View Full Version : Should South Yorkshire have its own news?


Mr Sheffield
28-01-2008, 18:25
For too long now the Yorkshire TV local news has been too Leeds biased(look Leeds), is it time now that South Yorks had it`s own television news?

Mr Sheffield
28-01-2008, 18:28
Posted it in wrong place, can it be moved please to the main Sheffield discussion?

Heyesey
28-01-2008, 18:36
We have our own news, don't we? The Sheffield Star.

People on here don't seem to rate it too highly, as a rule.

Mr Sheffield
28-01-2008, 18:40
Sorry i meant TV local news.

ASPGuru
28-01-2008, 19:13
No we don't. Nothing happens here - the only action is in Leeds.
It's on the telly - gotta be true. ;)

muddycoffee
28-01-2008, 19:48
I prefer to get my local news from here.

My colleague at work told me this morning, that when something good happens in Sheffield on Look North, they avoid mentioning sheffield and say it happened in south yorkshire. But when anything bad happens it is major news and they make sure that it is mentioned that it happened in sheffield several times.

Meanwhile if anything bad happens in Leeds and they are forced to report it, more often than not they claim that it happened in west yorkshire, rather than specifically leeds.

surfinjim
28-01-2008, 19:51
The democratic people of the democratic republic of South Yorkshire deserve the right to know whats happening to Edith Cogglesworth, of 27 DownPit Lane, Dodworth. Why wasn't her bin collected a week last Thursday?


I honestly couldn't give 2 hoots about whats happening above junction 38 on the M1, or below junction 31.

Its South Yorkshire news I'm interested in, I tell thee!

Get Dickie Bird on reading t'news


Jim

madowl
28-01-2008, 19:56
The thing is... there is a BBC sheffield and the is a calender office etc in sheffield...so why are they so leeds...:huh:

local news for local people.... thats what we need/want!!

Fougasse
28-01-2008, 19:58
The thing is... there is a BBC sheffield and the is a calender office etc in sheffield...so why are they so leeds...:huh:

local news for local people.... thats what we need/want!!
There's a BBC Sheffield!!!!!?????

When did that arrive?

madowl
28-01-2008, 20:00
There's a BBC Sheffield!!!!!?????

When did that arrive?
bbc radio sheffield... bbc and calender have tv studios in sheffield..

djelibeybi
28-01-2008, 20:05
In our house, we have satellite downstairs and aerial TV upstairs.

My parents get to watch Look Leeds, and I get to watch Look Hull.

Rarely do stories relating to Sheffield get mentioned, so I really feel for anyone else living in South Yorkshire who'd love a local TV news report!

It's ridiculous! A city the size of Sheffield and scarce coverage when it comes to local news programmes!

What was it they said in that animated film Robots? "See a need, fill a need".

DIVA
28-01-2008, 20:30
I'm sick to death of everything being LEEDS. Leeds must have got mentioned over a hundred times on Calender tonight, including an epic report about Denis Wise going to Newcastle because they no longer have a cup story to report, (a story which they also mentioned twice later in the show!) like the other 3 times, who got relegated to a little spot at the end of the show. The bias towards Leeds is pathetic and totally unjustified, they've had their turn, it's time they had some real competition, or were MADE to sit up and take notice. Glad to see this poll and post.

Jason Bourne
28-01-2008, 20:42
My colleague at work told me this morning, that when something good happens in Sheffield on Look North, they avoid mentioning sheffield and say it happened in south yorkshire. But when anything bad happens it is major news and they make sure that it is mentioned that it happened in sheffield several times.

Even Toby Foster on BBC Radio Sheffield criticises Look North as Look Leeds :D

Leeds doesn't want to present a pleasant picture of Sheffield; we'll have to do it ourselves.

kel83
28-01-2008, 20:45
I was thinking this while watching Look North this evening- Dennis Wise leaving Leeds Utd over the fact that Sheffield Utd BEAT a top flight team this weekend??? Unbelievable. And above people killed in a helicopter crash and the murder in Sheffield...

Shaun_A
28-01-2008, 20:56
A few years ago they tried to divide teh Yorkshire region into North and West, South and East don't know what happeed to it though, what gets me is that we are classed as bigger than Leeds but when the weather report comes on either station the pinpoints of weather are everything but Sheffield they even go for the smaller places, we get different weather to Leeds because we are more than 30 miles away. We definately need putting on the map!

Shaun

www.sheffieldcleaning.com
www.homestcarpetcare.co.uk

Rich
28-01-2008, 20:59
They had a whole 30 seconds of coverage of that incident up Woodseats last weekend on tonight's program, yet they spent considerably more time discussing the change in management at L**ds United! :loopy:

DynoDon
28-01-2008, 22:53
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Mr Sheffield
29-01-2008, 00:32
Bigger than Leeds in what way? They have over one-third higher population, their economy grows about three times as fast and has done for years and aren't far off twice the size in terms of land.

(plenty of potential for news stories then)

With the weather it's been a few months since watching Calendar or Look North in their entirety but Calendar went for very small local towns and Look North included Sheffield. It's oft-said weather is measured in the sites of places that have airports, though could be a myth.

As for South Yorkshire having it's own news - not really bothered. Doncaster is featured on Look North as much as its status deserves and I'd rather have the important news of all go-getting town and cities viewed by the entire region, as they are, rather than diluted local dross just to appease a supposed bias that people barely see outside Sheffield.

