View Full Version : Should SWFC be kicked out of FA Cup...


Blade1983
17-01-2008, 13:36
..... for intentionally getting Tuesday's Cup Match called off?

see link:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Laws-39very-confident39-of.3683876.jp

Clearly they had a pitch cover, and undersoil heating, prior to Tuesday's rain, but obviously didn't use it.

Then Fatty Laws comes out on Tuesday and says that he's pretty pleased it got called off because players were carrying knocks, and Robson would have been in crowd to scout them out.

And now, with two further days of rain to go, the pitch is going to be fine.

Kick them out of the CUP - even though they'll go out anyway!

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 14:47
To be honest, whilst I believe there is foul play from Wednesday, it would be virtually impossible to prove.

The cover will have been rented from somewhere after the abandonment of the Derby game. The undersoil heating may or may not have been on, but I can't see that affecting the amount of water in the pitch by much.

I do however believe there may have been some watering of the pitch to make it worse than it was. But is this cheating or cleverness? I think both.

Blade1983
17-01-2008, 14:53
my original post was more tongue in cheek than anything....... but they certainly got tuesday's game postponed intentionally.

SpeedwayDan
17-01-2008, 15:10
my original post was more tongue in cheek than anything....... but they certainly got tuesday's game postponed intentionally.

how do you know it was a certainty?

The undersoil heating now being switched on will just help dry the pitch out, but without the cover it would have no effect what so ever.

I just believe they didn't know if the ammount of rainfall predicted for mon/tue would effect the pitch that much, but now with the second abandonment of the season, they realise they've got to splash (excuse the pun) the cash and rent a cover to prevent further problems.

A cover is by no means a great idea for grass, but it will help temporarily.

boboskins
17-01-2008, 15:15
It seems that SWFC have forked out £15k for the hire of the cover. So the possibility of losing cash from Sky has probably played a part in the decision.

EyeSpy
17-01-2008, 15:41
Undersoil does not make any difference to a waterlogged pitch. What did you want them to do boil the pitch :hihi:

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 15:44
I am sure a certain mr richards will have a word with brooking to learn how to deflect any thoughts of this.:)
I am amazed though that a massive club like the blue lot haven't the means or knowledge to try and save a pitch that has been down only 6 months.
How much would a new pitch cost if it needed to be relaid.
From the picture i saw the pitch looked seriously damaged.
Now take what i have said and think how cricket grounds act when there is rain, instant cover.
Now i am only assuming this but i would think that the groundstaff are salaried so it would be only a few phonecalls for help to be found.
So as the question suggets was there foul play?

Blade1983
17-01-2008, 15:46
Undersoil does not make any difference to a waterlogged pitch. What did you want them to do boil the pitch :hihi:

no - but extra rain does - so a cover would have been a good call before now!

NERVY-OWL
17-01-2008, 16:02
they might of not realised the rain would give the pitch this much trouble, maybe the rain covers were wrecked in the floods and they hadnt replaced it yet thinking the pitch would hold out. i cant remember the last time we had any game canceled because of a waterlogged pitch, only since the flooding has it got so bad. after the floods they said it could take upto a year for the ground to get back to how it was. i cant see why they would intentionally get it cancelled, not worth the trouble. are you going to use this as an excuse if you get beat on saturday

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:07
There are many reasons why it would be a good idea to cancel the game.

So they can have it in good enough condition to play the game against us which is on sky and this brings tv money.

Injuries to 4 players who are now being given fitness tests.

To stop Bryan Robson getting a good view of your lot live before the game on Saturday.

To make sure no players were as fatigued as they may be.

To try and be able to sell more tickets for the re-arranged game next week.

They're just off top of my head too.

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 16:16
Or could it be more sinister than that Robbie?
The Times article i mentioned in an earlier post suggested Wednesday had to sell possibly 5 players to stave off administration.
Now if i had an eye on a player i wanted to buy i wouldn't want him playing any more games in the bad conditions that are sweeping the country.
It is all if's and buts but it does make you wonder.
Now didn't the blue lot find something to say about the battle of bramall lane?
Shoe on other foot and they dont like it.

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:18
But it could also be taking them out the shop window by not enabling them to play in a game where it is an easier time to watch a player.

