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greennigel
19-09-2003, 14:06
It has been announced that Britain is the capital of binge drinking in Europe.Does this have anything to do with our outdated licencing laws.It's about time they were brought in line with the rest of the EU.

Classic Rock
19-09-2003, 15:22
The Classic Rock Bar is proud to announce it sells beer to anyone wishing to binge drink. :lol:

Lindseyw
19-09-2003, 15:24
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Agent Dan
19-09-2003, 15:27
The problem is that they're thinking of Raising the legal age to 21 instead of relaxing the laws!! At least you can apply for an all night licence now although I've not heard of any councils handing them out!!

Belle
19-09-2003, 15:31
Who are they?

The primitive methodists?

The manufacturers of Coca-Cola?

The pub cleaners union?

Or just the salvation army?

I cannot believe this has been suggested as a government policy, not when it would make vast numbers of young voters very ****** off (great way to lose elections).

Do tell....xx

Hodge
19-09-2003, 15:38
This is one for Classic Rock - You may have already seen this, but if not:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/greedycow/pubs/hunters_bar/classicrockbar.shtml

Lickszz
19-09-2003, 15:45
The reason why this has been brought to light is because of the amount of money that is supposedly lost by businesses due to people been unfit to work the following day. I agree, the laws restrict drinkers to consuming large amounts of alcohol in a short period of time. I've also heard that it costs the NHS up to 1.7billion a year dealing with drink related injuries/illnesses. Perhaps next the idea will be to charge people that use A&E at hospitals for drink related injuries/illness.

Agent Dan
19-09-2003, 15:49
I believe it was an official government investigation, sponsored by moody beardy types who lack insight into the youthful mind.

"What these kids need is a strict dose of discipline" etc etc

DaBouncer
19-09-2003, 17:33
Originally posted by Spacehopper

Isn't it against the law to serve someone when they are drunk?
I beleive there ARE laws behind that yes.

AFAIK It is against the law for someone believed to be intoxicated to be on the premises of an establishment that sells alcohol.

Weird!

t020
19-09-2003, 22:20
The NHS will collapse a generation down the line when it has to handle the first batch of heavy binge drinkers with kidney failures and liver problems, waiting for transplants and other treatments. I read today that binge drinking in females has risen 70% since 1992. As a nation, 18-24 year olds binge drink 40% of times they drink, compared with 9% in France. Our culture now almost exclusively revolves around getting bladdered at the weekend, and I find that quite worrying.


PS. If the licence laws were changed so that pubs would open whenever they liked, people would simply binge drink even more often and consume even more alcohol.

Lickszz
20-09-2003, 09:15
Originally posted by t020
The NHS will collapse a generation down the line when it has to handle the first batch of heavy binge drinkers with kidney failures and liver problems, waiting for transplants and other treatments. I read today that binge drinking in females has risen 70% since 1992. As a nation, 18-24 year olds binge drink 40% of times they drink, compared with 9% in France. Our culture now almost exclusively revolves around getting bladdered at the weekend, and I find that quite worrying.


PS. If the licence laws were changed so that pubs would open whenever they liked, people would simply binge drink even more often and consume even more alcohol.

What about this point of view?

When the chancellor tells us that "booze cruises" cost us billions in lost revenue, then just how much does he collect in Excise duties and all the other taxes involved in drink and the ancillary entertainment services?

The chances are the amount he collects is more than sufficient to pay for the NHS.

So if you include the duty on tobacco as well?
Then smokers and drinkers have more than paid their way.

So perhaps those who over imbibe their pre-prandials can have first claim at the NHS alcoholic counselling.

Carlwarker
20-09-2003, 14:16
PS. If the licence laws were changed so that pubs would open whenever they liked, people would simply binge drink even more often and consume even more alcohol. [/B][/QUOTE]

If that were true, then it would be because of the psyche of today's youth. In more enlightened societies who have very liberal drinking laws, the evidence suggests the opposite.

