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honestjoe69
14-02-2008, 15:01
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7239464.stm


Quite a nice/fair article for a change!

Annoni_mouse
14-02-2008, 15:16
Pretty much backs up my own experience with this breed. I've never yet known an aggressive Staffy - if anything, they have all been as daft as a brush:)

The problem is, as the article rightly says, is that if someone buys a staffy as an status symbol, in all probabilty they will be raised to be aggressive by the unthinking owner.

gatecrasher3
14-02-2008, 15:40
Until we can change this kind of perception:

These dogs should be banned full stop. They are like walking around with a loaded gun. My puppy was attacked by one recently, a five-month-old cocker. Did the Staffy just bite? No! it bit and clamped on and would not let go. I had my hands in the Staffie's mouth but could not release its jaws from my puppy's leg, even with all my might. My hands were obviously cut and I have a vets bill for hundreds of pounds for repair to my dog's leg. They are dangerous. Even my vet is sick of treating other animals attacked by them. Who buys them? People who want to be hard. I don't need a dog for that..

They will continue to receive unjustified bad press. What the poster fails to mention is how the situation arose and where and who the SBT owner was at the time.

xxhunniixx
14-02-2008, 15:52
"They call them nanny dogs and that's because they're like babysitters. When Lucas is in the garden, Billy sits near him just watching."


this is what digger is like with jack my son he's a staffy x jack russel he sits on his bed while he watches tv sleeps on end of his bed jack wlks him to school in a morning we have just been banned from taking him on school yard but we can take our dalmatian!!!!!


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KATIEB_23
14-02-2008, 16:49
I think this is a good comment:
Like most things in this world - it comes down to intent; a screwdriver is a handy tool when you want it to be a tool... they can also be a vicious weapon when intended so. Staffies are wonderful, wonderful dogs. Naturally peaceful, watchful, intelligent and loving. One of the few dogs in the world that will sit there and have its ears tugged on by a child - and not react badly. A breed I look forward to having as part of my family again one day.

xxhunniixx
14-02-2008, 16:56
in my opinion it isnt the dog or breed thats the problem its the way they are brought up

rubydazzler
14-02-2008, 17:22
"we have just been banned from taking him on school yard but we can take our dalmatian!!!!!

I'm surprised you're allowed to take any dog into a school yard, no matter what the breed. At our local schools they aren't allowed in, after complaints from parents about fouling and boisterous behaviour.

Staffies were good companion dogs and with children but theres been so much indiscriminate breeding by people who have no idea what they're doing that the breed's gone downhill quite rapidly, temperament wise.

xxhunniixx
14-02-2008, 17:33
I'm surprised you're allowed to take any dog into a school yard, no matter what the breed. At our local schools they aren't allowed in, after complaints from parents about fouling and boisterous behaviour.


i can take lottie into theyard as she is ''cute'' we dnt go ino the school grounds much as my son takes himself from the gates just drives me mad minute someone sees the staff in digger they sh**t themselves

TattyBear
14-02-2008, 18:09
Until we can change this kind of perception:

These dogs should be banned full stop. They are like walking around with a loaded gun. My puppy was attacked by one recently, a five-month-old cocker. Did the Staffy just bite? No! it bit and clamped on and would not let go. I had my hands in the Staffie's mouth but could not release its jaws from my puppy's leg, even with all my might. My hands were obviously cut and I have a vets bill for hundreds of pounds for repair to my dog's leg. They are dangerous. Even my vet is sick of treating other animals attacked by them. Who buys them? People who want to be hard. I don't need a dog for that..

They will continue to receive unjustified bad press. What the poster fails to mention is how the situation arose and where and who the SBT owner was at the time.

If the staffy had is jaw clamped then you should have kicked it up the balls/arse. im being serious, its the only way they let go.

goldenbabe1966
14-02-2008, 18:14
in my opinion it isnt the dog or breed thats the problem its the way they are brought up

:clap::clap::clap:Here here:clap::clap:

wbua
14-02-2008, 18:43
Until we can change this kind of perception:

These dogs should be banned full stop. They are like walking around with a loaded gun. My puppy was attacked by one recently, a five-month-old cocker. Did the Staffy just bite? No! it bit and clamped on and would not let go. I had my hands in the Staffie's mouth but could not release its jaws from my puppy's leg, even with all my might. My hands were obviously cut and I have a vets bill for hundreds of pounds for repair to my dog's leg. They are dangerous. Even my vet is sick of treating other animals attacked by them. Who buys them? People who want to be hard. I don't need a dog for that..

