View Full Version : Whats the fate of jessops hospital?


kblade
17-02-2005, 16:21
does anyone know what is to become of the old jessops hospital? is to going to be demolished? i'm presuming so:(

i took my daughter to western park today and was surprised at all the demolisions and rebuild in that area. a new building beside the old jessops for instance. is this to be another addition to the university?:confused:

i was quite sad to see jessops in the state its in, curtains still at some of the windows yet boarded up all around. looked very eerie and in a lot worse a state than it used to look, as if it somehow looks sad LOL!

both my daughter and i were born there, was quite sad to see it like that.:(

yes i am a soppy cow:rolleyes: :D

leddi
17-02-2005, 16:25
Think its going to be a new biomedical science building for sheffield university but not positive, they have kept the really old part of jessops but think they may be demolishing the more modern section. sorry to hear it made you sad, things like that upset me too, i was born at home though, my sister was born at nether edge and now thats all new apartments :(

HughW
17-02-2005, 16:31
The older part of the hospital is to be retained. See...
www.shef.ac.uk/convocation/news2002-01-03.shtml and

www.chrishobbs.com/jessopshospital2004.pdf

HughW

kblade
17-02-2005, 18:57
thanks guys, it would've been a shame to see it totally go. it does look run down now i suppose but holds so many memories for well, thousands i should imagine:)

rinty
18-02-2005, 12:24
The original Jessops building is listed, so they would never have been able to knock it down.

nick2
18-02-2005, 12:43
Originally posted by rinty
The original Jessops building is listed, so they would never have been able to knock it down.

It would be nice if that were true.

CJB444
18-02-2005, 12:57
All this work is being done by the University iof Sheffield.

The Old Victorian Jessop Building is to remain and be thoroughly spruced up (could do with a good old clean!), it actually looks nice to see the whole thing without that horrible 60s block in front of it.

The 1930s (ish) bit will also be demolished as is of negligable architectural value. Although I do hope they salvage the ornate carved stone work and large balconies.

The large new building going up is going to be a "Bio-Science Incubator" - I beleive is a collaboration with industry to invest in new technologies. Something like that! Anyhow, I think that area will look pretty smart once complete.

On the opposite side of the road where the old building which had the Uni crest on the white wall once was is to be the new "Learning Resources Centre" ..... I'm not so keen on the design of that mind.

On Broad Lane, the Uni has aquired the HSE labs, and will be investing millons to make a new state of the art Multidisciplinary Research centre and a new North Campus. (see www.shef.ac.uk/northcampus).

So lots going on, hopefully, all for the better.

Edd
18-02-2005, 12:59
Theyve demolished the old laundry part of Jessops to make way for a new 5-storey Bioncubator building (part of the Universitys drive to start new companies - theyve just floated a biotech commercialisation company called BioFusion on the AIM (http://www.shef.ac.uk/mediacentre/2005/275.html)).

Not sure what their plans are for the old jessops building itself - parts of it are lovely, so i hope they fix it up nicely.

CJB444
18-02-2005, 13:02
Like I said......the Victorian Gothic Part is to Remain and turned into academic usage.

The 1930s (ish) section opposite St. Georges Church is to be Demolished.

Darren
21-03-2005, 12:10
As I understand Jessops Hospital was donated to the people of Sheffield by Sheffield Industialist and benefactor Thomas Jessop so how come its ended up in the hands ofSheffield University?

zippy
21-03-2005, 22:44
in every likelihood in 1948 it became part of the NHS, having passed through the various Health authorities in sheffield it became part of CSUH at that point still NHS property.

when the new jessop wing was built to the rear of the RHH the site became surplus to NHS requirements and the NHS sold it to the uni

Darren
22-03-2005, 08:19
Thanks Zippy
Please can you help with my point which is,

Thomas Jessop gave for free, no payment required a philanthropists donation, this hospital to the people of Sheffield.

Similarly Mark Firth of Firth Brown Steel gave Firth Park to the people of Sheffield.

Isn't this like the Council giving Firth Park to developers to create Housing orsome other commercial project.

My point being whoever has given/sold Jessops Hospital to the University is not theirs to give/sell on.

Can anyone clarify for me?

spiffymonkey
22-03-2005, 11:21
Originally posted by CJB444
The Old Victorian Jessop Building is to remain and be thoroughly spruced up (could do with a good old clean!), it actually looks nice to see the whole thing without that horrible 60s block in front of it.

