http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/9469.html

I really love the Star Trek Universe. To see it cancelled was awful.

Does anyone know of any plans for the future of the startrek universe or anything i can watch to geek my geekness flowing through my blood?

Cheers

I saw this a week or ten days ago and I was quite sad.

The last series was pretty good - some of the ideas about the Temporal Cold War were well worth following through.

Series 2 was a bit weak and I guess that it never regained lost ground.

Hope they give it a rip-roaring last series!

Joe

The Dvd collection is going to look quite silly with only 4 boxes on Enterprise... How is my OCD going to cope?

I've never watched an entire Star Trek episode and have no idea about all the different versions, but can someone tell me if this is the end of the line for Star Trek? I'm just interested in a culturally geeky way :)

I wish they had dragged Voyager out longer, though having said that we wouldn't be able to store any more videos (we have every episode).

Originally posted by nick2
I wish they had dragged Voyager out longer, though having said that we wouldn't be able to store any more videos (we have every episode).

i wish i had ... i used to love that series ... hated Captain Janeway to start but got to like her more and more as the series went on ...

First they steal Scott Bakula away from potential Quantum Leap movies/future episodes and then just when I was beginning to like him as a Captain (though he will never top Picard) its over!

Oh....... right....... thanks Star Trek... just give up why dont ya??

I was gutted to hear the news the last time I visited startrek.com, my other half heard of the cancellation before me and kept it to herself in order to spare me the anguish!

Personally I can't help but think that Enterprise would have fared better had it been running alongside another seires set in the TNG period, as that has become the mainstay for the Star Trek universe. It was a bold gamble to even commission the series in the first place as casual fans of both TNG period and TOS period series would be put off by the fact that it fits into neither.

The fact that it plucked Scott Backula from the mists of obscurity and put him back in a major tv series was welcome after having grwon up watching Quantum Leap.

Am I the only one who's still aching to find out who the shadowy figure directing the Suliban actually was?

Ah well, I'll just have to look forward to the second series of Battlestar Gallactica and hope that this isn't the last we've seen of Star Trek on the small screen.

Originally posted by Geoff
I've never watched an entire Star Trek episode and have no idea about all the different versions, but can someone tell me if this is the end of the line for Star Trek? I'm just interested in a culturally geeky way :)

Fingers crossed it is yeah :)

Originally posted by Lindseyw
Fingers crossed it is yeah :)
If only the same were true of Coronation Street...

Originally posted by Carmine
If only the same were true of Coronation Street...

Oh if only !!

it says in the article that they look forwards to another episode in the star trek saga (or something like that), so they aren't putting the nail in the coffin.

Even Manny Coto could not save Enterprise...it will be missed.

Originally posted by rubydazzler
i wish i had ... i used to love that series ... hated Captain Janeway to start but got to like her more and more as the series went on ...

I got them off E-bay for about £120, I think there are about 95 tapes, so you can imagine the size of the parcel.

I wasn't too sure about Voyager when it started but as it went on I think the characters became more realistic and you actually cared what happened to them more so than in TNG which I refer to as "Thespians In Space" due to the amount of overacting in it.

Originally posted by nick2
I got them off E-bay for about £120, I think there are about 95 tapes, so you can imagine the size of the parcel.

I wasn't too sure about Voyager when it started but as it went on I think the characters became more realistic and you actually cared what happened to them more so than in TNG which I refer to as "Thespians In Space" due to the amount of overacting in it.
I always thought that there were times when it seemed Patrick Stewart was surrounded by the cast of the Muppet Show!

Star Trek will be back. I just hope its sooner rather than later.

They need to make a Star Trek a little further in the future, with a change for the borg.

the change could be either:

1) The end of the Borg
2) The growth and major threat of the borg (Possibly killing off a major species)
3) Or the borg begin to understand emotions and slowly adapt in a civilised way (Boring but funny to watch)
4) Species 8472 Destroy the borg and threaten the alpha quadrant.

Oh dear... OH...sigh... dear...

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!

:mad:

Me is NOT happy........