In terms of city population Sheffield is bigger then Leeds, it`s when people start including other factors that it gets complicated!
http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/UK.htm

DynoDon
29-01-2008, 00:36
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Mr Sheffield
29-01-2008, 01:14
have you looked at that link it shows that the actual city of Sheffield has a higher population! here it is again.
http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/UK.htm

DynoDon
29-01-2008, 01:28
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Heyesey
29-01-2008, 03:49
have you looked at that link it shows that the actual city of Sheffield has a higher population!

And it's wrong. It was wrong then, and it's even wronger now.

Cyclone
29-01-2008, 06:33
So where's your counter evidence then?

craigmason
29-01-2008, 07:00
Look north ( 28/1/08 ) 6.30 was a prime example of why sheffield needs its own regional tv news bulletin instead of leading with the murder in sheffield they chose Dennis wise going to Newcastle :loopy:

Annoni_mouse
29-01-2008, 08:10
I suspect this same argument is repeated in the towns and cities that surround all the major cities in the UK, be it Manchester, Liverpool or Leeds.

Its a sad fact that all Local news will be biased towards the largest/ economically affluent centre in the area. And much though it galls me to say it, there is no getting away from the fact that Leeds is many years ahead of Sheffield at this moment in time.

As for football, well here is more of a grey area. Leeds are probably seen throughout the country as the biggest club in Yorkshire, but the combined fan base of both Sheffield clubs is, I would imagine, larger. So there is a good argument for saying that proportionatly, we should probably have more coverage. But at the end of the day, the news stories are dictated by events, not the number of fans.

My favourite headline was from a few years back when Wednesday signed the legened that is Des Walker. He was, you may remember, an England international at the time, and perhaps one of the most famous footballers in the country. So what do you suppose was the headline on the 'Local' teletext sports news? Wednesday sign England ace? NO. Owls tie up International defender? NO.

It was 'Leeds miss out on Walker':roll: Ho hum!

Harry Pye
29-01-2008, 12:18
Don't think enough happens in Sheff to warrant it's own TV news. It can't justify a daily newspaper if that rag, 'The Star' is anything to go by.

julado
29-01-2008, 12:42
That's as maybe but if we did get our own news we would lose the deliciously orange Christa :hihi:

alchresearch
29-01-2008, 14:46
I suspect this same argument is repeated in the towns and cities that surround all the major cities in the UK, be it Manchester, Liverpool or Leeds.

It is. The North West's equivalent of Look North (North West Tonight) comes from Manchester and that's where the majority of the stories are from, yet the programme serves most of Cheshire, Mersyside and Cumbria well into the lakes.

Granada are worse though. They'll lead with a headline like "Man shot in Greater Manchester". You panic a little, then find that it happened in Rochdale - which can be some 40 to 50 miles away and is meaningless!

This also happened last weekend with that mad dog on the streets on Blackburn.

It could be worse though - the BBC News site doesn't even have Cheshire on it - an area of 903 square miles and a population of almost a million (according to Wiki)!

Mr Sheffield
29-01-2008, 15:53
Don't think enough happens in Sheff to warrant it's own TV news. It can't justify a daily newspaper if that rag, 'The Star' is anything to go by.

It won`t be just for Sheffield it will be for the whole of south yorks. The worst biased paper i have seen is the Yorkshire post, might as well call it self the Leeds post.

mrplodge
29-01-2008, 19:01
Regardless of the figures from a 2002 link, the figures are silly. As is this argument and I've just stated the reason why.

Now, if you want to live by those rules that's your perogative, then Sheffield is da numba 1, yeah man!

It's far removed from the reality of the two cities, their economies and people though.

You really have got a problem with sheffield, its because of this negativeness that holds the region back

Novice
29-01-2008, 19:18
Leeds are so far ahead of Sheffield?...so much so that they won't entertain the idea of a tram!...this clean, efficient, on time, 'green' public transport is surely the way forward for any modern city...but Leeds?...no.
Email Look North....go on, do it....I did, and this was the reply (and I didn't even mention the football)




Thanks for the email. Yes- there were a lot of stories from Leeds in tonight's programme- more than usual. But there were also three stories from Sheffield - including the main item- plus other news from Huddersfield, Scarborough and the North York Moors.

We aim to cover stories all over North, South and West Yorkshire. But on days when there are big news or sports stories in one particular part of our region- we do devote more attention to them.

We're well aware that football- and especially Leeds United- does divide our viewers. But Gary McAllister's appointment is of interest to many people; Leeds are currently Yorkshire's most well-supported sports team- despite being unpopular among fans of many other clubs. Just as we devoted a lot of time to Neil Warnock's departure and Bryan Robson's arrival at Bramall Lane, so we thought the news over the past two days involving Leeds United's old and new managers was of intetest, too.

We're just as keen to cover news in South Yorkshire as we are elsewhere; last week we sent our presenter Harry Gration to present sections of the programme live from Wath on Dearne and Barnsley when there were stories there in the news. And last summer, when the most significant news story of the year occurred- we devoted our entire programme to covering the flooding in South Yorkshire for eight days. A DVD of our coverage of the floods raised more than £18,000 for communities affected.

You're right- we do need to be less Leeds-centric. In the year I've been doing this job I've moved more staff out of Leeds; and tried to cover more stories away from Leeds. But there are days when there are big stories in Leeds which demand coverage; I think today was one such occasion.

Thanks for getting in touch.




He even admits they are 'Leeds-centric', so at least they know!