If there was a fight between killer bees and army ants who do you think would win?

I'm not sure myself... all I know is it would be one hell of a fight!

Bees I would guess. A bit like human war - those with the air power always do better. Maybe we could host a match Zamo... :lol:

I'd go for the ants myself.

Geoff - have you never seen flying ants?

Nomme

Would Michael Caine turn up to save the world, like he did in the Swarm?

I wonder whose side he would be on

Originally posted by nommedenet
I'd go for the ants myself.

Geoff - have you never seen flying ants?

Nomme
I just read the options and didn't see "flying" in his sentence :P

Originally posted by Geoff
I just read the options and didn't see "flying" in his sentence :P

True - but you made the assumption that the Bees could fly - why not the ants?

Nomme

No, army ants don't fly but then again bees can't drop bombs so I'm not sure the air supremacy argument holds water either. I suppose they could try stinging fly-passes but I'm not sure this is possible - it would take incredible flying precision.

The way I see it is like this... Killer bees may be bigger and stronger but army ants are bloody hard and there would be more of them. The question is can superior strength overcome superior numbers?

Debate on...

Originally posted by Zamo
No, army ants don't fly...
Busted Nomme - I win :lol:

Hmm, the bees would still win as the ants wouldn't be able plan their defence - the bees could fly around the ant's "frontline" and sting them from behind ;)

From http://allsands.com/Science/Animals/armyants_veg_gn.htm
(Emphasis is mine)

"The legendary army ants are confined mainly to the tropical regions of India, Africa and South America. In some cases they are found as far north as the Mississippi Valley and south to Patagonia. These ants are often more than one inch long, with such a distinct difference in the male, female and worker, that scientist have sometimes classified them as separate species. The queens are wingless, while the males are winged and more wasp like in appearance. The workers vary in appearance with some being very large with powerful jaws while others smaller. Unlike the more settled existence of other species of ants, the army ant lives a nomadic existence. They are constantly moving about in the forest and have no permanent nest."

Sorry I didn't realise you were talking about a population of army ants without any males. Duh. Silly me.

My money is still on the ants.

:lol:

Nomme

Fair point.

But if a bee's sting can kill a human, surely they would easily be able to kill an ant? What's the "reload" time for a bee though? If it's one sting per day then they might be a bit screwed...

PS. You can tell it's Friday 8)

Originally posted by Geoff
Busted Nomme - I win :lol:


Check your facts first. See my other post.

Originally posted by Geoff

Hmm, the bees would still win as the ants wouldn't be able plan their defence - the bees could fly around the ant's "frontline" and sting them from behind ;)

Your argument does not apply if both 'armies' have flight capabilty.

Next.

Nomme

Originally posted by Geoff
Fair point.

But if a bee's sting can kill a human, surely they would easily be able to kill an ant? What's the "reload" time for a bee though? If it's one sting per day then they might be a bit screwed...

PS. You can tell it's Friday 8)

Now your just being silly :lol:

Nomme

The other day while walking near a building site I saw a fight between a rat and a hedghog.






The hedgehog won on points!;)

Don't keep us in suspense... who won?

See the reply above

Originally posted by Geoff
Busted Nomme - I win :lol:

Hmm, the bees would still win as the ants wouldn't be able plan their defence - the bees could fly around the ant's "frontline" and sting them from behind ;)
I personally would have to give Ants the edge. They reproduce faster and dont die after they have attacked. Bees have just one shot, then they've blown it. Their forces would soon deplete leaving the Ants rulers!

Viva La Ants!

Originally posted by Zamo
If there was a fight between killer bees and army ants who do you think would win?

I'm not sure myself... all I know is it would be one hell of a fight!


My money would be-e (forgive the pun) on the ants.

I think the killer bees would win, until of course the human element gets involved and tries to modify them into stinging ants that can fly. Then were all in a mess.

having grown up abroad, 50 miles from a tropical jungle in deepest, darkest africa i can testify that the ants would win hands down.

there was an ant hill in our garden next to the furry banana plantation and i can tell ya - it looked like fun as a kid to climb but i wasn't so happy when i got molested by the inhabitants.

as for wu-tang killa bees - what are they all about?

The Wu-Tang Killa bees?

They represented the Wu-Tang Clans kung-fu style invasion on the hip-hop world back in the 90's. Whether they would beat the ants (Dead Prez) is another story. Although one smile from ODB's platinum encrusted teeth ought to scare even the most vicious insect, unless he was drunk of course.

TOP TIP for if you ever get surrounded by man-eating inch long ants (i have)

do not use water as a weapon - the first line of said ants will sacrifice themselves for the sake of the colony - they are used as stepping stones for the survival of the rest.

what you should do is place mealymeal (any other type of flour would probably suffice but thats what i used) on the floor as it acts as a 'fire' wall.

they are quite fascinating creatures when they aren't eating you! scavingers!