I remember in the fifties when the pubs stopped serving at 10 pm, with a 10 min 'drinking-up' time, people would order far more drink than they could enjoy and then down it as fast as they could, simply because of the restrictive drink times.

t020
20-09-2003, 23:26
I agree, but we are not an 'enlightened society'. The fact is we are a nation of yobs and this is how most of our European neighbours see us too. You only need look at our city centres on weekend nights or the behaviour of our football 'fans' to understand why they would see us in this way.

halevan
21-09-2003, 10:18
Originally posted by greennigel
It has been announced that Britain is the capital of binge drinking in Europe.Does this have anything to do with our outdated licencing laws.It's about time they were brought in line with the rest of the EU.


Why are a lot of people obsessed with drink? what causes them to want to get sloshed all the time? they must be very weak characters to need a crutch to be able to cope with life.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 11:34
Originally posted by t020
The NHS will collapse a generation down the line when it has to handle the first batch of heavy binge drinkers with kidney failures and liver problems, waiting for transplants and other treatments. I read today that binge drinking in females has risen 70% since 1992. As a nation, 18-24 year olds binge drink 40% of times they drink, compared with 9% in France. Our culture now almost exclusively revolves around getting bladdered at the weekend, and I find that quite worrying.


i hardly think a couple of years of student type binge drinking will turn us into a nation of alcoholics. its alcoholics that end up needing treatments, not people who once partied too hard and have spent the rest of their years drinking in moderation.

i do agree that europeans are an example that we should follow, the french and spanish in particular are alot more sensible - their teenagers hang around the streets and go to all night parties but rarely need alcohol to enjoy themselves. maybe we brits do because its so fecking cold!!!

alchresearch
21-09-2003, 16:15
Originally posted by tinajones
i hardly think a couple of years of student type binge drinking will turn us into a nation of alcoholics. its alcoholics that end up needing treatments, not people who once partied too hard and have spent the rest of their years drinking in moderation.

i do agree that europeans are an example that we should follow, the french and spanish in particular are alot more sensible - their teenagers hang around the streets and go to all night parties but rarely need alcohol to enjoy themselves. maybe we brits do because its so fecking cold!!!

I don't think students were mentioned in T020's 'rant'. The fact is that drinking has increased and there is nothing to show that binge drinking amongst the young will suddenly stop in a couple of years time.

t020
21-09-2003, 16:46
Originally posted by halevan
Why are a lot of people obsessed with drink? what causes them to want to get sloshed all the time? they must be very weak characters to need a crutch to be able to cope with life.

I think an otherwise unhappy life from which they want to escape is to blame. People get out of their mind to escape the reality of their miserable, worthless lives.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 16:54
All I know is that when a drunk comes into my hospital department once im qualified i certainly wont be treating them with much respect - in fact if it wasnt against the job description i just wouldnt bother seeing them at all until id seen all the other patients. I think its pathetic how people drink so much and i particularly hate to hear people my age showing off about how drunk they got when all im thinking is well so what - is that meant to be good or are so proud of being a sad pathetic loser? what do you want a medal?

Whatever the costs sum up to - whether they pay more in tax that they take from the NHS i still think drinking is a stupid habit to get into and dont like to see people drunk.

I can go out and drink a nice fresh orange juice and get just as much 'pleasure' out of that that anything that will effect my mind.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:03
Originally posted by alchresearch
I don't think students were mentioned in T020's 'rant'. The fact is that drinking has increased and there is nothing to show that binge drinking amongst the young will suddenly stop in a couple of years time.

the age range of 18-24 is an average student age range. when they have full time jobs, responsibilities, mortgages etc i think their disposable income will be spent more wisely.
once their NUS cards have expired the 'cheap student drinks' and midweek clubbing and endless drinking partners will be no more.

looking at my peers, we no longer share a litre of gin before heading out into town (3 times a week) like we did at uni. so theres a shred of evidence for you.

t020
21-09-2003, 17:05
Originally posted by tinajones
the age range of 18-24 is an average student age range. when they have full time jobs, responsibilities, mortgages etc i think their disposable income will be spent more wisely.
once their NUS cards have expired the 'cheap student drinks' and midweek clubbing and endless drinking partners will be no more.

looking at my peers, we no longer share a litre of gin before heading out into town (3 times a week) like we did at uni. so theres a shred of evidence for you.

