boosh
17-01-2008, 23:28
Does anyone have any information about the shooting of dog's down here?....it's not right!:mad:
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View Full Version : Does anyone know anything about a dog being shot on Black Lane Loxley? boosh 17-01-2008, 23:28 Does anyone have any information about the shooting of dog's down here?....it's not right!:mad: wolfstalin 18-01-2008, 04:46 Does anyone have any information about the shooting of dog's down here?....it's not right!:mad: Is that the four or two legged variety? sanman 18-01-2008, 07:39 The one that I heard about was a puppy that was chasing after some sheep. The owner of the land shot it. wolfstalin 18-01-2008, 07:58 The one that I heard about was a puppy that was chasing after some sheep. The owner of the land shot it. A puppy? You're allowed to shoot a dog 'worrying' sheep, but not one just chasing around. This isn't that certain piece of land is it? The Chavs 18-01-2008, 08:54 Does anyone have any information about the shooting of dog's down here?....it's not right!:mad: Do you have any further information Boosh. When did this happen? What sort of dog was it? Was the dog under the control of anyone? (I hope children werent around). Obviously, without knowing more this could be justified so lets not jump to the conclusion that this wasnt the right course of action to take. Wait til we know more before passing personal judgements please. joanne5600 18-01-2008, 09:01 which ones black lane sanman 18-01-2008, 09:02 A puppy? You're allowed to shoot a dog 'worrying' sheep, but not one just chasing around. This isn't that certain piece of land is it? No, different piece of land although the owner of he sheep was the same person - however he wasn't the one who shot the puppy. When I say puppy I believe the dog was between 6-12 months of age. The Chavs 18-01-2008, 11:55 Does anyone have any information about the shooting of dog's down here?....it's not right!:mad: Boosh, someone has sent me a PM and apparently : It was a while back since the dog was shot. It belonged to someone local and apparently the owner of the dogs young lad was with the dog and said it wasnt chasing sheep at all. What's your view? It must have been quite traumatic for the young lad. He was out walking his young dog and its shot infront of him. Im vaguley aware of landowners etc being allowed to shoot dogs when they are near sheep but I havent heard of it actually happening anywhere. joanne5600 18-01-2008, 12:00 wheres black lane The Chavs 18-01-2008, 12:03 If you go up Loxley Road, past the Wisewood pub, once the houses run out on your left there is a small lane called Black Lane, which leads down to Loxley Bottoms/Valley. Its a well used lane by dog-walkers !!!! Its on the left before you come to the cemetry entrance. More or less opposite the village green. Do you know where now? Hope Ive given sufficient direction. joanne5600 18-01-2008, 12:07 yes i know now never knew what that road was called - have been down it loads of times Cuey 18-01-2008, 13:26 To be fair and even a farmer is fully entitled to shoot the dog if its worrying his sheep. Obviously every owner says it woudln't hurt them but it costs the farmer a small fortune if the dog does get at them. The vets fees can be more than the sheep is worth. On the couple of occasions i've seen it done the farmer didn't do it lightly and would rather not but it is sometimes necessary. Not nice but in a rural community the farmer has to protect his stock. boosh 18-01-2008, 19:06 Do you have any further information Boosh. When did this happen? What sort of dog was it? Was the dog under the control of anyone? (I hope children werent around). Obviously, without knowing more this could be justified so lets not jump to the conclusion that this wasnt the right course of action to take. Wait til we know more before passing personal judgements please. i heard that some one was walking their dog and some mad man came along and shot it because it was on his field...lots of storys around worral and bradfield about it?. I just wondered if someone had the facts?:( vikki 18-01-2008, 19:17 i dont agree with it but unfortunatley the farmer is weel within his/her rights to shoot the dog. http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/legc/statutes/sheeppro.htm boosh 18-01-2008, 19:31 i dont agree with it but unfortunatley the farmer is weel within his/her rights to shoot the dog. http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/legc/statutes/sheeppro.htm had a look at the link...seems you are right...but it seems a bit extreme on that land at black lane...but i wasnt there so i cannot be judge and jury.....DOES ANYONE HAVE THE FULL FACTS? Longcol 18-01-2008, 19:32 i dont agree with it but unfortunatley the farmer is weel within his/her rights to shoot the dog. http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/legc/statutes/sheeppro.htm I think if you look at that piece of legislation it is Canadian not British - although I do understand the same rights exist over here. I remember it happening once above High Bradfield many years ago. vikki 18-01-2008, 20:15 sorry i didnt realise it was canadian. but i have found this on DEFRA: The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 Under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 the owner and anyone else under whose control the dog is at the time will be guilty of an offence if it worries livestock on agricultural land. The dog must have been attacking or chasing livestock in such a way that it could reasonably be expected to cause injury or suffering or, in the case of females, abortion or the loss or diminution of their produce. An offence is not committed if at the time of the worrying the livestock were trespassing, the dog belonged to the owner of the land on which the trespassing livestock were and the person in charge of the dog did not cause the dog to attack the livestock. The definition of 'livestock' includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included. The Animals Act 1971 Civil liability arises from the Animals Act 1971. Anyone who is the keeper of a dog that causes damage by killing or injuring livestock is liable for the damage caused. For the purposes of the Act the keeper is the owner or the person in possession of the dog. The head of the household is liable where the owner is under the age of 16. The keeper of the dog is not liable where the damage is due wholly to the fault of the person suffering it or if the livestock were killed or injured on land onto which they had strayed and either the dog belonged to the occupier or its presence was authorised by the occupier. Under the Act there is a defence available to someone who is the subject of civil proceedings for killing or injuring a dog that was worrying or about to worry livestock. The defence can be used where there were no other means of ending or preventing the worrying or where the dog that had done the worrying was still in the vicinity and not under control and there were no practicable means of establishing ownership. The definition of livestock in the 1971 Act is wider than in the 1953Act. Here it includes pheasants, partridges and grouse whilst in captivity. |