Just a thought today even without todays results.Given the size of our city and the amount of fans we have are you happy with the current state of affairs at both clubs.Given the financial state of both clubs,"utd loaded", "owls skint" do you think the lg positions are good enough.Forget all about who has the most money and stuff but are you happy going into the new year.Personally given Brian Laws position i think hes doing ok and for us on the manager front look ok.Off the field we look rank but if you look at qpr ete things can change pretty quick.Utd on the other hand have spent and if honest have struggled.My biggest gripe is seeing clubs like Wigan and Derby ete taking our place in the prem.;););)

Brooksy, we just cannot argue the facts... neither Sheffield clubs are good enough to be there on merit, they are both crap. however, take Dave Wheelan's money from Wigan or Fayads money from Fulham and both clubs are gone, but fair play to Derby, they did earn it honestly, as United did two seasons back, but without heavy financial backing they don't stand a chance of staying in the prem, and nor does anyone else.
Football as we remember it is shot..... think about this...Lampard, Cole, Rooney, Ronaldo or any top player will earn more in a few months than I or most people can earn in a lifetime!