But when you hit middle age, will you and most of the generation be victims of ill health, e.g. liver, kidneys, etc, as a result of the heavy binge drinking that has been worse than at any other stage in history, especially amongst females. If so, the NHS will be expected to treat you, and hundreds of thousands like you, and as a result, may struggle under the pressure.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:09
Originally posted by t020
I think an otherwise unhappy life from which they want to escape is to blame. People get out of their mind to escape the reality of their miserable, worthless lives.

a bit harsh? its called letting go. forgetting work and your troubles. for instance, students in new environments find it easier to relax and make new friends by joining in in this debauchery.

aren't youngsters suposed to be on 'E' these days (thats ecstasy not the ecclesall vibe)
- isn't that more worrying, the unknown long term consequences? then again there was a report in last weeks observer saying the latest scaremongering scientific findings were made up.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:12
Originally posted by t020
But when you hit middle age, will you and most of the generation be victims of ill health, e.g. liver, kidneys, etc, as a result of the heavy binge drinking that has been worse than at any other stage in history, especially amongst females. If so, the NHS will be expected to treat you, and hundreds of thousands like you, and as a result, may struggle under the pressure.

and i suppose those 10 marlboro lights on a friday night down the park aged 14 for 6 months will give me lung cancer? i don't have an respiratory problems now so i don't think so.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:14
Originally posted by kittykat
All I know is that when a drunk comes into my hospital department once im qualified i certainly wont be treating them with much respect - in fact if it wasnt against the job description i just wouldnt bother seeing them at all until id seen all the other patients.

how professional of you. what if the underlying problems were stress, depression, a death in the family etc?

t020
21-09-2003, 17:14
Originally posted by tinajones
and i suppose those 10 marlboro lights on a friday night down the park aged 14 for 6 months will give me lung cancer? i don't have an respiratory problems now so i don't think so.

That isn't quite the same thing as sustained, heavy binge drinking over the course of several years now is it? Surely even you can see that?

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:21
Originally posted by t020
That isn't quite the same thing as sustained, heavy binge drinking over the course of several years now is it? Surely even you can see that?

yes, but my guess is that this binge drinking is also a phaze that lasts less than a couple of years? that is what i have experienced anyway.

t020
21-09-2003, 17:50
Originally posted by tinajones
yes, but my guess is that this binge drinking is also a phaze that lasts less than a couple of years? that is what i have experienced anyway.


People start drinking at about 16-17, and continue until at least the end of a 3- 4 year University course. Binge drinking therefore is sustained for about 6 years of a persons life. After this point, they will indeed begin to 'tone it down', spending money on other things such as setting up home. What I'm saying is that no one knows what effect this prolonged period of heavy binge drinking will have on peoples health and the NHS in about 20 years time when this current generation of binge drinkers hit middle age. Also, women are now drinking as heavily as men, and it is a FACT, not a sexist comment, that men and women are built differently and that alcohol could be more harmful to women than men. Again, time will tell. All I can say is that it is not looking too good for the NHS who will feel the pressure resulting from a new culture of exceedingly heavy, sustained drinking over several years, the likes of which have never been seen before (fact: we drink much more now than just a decade ago).

PS. I presume 'phaze' meant 'phase'? As the word count of both is equal, typing the word took you the same amount of time as it would have spelling it correctly. I can only assume your spelling is bad.

tinajones
21-09-2003, 17:57
Originally posted by t020

PS. I presume 'phaze' meant 'phase'? As the word count of both is equal, typing the word took you the same amount of time as it would have spelling it correctly. I can only assume your spelling is bad.

take a look at your keyboard: s is just above the z, it was a typo. now please stop being petty.

Carlwarker
21-09-2003, 18:43
Originally posted by kittykat
All I know is that when a drunk comes into my hospital department once im qualified i certainly wont be treating them with much respect ...

Then, with an attitude like that, you are in the wrong job. I was going to say 'profession', but with that outlook, you're certainly not professional.

alchresearch
21-09-2003, 18:50
Originally posted by Carlwarker
Then, with an attitude like that, you are in the wrong job. I was going to say 'profession', but with that outlook, you're certainly not professional.