NERVY-OWL
17-01-2008, 16:18
if you blunts want to make up things then go ahead, just dont use it as an excuse if we beat you saturday. just because we get a couple of games called off we get accused of eating. i woder if you blunts would be saying the same thing if we werent playing you saturday

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:21
if you blunts want to make up things then go ahead, just dont use it as an excuse if we beat you saturday. just because we get a couple of games called off we get accused of eating. i woder if you blunts would be saying the same thing if we werent playing you saturday

I'm just giving you examples as to why you may have wanted the game called off. Not saying they are true, but each and everyone is a POSSIBILITY.

There is no excuses coming from me, we have enough talent in our squad to beat you easily, but I also think that about most squads we play in this league, but it never happens.

By the way, I would never accuse you of eating ;)

willman
17-01-2008, 16:22
i think everyone point made is valid - totally speculative but valid as an opinion.

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 16:25
The article in the Times was fairly accurate and probaly a true reflection of what is going on at Hillsbro'

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:25
i think everyone point made is valid - totally speculative but valid as an opinion.

Exactly, whether there is truth behind them or not, we will probably never ever know.

But its all irrelevant anyways, its 11 vs 11 come saturday :D

NERVY-OWL
17-01-2008, 16:27
yea, there will be trouble if you accuse us of eating:) all i'm saying is after the floods it was always going to take upto a year to get the ground right, the pitch didnt have chance to settle before season started so theres no wonder the rain is terrible. there could be any reason they didnt have a cover before derby game and the administration thing i dont really believe much, besides they wouldnt have to sel any of the players that would of been playing

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 16:28
But it could also be taking them out the shop window by not enabling them to play in a game where it is an easier time to watch a player.

The players that would command a decent fee will have already been watched i would have thought.
There was rumours for a while for such players like simek, whelan etc.

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:33
The players that would command a decent fee will have already been watched i would have thought.
There was rumours for a while for such players like simek, whelan etc.

I worded it wrong FD,

What I'm saying is, most managers will be at their own games when when Wednesday were playing too. So it would be a good opportunity to see a player live for themselves on a night they aren't playing and Wednesday are. Against a prem side too.

I have no doubt scouts would be at the game to watch them on a more regular basis.

NERVY-OWL
17-01-2008, 16:36
yea, so it wouldnt matter too much about the derby game, they will know which players are any good, if any:)

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:42
yea, so it wouldnt matter too much about the derby game, they will know which players are any good, if any:)

Not neccesarily.

Soimetimes a manager goes to watch a team to decipher how his own team should play. Try and pick out weaknesses in certain individuals etc.

willman
17-01-2008, 16:43
Not neccesarily.

Soimetimes a manager goes to watch a team to decipher how his own team should play. Try and pick out weaknesses in certain individuals etc.

a quick update for Mr Robinson - if he can keep the ball away from the blue and white shirts everything will be fine for him.
it's that easy.

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:44
Robinson...?

willman
17-01-2008, 16:45
Robinson...?

christ i don't even know which thread i'm on. sorry Mr Robson.

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:46
christ i don't even know which thread i'm on. sorry Mr Robson.

Lol :D don't worry.

I'm thinking up excuses for us losing sat :(

SpeedwayDan
17-01-2008, 16:49
Lol :D don't worry.

I'm thinking up excuses for us losing sat :(

you're players where a little fatigued after such a long journey to the match:hihi:

Robbie Loving
17-01-2008, 16:50
you're players where a little fatigued after such a long journey to the match:hihi:

Well the coaches for the fans are setting off at 11.15

What the hell are they going to do?

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 17:31
It will take them 1 hour to get the snorkelling gear on.

mack69
17-01-2008, 17:34
It will take them 1 hour to get the snorkelling gear on.

i cant wait til chubby brown or any other comedian dies F.D is waiting in the wings :P to take over:rolleyes:

freyasdad
17-01-2008, 17:38
I try sometimes mtk and yes i know i am very trying.:)

mack69
17-01-2008, 17:43
no worries fella so long as we all keep :D

mack69
17-01-2008, 17:48
if the game this saturday is called off dont worry it will soon be feb and its about time wednesday won at the lane (its our turn joe ashton says so :gag:)

SpeedwayDan
17-01-2008, 18:04
Well the coaches for the fans are setting off at 11.15

What the hell are they going to do?

11.15? haha, must be taking the scenic route:hihi:

igm1
17-01-2008, 19:57
Christ, what is it with you blades and calling everyone cheats?

What about when you got that WBA game cancelled a few seasons ago? I think that was more obvious cheating than a conspiracy about our pitch.

gritter1960
17-01-2008, 20:02
It seems that SWFC have forked out £15k for the hire of the cover. So the possibility of losing cash from Sky has probably played a part in the decision.