I have seen every episode, the latest season was one of the best, it took a lot of stories and helped link stuff into older stories, for example, one with Noonian Soong (spell?) which explained that he wasn't such a decent person, he was involved in some nefarious things.

Also, they have done an arc on the vulcans explaining their culture and beliefs.

There was a lot of places this series could have gone, it had not explored it's full potential, if a petition is made to stop them cancelling it, I shall be definately signing it.

Originally posted by Kry10
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!

:mad:

Me is NOT happy........

I have seen every episode, the latest season was one of the best, it took a lot of stories and helped link stuff into older stories, for example, one with Noonian Soong (spell?) which explained that he wasn't such a decent person, he was involved in some nefarious things.

Also, they have done an arc on the vulcans explaining their culture and beliefs.

There was a lot of places this series could have gone, it had not explored it's full potential, if a petition is made to stop them cancelling it, I shall be definately signing it.
Wasn't that one of Noonien Soong's ancestors defending the rights of genetic supermen like Khan the nasty man from TOS and the second film?

Originally posted by Lickable
Star Trek will be back. I just hope its sooner rather than later.

They need to make a Star Trek a little further in the future, with a change for the borg.

the change could be either:

1) The end of the Borg
2) The growth and major threat of the borg (Possibly killing off a major species)
3) Or the borg begin to understand emotions and slowly adapt in a civilised way (Boring but funny to watch)
4) Species 8472 Destroy the borg and threaten the alpha quadrant.

Oh dear... OH...sigh... dear...
I like the second option, the idea of the Borg assimilating a major TNG era species and the subsequent knock-down drag-out battle in the heart of the Alpha Quadrant.

Which species would you favour? A non-Federation species such as the Romulans or the Cardassians? (I'd favor the former as the latter were used heavily in the DS9 Dominion War).

A Federation species would be more intersting as it would shake the heart of the establishment and lay the Federation open to tactical weaknesses much as they were when Picard was assimilated in Best of Both Worlds...the boldest move would be to choose the human race and set the series in among the chaos a hastily relocated United Federation of Planets on another world such as Vulcan or Andoria.

Originally posted by Carmine
Wasn't that one of Noonien Soong's ancestors defending the rights of genetic supermen like Khan the nasty man from TOS and the second film?

Nope, that was Noonien Soong himself, played by Brent Spiner, but your right about the genetic humans, he considered them his children and was trying to recover the other genetic humans/babies/hatchlings whatever they called them, at the end he says "I have decided not to continue my research on genetics, now, robotics, that might be a better idea" which leads onto the start of him creating androids......

Originally posted by Carmine
I like the second option, the idea of the Borg assimilating a major TNG era species and the subsequent knock-down drag-out battle in the heart of the Alpha Quadrant.

Which species would you favour? A non-Federation species such as the Romulans or the Cardassians? (I'd favor the former as the latter were used heavily in the DS9 Dominion War).

A Federation species would be more intersting as it would shake the heart of the establishment and lay the Federation open to tactical weaknesses much as they were when Picard was assimilated in Best of Both Worlds...the boldest move would be to choose the human race and set the series in among the chaos a hastily relocated United Federation of Planets on another world such as Vulcan or Andoria.

wasn't that pretty much the plot of one of the movies, or close enough to be not a 'new thing'.

How about the borg having to ally with the federation in order to fight species 87541 or whatever number they are. Plenty of scope for borg growth, friction with federation and mass space battles.

Originally posted by Cyclone
wasn't that pretty much the plot of one of the movies, or close enough to be not a 'new thing'.

How about the borg having to ally with the federation in order to fight species 87541 or whatever number they are. Plenty of scope for borg growth, friction with federation and mass space battles.
Which movie was that? First Contact briefly touched upon an alternate future in which the Earth had been assimilated in the past, but went no further with the idea as the main thrust of the plot was concerned with the efforts of the Enterprise E crew to thwart the Borgs efforts to bring about that event.

The plot you suggest is pretty much the series of events that led to 7-of-9 joining the Voyager crew...the Borg seem to work better as adversaires than as allies my mind.