It is a crying shame that such a lovely building has been ruined by neglect, even before it was abandoned! My first child was born there in 1999, and I can still remember the quarter inch layer of grime on all the surfaces, and the thin slimy covering on the toilet walls. Truly a disgrace to the NHS.

zippy
22-03-2005, 11:33
Originally posted by Darren
Thanks Zippy
Please can you help with my point which is,

Thomas Jessop gave for free, no payment required a philanthropists donation, this hospital to the people of Sheffield.

Similarly Mark Firth of Firth Brown Steel gave Firth Park to the people of Sheffield.

Isn't this like the Council giving Firth Park to developers to create Housing orsome other commercial project.

My point being whoever has given/sold Jessops Hospital to the University is not theirs to give/sell on.

Can anyone clarify for me?

prior to 1948 hospitals were either priivate, owned by the local councils or by what are effectively charities, these assests were transferred to the NHS at the time, legally and above board

it is the NHS who own the property and do with as they see fit .

if a local authority decisded to develop all or part of it's property that is their right to do so

giving things " to the people of <settlement>" doesn't have a legal basis, either the donor retains title and allows access frelly or the title is passed to some other body - often thelocal council and in thecase of hrealth care establishments that title hwas often transferred to the NHS in 1948 ( hospitals) or 1974 ( community health services and the ambulance service )

x_LoUiSe_x
22-03-2005, 11:40
as we speak my b/f is ferrying all the ruble away in his tipper. if u wanna see whats left all the rubble is being taken to hagues yard near meadowhall :p

stoofa
22-03-2005, 19:52
Zippy knows his stuff! What is now Sheffield Teaching Hospitals sold it on to the uni in 2002 - and partly exchanged it for some buildings the Uni owned near the Hallamshire Hospital campus that are now used for NHS use.

In fairness the services of the Jessop were replaced with the new Jessop Wing building so hopefully Thomas J probably won't be turning in his grave too much.

Tony
22-03-2005, 21:07
Originally posted by Darren
As I understand Jessops Hospital was donated to the people of Sheffield by Sheffield Industialist and benefactor Thomas Jessop so how come its ended up in the hands ofSheffield University?
Simple. They paid NHS Estates £4.2m. That's one of the ways new modern hospitals are paid for.

I'm sure that Thomas Jessop would approve.

sallonoroff
17-01-2007, 13:29
Anyone who's interested might like to know that there won't be much left of Jessops by the end of this week...


(btw, here's the university's page about the redevelopment... http://www.shef.ac.uk/jessop )


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Stockers
22-01-2007, 09:08
Looks like the Sheffield Star have been trawling the net for stories again.

http://www.sheffieldtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1984998

JFKvsNixon
22-01-2007, 09:59
As I understand Jessops Hospital was donated to the people of Sheffield by Sheffield Industialist and benefactor Thomas Jessop so how come its ended up in the hands ofSheffield University?

The new Jessops wing at the Royal Hallamshire (it is in effect a new maternity hospital) is a fitting monument to Thomas Jessop.

Darren
22-01-2007, 10:05
Was it Sheffield Universitys to sell or even giveaway ?

JFKvsNixon
22-01-2007, 10:16
Was it Sheffield Universitys to sell or even giveaway ?

It belonged to the NHS, so it was theirs to to what ever they saw fit. Sheffield teaching hospitals sold it to help finance the building of the new Jessops hospital.

butchill
22-01-2007, 10:44
but if it was given to the people of SHEFFIELD how did it become the property of the NHS it sounds very dodgy to me

Ok when the Nhs took over in 1948 the biulding was still able to be used by the Nhs but when it became no longer viable to use as a hospital the proceeds from the sale should have been sheffieds I cannot see the argument that the money was used to build the new one is valid

JFKvsNixon
22-01-2007, 10:53
but if it was given to the people of SHEFFIELD how did it become the property of the NHS it sounds very dodgy to me

Ok when the Nhs took over in 1948 the biulding was still able to be used by the Nhs but when it became no longer viable to use as a hospital the proceeds from the sale should have been sheffieds I cannot see the argument that the money was used to build the new one is valid

The only people to profited from the sale of the Jessops hospital are the people of sheffield, they have now got a state of the art brand new modern hospital. Can you think of a better way to spend the money? Surely it is what Thomas Jessop would have wanted.

butchill
22-01-2007, 11:03
The only people to profited from the sale of the Jessops hospital are the people of sheffield, they have now got a state of the art brand new modern hospital. Can you think of a better way to spend the money? Surely it is what Thomas Jessop would have wanted.

NO the government have a legal duty to build the hospitals out of the money everybody pays in NI not use a benefactors donation as a back door tax, the man would have been very wealthy and when he died the reatives would have had to pay what was known then as death duties which were probably a lot of money and then on top of that 4.2 million from the sale if he knew he would turn in his grave