All people who go to hospital get treated. Whether they get treated with respect or not depends on whether they deserve it. Drunks coming in every week with injuries as a result of too much booze and fighting do not deserve any respect, from hospital staff or anyone else.

If you visit your local A&E you will see signs everywhere saying that if you cause trouble while you are there, you will get thrown out.

Carlwarker
21-09-2003, 19:08
Originally posted by alchresearch
All people who go to hospital get treated. Whether they get treated with respect or not depends on whether they deserve it. Drunks coming in every week with injuries as a result of too much booze and fighting do not deserve any respect, from hospital staff or anyone else...

I

And I thought, silly me, that COMPASSION was a tenet of the medical and nursing professions.

Also, why do you equate drunks with violence - not all are - some people actually are happy drunks.

alchresearch
21-09-2003, 19:14
Originally posted by Carlwarker
And I thought, silly me, that COMPASSION was a tenet of the medical and nursing professions.

Also, why do you equate drunks with violence - not all are - some people actually are happy drunks.

But they aren't the ones coming into casualty on Saturday night, right Kittykat?

kittykat
21-09-2003, 19:28
Originally posted by Carlwarker
Then, with an attitude like that, you are in the wrong job. I was going to say 'profession', but with that outlook, you're certainly not professional.

Oh im sorry but how would you like it if you were alone doing nights and some young yob comes and has hurt himself in a fight from being too drunk. Id feel very vulnerable treating someone who is not themselves they could do anything. In the mean time there are genuinely ill people waiting to be seen. Also; dont sit there moaning at me wyou dont hen contribute in any way to the NHS. You should be pleased there are people like me who gives up a hell of a lot of time and (a lot) of money to train for a poorly paid job working all hours god sends. Im sorry if i dont really feel compassionate towards drunks its just, being a student and everything, the majority of people i see who go out and get drunk are indeed students and why do they do it? Cos its what everyone else does thats why so dont give me that CRAP about some people do it cos their pet sheep died and theyve gone into a deep depression over it. Yes of course some people do it to get over such tragic things but i am talking about drunken yobs who binge drink with friend and that is what this topic is about. When im qualified i will do my job professionally and to the best of my ability, but dont expect me to smile and make friendly chat with someone whos in through being careless and irresponsible.

t020
21-09-2003, 19:32
Originally posted by kittykat
Also; dont sit there moaning at me wyou dont hen contribute in any way to the NHS.

Taxes?

Other than that, I do understand that NHS staff are at risk from dangerous patients, especially during the night, and more should be done to protect them.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 19:35
I didnt mean in that way - anyway ill be paying taxes too and you only pay for what you get in return - ie healthcare. My point was all you do is moan about it whereas i'm giving up time to go and work for it and help people.

Carlwarker
21-09-2003, 20:08
I sympathise with anyone who has to treat a violent drunken lout - and I certainly have little respect for them (the louts). However, that doesn't mean I can't treat them respectfully - it's what a professional does. If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 20:18
dont get me wrong im not saying ill go around slagging them off and throwing them onto the beds like dead dogs im just saying i wont have the same friendly attitude as i will with other patients. Ive been to hospitals and noticed that staff sometimes arent as friendly as they could be and ive decided ill be as friendly and smily as i can be to make people feel welcome rather than a burden. Drunken yobs, however, will be dealt with in a more shall we say abrupt in and out again asap manner. Theyre lucky to get that if you ask me but there you go its my job to treat everyone not everyone i like.

Carlwarker
21-09-2003, 20:28
Now that's professional Kittykat!

I suspect, and I DO sympathise with you, that you've had a rough time at work recently and needed to 'cry' a little. Chin up - I'm sure that many of your 'patients' DO appreciate you and are grateful. It's odd that many of the most needed professions are the one's that are the most unappreciated.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 20:35
no ive not started yet im just getting myself motivated for when the time comes.

blackpool
21-09-2003, 21:19
Just read what you said about Falaraki - have you actually been there to justify your comments?

kittykat
21-09-2003, 21:20
no but ive been to magaluf - awful place. why?

t020
21-09-2003, 21:22
Originally posted by blackpool
Just read what you said about Falaraki - have you actually been there to justify your comments?

