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RandumDave 10-01-2008, 13:58 Im a bit miffed at the closure of good old traditional pubs, some people refer to em as old man pubs, but I just think of em as pubs that you can go sup a nice cold pint in without the hassle of loud music an sport hammering out of the speakers.
Dont get me wrong I enjoy those pubs too, its just sometimes i wanna go into a pub an relax an have a quiet beer. The sportsman, Cambridge street, The red lion charles street, think its the red deer behind west street, Broadfield abbeydale road, All pubs that have a traditional feel. Why do they have to get closed down? its a shame really, I spose i know ultimatly its about profit margins an all that rubbish. Am i the only person in sheffield that loves a decent traditional boozer?
The above pubs havent actually closed down btw, but i was using those style pubs as an example. I like them, I like to sit at a bar an talk to the landlord or barstaff, its interesting, an in most traditional style pubs you get all walks of life, which again adds to the variety of been in a decent pub. Am i the only one who wants decent traditional boozers? feel free to chip in :oP
BasilRathbon 10-01-2008, 14:07 No, you're not alone. (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=294324)
There's also a forum meet coming up next month which will be visiting just those sort of pubs. http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=290077
Not usre if you like real ale, but generally people who like traditional boozers also like traditional beer!
Flightlevel 10-01-2008, 14:17 If you're looking for decent and often traditional pubs in Sheffield and across the UK you can't go wrong with buying the 2008 Good Beer Guide: http://shop.camra.org.uk/DisplayDetail.aspx?prodid=212&secid=0
If ever you want a decent pub it is a bible from which you can quickly find one.
Also, and more specific to Sheffield the "Real Ale Guide to Sheffield" is excellent: http://shop.camra.org.uk/DisplayDetail.aspx?prodid=114 It lists all pubs in Sheffield and albeit the focus in on "real ale" this acts as an excellent indicator to the decent pubs that can be found right across Sheffield. As a tool for planning pub crawls it is well worth the £3.50. Some copies may also be on sale in Sheffield pubs still or direct from Sheffield CAMRA. http://www.sheffieldcamra.co.uk/
RandumDave 10-01-2008, 14:21 Im not a real ale drinker as such, but i do know what you mean more often than not a pub that serves cask beers (often made by local breweries) do tend to be good old ale houses. Personally my brew of choice is Guinness. I will have a squizz thru the afore mentioned book. Maybe ill find me a new local thats decent to sit in an have a cold un :o)
tifftifco2 10-01-2008, 14:23 old traditional pubs are the best by far welcoming, friendly and full of real down to earth people the men and women who worked the pits and steel industry like my grandad the people who have seen all the change and dont like it sheffield people are the best and i love sitting with the old men there stories are great real sheffield born and bread people people real pubs with fantastic atmospheres take me to the norfolk arms any time! (no insult meant to people of the wine bar going type im sure your all fantastic too).
BasilRathbon 10-01-2008, 14:24 Im not a real ale drinker as such, but i do know what you mean more often than not a pub that serves cask beers (often made by local breweries) do tend to be good old ale houses. Personally my brew of choice is Guinness. I will have a squizz thru the afore mentioned book. Maybe ill find me a new local thats decent to sit in an have a cold un :o)
If Guinness is your tipple, have you tried the city's Irish pubs? I mean the real ones like the Dog & Partirdge and Fagans rather than the "Plastic Paddy" theme pubs that were briefly fashionable a while back.
Flightlevel 10-01-2008, 14:27 Where abouts are you in Sheffield Dave? What area(s) are you looking for a new boozer in? Let me know and I may be able to offer you some pointers asap.
As for Basil's suggestion, I concur. Fagans (Broad Lane) and The Dog and Partridge (Trippet Lane) are excellent proper pubs for those favouring the black stuff. Of course there are many, many more pubs to hunt out too!
RandumDave 10-01-2008, 14:38 Im just looking for something in the city centre for a quiet dinner time pint or two, I used to frequent the sportsman on cambridge street, It was a decent old pub.
I live locally at woodseats so have a choice of pubs, The abbey is a personal fave but i can also walk down to millhouses an go into the Robin, altho the Robbin has a slight wine bar feel.
I do like the traditional pub feel tho as was posted above the decent folk you get in who are happy to share a story or just even acknowlege your existence with a nod an smile, you dont get it in most pubs which is a shame.
