in - its not me by the way!

Originally posted by t020
Most of Sheffield is, lets face it, a rundown ****hole after the collapse of the manufacturing industry. This decline has led to derelict buildings, factories, and houses in many areas of the city, other than the South West which remains as prosperous as ever, lined with trees and parks, Mercs and Porsches, big houses and wealth. 'The other half' as we shall affectionately refer to it consists of run down council estates, ridden with crime, as well as a variety of old factories, most of which are now derelict, and a town centre more befitting of a 3rd world country than the 4th biggest city in the worlds 4th richest country. So, I ask you, what do you associate most with 'the other half'?



It's always been the same in industrial Cities and it is no different now than it has always been, you cannot go from one extreme to the other without some disruption and derilict factories.

Originally posted by Funke88
So what do you reckon about Tinsley and Attercliffe? They are now up and coming profitable areas which used to be run down with old factories, steel mills and closed down warehouses. Wasn't Meadow Hall and the Sheffield Arena built on in these former run down "s**t hole" areas as you put it nicely. No way can Sheffield be compared to a 3rd world country. Tut tut. You sad B*****d, would you like some cheese with your whine?


What do I think about Tinsley and Attercliffe? Well, put it this way, I'd not live there if I was paid to. They're both ****holes with derelict buildings, graffitti, knocking shops, strip clubs, an ethnically.... DIVERSE population (which is a really good thing i think), boarded up windows, run down houses, etc etc.

Originally posted by t020
What do I think about Tinsley and Attercliffe? Well, put it this way, I'd not live there if I was paid to. They're both ****holes with derelict buildings, graffitti, knocking shops, strip clubs, an ethnically.... DIVERSE population (which is a really good thing i think), boarded up windows, run down houses, etc etc.

Maybe its the way I'm reading it, but do you mean its good that the ****hole as you describe it holds and ethnically diverse population?

1Man&HisBMW

Originally posted by t020
What do I think about Tinsley and Attercliffe? Well, put it this way, I'd not live there if I was paid to. They're both ****holes with derelict buildings, graffitti, knocking shops, strip clubs, an ethnically.... DIVERSE population (which is a really good thing i think), boarded up windows, run down houses, etc etc.

"Centertainment Park in Attercliffe, boasting the biggest cinema in the city, bowling, nightclubs, bars and restaurants"
Quote from a Sheffield web site that I found recently. I was looking for a good restaurant and the Boardwalk was suggested. What about the Sheffield Airport in Tinsley, and the Arena?
Seems to me that it may not be a place to live but definitely an up and coming area for jobs, new business and commercial property for rent.

Originally posted by t020
What do I think about Tinsley and Attercliffe? Well, put it this way, I'd not live there if I was paid to. They're both ****holes with derelict buildings, graffitti, knocking shops, strip clubs, an ethnically.... DIVERSE population (which is a really good thing i think), boarded up windows, run down houses, etc etc.

i guess you've never seen the teenage gangs smoking crack whilst listening to the wu-tang clan at the knowle lane bus terminus?!

are you the one who goes and cleans the graff off in your yellow marigolds at 7am the next morning?

Originally posted by tinajones
i guess you've never seen the teenage gangs smoking crack whilst listening to the wu-tang clan at the knowle lane bus terminus?!

That's where they went then. Before they built flats on the site of the old library there was always a problem of glue sniffers and drug takers in Weetwood Gardens.

Speaking of which, Weetwood Gardens was always a good source of sloes which made excellent sloe gin.

Originally posted by t020
At the risk of sounding immature, and living up to your post kittykat, I can only say..... 'Its you who started it'.

No t020 - it is you who started all this nonsense with the threads "Sheffields best area" and then the thread "Sheffields worst area".

I would have liked to have voted for something positive

This ballot is liking chosing between a rock and a hard place

Originally posted by Spacehopper
Max, this subject has been covered here........ ;) Where are good places to find sloes? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=3121&highlight=sloe)

Regards,

Spacehopper.

I knew that I just couldn't be ar*ed looking for the right thread and it was really just a post script to the bit about drugs in Weetwood Gardens.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
I dont care about those roads. The fact is that Ecclesall road in actually IN ecclesall. Just check multi map or an A-Z and it will show you!



No, no.

- Ecclesall Road: Is a long road full of shops and has a high density of students. This then becomes Ecclesall Road South at the junction of Psalter Lane (when you are sitting at the traffic lights you can see the VW garage), Psalter Ln. to your left. If you continue straight up that road you are in Ecclesall Road South (which I would call Banner Cross).

- Banner Cross: This is (in my book) the area for Ecclesall Road South and this is also the area where properties are very expensive - and rightly so; you pay these sort of prices - but there again you don't have any "riff-raff" living there, no silly boy-racers.
This is why I live in a decent area (Ranmoor).

This, I'm presuming is the area that t2, or whatever his/her name is.

Thanks!

Originally posted by Funke88
"Centertainment Park in Attercliffe, boasting the biggest cinema in the city, bowling, nightclubs, bars and restaurants"
Quote from a Sheffield web site that I found recently. I was looking for a good restaurant and the Boardwalk was suggested. What about the Sheffield Airport in Tinsley, and the Arena?
Seems to me that it may not be a place to live but definitely an up and coming area for jobs, new business and commercial property for rent.

Tinsley and Attercliffe are awful areas, IMO. Absoloutely dreadful places, and like t2, I would never live there.