Most people haven't been to Iraq but plenty commented on the war. I fail to see your point here.

blackpool
21-09-2003, 21:22
Originally posted by kittykat
no but ive been to magaluf - awful place. why?

How can you possibly make comments about a place you've never visited? Or are you one of the ignorant people who only believe what the read in the press?

t020
21-09-2003, 21:25
Originally posted by blackpool
How can you possibly make comments about a place you've never visited? Or are you one of the ignorant people who only believe what the read in the press?

So you made no comments regarding the war in Iraq, for example?

kittykat
21-09-2003, 21:26
i cant remember making that comment it was too long enough ago for me to argue about - sorry!

blackpool
21-09-2003, 21:36
don't apologise for not having a poor memory. I would like you to know that Falaraki is NOT like it is reported in the media. I know, because I have been there. My daughter has been a rep there for two years and I can assure you that none of the reps who work for reputable companies take any 'backhanders'! They work damned hard to make sure all their clients have a fanastic and safe holiday.

I am from Blackpool, and have seen lots worse in the town every weekend.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 21:43
im sorry where did all this come from? we were talking about binge drinking and then about NHS....

blackpool
21-09-2003, 21:50
and your point is? You made comments about Falaraki......I'm answering you.

Unless you have been there, how can you comment? You can only reiterate what garbage has been printed by the press. I have been there four times in the last two years, with my family, and never witnessed one fight! All I've ever seen is people on holiday enjoying themselves, and I might add, behaving themselves a hell of a lot better than drunken yobs in this country do.

I find your comments about the reps offensive. Thanks to idiots like yourself, Falaraki is now dead. Reps are being sent home because mindless people have cancelled holidays without even bothering to find out what a beautiful country Greece is, and what hospitable people the Greeks are.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 21:52
please find this comment and paste it onto this topic and i cant remember making it

t020
21-09-2003, 21:55
With all due respect, your daughter has probably had 1 night stands with at least 50 different men, so drop the argument, I know what Falaraki is like thank you.

blackpool
21-09-2003, 22:01
I take your comment seriously and find you very sad. My daughter has not had one night stands thank you very much. And even if she had, I get the feeling you are one jealous, sad person. What's your problem - couldn't you find anyone who fancied you? What do you mean ' you know wot Falaraki's like'. Let me guess, you spent your nights out on Bar Street & Club Street - on your own?

blackpool
21-09-2003, 22:04
50 one night stands in two years? Give her credit!!!

t020
21-09-2003, 22:06
Originally posted by blackpool
I take your comment seriously and find you very sad. My daughter has not had one night stands thank you very much. And even if she had, I get the feeling you are one jealous, sad person. What's your problem - couldn't you find anyone who fancied you? What do you mean ' you know wot Falaraki's like'. Let me guess, you spent your nights out on Bar Street & Club Street - on your own?

I've not been, but I know people who have. The club reps are 'easy' apparently. This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

blackpool
21-09-2003, 22:09
Exactly my point - another one who hasn't even been there, but thinks they know everything! Get real! You really make me so mad making comments about something you don't even know. It's people like you who have given Falaraki a bad name. Hope you're pleased with yourself.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 22:15
its not people like us who prefer to stay away its the people who go there and get drunk and ruin the place. Dont deny it because we all KNOW people why people go i hear enough people talking about it and ive seen a similar sort of thing in magaluf.

blackpool
21-09-2003, 22:25
That's the difference - I've also been to Magaluf, so know what I'm talking about!

Your so-called mates who have told you these stories about Falaraki, probably had a miserable time, but felt they had to lie about the place so as not to lose face.

You are still missing my point - YOU HAVE NOT BEEN, SO CAN'T COMMENT!!!!

I can tell you exactly what it's like...I was there four weeks ago to celebrate my daughter's 21st. She (and other reps) were worried that if they did their job of escorting happy holidaymakers to a pub - they rsiked being put in jail! All thanks to the media hype back in England.

Go to Blackpool every weekend and witness the drunks and their behaviour there - how absurd that Blackpool police think they can help Falaraki police! It's the other way round. At least there's no fights in Falaraki.