£15k to rent a gazeebo bit steep that almost verticle:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Heyesey
18-01-2008, 02:31
Christ, what is it with you blades and calling everyone cheats?

What about when you got that WBA game cancelled a few seasons ago? I think that was more obvious cheating than a conspiracy about our pitch.

You mean the one where we requested that the result should stand and we should lose?

Farmboy
18-01-2008, 06:27
Christ, what is it with you blades and calling everyone cheats?

It's the Warnock legacy mate. Did you ever see any of his post-match interviews. Frequently accusing the other team or the ref of cheating. After how ever many seasons of watching him moan it's been programmed into every blade's mind that everyone but them is a cheater. :)

trophyman
18-01-2008, 07:59
Or could it be more sinister than that Robbie?
The Times article i mentioned in an earlier post suggested Wednesday had to sell possibly 5 players to stave off administration.
Now if i had an eye on a player i wanted to buy i wouldn't want him playing any more games in the bad conditions that are sweeping the country.
It is all if's and buts but it does make you wonder.
Now didn't the blue lot find something to say about the battle of bramall lane?
Shoe on other foot and they dont like it.

and what punishment did you lot get for the battle of bumhole lane?

igm1
18-01-2008, 11:50
You mean the one where we requested that the result should stand and we should lose?

Did your club release a statement as such? I don't recall

Still wouldn't change the fact that SUFC's conduct during that game was a disgrace to football.

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 12:40
..... for intentionally getting Tuesday's Cup Match called off?

see link:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Laws-39very-confident39-of.3683876.jp

Clearly they had a pitch cover, and undersoil heating, prior to Tuesday's rain, but obviously didn't use it.

Then Fatty Laws comes out on Tuesday and says that he's pretty pleased it got called off because players were carrying knocks, and Robson would have been in crowd to scout them out.

And now, with two further days of rain to go, the pitch is going to be fine.

Kick them out of the CUP - even though they'll go out anyway!

Agree totally with you mate! If, (as other posters say) they may not have had a pitch cover it would be stupidity of the highest degree considering that all the area had been under a flood warning for days. Perhaps they should spend more money on taking care of their playing surface instead of legal bills to sue their own fans!
Apparently, and this has come 2nd hand from The Lane but from a good source, a representative of United (can't say who because it came from a player and I may get him in bother) tried to gain access to Hillborough on the day of the Derby game to view the pitch conditions and was refused by Wednesday. The plot thickens!
Let face it if we beat Wednesday yet again (double last time)attendances will drop even further at Hillsborough and Mr Laws job will be even more at risk. SWFC are running scared and do not wish to risk any players in a cup game when beating us is a priority for them. It's a shame for the fans, including Owls, when clubs deliberately postpone games. The best team will win on the day! I hope it's the Blades but if it's the Owls then all Unitedites will have to face the gloating over the weekend and next week!

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 12:51
Christ, what is it with you blades and calling everyone cheats?

What about when you got that WBA game cancelled a few seasons ago? I think that was more obvious cheating than a conspiracy about our pitch.

We never got a game cancelled. The referee at the time went by the rules that if we couldn't have 7+ players on the pitch, then the game should be abandoned.

How can we be called cheats for that? I may also suggest before you respond to this that you check all facts that are relevant to this game before making yourself look foolish.

Did your club release a statement as such? I don't recall.

It was in Neil Warnocks post match comments, and I believe a statement would have been released saying as much.

Heyesey
18-01-2008, 13:14
We never got a game cancelled. The referee at the time went by the rules that if we couldn't have 7+ players on the pitch, then the game should be abandoned.

How can we be called cheats for that? I may also suggest before you respond to this that you check all facts that are relevant to this game before making yourself look foolish.

It's no more foolish than trying to make out that SWFC would get a cup-tie cancelled on purpose. As such, it probably deserves to be in this thread.

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 13:17
It's no more foolish than trying to make out that SWFC would get a cup-tie cancelled on purpose. As such, it probably deserves to be in this thread.

Maybe you're correct.

But Sheffield United were cleared of any wrong doing in their so called "cheating" attempt.

Wednesday are yet to be cleared..... and will probably never even be looked in to. Maybe thats an oversight by the FA, maybe not.

UrbanCaveman
18-01-2008, 13:19
Maybe you're correct.

