I am mystified as to why anyone wants this poisoned chalice but have no beef about the appointment? Just pleased O'Leary isn't in the management team. I hope Liam Brady is good at genealogy because the country is well short of quality despite what Don Givens tries to tell us.
I have seen five of the six Under 21 internationals and remain unimpressed - there just isn't the talent about.
Two requests for the new manager; make Richard Dunne captain and steer well clear of picking McShane.

Personally i think its a great appointment for the Irish,hes mad enough to appeal to the Irish Fans and he has already proven what a good manager he is in Italy,plus his knowledge of the International Scene is 2nd to none

Personally i think its a great appointment for the Irish,hes mad enough to appeal to the Irish Fans and he has already proven what a good manager he is in Italy,plus his knowledge of the International Scene is 2nd to none

The bottom line is, he needs the players and it's my summation that they aren't there. The material is nowhere near what Jack Charlton had at his disposal.
No qualms about Trapattoni himself - his wages have been subsidised by a Cork businessman. It shows some sort of ambition by the FAI but at international level, you can't BUY players!

At 68 I thought he is a bit old for it, but being an international boss is not like a league boss, so maybe at his age this is perfect. But either way, when your pushing 70 do you really want to be working?? Its not that he needs any money.. so must be the glory..or the dream of it with ROI.

The bottom line is, he needs the players and it's my summation that they aren't there. The material is nowhere near what Jack Charlton had at his disposal.
No qualms about Trapattoni himself - his wages have been subsidised by a Cork businessman. It shows some sort of ambition by the FAI but at international level, you can't BUY players!

Shay Given
Richard Dunne
Damien Duff
Robbie Keane

Not a bad backbone to any team,the players ARE there to help them qualify for World Cups or Euros as they the vast majority of them are all playing in the Premiership,it just needs guidance and proper training and tactics and no disrepect to Staunton but the job was WAY too early for him,Trapattoni has got everything Staunton hasnt

Shay Given
Richard Dunne
Damien Duff
Robbie Keane

Not a bad backbone to any team,the players ARE there to help them qualify for World Cups or Euros as they the vast majority of them are all playing in the Premiership,it just needs guidance and proper training and tactics and no disrepect to Staunton but the job was WAY too early for him,Trapattoni has got everything Staunton hasnt

We'll have to beg to differ. Several from Reading and Sunderland plus Kilbane (Wigan). I think there are so many players that are Championship standing. Carsley ready for a pension. Duff has been dreadful for some time, Keane's scoring far from prolific.
Then there are the two Reids. The robotic McGeady! I'm not surprised Staunton failed. Given has been the best player for three seasons which says everything. Thank goodness Carr and Doherty are in the past.
O'Shea can be added to your list. I think Finnan has quit?
The squad is a pale shadow of Big Jack's team and it remains to been where they will have reached for 2010?

Trapattoni was a great manager but I think he's too old for international football now.

I have fond memories of an infamous press conference whilst manager of Bayern Munich around '95. A very emotional Trapattoni laying into his players in broken German after a poor performance from his team. :)

We'll have to beg to differ. Several from Reading and Sunderland plus Kilbane (Wigan). I think there are so many players that are Championship standing. Carsley ready for a pension. Duff has been dreadful for some time, Keane's scoring far from prolific.
Then there are the two Reids. The robotic McGeady! I'm not surprised Staunton failed. Given has been the best player for three seasons which says everything. Thank goodness Carr and Doherty are in the past.
O'Shea can be added to your list. I think Finan has quit?
The squad is a pale shadow of Big Jack's team and it remains to been where they will have reached for 2010?

Deffo gonna have to disagree about Keano mate,how can u say hes far from prolific,hes just passed the 100 club for Spurs and is R.O.I highest ever GoalScorer and has still got a few good years left in him

Deffo gonna have to disagree about Keano mate,how can u say hes far from prolific,hes just passed the 100 club for Spurs and is R.O.I highest ever GoalScorer and has still got a few good years left in him

Fair enough but I was meaning in more recent games for ROI. What he does for Spurs is something else as Spurs have better players than ROI. In the last 10 ROI internationals, Ireland scored 11 goals and Keane scored three times (two of which were in the Denmark game). You are correct that he is Ireland's highest ever scorer - BUT eg. Gary Doherty has 34 caps to his name and he was hopeless. Such, that the point I'm making is that since the Jack Charlton era, the number of quality players has diminished. I fail to share Givens's optimism heard at press conferences.
On Trapattoni, I've heard much about his club record but at International level - he didn't succeed with Italy in both a Euro Championship and a World Cup tournament. If you can't do it with Italy, the prospect of success with ROI is highly questionable?
The man hasn't got a magic wand and I'm saying, the necessary quality of players just isn't there. Compare the current squad with:Bonner, Irwin, Staunton, Moran, McGrath, Babb, Sheridan, Townsend, Keane, Aldridge, Houghton, Whelan, of 1994?

Yeah deffo agree with ya about squad of past,but in Charltons era the home countries had a wider choice of players because most of the top teams had more home grown players,is a lot harder nowadays due to the influx of foreigners

I think the thing is that we now have a manager with experience, and success (albeit at clublevel and not international level).

We may be able to sure up the defence, and can slowly build. Stan was tilting at windmills, and Kerr wasn't given a chance.

The problem as I see it is that while he may be able to do something with the general squad as it is, can he get other players who qualify for the Republic to play?

I think the thing is that we now have a manager with experience, and success (albeit at clublevel and not international level).

We may be able to sure up the defence, and can slowly build. Stan was tilting at windmills, and Kerr wasn't given a chance.

The problem as I see it is that while he may be able to do something with the general squad as it is, can he get other players who qualify for the Republic to play?

Hence my original quip of Brady being the genealogy man! That is crucial because as things stand, the talent isn't there, irrespective of the manager. I see very little in the U21s; Stokes and Quinn are no solution. As I said earlier, the last ten games yielded 11 goals and four came in one game. I didn't want Staunton in but his record wasn't disastrous - illuminating neither - but he had limited quality and perhaps we expect too much. This is as good as they are maybe? Anymore bogus Cascarino's out there?