Carlwarker
21-09-2003, 22:30
I've just read through the whole thread, and NOWHERE did Kittykat mention Falakari.

This thread is about 'binge drinking' as she said and although, I guess, that there is a very thin link, I suggest that you start a new thread Blackpool.

And, please, next time to be sure of your facts before you start laying into someone.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 22:50
thanks i thought i was losing my mind!

mr craig
21-09-2003, 23:04
if anyone actually wants to find out how many units they drink try this out:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/ccalcoh2.htm

tinajones
21-09-2003, 23:22
Originally posted by kittykat
dont get me wrong im not saying ill go around slagging them off and throwing them onto the beds like dead dogs im just saying i wont have the same friendly attitude as i will with other patients. Ive been to hospitals and noticed that staff sometimes arent as friendly as they could be and ive decided ill be as friendly and smily as i can be to make people feel welcome rather than a burden. Drunken yobs, however, will be dealt with in a more shall we say abrupt in and out again asap manner. Theyre lucky to get that if you ask me but there you go its my job to treat everyone not everyone i like.

and what about people who come in and are HIV positive? would you treat them as if its their fault for sleeping around or whatever other judgements you want to make? if so i hope people like you don't qualify until you can treat everyone with respect as human beings.

kittykat
21-09-2003, 23:43
Of course ill treat everyone as human beings you dont understand what im saying. Im saying if im faced with a drunken yob who is behaving as drunken yobs do and theyve been fighting or have toppled over or whatever i shall feel slightly angry at having to treat them before other people who have been waiting hours for something that isnt brought on by their own stupidity.

Surely most people would feel the same right???

I feel offended you think i would discriminate against people with HIV and if i felt this way i certainly wouldnt have gone into healthcare and it is all kinds of people with all kinds of problems i want to treat.

I will not treat ANYONE with anything but the utmost efficiency and to the best of my ability but there are some people who deserve this more than others and surely no-one can dispute that otherwise you are saying all human beings are good and worthy of respect when this is clearly not the case.

I did not say i would treat drunken yobs badly or let them know how i felt about their behaviour i just said i would not have as much respect for them as i would an innocent member of the public who isnt causing a scene and who isnt blind drunk beyond control.

Why or how people get into a situation that needs hospitalisation is none of my business really.

PS: Why am i even justifying myself to everyone?? Its none of your business! Itll be my job just like all youve got jobs and i bet youre not exactly super at your work are you! Make do with what you get and stop expecting healthcare workers to be supermen/women when we're only human beings and we can have opinions if we like.

PPS: the above still stands anyway

Zamo
22-09-2003, 10:45
KK, the point is that just because someone's had a drink it doesn't mean the injuries they have are "brought about by their own stupidity".

Three years ago I was at a wedding in Todmorden and after the reception I went with my brothers and few other relatives to the pub. I probably had 5 or 6 pints before leaving the pub with one of my brothers to find a cab to take us back to our hotel (not in Todmorden). As we walked around looking for a cab we were set upon by a gang of 10-20 youths who obviously thought it would be fun to kick the sh*te out of two blokes in suits for no reason. I have little memory of the attack but remember being taken to hospital by ambulance and then waiting hours to be seen. In the end we left untreated. I had a four inch "chunk" missing from my forehead, a broken finger, black-eyes, split lips, bruised ribs etc,etc and my brother had similar injuries including a broken nose.

I could be wrong but I have always felt that the nurses "looked down their noses" at us, assuming we were just another pair of p*ssed up idiots who had got into a fight and as such kept on bumping us further down the waiting list.

I know staff in the NHS have a tough time of it and it must be easy to become cynical but please try to keep an open mind - not all us drinkers are bad people!

Tony Ruscoe
22-09-2003, 12:17
OK... I've just read the whole topic and I think I can summarise...

I think what Kittykat is saying is that it's all about respect. She doesn't mean that she won't treat someone who's drunk. She's means that she doesn't want to attend to someone who's a "yob" and/or has no respect for the hospital staff. If someone's had a drink, but are still polite and respect her, I presume she'd have no problem with that person... is that a fair assumption kittykat? Even if their injuries are brought on by being drunk (i.e. fallen over and cut their face open) I think you should still treat them. (Otherwise, you should also refuse to see "clumsy" people!)