Originally posted by John
Has anyone checked out that Ecclesall Road South really does point South? :lol:

Yes, it does - it points out towards the Peak District!

This thread is over a year old, ranmoorboy20.

Mods- Probably best to delete it, can't see anything productive coming from it.

GazB

Originally posted by GazB
This thread is over a year old, ranmoorboy20.

Mods- Probably best to delete it, can't see anything productive coming from it.

GazB

You'll probabally start to notice that I'll have strong opinions on things...

A year old (!?)
I'm one of those that searches, I don't really pay attention to dates...

Cheers

Originally posted by ranmoorboy20

I'm one of those that searches, I don't really pay attention to dates...



The mods on this forum will love you then :D

If it was up to them, there'd be just 1 MASSIVE post covering every topic! The less there is to administer, the happier they all are :P

(All said in jest, of course ;) )

Originally posted by GazB

Mods- Probably best to delete it, can't see anything productive coming from it.

GazB


Noooooooo. Don't delete it.
The t020sMother post is classic.

Nomme

First time I've seen this thread and have to say it has made me chuckle. :D

When I started reading it I didn't notice the date and thought that t020 had regressed.

Don't you all think that he is a much more moderate and 'nicer' person of late. :clap:

Originally posted by Mo

Don't you all think that he is a much more moderate and 'nicer' person of late. :clap:

It's called growing uo - most of use do it around the late teens ;)

Originally posted by Mo
First time I've seen this thread and have to say it has made me chuckle. :D

When I started reading it I didn't notice the date and thought that t020 had regressed.

Don't you all think that he is a much more moderate and 'nicer' person of late. :clap:

I hadn't read this before, made me laugh too.

I thought he was a bit more chilled of late. Don't think we'll be seeing much more of the reformed character for a while though, after his outburst in the chatroom... unless I am mistaken.

Originally posted by Snook
I hadn't read this before, made me laugh too.

I thought he was a bit more chilled of late. Don't think we'll be seeing much more of the reformed character for a while though, after his outburst in the chatroom... unless I am mistaken.

I don't think we'll be seeing much more of him full stop.

Alex

Originally posted by amhudson119
I don't think we'll be seeing much more of him full stop. Alex
That's a pity. I hoped he might explain how the historic Ecclesall Bierlow fits in relation to present day Eccclesall/Banner Cross!

Reading this thread was like watching the usual suspects, I never realised the date either and although T020's abit more chilled out now it means nothing much in the end.

wow!
i had never been on this site before never mind read this year old piece of c##p before!
it deffinatly was an eye opener to the crackpots that live in this city!!
i live in ecclesall and am proud of it (though a little less now that i've read some of the s##t this t020 guys been saying!!)
just want you to note that the guys at the bus terminus in ecclesall are relativly harmless even though they want to be as hard as those in pitsmoor!
and ecclesall road south goes through ecclesall but you are all really pathetic for nitpicking about that for so long!!
although psisnig this t020 guy off was probably worth it!

chat to you all one day-
thepurpleone x x x

Haha! Haven't read anything this funny in ages. :thumbsup:

Don't delete it! It's a piece of SheffieldForum history! Lol! :lol:

Originally posted by t020
I love it how you lot create a thread intended to make me rise to the 'bait', and when I do the same back, you get all touchy and sensitive about it. There is one big conclusion I can draw from all of this and that is that we are all proud of where we live. At the end of the day, this fiasco started when I disputed Ecclesall Road being in Ecclesall because a murder happened there. *FACT*: Ecclesall Road is NOT in Ecclesall. Like any person, proud of the area in which they live, they aren't please when crimes associated with it, especially when the crime didn't even occur in the area in question. This annoyed me, as I'm sure it would annoy most people. Nasty rumours deter outsiders from the area. Despite it being a fact that Ecclesall Road is not in Ecclesall, some people took it upon themselves to belittle this fact and deliberately cause me annoyance. From then on, this rift has spiralled out of control into name calling and general unpleasantness, seemingly between myself and most of the rest of you. I for one am growing increasingly tired of this. There are certain facts within the argument, such as Ecclesall Road not being in Ecclesall (whether a good or bad thing, this is just a FACT), and Ecclesall being one of the countrys'. let alone Sheffields', least deprived areas, so as much as you like to slag it off in attempt to annoy me, all you're doing is tarnishing the reputation of a very nice area just because you have had a rift with one person. Like I said, I'm fed up with this whole rift and would like it to end.

"Taquin aged 20 months" I suspect you are most annoyed that the murder might somehow have brought the reputation of your esteemed Eccleshall into question and thereby seriously risked the value of the big expensive house that no doubt your mummy and daddy own - dropping big time like a scared pigeons poop ...

housing crash ? bring it on I say .... and shut up the tarquins of this world (and crash the car too and get it off your profile...)

And sorry no you cant rubbish me for living in the north of city as I live in bohemian Nether Edge so there !

Originally posted by amhudson119
I don't think we'll be seeing much more of him full stop.

Alex

Well, he did make the big mistake of relying on the Daily Telegraph for his moral and spiritual guidance, didn't he?

And as that particular publication has shown itself to have about as much integrity as a knocking shop, I can understand if he's feeling a little overwhelmed ;)



I've just voted for crime ridden streets, by the way

Originally posted by amhudson119
I don't think we'll be seeing much more of him full stop.

Alex
Sounds like we won't be seeing more of you either alex, from your post on digital spy a day or so back:o
Bit surprised. Thanks for your help with the broadband.....