Is it me or am i old fashioned but it seems when young people go out at night they can't be bothered to dress smart anymore.
Why ?.

Or am i imagining it.
You tell me.

I think you are imagining it

Either that or you go out to some strange places

Most people I know, young or otherwise, take loads of trouble chosing what to wear and trying to be smart.

It might just be that your idea of smart is not the same as someone else's.

Like training shoes which you might think "not smart" but someone who paid a few hundred quid for a pair would think they were as smart as err...smart things that are very smart

Originally posted by LouiseB
I think you are imagining it

Either that or you go out to some strange places

Most people I know, young or otherwise, take loads of trouble chosing what to wear and trying to be smart.



Not me dear!! Jeans, T shirt and denim for boozers and clubs these days, although I do like to dress smart for work!!

I know what you mean cycleracer!!!

When we are on holiday, we usually dress up for dinner in the evening. This year at Great Yarmouth we didn't bother! People seemed to be coming straight off the beach, then to the pubs at night....wearing flip flops/shorts!!!

So much for a nice top and skirt!!!

I agree, people just aren't as bothered anymore. It's a shame because its nice to see people make an effort.

Originally posted by pontious
Not me dear!! Jeans, T shirt and denim for boozers and clubs these days

Same here,cant remember the last time i got "dressed up" for a night on the town,all the pubs amd clubs i go in dont require you to dress a certain way so a dress with what i feel comfortable in,plus i think i look pretty smart when i go out anyway!! :lol:

Originally posted by pontious
Not me dear!! Jeans, T shirt and denim for boozers and clubs these days, although I do like to dress smart for work!!

yes, its all about this weathered denim look. has to be evisu or other expensive brand for it to be authentically not authentic.

personally i wouldn't be seen dead in any form of denim, not even whilst decorating.

I prefer a boiler suit for my decorating needs, lets your body breathe!!!

I must admit, I like this dirty denim look but I do remember a few years back when if you had denim and/or trainers on you weren't dressed right. I although I hear this rule still applies at Berlins, Kingdom and similar sorts of cheese spots.

I really hate looking smart for going out... Its just not me. I'd much rather look stylish. I think its a lot more important to express your personality through the clothes you wear than to look like everyone else.

One of our regular customers tried an experiment a few weeks ago when it was really hot. He left the house wearing just a leopard print thong and his boots. He got on the bus and went into town.

He walked in and out of a few pubs and was either looked at strangely or barred on the spot. He came back to the Classic and we all just laughed at him. Once he'd been laughed at he just drank his beer and we all just got on with living.

Funny thing, dress codes. Surely it should be down to the person's personality and demeanour rather than what they wear.

We have a rock bar, but you are welcome to wear whatever you want to wear in it, whether it be jeans and t shirts, the latest fashion, 80s legwarmers or a leopard print thong. As long as you enjoy yourself, should it matter? Why should clothing cause offence?

More importantly, why should people have to conform to a dress code of a club/bar? Does it really matter if a person is wearing trainers and jeans as opposed to shoes and trousers??

YES it f****** does. Why come to a 'nice bar' and dress like a tramp? It doesn't look good and it takes something away. If the bar owners can make an effort for the place to look good, clean and tidy, then so should y'all!

Besides, I reckon shirt, trousers and shoes are a little OTT.
Nice clean jeans, trendy (not scraggy) trainers and a decent T-shirt/top is sufficient. No need for all the OTT pants IMHO!

The right to refuse entry is down to any pub, but by saying you can only come into a pub if you are wearing the latest fashion is not appropriate and not really practiced.

Everyone I know dresses for comfort. One person's taste is not necessarily someone elses. The fashion at the moment seems to be the Burberry check print which I think looks like an old man's fashion.

Pub owners are generally happy if people come in and drink their beer so they can pay the bills. There are only a very small number of pubs in the city who have dress codes which are strictly adhered to these days and they tend to be clubs, yet I believe in truth that they are more flexible than they ever were.

I have wandered into trendy bars in town just wearing a pair of jeans and t shirt and trainers, and the people I was with were wearing the same and we weren't turned away. We stood out like a sore thumb as everyone else was in their trendy gear, but it didn't really matter.