They will continue to receive unjustified bad press. What the poster fails to mention is how the situation arose and where and who the SBT owner was at the time.


Not being funny but my EBT was attacked by two cocker spaniels resulting in a £340.00 vet bill
In my experience spaniels are as nasty as any breed and more so than most and that includes SBT.

wbua
14-02-2008, 18:46
If the staffy had is jaw clamped then you should have kicked it up the balls/arse. im being serious, its the only way they let go.

Use a piece of wood as a break stick or and I've never tried it you can poke something up the tradesmans entrance

scabby
14-02-2008, 19:25
I would like to say that there is no BREED of dog in this world that I think of as DANGEROUS. Its only the type of bloody people that are drawn to keeping these dogs that are dangerous. If the government brought back dog licences and made it a different price for different breeds of dog ie: 50 quid for poodles and 5000 quid for staffies and rottweilers and such like. Then people that were really interested in the breeds as pets would'nt mind paying, and the arseholes that want them just for 'lookin ard' could'nt afford them anyway. Dogs are a little bit like kids.. there not born evil its the way parents/owners make them. If a black/asian/chinese or white kid attacked someone you would'nt be allowed to brand that certain race as evil and dangerous so why are we branding a certain type of dog breed DANGEROUS just because some feckin idiot has gone out and bought one, has no experience with the breed and can't handle it in public???

goldenbabe1966
14-02-2008, 19:43
[QUOTE=scabby;3139567]I would like to say that there is no BREED of dog in this world that I think of as DANGEROUS. Its only the type of bloody people that are drawn to keeping these dogs that are dangerous. If the government brought back dog licences and made it a different price for different breeds of dog ie: 50 quid for poodles and 5000 quid for staffies and rottweilers and such like. Then people that were really interested in the breeds as pets would'nt mind paying, and the arseholes that want them just for 'lookin ard' could'nt afford them anyway. Dogs are a little bit like kids.. there not born evil its the way parents/owners make them. If a black/asian/chinese or white kid attacked someone you would'nt be allowed to brand that certain race as evil and dangerous so why are we branding a certain type of dog breed DANGEROUS just because some feckin idiot has gone out and bought one, has no experience with the breed and can't handle it in public???[/QUOTE
:huh::huh:That can't be right £5000 do'nt you like staffies an rotties :huh::huh:

wbua
14-02-2008, 19:45
There's a condition called Cocker Rage Syndrome or low-threshold aggression. It's still prevalent in this breed and is genetic.

"An affected dog attacks suddenly and savagely, without any warning and during the attack the dog often has a glazed look and appears to be unaware of its surroundings"

Now if this was a bull breed people would be asking for it to added to the DDA

scabby
14-02-2008, 20:13
goldenbabe1966...
I love all breeds of dog ( I have a Staffie X myself) :love: That was an example and not ment to be taken literally. (imagine should be in capitals.. but apparenty your not aloud to use them..meh)
What I ment was, that if there was a different price for owning different breeds of dogs and the only dog these doley scummy scanky hand jobbers could afford was a Chihuaua, don't you think they would think twice about having a dog at all???? :D

hope this comment dos'nt offend

goldenbabe1966
14-02-2008, 20:25
goldenbabe1966...
I love all breeds of dog ( I have a Staffie X myself) :love: That was an EXAMPLE and not ment to be taken literally.
What I ment was, that if there was a different price for owning different breeds of dogs and the only dog these doley scummy scanky feckin w@#$ers could afford was a Chihuaua, don't you think they would think twice about having a dog at all???? :D
:love:i have a staffy and he's lovely Scabby,got to stick up for my boy :hihi::hihi: :thumbsup:i do know what you mean but they'll probably find a way around it, like always :roll::roll:

angellic
14-02-2008, 21:37
goldenbabe1966...
I love all breeds of dog ( I have a Staffie X myself) :love: That was an EXAMPLE and not ment to be taken literally.
What I ment was, that if there was a different price for owning different breeds of dogs and the only dog these doley scummy scanky feckin w@#$ers could afford was a Chihuaua, don't you think they would think twice about having a dog at all???? :D