But Sheffield United were cleared of any wrong doing in their so called "cheating" attempt.

Wednesday are yet to be cleared..... and will probably never even be looked in to. Maybe thats an oversight by the FA, maybe not.

So the fact Sheff United were investigated and cleared on any wrongdoing is somehow better that Wednesday not being investigated at all?

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 13:24
So the fact Sheff United were investigated and cleared on any wrongdoing is somehow better that Wednesday not being investigated at all?

Very much so. The Blades were deemed 100% innocent, can this be said of the owls? Afraid not.

UrbanCaveman
18-01-2008, 13:27
Very much so. The Blades were deemed 100% innocent, can this be said of the owls? Afraid not.

Erm, I think it can, since no investigation is going to happen, thats 100% innocent in the eyes of the law.

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 13:28
Erm, I think it can, since no investigation is going to happen, thats 100% innocent in the eyes of the law.

Just because no investigation is to happen, doesn't mean they are innocent.

UrbanCaveman
18-01-2008, 13:30
Just because no investigation is to happen, doesn't mean they are innocent.

Erm, yes it does legally. Exactly the same way United were found to have done nothing wrong legally.

trial by media would be much fairer eh?

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 13:34
Erm, yes it does legally. Exactly the same way United were found to have done nothing wrong legally.

trial by media would be much fairer eh?

The facts stand that United can't be re-trialled, the owls can be trialled.

As said, all of it is hearsay and even if the owls were guilty it would be extremely hard to prove.

F. Sidebottom
18-01-2008, 14:08
Maybe we did get it called off on purpose.

But if we did, so what?

You're going to stuff us anyway tomorrow aren't you?

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 14:16
Erm, yes it does legally. Exactly the same way United were found to have done nothing wrong legally.

trial by media would be much fairer eh?

Actually Caveman, United could have asked for the West Brom match to be replayed but chose to issue a statement to the F.A. that they thought in the interest of fairness the result at the time the match was abandoned should stand. This was before the FA had even investigated the incident. Not really the actions of cheats is it?

Truth be known we had some stupid players at the time but lets break it down.
Simon Tracey...sent off for handling ball outside area 9 mins in. Cannot accuse him of cheating at this early stage of the game.

Georges Santos...sent off for an horrendous challenge on Andy Johnson. Nothing to do with instructions from Warnock. Santos had received a fractured cheekbone and eyesocket from Johnson the previous season. Simple revenge I'd say. Santos was got rid of because of this incident. Never played for Blades again! Not the action of cheats!

BOTH TEAMS had a mass battle on the pitch which ended in Suffo being sent off for an head butt. I was at the match and never heard Warnock say anything to instigate the fight or ask Suffo to act like a thug. Suffo was also got rid of as a direct result of this incident. Never played for Blades again.

Michael Brown was injured late on and went off late on. Because we had used our subs we couldn't replace him. Michael Brown was out for the rest of the season so doubt he was cheating.

Ullathorne was injured with about 10 mins left. There were rumours that he was seen running down the tunnel after he had limped off. This rumour was later found to come from a WBA sub. Not exactly guilty as charged is it?

United were fined £10,000 for not controlling players. No cheating mentioned.

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 14:21
Ullathorne was also out for 4 weeks after too I think it was.

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 14:33
Ullathorne was also out for 4 weeks after too I think it was.

I think your right. He was out for about a month.

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 14:34
The thing is the mob from s6 are clutching at all sorts of straws to get an advantage in their cup final.
The mere mention of them doing anything wrong and they start going RED in the face.
I hope they have got the game on tuesday postponed so as to concentrate on tomorrows because it will become all the more sweeter at the end of the match.
Ashton get ready for the flood of e-mails, now he is a total w----r.
UTB

Heyesey
18-01-2008, 14:37
Very much so. The Blades were deemed 100% innocent, can this be said of the owls? Afraid not.

So, the Blades were under enough suspicion to warrant an investigation; the Owls are under no suspicion at all, and there's no reason even to investigate.

And you think that means the Owls are more likely to have done something underhand? :loopy:

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 14:43
So, the Blades were under enough suspicion to warrant an investigation; the Owls are under no suspicion at all, and there's no reason even to investigate.

And you think that means the Owls are more likely to have done something underhand? :loopy:

The only suspicion came from one Gary Megson, who claimed certain things happened. Of course a full investigation is required when such statements are made by a key member of an opposing team. The outcome of the case NOT GUILTY.