You go to a pub for the atmosphere and pub owners are happy to create a good one. If people are having a good time, in this days competetive climate, pub owners can rarely afford to turn people away from their bar.

Usually if someone comes in looking really scruffy, they are unlikely to have any money on them to buy a drink and tend to have some sort of social disorder and usually end up leaving fairly quickly anyway.

Trendy and posh bars usually attract well dressed people and people out on the town wearing jeans tend to wobble into bars that are more relaxed. It's more of an informal rule rather than a written rule. N'er the twain shall meet? No, they do meet, and there are rarely disasterous consequences.

I work at a late bar is sheffield which has a semi strict dress code. They like a 'particular' croud in the place and advise us to turn away certain dressed customers. It may not be the best policy, but the place rarely gets ANY trouble at all, so something must be working.

Burbury in ANY form is a strict NO NO. No entry at all. It's associated with fottball hooliganism and the owners ban it along with, football shirts and casual sports wear. They also dont allow large groups of men into the bar. 4 in a group is max, and there is NO leeway at all. Not my rules, but I am paid to enforce them.

From what I hear on the grape vine is that a lot of 'bars' in the town centre will be following suit in with this, so expect more to come!

Originally posted by tinajones
yes, its all about this weathered denim look. has to be evisu or other expensive brand for it to be authentically not authentic.

personally i wouldn't be seen dead in any form of denim, not even whilst decorating.

No,no,no,no,no,nooooooooooo!!!

I dont give a flying monkey trump what labels on my jeans as long as they look al'reight!!

I'll buy my clothes at Peacocks if they look reight!!

As for Dabouncers clothes facism!! .........I'll be giving the Takapuna a wide birth in future!!

Anyway its got a daft name!! :o

Originally posted by pontious

As for Dabouncers clothes facism!! .........I'll be giving the Takapuna a wide birth in future!!

Anyway its got a daft name!! :o

Careful there matey, I went to a school with the same name.

Here to be precise, if anybody's interested:

Takapuna (http://www.takapuna.school.nz/)

Originally posted by pontious
No,no,no,no,no,nooooooooooo!!!

I dont give a flying monkey trump what labels on my jeans as long as they look al'reight!!

I'll buy my clothes at Peacocks if they look reight!!

As for Dabouncers clothes facism!! .........I'll be giving the Takapuna a wide birth in future!!

Anyway its got a daft name!! :o

the irony is that denim used to be the attire of the workers and is now mainstream classless fashion.

takapuna is an original name for a bar in comparison to the chains effort and as for their dresscode policy, that just matches the drinks prices. having said that i mght pop down on saturday in my £1.99 oxfam skirt...

Originally posted by pontious

As for Dabouncers clothes facism!!

Oi, they aren't my rules as I've stated. I couldn't give a rats. But I am paid to enforce em!

Originally posted by tinajones
the irony is that denim used to be the attire of the workers and is now mainstream classless fashion.

takapuna is an original name for a bar in comparison to the chains effort and as for their dresscode policy, that just matches the drinks prices. having said that i mght pop down on saturday in my £1.99 oxfam skirt...
You're welcome anytime Ali you know that!

What does Takapuna mean anyway?

PS Max, that school look pretty cool! (Hey I'm a poet) :lol: 8) :P

Do they make the door staff wear penguin suits?

Not me! But they do at SR's!

Thanks for your views, a very mixed piont of view on this but my main issue is not what the rules and regs are of some clubs but more of a personal choice whether you go out for dinner, to the pics or to the local pub my thoughts were along that line with people not bothering to dress for the occation.

I think if you look round town on a Friday and Saturday night the majority of blokes are wearing shirt, trousers and shoes, and most of the women are wearing a nice sexy outfit, so I would disagree with that statement.

Yes, the rest of the week people more go for jeans and t-shirt, but they aren't 'big night out' days, and there tends to be a more relaxed atmosphere.

Generally mid week if a doorman turns someone away due to their clothes it is probably just an excuse not to let in someone they don't like the look of.

Originally posted by The Cycleracer
Is it me or am i old fashioned but it seems when young people go out at night they can't be bothered to dress smart anymore.
Why ?.

Or am i imagining it.
You tell me.