Originally posted by Kry10
Nope, that was Noonien Soong himself, played by Brent Spiner, but your right about the genetic humans, he considered them his children and was trying to recover the other genetic humans/babies/hatchlings whatever they called them, at the end he says "I have decided not to continue my research on genetics, now, robotics, that might be a better idea" which leads onto the start of him creating androids......
That was the original?

He must have been ancient by the time he popped up in TNG!

The fightback starts here.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4272905.stm

:)

Originally posted by Carmine
That was the original?

He must have been ancient by the time he popped up in TNG!

He was, there was en episode called "Family" in which he remotely called Data and Lor to his home, he intended to give Data the one thing he always wanted, emotions, but, Lor stole the emotion chip and went mad and killed Noonien Soong (who was a VERY old man) all 3 of them played by Brent Spiner, it was a good episode.

Originally posted by Kry10
He was, there was en episode called "Family" in which he remotely called Data and Lor to his home, he intended to give Data the one thing he always wanted, emotions

the ability to say "they're", "we're", "arn't" and "can't" would be more usefull, it anoys the hell out of me that he can't do it, even Orac could speak better English, and he was just a fishtank full of fairylights !

Originally posted by nick2
the ability to say "they're", "we're", "arn't" and "can't" would be more usefull, it anoys the hell out of me that he can't do it, even Orac could speak better English, and he was just a fishtank full of fairylights !
There are many occasions when the scriptwriters seem to forget that Data cant use contractions, such as the end of the episode where a scientist has been experimenting with time. In the final scene three Datas from different timelines have to decide who needs to perform a vital task. At the last moment the correct Data comments:

"It's me."

http://www.saveenterprise.com/

Send emails to the address in the red box to keep it on tv, but this time on sci-fi!

Let it Live long and prosper...

I've watched Trek since I was knee high to a grasshopper,after Kirk I loved Next Gen, liked Deep Space and really got into Voyager but Enterprise never ever did it for me.
Glad to see the back of it tbh - sorry.
Time for something new.

I think Enterprise was doomed from the beginning. The technology could only go so far and the story lines were restricted by the original StarTrek series.

I used to watch StarTrek with my dad when Kirk was shooting to kill :), but the best series for me was TNG. Picard was and always will be the best captain in starfleet history.

I would love it if someone took a gamble and went back to the hostile shoot-em up style series of StarTrek like in the Dominion wars etc..

I think/hope/pray that StarTrek will come back in the near future. I also hope they don't make it any more PC than they have now!:rant:

I thought 'Enterprise' had it's moments and rather liked the way that all the technology used by Kirk onwards was still in it's infancy and not trusted.
If you look at the many books written by various authors which told of loads of adventures kirk and Spock and the rest of the gang had which were never used for the TV stories then I'd have to say that Enterprise wasn't in the least limited by the future events. They could of done a lot of things like explaining the 'geenetic' alterations with the Klingons. [Trekkies will know what i mean]
I'll be really sad if Star Trek fades away and think that some people should recieve a very hard kick up the bum for axing it.

The genetic alteration of Klingons is being tackled in a 2 parter currently showing in the states! This season, under the new leadership of Manny Coto, has been a huge improvement, but too late. Doing what the show should have done from day one it has shown why the Vulcans were so different, sowed the seeds for the Romulan war, showed the first elements of the UFP with the Andorians, Vulcans, Tellerites and Humans working together....and had Brent Spiner pop up as Soong's ancestor who was a genetic scientist who worked on the Eugenics (which ties into the Klingon arc of bumpy-non bumpy heads)!!!

At least the show is going out on a high!

I think the Enterprise series is quite good. The Picard lot took a couple of seasons to gain popularity, so I think they should let this one run a while longer to see if it gains popularity before cancelling it.:rant:

Originally posted by Kry10
Nope, that was Noonien Soong himself, played by Brent Spiner,

Actually, it was Arik Soong, played by Brent Spiner. Not Noonian.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/6485.html

And on a somewhat related note;

http://startrek.meetup.com/261/

As a trekkie I find the prospect of no more enterprise to be awful,this must not be alowed to happen.
All us trekkies ought to get togeather and plan what we can do next,so come on whos up for a meet.???