I own a staffy x and a rottweiler and i'm on benefits! Both my dogs are well trained, great with other dogs and everyone, they are both loving, amazing dogs, oh and both my dogs have been the victims of dog attacks and neither one has fought back, my staffy x nearly lost his ear to a another dog and my rottweiler is a big softie and very wary of other dogs due to vicious dogs, so am I a bad owner who doesn't deserve my dogs? :rant:

rocky1
14-02-2008, 21:57
i have 3 staffys , there just like children and they are brilliant dogs to have with children and other animals mine gets on with cats ,rabbits there just so loveble and have so mutch love to give

vikki
14-02-2008, 22:20
it is most people who dont understand the breed and that dont have a passion for the breed that that misunderstand it.

i feel its about time licenses were introduced back in but on that ANY dog has to show a certain amount of trainning dependant on age.

but then again my brother has a EBT and is 17 he still lives with my mum and the dog goes every where with him and he doesnt encoruage her to fight ETC but he could and sometimes looks like one of thease numptys that has the breed to look clever and hard but that is how it looks and is not like that at all so i think sometimes its how other people see it.

i have a staff X and a 20 month old daughter who lays on her bad shouts at her tells her to sit every thing and that dog does it. now dont get me wrong i would never leave them alone together but i would never leave a child alone with ANY dog.

scabby
14-02-2008, 22:43
I own a staffy x and a rottweiler and i'm on benefits! Both my dogs are well trained, great with other dogs and everyone, they are both loving, amazing dogs, oh and both my dogs have been the victims of dog attacks and neither one has fought back, my staffy x nearly lost his ear to a another dog and my rottweiler is a big softie and very wary of other dogs due to vicious dogs, so am I a bad owner who doesn't deserve my dogs? :rant:

I have never said that people on benefits don't deserve to have dogs OR cannot look after them :rant: What I'm saying is that chavs and such like who 'only want a dog so thay can look hard walking down the street (might think twice if they had to fork out alot more money for them.
Jesus...If I'd have known my opions were going to be taken the wrong way I would'nt have bothered posting em. I thought I was making a fair comment. :confused:

Strix
14-02-2008, 22:44
goldenbabe1966...
I love all breeds of dog ( I have a Staffie X myself) :love: That was an EXAMPLE and not ment to be taken literally.
What I ment was, that if there was a different price for owning different breeds of dogs and the only dog these doley scummy scanky feckin w@#$ers could afford was a Chihuaua, don't you think they would think twice about having a dog at all???? :D
nope - they'd just breed 'em more to conjure up the cash to be able to afford one - or not bother with the licence at all

they don't bother with car licences or tax, and we've only just figured out how to curb that one (vehicle crushing), but they go out and steal them

the kind of breeds you're talking about are already subject to backyard breeding in our most notorious estates, and it's currently bulldogs (fetching £1800-£2000 per pup) that are being bred as status symbols for those who have found themselves suddenly able to afford more than they ever could before

I'm sorry - but the image of doley wasters from the '80s is about as realistic as blaming all the leppers with bells in town for scrounging cash off people

angellic
14-02-2008, 22:59
I just wanted to make a point that people on low incomes who own certain breeds of dogs aren't all bad owners thats all. Point made, didn't mean to offend.

wbua
15-02-2008, 08:06
it is most people who dont understand the breed and that dont have a passion for the breed that that misunderstand it.

i feel its about time licenses were introduced back in but on that ANY dog has to show a certain amount of trainning dependant on age.

but then again my brother has a EBT and is 17 he still lives with my mum and the dog goes every where with him and he doesnt encoruage her to fight ETC but he could and sometimes looks like one of thease numptys that has the breed to look clever and hard but that is how it looks and is not like that at all so i think sometimes its how other people see it.

i have a staff X and a 20 month old daughter who lays on her bad shouts at her tells her to sit every thing and that dog does it. now dont get me wrong i would never leave them alone together but i would never leave a child alone with ANY dog.

The problem with licences would be enforcement, responsible dog owners would comply, the scum would not

gatecrasher3
15-02-2008, 08:52
If the staffy had is jaw clamped then you should have kicked it up the balls/arse. im being serious, its the only way they let go.

I think you may have missed the point. That quote was not mine, it was taken from the comments on the link at the top of this thread.