hi good ppl, just wanting to know where i can get my xbox chipped (upgraded)? i have had a quote for £125.00 which includes
- software upgrade
- harddrive 120 gb
- chip

help!

Hiya
we had our sons done and im sure it was only 60 ( includin the hardrive thing... )
ill check tho and let ya know, cos im not quite sure about this kinda thing

Litha

Any idea what chip it is? Xecuter 2.6 or 3? What other software are you getting? Will you get any Emulators/ROM's/Applications?

To get a 160gb HD fitted, software, and 2.6 chip would normally cost about £125 (including postage). This would include a load of emulators/ROMs/Applications/etc. And a couple of lights so you can se if the chip is switched on so it can still be used to Live play without banning.

So £125 for a 120gb is a bit expensive.

Is this to play pirate games or does "chipping" mean something else thesedays ?

Originally posted by nick2
Is this to play pirate games or does "chipping" mean something else thesedays ?

that and quite a few other functions as well.

You can use old emlators, use your Xbox to surf the internet, use it as a media player, music player, loads of interesting stuff.

It also has the capability to copy games to it's hard drive. But using this function is obviously the decision of the user...

The best place I know of is

Wired For Games
Telephone: 01709 529705
Address: 79a Kilnhurst Rd, Rawmarsh, Rotherham, S62 5QQ

They give you a three month warranty on the console that they chip and their prices are good too.

Very friendly guy in the shop and he seems to know what he's doing.

I looked all around Sheffield for a reliable chipping service for my old PS2 (back when it was legal to chip PS2 consoles, which it no longer is, but XBox concoles are legal to chip) and also for my mates XBoxes and this shop was definately the best we could find.

Normally does it while you wait and gives you a quick run through on all the features after this too.

actually chipping a ps2 is legal, it was production of the chip that was ruled to be illegal.

Originally posted by Cyclone
actually chipping a ps2 is legal, it was production of the chip that was ruled to be illegal. That's not the way I understood it, but I could be wrong.

Do you have a link or anything to back this up?

To add to this, try calling a few chipping places and asking about a PS2 being chipped, most won't do it because of the law.

Under the UK's implementation of the European Union Copyright Directive (EUCD), Europe's answer to the controversial US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it is illegal to bypass copy protection mechanisms. This would make me think that the use of a chipped PS2 would be illegal, not just the production of the chip.

The above quote would also make me think again about XBox chips.

Either way, I am sure it's illegal to sell PS2 mod chips in the UK under current law.

This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3915179.stm) BBC article pretty much confirms what I said.

The sale, possesion, use or advertising of PS2 mod chips is currently illegal under UK law.

Originally posted by gpsy
This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3915179.stm) BBC article pretty much confirms what I said.

The sale, possesion, use or advertising of PS2 mod chips is currently illegal under UK law.

nicely edited, it actually says

As well as declaring the sale of the mod chips illegal, Mr Laddie said that the use, advertising or possession of them for commercial purposes should be considered illegal too.



So i was largely correct in what i said, the production and sale of them is illegal, as is the use and ownership for commercial purposes

Back on topic a bit, Disc Direct at bottom of Moor did mine and two of my mates and we've not had any issues. Think it was £75 (no HDD upgrade, just chip, software and labour).

Originally posted by Cyclone
So i was largely correct in what i said, the production and sale of them is illegal, as is the use and ownership for commercial purposes Read my quote further up regarding the EUCD. That covers private users as well as comercial users, so the use of a PS2 mod chip is illegal in the UK.

Originally posted by hotphil
Back on topic a bit, Disc Direct at bottom of Moor did mine and two of my mates and we've not had any issues. Think it was £75 (no HDD upgrade, just chip, software and labour). I was put off by these people when the person behind the counter said "It comes in working , it goes out working", that's fair enough, but compaired to wired for games short warranty it's not much of an assurance.

Originally posted by gpsy
Read my quote further up regarding the EUCD. That covers private users as well as comercial users, so the use of a PS2 mod chip is illegal in the UK.

that's what the EUCD says, not what the judge said, which is what British law says.

Originally posted by Cyclone
that's what the EUCD says, not what the judge said, which is what British law says. The judge based his decision on the UK's implementation of the European Union Copyright Directive, which states that it is illegal to bypass copy protection mechanisms.

So how can that not be UK law??:confused:

I'm just going by what the judge said. He wouldn't specify "for commercial reasons" unless that's what he meant.

Originally posted by Cyclone
I'm just going by what the judge said. He wouldn't specify "for commercial reasons" unless that's what he meant. The Judge, in this case Mr Justice Laddie, did mention those points to be also illegal, but he didn't claim that the personal use was legal.

The UK implementation of the EUCD DOES state that it is illegal for personal use. There may be ways around this, but I have not looked in to it. (I do know that Italy and Spain are having loophole issues with their adaptation of the EUCD though). Just because a judge didn't mention this in his court doesn't mean the EUCD is altered.

(sorry everyone, we appear to have hijacked the thread here.)

lol, it makes for a more interesting topic though.

The EUCD is not a law, it's a directive. It's down to member states to implement it. The judge ruled that producing the chip was illegal, and went on to comment on the ownership and use, where he specified that commercial interests would render that illegal.
He was probably thinking about fair use issues and although his comments don't make the private use legal, it certainly seems to imply that.

If you can find a chip and have it fitted it is highly unlikely that any action would be taken against you or could succede if it was.

Originally posted by Cyclone
lol, it makes for a more interesting topic though.