Who ever said there was no reason to investigate what happens at the Hillsborough? Even if the FA/Derby smelled foul play, as said they would be highly unlikely to look in to it as it is near impossible to prove.

Shall I put some emoticons at the bottom of my paragraphs to make myself look clever now? :D:gag::suspect::rant::loopy::hihi::help: etc etc

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 14:53
It is just another sorry episode in the recent history of the blue mob.

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 14:54
So, the Blades were under enough suspicion to warrant an investigation; the Owls are under no suspicion at all, and there's no reason even to investigate.

And you think that means the Owls are more likely to have done something underhand? :loopy:

Of course the Owls haven't done anything wrong!:roll: They never heard the constant flood warnings on tv and radio so saw no reason to cover the pitch for the cup game. Even Havant and Waterlooville covered their pitch in anticipation of heavy rain.

Wasn't the Owls cup tie the only game in the whole country to be called off?

The Blades were under no suspicion of anything except not controlling their players!
They weren't investigated for anything else.

The only team in Sheffield that has ever been convicted of anything to do with match fixing or the ilk is Sheffield Wednesday.
In 1965 three wednesday players were convicted of betting on and throwing a game against Ipswich. About 10 other players and ex players of the Owls were convicted of running illegal betting sydicates on wednesday matches and others.

They got caught for fixing one game. Wonder how many more they didn't get caught for?

Sorry mate your argument holds no water. United are, and always have been whiter than white. History proves the Owls haven't.

This of course doesn't prove that the game was sabotaged by not covering the pitch, it just means it looks fishy, don't you think?

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 15:00
Wasn't the Owls cup tie the only game in the whole country to be called off?

No, 2 other big clubs had their games called off, Bristol Rovers and Barnet.

mack69
18-01-2008, 15:17
The thing is the mob from s6 are clutching at all sorts of straws to get an advantage in their cup final.
The mere mention of them doing anything wrong and they start going RED in the face.
I hope they have got the game on tuesday postponed so as to concentrate on tomorrows because it will become all the more sweeter at the end of the match.
Ashton get ready for the flood of e-mails, now he is a total w----r.
UTB

we know what cup finals are like do you ? ever witnessed your team in 1 ? we know the difference between a derby and a cup final do you ?

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 15:35
No, 2 other big clubs had their games called off, Bristol Rovers and Barnet.

I stand corrected. Like the big clubs quip:hihi:

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 15:36
we know what cup finals are like do you ? ever witnessed your team in 1 ? we know the difference between a derby and a cup final do you ?

Here we go. The owls will be bringing 1979 up in a while. YAWN!:hihi:

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 15:51
we know what cup finals are like do you ? ever witnessed your team in 1 ? we know the difference between a derby and a cup final do you ?

Er.... yes yes I have :D

Maybe not with the Blades being involved though ;) or does the steel city cup final count?

Funky_Gibbon
18-01-2008, 15:55
Now didn't the blue lot find something to say about the battle of bramall lane?
Shoe on other foot and they dont like it.

Actually we couldn't give a damn. Keep believing we care about your sad conspiracy theories if it makes you happy though ;)

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:01
Here we go. The owls will be bringing 1979 up in a while. YAWN!:hihi:

think you just have :rolleyes:see you just cant forget it can ya ?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0

^^^song for you by the way^^^
He wears high heels, suspenders and A BRA?!?!?!?!?!?!

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 16:01
Actually we couldn't give a damn. Keep believing we care about your sad conspiracy theories if it makes you happy though ;)

You will see enough biting that some actually do ;)

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:02
Er.... yes yes I have :D

Maybe not with the Blades being involved though ;) or does the steel city cup final count?

for you rob YES it does i stand corrected ;)

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:07
Why mention it then years later?
The fact the Flaws keeps mentioning United and how to keep up with us in the league, you can only imagine what he is saying about this match.
Does the truth hurt and is the pressure starting to tell then fg? Like i said earlier getting a bit flustered aren't we?
Your last response is the reason we keep on about having more money than you, better ground than you, better team than you, more fans than you and finally a board/chairman that has ambition.
UP THE BETTER THAN YEOOW BLADES.:)

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:09
UP THE BETTER THAN YEOOW BLADES.:)


would that be the new brummie blades f.d ?

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:11
Yes how did you guess?
But the link was Enfield's character loads of money, he was a brummie wasn't he?