I havent tried the Irish bars but i may go have a look sometime as i have heard they are pretty good :)
Thanks for the positive response, always nice to see on the forum.
Albert Tross 10-01-2008, 14:45 http://www.thestar.co.uk/headlines/DEATH-OF-THE-PUB-Last.3656588.jp
jamtart27 10-01-2008, 14:52 well it was lovely in the red lion ,charles st last night , both fires lit all nice and warm whilst the weather raged outside. also tried the dog and partridge last saturday give me a pub with a fire anyday rather than the modern souless drinking places.
Do these pubs not close down because people vote with their feet and they become uneconomic? I think it can be a bit of a catch 22 where some people (including myself) can see the attraction of a nice quiet pub. Not a jostling crowd, not a queue at the bar. But unfortunately that also translates as not enough trade to make a profit.
RandumDave 10-01-2008, 14:55 yeah i agree, i went into the red lion at dinner time and the fire was blazing while it chucked it down outside, was one of the better pints ive had, really nice feel to the place.
Albert Tross 10-01-2008, 14:58 Thing is, by and large Town is geared towards people who are going to chuck money about and mostly thats young uns, students etc int it and it's safe to say i reckon that most of them dont mind being herded in and out of packed chrome pubs with no tradition.
Sad though.
toonarmani 10-01-2008, 15:13 If Guinness is your tipple, have you tried the city's Irish pubs? I mean the real ones like the Dog & Partirdge and Fagans rather than the "Plastic Paddy" theme pubs that were briefly fashionable a while back.
D&P - Good call basil :D
Nice pint and a chip butty :love::love::love:
the Crown and Glove AKA Top House in stannington tends to have 3 Guest beers on she does change them but i have known her to have hobgobblin, black sheep and stones she does get more but they seemed to be the ones everyione asked about when i worked there.
RandumDave 10-01-2008, 16:44 It is true that some pubs are created like cattle sheds for students and office ppl, (no offence intended) Get em in get em plied with loads of cheap booze 2 for ones, one pound shots. Its a case of booze britain i guess. people go out to get drunk out of thier skull so the cheaper the better. Its not a case of ppl voting with thier feet like Code13 suggests although dont get me wrong there are plenty of pubs where that is the case.
It would be nice to see a return of the traditional pub but I suspect they will die out under the big chain pubs boots.
hehe sound like a right old fart, but im not honnest :)
It would be nice to see a return of the traditional pub but I suspect they will die out under the big chain pubs boots.:)
This is the current trend and seems to be aimed at the younger generation who will keep them relatively profitable. What they don't seem to realise, or more likely don't care about, is that they are driving the older generation out of what they used to call their locals. Sadly, the pubs where you can go in for a quiet pint and a chat are disappearing rapidly, leaving the old 'uns with nowhere to go anymore. Today's younger generation will become tomorrows older generation and like me, will probably vote with their feet and stay away from the only pub type that will be left - the noisy plastic one! Nevermind, the pub trade management companies will continue as they have done since the breweries stopped running pubs and continue to alienate the older generation :loopy:
One thing that really annoys me is that so many people who supposedly like "locals" have abandoned them for the "real ale" ghetto in the vicinity of Kelham Island.
I used to work in a pub in Devon in 1966 and I really enjoyed having a chat (and a half) with the local regulars. We opened at 5.30 and for the first couple of hours it was great. If anyone wanted food I'd direct them to the dining room next door, giving them a menu and details of serving times. Then we'd get busy. At the same pub today, bar staff from the word go are so busy taking orders for food, setting the table, waiting at table, serving wine at table, clearing the table that the old 'having a chat to the regulars' routine is not par for the course. Shame. Round here in North Wales, I don't know of a pub which doesn't serve food. If it were just sandwiches and pies, wouldn't be too bad but big menus and specials boards are needed to bring in the punters and boost takings.
I saw a good old traditional boozer the other day.
He was about 75 and wearing a cloth cap and muffler and smoking a woodbine. He'd been boozing for about 60 years.
Unfortunately his local was now 2 miles away and last time he went they made him stand in the rain so that he could have a smoke. The cribbage board and darts board had been slung out and a gigantic screen erected showing people singing what they called rap music. The pub was full of teenagers sending each other text messages.
Beer was two quid fifty a pint and tasted like nothing like beer, in fact nothing on earth.
He was silently sobbing as I watched him shuffle off home with a carrier bag full of cans.
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