The EUCD is not a law, it's a directive. It's down to member states to implement it. The judge ruled that producing the chip was illegal, and went on to comment on the ownership and use, where he specified that commercial interests would render that illegal.
He was probably thinking about fair use issues and although his comments don't make the private use legal, it certainly seems to imply that.

If you can find a chip and have it fitted it is highly unlikely that any action would be taken against you or could succede if it was. But the way that the EUCD has been implemented in the UK means that 'it is illegal to bypass copy protection mechanisms' which is what this chip does. This would therefore mean, or the way I understand it, that regardless of comercial or private use it would be illegal to bypass copy protection.

Although there aren't any cases that I am aware of where prosecution against a private individual for persoanl use of one of these chips has been sought, doesn't mean it's not currently illegal or that there won't be any in the future, although the costs involved and for what it would achieve, I doubt it's going to happen.

£75 sounds a bit steep if you ask me. The chips are easy to get hold of mail-order, and only cost £25-£30. In terms of labour, it depends how old your xbox is. The newest ones (6 months old or less) are a little harder than the older ones. But to be honest, it's not exactly rocket science either way.

I recommend you do it yourself

All you need is a small soldering iron, a reasonably steady hand, and a bit of patience. It took me about half an hour to do mine, which included a hard-drive upgrade. The software is a doddle to install - just burn the 'auto installer' onto a re-writeable CD (xbox won't read normal CDRs), pop it in, press the "whatever, just get on with it" button and bish-bosh, all sorted.


It's also possible to 'mod' an xbox without even opening it up, by using hacked save-games for a couple of older games, but a 'proper' chip is usually the most reliable choice.

Check out www.xbox-scene.com for loads of useful info and tutorials to get you started.

A modded XBox running XBox Media Centre is incredibly useful as a media centre - more flexible than those silly Windows Media Centre PCs, loads cheaper, easier to use, etc etc.

Originally posted by Speedy_Jim

It's also possible to 'mod' an xbox without even opening it up, by using hacked save-games for a couple of older games, but a 'proper' chip is usually the most reliable choice.


I softmodded mine.
It's easy-peasy if you have the bits and pieces to do it, and it *technically* doesn't void your warranty (you don't have to crack open the case).

Since I put XBox Media Center on it, my standalone DVD/DivX player is collecting dust.

& there are mod chips that are for using/installing Linux on an Xbox. As the intention wouldn't then be for copy protection circumvention, would this be an adequate loophole?

What can I say. The thought of using an Xbox as a Linux server & Windows XP as a glorified Xbox appeals to me...

I'd advise against modding it oneself. I know someone I would consider very technically competent who failed at it. Cue trip to town to buy new XBox. Not really a moneysaver.
Love my XBMC though, well worth doing, even links to iTunes on PC for playlists. Also worth putting a CAT5 cable in (streaming over wireless can be a bit dodgy). Seriously thinking of one for the bedroom - if, when XBox2 gets UK release, XBox prices drop, you could be looking at a fully functional media entertainment system for really not a lot of money.

I'd consider myself to be pretty competent with a soldering iron, but considered softmodding first as it's non-destructive if you follow the instructions and do your homework.
If I'd managed to screw up my XBox softmodding it I'd still have the option of chipping it.

thanks to those guys who replied to my qs-

cheers
jaff

Originally posted by LesMcQueen
Since I put XBox Media Center on it, my standalone DVD/DivX player is collecting dust. So's your PC with its not-yet-completed Half-Life 2 :D

lets get back to the original question shall we ??? lol...
i have just had my xbox chipped at pc medics on halifax road cost me £40 no hdd or emulators but you can start the console with or without the chip making it still usable on xbox live, and you get a years guarantee.
bargain i think.... :thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup:

The years garantee sounds good, what does it cover?
(any small print or is it a case of they fix / replace a knackered X box if problems arise?)

remember to get a switch added to it so you can turn the mod on and off , so you still be able to use xbox live

If I remember right.. there was a kid doing xbox/ps2 chipping at the don valley computer fair a couple of months ago.

Dunno if he is still there though- but the fair is on again this weekend I believe,so it might be worth a trot down there to take a look I reckon.

Originally posted by ANGELUS
If I remember right.. there was a kid doing xbox/ps2 chipping at the don valley computer fair a couple of months ago.

Dunno if he is still there though- but the fair is on again this weekend I believe,so it might be worth a trot down there to take a look I reckon.

I had mine done at Don Valley 18 months ago, Father and Son operation. Not seen them since though. Chip still works fine. I installed a bigger hard drive and software myself, it was a doddle.

I can arrange for it to be "soft-modded" (no chips) for £35.. Done for next day!

give pc medics a ring they will tell you all you need to know also you dont need a switch fitting its all done using the original switch

Im looking into chipping my ps2. Does anyone know any shops that chip ps2's? I actually want the flip top cover which I presume is not illegal to sell as you dont actually need a ps2 chip to play back-up games or copies. It would save me a lot of money because I can probably make my own ps2 games. Thanks in advance.

The flip top system often shortens the working life of the PS2 as far as I am aware.

Not sure of anyone that fits it in the area, but you could try the usual chipping shops that have been mentioned here as I am sure they could advise you further.

Remember that anything that allows the bypassing of the copyright system could be considered illegal under the change in the law, but I am not aware of any cases with the flip top lid system.

Ok thanks for the info. I will have to ring somewhere and ask about it. Most shops just cover there own backs by saying its for playing back-up copies of the games you own...yea right.