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:15
i think the presure is on the blades team and fans
most people expect us to lose so out better than that is a bonus for wednesday
but if the blades lose or draw would you blades take a draw now if it was offered ?

on another note i here sky have paid for the cover on the pitch to help get the game on dont know if there is any truth in this

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:16
Yes how did you guess?
But the link was Enfield's character loads of money, he was a brummie wasn't he?

no mate loadsa money is how much west ham made after you went down :P

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:18
Makes sense MTK for sky to do this.
On the other hand again it doesn't look good for Wednesday if they rely on televsion to keep the pitch in order.

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:19
Makes sense MTK for sky to do this.
On the other hand again it doesn't look good for Wednesday if they rely on televsion to keep the pitch in order.

i agree but who cares if the game gets the go ahead i would not mind if mcabe had paid for it so long as we get a match

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:19
no mate loadsa money is how much west ham made after you went down :P

Oh that hurt MTK. Above the belt plaese if you dont mind.

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:21
Oh that hurt MTK. Above the belt plaese if you dont mind.

im sure i will get a bit back from you fellas ;)

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 16:22
no mate loadsa money is how much west ham made after you went down :P

Good one :D

As for taking a draw, yes I would.

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:25
As for taking a draw, yes I would.

really rob ? would you see that as a good result for your lot then?
you surprise me

lumberjack48
18-01-2008, 16:26
think you just have :rolleyes:see you just cant forget it can ya ?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0

^^^song for you by the way^^^
He wears high heels, suspenders and A BRA?!?!?!?!?!?!

No I can't forget it Mack. It was a good kicking. Probably the last one you gave us. Think last time we played in the same division we did the double over you and completely outclassed you in both games. Wasn't that the season we were promoted to the Prem and you barely survived.

By the way Mack, a lot of Blades and owls won't remember your cup win as they weren't born or were too young to attend. Wasn't it in 1991? 17 years ago! You just can't forget it can ya?:hihi:

Face it Mack, Blades have a better ground, team, board and more money, not to mention better league position than Wednesday.
I won't say we have a better manager though as I'm a big fan of Laws. United are currently Sheffield's top club!

I will admit that Wednesday used to be the top club in Sheffield though. Times change Mack!

Up the Blades and good luck to Brian Laws and his team in their relegation battle!:D

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:27
i agree but who cares if the game gets the go ahead

You are right with that one MTK.

Robbie Loving
18-01-2008, 16:27
really rob ? would you see that as a good result for your lot then?
you surprise me

A draw away I would always deem a decent result, but sadly I see us losing this, as we do normally against lesser teams ;)

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:31
im off to get pished see you all on here after the game (if its on)

enjoy and keep safe from all the scum blue and red alike lets all hope a good 4.4 draw

mack69
18-01-2008, 16:32
A draw away I would always deem a decent result, but sadly I see us losing this, as we do normally against lesser teams ;)

see told ya f.d i would get some back;)

freyasdad
18-01-2008, 16:38
ALL i can say MTK is watch this space.
An unusual event could occur at your place tomorrow.

Lodgemoorman
18-01-2008, 20:18
I never realised that United supporters were so hooked on conspiracy theories.

mgblade
18-01-2008, 23:39
as a blade will tell you what i heard today,
a wednesday mate told me he was at cardiff last saturday, he talked to some fans who are good friends of the groundsman AND he said if it had been a home match last saturday it would have got called off due to state of the pitch!!!
all due to the low water table at that part of the city, and the area being saturated.
which is backed up by the guy whos co put in the tanks for the nearby petrol station, and told me the tanks started floating after dropping them into the hole that was dug!!!!

jibbs1977
20-01-2008, 00:43
I never realised that United supporters were so hooked on conspiracy theories.


Atleast it wont be a wednesday fan getting sued this time for such stupid comments. Just be thankful Dave allen isnt in charge no more he would have your snorters for garters :hihi:.

brooksy
20-01-2008, 09:09
A draw away I would always deem a decent result, but sadly I see us losing this, as we do normally against lesser teams ;)Good call there Rob.Esp the lesser team bit.:hihi::hihi:

Robbie Loving
20-01-2008, 09:12
Good call there Rob.Esp the lesser team bit.:hihi::hihi:

Anything for you baby :D

smithy owls
20-01-2008, 18:18
To be honest, whilst I believe there is foul play from Wednesday, it would be virtually impossible to prove.

The cover will have been rented from somewhere after the abandonment of the Derby game. The undersoil heating may or may not have been on, but I can't see that affecting the amount of water in the pitch by much.