I think that's fair enough. Mutual respect is important whatever the job. Yes, people pay for the NHS through taxes, but that doesn't give you the right to be a total yob and disrespect the staff when you need treatment!

kittykat
22-09-2003, 12:41
Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
OK... I've just read the whole topic and I think I can summarise...

I think what Kittykat is saying is that it's all about respect. She doesn't mean that she won't treat someone who's drunk. She's means that she doesn't want to attend to someone who's a "yob" and/or has no respect for the hospital staff. If someone's had a drink, but are still polite and respect her, I presume she'd have no problem with that person... is that a fair assumption kittykat? Even if their injuries are brought on by being drunk (i.e. fallen over and cut their face open) I think you should still treat them. (Otherwise, you should also refuse to see "clumsy" people!)

I think that's fair enough. Mutual respect is important whatever the job. Yes, people pay for the NHS through taxes, but that doesn't give you the right to be a total yob and disrespect the staff when you need treatment!

agreed

tinajones
22-09-2003, 20:26
Originally posted by kittykat
agreed

Kool.

i think we all respect people who work for the emergency services esp when they are so badly paid. i know i could ever do it. i was goining to post a true story but i guess the topic is closed to i'll leave it!:P

sheffco
19-03-2004, 08:51
First - - - Do you agree??
I am watching TV - - - Listening to some of the ridiculous arguements - - - -- men drinking "Baileys" - - - - Big man?
Alcohol is a drug? - - - - better than some others.
Sit at home - - - - like smoking - - - anti social or what?
Any other freedom seekers out there?

The Meek shall inherit the earth
After the-doodlebugger.co.uk has finished with it! !

Cyclone
19-03-2004, 09:17
can you - - - form some proper sentences - - - make it easier to understand? what you say - - - please!

Lickszz
19-03-2004, 09:19
Threads merged.

Sam Miguel
19-03-2004, 10:23
Originally posted by Classic Rock
The Classic Rock Bar is proud to announce it sells beer to anyone wishing to binge drink. :lol:

That's comforting. The art of binge-drinking is still around.

Tony
19-03-2004, 11:15
Originally posted by Classic Rock
The Classic Rock Bar is proud to announce it sells beer to anyone wishing to binge drink. :lol:

CR, surely you know that under the terms of your license you are not allowed to serve alchohol to persons who are obviously already drunk! Shame on you. :nono:

DaBouncer
19-03-2004, 11:17
Originally posted by Tony
CR, surely you know that under the terms of your license you are not allowed to serve alchohol to persons who are obviously already drunk! Shame on you. :nono:
That is correct Tony.

It is an offence for an intoxicated individual to be on the premesis of an establishment which serves intoxicating drinks :loopy:

Talk about double standards!

sheffco
19-03-2004, 11:20
Hey Kids - - - -
I'm 63 Years Old - - - - -
I Invented - - booze cruises - - and wrecked Thailand in the 70's - - did the Philipines - - and Singapore - - South Africa too - - - Units per week? ? - - how about bottles? - - - Not talking about Students - - - - How about Serious Drinkers?

Tony
19-03-2004, 11:22
I'm sure that CR meant...

"The Classic Rock Bar is proud to announce that it will sell no more than 2 pints or measures to anyone that wishes to binge drink providing that they didn't have one before they walked in the door... unless its past 11pm - then its a private party" :D

halevan
19-03-2004, 15:57
Originally posted by greennigel
It has been announced that Britain is the capital of binge drinking in Europe.Does this have anything to do with our outdated licencing laws.It's about time they were brought in line with the rest of the EU.


Binge drinking has nothing to do with having a good time, TV showed girls collapsed in their own vomit and parylitic, how can that be a good time as they said!!!

raskel
20-03-2004, 14:21
binge drinking...is the best way! :nod:
i only go out to get drink with me mates.
i dont like having a few during week. if a want a social drink ill have a coke (a lot cheaper)
(student way!) :D