Tails and a tall shiner !!!

don't get me started on dress code round sheffield..some of the pubs and clubs seem to think they are so exclusive,,,whats the definition of smart...are you telling me some towny that goes into kingdom in his black trousers that don't fit properly and his Pod shoes and his blue stripey shirt with white cuffs and collars is more smarter than someone with cool jeans and a t-shirt on....sorry..not havin it...Owners of pubs and clubs round sheffield need to wake up and realise what they actually are...****ty drinkin dives...I can understand it if it is an exclusive members only club or summat but come on...I have friends from Mancheser and Leeds who hate Sheffield for this reason...other cities are really laid back about dress code and it makes for a more pleasant night out....And whos to say that the dude in his jeans and t-shirt is more likely to get into trouble than the tanked up townie???...I thank you....take deep breathes...calm down

Dress codes are very useful. If a place has got one, I know I won't fit in there.

No dis to DB, but if a place has bouncers, I probably won't fit in there. My usual haunts in town are the Rutland Hotel and Fat Cat, and of course my exception to this rule, the Dev Cat.

The other sign is that I can hear the place from the outside. Never quite understood why people queue up to get into places where you can't sit down, can't hear people speak, and can't get a decent pint.

Me and my mate got turned away from Kingdom (oh no, really upset about that one!!) the other day - him for wearing 'steel' toecaps (plastic reinforced shoes) and me for wearing 'trainers' - dark red leather shoes.

Hmmm... I can only assume they didn't like the look of us, but as I pointed out to the bouncers, even if my friend wanted to start a fight, he's twice as likely to kick off now he's been refused from a night club!!

I've been turned away from the Kingdom because my shoes (black office work shoes) were too scruffy.

Nothing to do with my long hair and leathers. Oh no, no, no, no ;)

Originally posted by Karlt
I've been turned away from the Kingdom because my shoes (black office work shoes) were too scruffy.

Nothing to do with my long hair and leathers. Oh no, no, no, no ;)

Why would a long haired biker want to go into Kingdom?

Originally posted by Classic Rock
Why would a long haired biker want to go into Kingdom?

It's a very good question.

It was only to be sociable - was with a group of trendies.

I imagine you can guess where I did end up - begins with 'C'...

Burbury in ANY form is a strict NO NO. No entry at all. It's associated with fottball hooliganism and the owners ban it along with, football shirts and casual sports wear.

People who can really afford to wear Burberry are generally not football hooligans (who probably bought there fake shirts off the market) so i dont see why you say that Burberry in any form is a no no as there are plenty of respectable people who wear real Burberry who wouldnt cause any trouble at all.

So from your comment you ban Burberry from your bar? even if say some celebrity wanted to come in and happened to be wearing a burberry shirt???

Having been in London for the last seven years I am baffled by the whole dress code thing, very old fashioned and small minded - judging a book by it's cover... Even the trendiest bars don't bother in London. In fact in some places it's almost obligatory to dress scruffily (in the right kind of second hand clothes - carefully messed up hair way of course). I think this is partly because everyone goes out drinking straight after work, so not dressing smartly is almost a status symbol ie you work in a trendy design, new media, advertising company etc and are not some wide boy/ essex girl who works in the city and has to wear a suit. Plus of course all the bars restaurants are wise to the fact that what you wear has no bearing on wealth or status - you could be a pop star just about to break into the big time for all they know. Another thing is you don't get small scale violence/lads looking for trouble, everyone is very careful to avoid it as you don't know who may be carrying a gun!

Originally posted by cheaky_monkey
People who can really afford to wear Burberry are generally not football hooligans (who probably bought there fake shirts off the market) so i dont see why you say that Burberry in any form is a no no as there are plenty of respectable people who wear real Burberry who wouldnt cause any trouble at all.

So from your comment you ban Burberry from your bar? even if say some celebrity wanted to come in and happened to be wearing a burberry shirt???

If I had a bar, I'd ban burberry because it looks BLOODY STUPID, nothing to do with football.

Originally posted by Karlt
It's a very good question.

It was only to be sociable - was with a group of trendies.

