View Full Version : Car Parking Just Outside A Residents Zone


Deepak_S7
11-02-2008, 19:22
The pic linked to here is self explanatory:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9810766@N06/2258859944/

Before the Sharrow zone you could easily park in the areas around it.

Now you cant as many cars have been forced out.
You cant commute in the park, and if you are visiting or live in a house with more than 1 car its not nice either.

The roads where the pic were taken are now swamped with parked cars

You can see how busy as there sometimes isnt even any road to park on

It could have been my road, but the day I had the camera it was here.

I never wanted the scheme and it is making my life hell
Id love me own but my area is not a priority and wont get one for years if at all

Deepak

tom_fordo
12-02-2008, 00:42
Can't quite figure out where your photos are taken?

Could you give some street names?

Tony
12-02-2008, 06:51
It looks around Sharrow Lane / Grange Road.

I sympathise with you Deepak S7 but I suppose that is is an inevitable consequence of the 'lack of funding' that supposedly prevents the PPZ's being installed in one go. The photo that you show was typical of our area before we got ours. I can get in and out of my drive now!

Hopefully you won't have to wait much longer.

Mathom
12-02-2008, 07:20
How on earth could someone with a pram or wheelchair get around that selfishly parked car?!

That's what it's like in Heeley every match day.

Deepak_S7
12-02-2008, 08:52
Thanks for the thoughts Tony

I understand that you had issues and now dont but the fact is I used to live miles away from any parking troubles and now have this

Its maddening

The council say my area is not a priority and not to expect my own zone for 5 years - if ever

Grrrrrr

Planner1
12-02-2008, 10:07
Thanks for the thoughts Tony

I understand that you had issues and now dont but the fact is I used to live miles away from any parking troubles and now have this

Its maddening

The council say my area is not a priority and not to expect my own zone for 5 years - if ever

Grrrrrr

Yourself, your neighbours and other residents from the area who share your views need to mount a campaign. Contact your Councillors and get them on-side. Write individually to your Councillors and the Cabinet Member for Transport, Bryan Lodge, possibly the Leader of the Council too. Raise petitions, organise public meetings and invite Coucillors and Council officers.

Priorities can be changed, but it will take Political will to do it. If you don't build up a head of steam in the area it will never happen.

The people who have got residents parking schemes had been doing these things for years before they got one. Getting results takes effort.

dan_999uk
12-02-2008, 12:01
It looks like Psalter Lane to me, opposite the Psalter Tavern pub.

The Sharrow scheme has been ace for me - not only can I park near my house, but I can also get parked "free" when I go to Ecclesall Road because it's the same permit area :)

Squiggs
12-02-2008, 13:07
In THEORY.......

The car parked almost totally on the pavement. If pushing a wheelchair or pram and one could not get past without causing damage to the car, is it legal to do so?

Deepak_S7
12-02-2008, 13:21
Planner1

Thanks for your opinion

In theory you are right

But why didnt the people who put it in place anticipate the chaos it would cause to the surrounding areas?

Logically every time a scheme is introduced parking will be knocked on. Id have thought that was obvious

I have problems and I am nowhere near where the jams where before the Broomhill scheme was introduced

So put me in a scheme - YES PLEASE!!!
But that will knock on the idiots like in the pic to the next area

Where do you stop?
Until the whole city is PPZ'd?
Then what - turn West Yorks and Derbyshire into commuter car parks for S Yorks?

Seriously - where will it stop?
There has to be a line if every district gets affected one by one

Deepak

katkin
12-02-2008, 14:06
It looks like Psalter Lane to me, opposite the Psalter Tavern pub.

The Sharrow scheme has been ace for me - not only can I park near my house, but I can also get parked "free" when I go to Ecclesall Road because it's the same permit area :)

Its the corner of Pinner and Penrhyn Roads and is regularly chokka - in fact, weve seen cars parked there and lower down Pinner parked right over the corners of the junction and with their tyres deflated - probably because they were parked like total prats and someone took offence. Complete idiots.

I'm still against the idea of having a resident's parking scheme though -we opted out- because, just as I predicted, since it's introduction, we have still only ever had to park away from our own street less than half a dozen times and even then it has not been a hardship, so we dont need to pay for a scheme that does not in anyway benefit us.

There wasnt a problem before the scheme was introduced and there wouldnt be much of one now if people learned to park their cars properly - you either get the idiots who park dangerously at junctions like the one in the photo, or on double yellows on the corner of Stretton Road/ Psalter Lane, too idle to find a proper parking space (or because they want to drop their little darlings off at the dance school and think they are exempt from the highway code). And then there's the morons who leave huge gaps between their car and the next- not quite wide enough to fit another car inbetween.

Powerage
12-02-2008, 23:25
Planner1

Thanks for your opinion

In theory you are right

But why didnt the people who put it in place anticipate the chaos it would cause to the surrounding areas?

Logically every time a scheme is introduced parking will be knocked on. Id have thought that was obvious

I have problems and I am nowhere near where the jams where before the Broomhill scheme was introduced

So put me in a scheme - YES PLEASE!!!
But that will knock on the idiots like in the pic to the next area

Where do you stop?
Until the whole city is PPZ'd?
Then what - turn West Yorks and Derbyshire into commuter car parks for S Yorks?

Seriously - where will it stop?
There has to be a line if every district gets affected one by one

Deepak

Thats the whole idea soon there will be nowhere to park in the whole city so everyone will get rid of their cars and use our wonderful public transport system:mad:

Planner1
13-02-2008, 08:52
Planner1

Thanks for your opinion

In theory you are right

But why didnt the people who put it in place anticipate the chaos it would cause to the surrounding areas?

Logically every time a scheme is introduced parking will be knocked on. Id have thought that was obvious

I have problems and I am nowhere near where the jams where before the Broomhill scheme was introduced

So put me in a scheme - YES PLEASE!!!
But that will knock on the idiots like in the pic to the next area

Where do you stop?
Until the whole city is PPZ'd?
Then what - turn West Yorks and Derbyshire into commuter car parks for S Yorks?

Seriously - where will it stop?
There has to be a line if every district gets affected one by one

Deepak

I believe we've had this debate before.

Of course the people who plan these schemes know very well that there will be displacement into adjoining areas WHEREVER they put the boundary for a permit scheme. However, it is very difficult to predict exactly where and to what extent the problems will occur, so it's best to wait and see what happens and then try to address any issue which arise.

I know that the Council are aware of your issues and are looking at what can be done to help.

In my view, the parking problems in your pictures could be dealt with by selective use of parking restrictions, without the need for extending the permit scheme.

Your issues have resulted from the Sharrow Vale scheme and are nothing to do with Broomhill. All of the permit schemes, Broomhall, Broomhill and Sharrow Vale are part of a demand management strategy to limit the amount of free, all day parking available to commuters in the areas surrounding the city centre adn bring some relief to the residents of these areas who have been complaining about parking problems for many years.

Logically, Highfield would seem be the next section of the Peripheral Parking Zone to be implemented. However, resources are limited and I understand that the Council are looking at permit schemes for district shoping centres like Hillsborough, where there is strong demand for permit parking.

As I said in my earlier post, the sooner you get campaigning, the sooner you will get something done. Constantly debating the issue on this Forum doesn't seem to be having the desired result, does it?

Planner1
13-02-2008, 08:54
Thats the whole idea soon there will be nowhere to park in the whole city so everyone will get rid of their cars and use our wonderful public transport system:mad:

A bit of an exageration. The Council are trying to control the supply of parking in areas of high demand, so that those who do have options on how to travel will consider them.