I do however believe there may have been some watering of the pitch to make it worse than it was. But is this cheating or cleverness? I think both.

nothihg like a brainless snorter

smithy owls
20-01-2008, 18:21
inst it good all these utd snorters know how to use a pc
up the owls and who knoes there maybe an earthquake at s2

smithy owls
20-01-2008, 18:26
Agree totally with you mate! If, (as other posters say) they may not have had a pitch cover it would be stupidity of the highest degree considering that all the area had been under a flood warning for days. Perhaps they should spend more money on taking care of their playing surface instead of legal bills to sue their own fans!
Apparently, and this has come 2nd hand from The Lane but from a good source, a representative of United (can't say who because it came from a player and I may get him in bother) tried to gain access to Hillborough on the day of the Derby game to view the pitch conditions and was refused by Wednesday. The plot thickens!
Let face it if we beat Wednesday yet again (double last time)attendances will drop even further at Hillsborough and Mr Laws job will be even more at risk. SWFC are running scared and do not wish to risk any players in a cup game when beating us is a priority for them. It's a shame for the fans, including Owls, when clubs deliberately postpone games. The best team will win on the day! I hope it's the Blades but if it's the Owls then all Unitedites will have to face the gloating over the weekend and next week!
do u own a brain snorter,keep robson he knows how to take clubs down

Jazzybmzoo
20-01-2008, 18:40
Why mention it then years later?
The fact the Flaws keeps mentioning United and how to keep up with us in the league, you can only imagine what he is saying about this match.
Does the truth hurt and is the pressure starting to tell then fg? Like i said earlier getting a bit flustered aren't we?
Your last response is the reason we keep on about having more money than you, better ground than you, better team than you, more fans than you and finally a board/chairman that has ambition.
UP THE BETTER THAN YEOOW BLADES.:)

A-HAAAA! HAAAA! HAAAA! [dries eyes]

HAAAA! HOOOOO! HOOOO! HAAAAA!

Jazzybmzoo
20-01-2008, 18:47
..... for intentionally getting Tuesday's Cup Match called off?

see link:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/LATEST-Laws-39very-confident39-of.3683876.jp

Clearly they had a pitch cover, and undersoil heating, prior to Tuesday's rain, but obviously didn't use it.

Then Fatty Laws comes out on Tuesday and says that he's pretty pleased it got called off because players were carrying knocks, and Robson would have been in crowd to scout them out.

And now, with two further days of rain to go, the pitch is going to be fine.

Kick them out of the CUP - even though they'll go out anyway!

What about United's effort against Arsenal last year, when it looked as if The Dark Lord/Warnock had been bezzing his tractor up & down it, just to stop Arsenal passing?

Robbie Loving
20-01-2008, 20:07
nothihg like a brainless snorter

Prove I'm wrong, it's that simple. We can't prove it either way, my opinion was that there is foul play. I'm not say there was.

inst it good all these utd snorters know how to use a pc
up the owls and who knoes there maybe an earthquake at s2

Dear oh dear, whilst it is good that us "utd snorters" can use computers, should we band all owls in to the illiterate scale? The amount of bad English in your 2 posts suggest that you are in fact mentally retarded.

mack69
20-01-2008, 20:22
Dear oh dear, whilst it is good that us "utd snorters" can use computers, should we band all owls in to the illiterate scale? The amount of bad English in your 2 posts suggest that you are in fact mentally retarded.

:D;) ive been waiting for your response rob made me chuckle that did

Robbie Loving
20-01-2008, 20:56
:D;) ive been waiting for you response rob made me chuckle that did

I don't like personal insults as you will know MTK, but he is bringing the IQ level of your fans down at an unreal rate.

mebe a shud tork lik dis do? peraps e can undastand.

mack69
20-01-2008, 20:58
mebe a shud tork lik dis do? peraps e can undastand.

mebe da reight :D still smriking tho ;)

Robbie Loving
20-01-2008, 21:00
mebe da reight :D still smriking tho ;)

Smriking :D LOL, fantastic

lumberjack48
21-01-2008, 19:04
do u own a brain snorter,keep robson he knows how to take clubs down

Wot a dick

arsenal
21-01-2008, 19:16
What about United's effort against Arsenal last year, when it looked as if The Dark Lord/Warnock had been bezzing his tractor up & down it, just to stop Arsenal passing?

What u r jokin