I imagine you can guess where I did end up - begins with 'C'...


ooh could be the casbah or corporation!

it would seem most of the pubs on west street ban any sort of labelled designer gear associated with Football, Burburry, Stone Island to name a few. The last time i went out a lad i was with was in a smart cardi with a small stone island label on the sleeve. I reckon this jumper cost a few quid but he couldnt get in the S1 bar wearing it! !
I know my ex fella NEVER wears trousers or a shirt but looks pretty damn smart when he goes out. This is acceptable in trendy bars in town, but clubs like Kingdom think shirt and shoes is more accceptable.

Also, what constitutes 'trainers' i mean fair doos a lad.lass walks in with some ridiculous shox which yeah trainers but some nice trendy split toes or comfy leather trainer type shoes shouldnt really stop you getting into a club should they??

i realise its more about the clinetelle but i must admit i have had better nights where they isnt such a care about if you have jeans or trainers on. Its better than feeling like a tramp if your clothes didn't cost the earth. You can still look cool shopping at Primark!! :rant: :confused:

The gradual deformalisation of revellers' attire surely began as a reaction to strict yet pointless dress codes enforced by an unfathomably out-of-touch bar and club industry. These various chains, many of which are scattered along West Street, would no doubt have welcomed Ian Brady, were wearing a nice pair of shoes and a shirt. I learned very quickly to avoid anywhere that dictated what its punters should wear, not because I believed it infringed my rights as an individual or because I didn't have a nice pair of shiny shoes, but because those were the places with the most trouble, the worst music and the most depressing atmospheres.

The question is: are these rules imposed exclusively by the management, or are they also self-imposed by the punters themselves? The fact that being able to wear pretty much anything we like quickly gave rise to a new, scruffier 'uniform' (ripped jeans, jeans that make you look like you've just had a jot of incontinence, 83-hair-cuts-in-one, stupid trainers that surely belong to Marty McFly circa 1985, suit jackets that have been set on fire and quickly doused with cat sick, etc. etc...) makes me believe the latter.

The fact is, people are sheep. However, a looser, more democratic approach to dress codes allow people to wear what they want. And they should wear what they feel comfortable in. Should anyone decide to dress dapper, then they are free to do so. Who knows? They might inspire some of the scruffy oiks to do the same...

For those who hate dress codes: just don't go to those places (quite simple really)! Sheffield has loads of wicked venues that are by far better than these s***holes anyway.

Originally posted by cheaky_monkey
People who can really afford to wear Burberry are generally not football hooligans (who probably bought there fake shirts off the market) so i dont see why you say that Burberry in any form is a no no as there are plenty of respectable people who wear real Burberry who wouldnt cause any trouble at all.

So from your comment you ban Burberry from your bar? even if say some celebrity wanted to come in and happened to be wearing a burberry shirt???

Burberry should be banned from all public places. Not because of it's associations with football hooliganism, but because it looks like someone has vomited all over you.

Personally I think we should all be made to wear dog shirts, then the world would be a much better place.... ;)

forget dress codes..

venues need to apply an "attitude code"...

ted
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I agree with Karl T on this one- dress codes work well cos they make sure I know when to avoid an establishment!
to be fair tho I dress pretty smart anyway and have never had any problems anywhere but I avoid townie places like the plague on principal.

Da Bouncer- I don't think any football hooligans wear Burberry anymore..they like to think of themselves as a well dressed bunch!

Originally posted by queen_bee
Personally I think we should all be made to wear dog shirts, then the world would be a much better place.... ;)

Can't allow that I'm afraid, I've copyrighted that look.

Originally posted by Bacala
Da Bouncer- I don't think any football hooligans wear Burberry anymore..they like to think of themselves as a well dressed bunch! [/B]

I think he said that back in 2003 though!! I was just readin the thread and its all dated 2 years back! But yeh the boys moved onto Stone Island, Hackett etc now I guess.

Originally posted by unuspromulti
I think he said that back in 2003 though!! I was just readin the thread and its all dated 2 years back! But yeh the boys moved onto Stone Island, Hackett etc now I guess.

oops well a 2 year old thread thats fair going!
tends to be the numptys that want to be noticed and thought of as trouble makers in Stone Island an that...the proper firms that try to avoid the beady eye of the OB an that prefer CP Company which is almost exactly the same high quality Itailian designer hooligan chic but without the distinctive outside label!