Whoops I ought to have checked the post properly my mistake.:P

Originally posted by capthunter
Actually, it was Arik Soong, played by Brent Spiner. Not Noonian.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/6485.html

And on a somewhat related note;

http://startrek.meetup.com/261/

Just checked that link, where the smeg did they dredge up their information, from the bowels of a flatulent tribble no doubt, it WAS Noonien Soong, NOT Arik, whoever the hell he is, sheesh.

Try watching the episode itself, you shall see for yourself that it is in fact Noonien Soong, the creator of Data, hence why they have used Brent Spiner to play the part.

More information regarding this thread, Enterprise is to be shown on Sky One from next Tuesday, that espisode is picking up from the end of the Xindii story, where they arrive in the past and we have a new story line to pick up on........then, from the 8th of March, they are showing series 4, so, you shall all be able to see the final series (IF this is the final series, we shall have to see what happens).

Originally posted by Kry10
Just checked that link, where the smeg did they dredge up their information, from the bowels of a flatulent tribble no doubt, it WAS Noonien Soong, NOT Arik, whoever the hell he is, sheesh.

Try watching the episode itself, you shall see for yourself that it is in fact Noonien Soong, the creator of Data, hence why they have used Brent Spiner to play the part.

Try checking the official site and watching the episode. It was Arik, not Noonian.

Here's the OFFICIAL link to season 4 synops. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episodes/index.html?season=4

In additional news, has anyone heard the current news that the Nielsen figures for the last year were all screwed up? Apparantly the ratings were miscalculated, and it is possible that shows such as Enterprise, and Dead Like Me shouldn't have been cancelled after all! I smell trouble ahead for the networks in the US.

Originally posted by Beakerzoid
Try checking the official site and watching the episode. It was Arik, not Noonian.

Here's the OFFICIAL link to season 4 synops. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episodes/index.html?season=4

In additional news, has anyone heard the current news that the Nielsen figures for the last year were all screwed up? Apparantly the ratings were miscalculated, and it is possible that shows such as Enterprise, and Dead Like Me shouldn't have been cancelled after all! I smell trouble ahead for the networks in the US.

Damn it, your right, lol, okay, okay, it was a mistake that any half witted novelty condom headed mechanoid can make.

Glad to hear that they have had a mistake in the US too, heh, I hope that they bring back Dead Like Me, that show rocked.

Originally posted by Kry10
Damn it, your right, lol, okay, okay, it was a mistake that any half witted novelty condom headed mechanoid can make.

Glad to hear that they have had a mistake in the US too, heh, I hope that they bring back Dead Like Me, that show rocked.

Don't worry about it. And...hell..Dead Like Me! Last I heard, Sci Fi channel were thinking about picking it up. MGM said they are still 100% behind the show, and want to get it onto TV one way or another. I have recently introduced the show to 5 people via the DVD box set of season 1.

Have you seen season 2 yet? It is amazing!

Yup, seen both seasons, I usually download my stuff via BT, so I am far ahead with ST Enterprise and have seen all the Dead Like Me stuff.

Originally posted by Kry10
Yup, seen both seasons, I usually download my stuff via BT, so I am far ahead with ST Enterprise and have seen all the Dead Like Me stuff.

Not that I agree with dubious downloading ;) but...same here! Liking how the Klingon 'bumpy heads' thing is playing out!

If anyone here doesn't have Sky One, they're repeating the most recent series of Enterprise on Channel 4 starting this Sunday according to the new TV guide mag I bought earlier.

yes C4 is running 2 back2back shows 2morrow!

Originally posted by Kry10
Just checked that link, where the smeg did they dredge up their information, from the bowels of a flatulent tribble no doubt, it WAS Noonien Soong, NOT Arik, whoever the hell he is, sheesh.

Try watching the episode itself, you shall see for yourself that it is in fact Noonien Soong, the creator of Data, hence why they have used Brent Spiner to play the part.

I did watch the episode. I also followed all the publicity in the run up to the episode that explained Spiner was playing an ancestor of Noonian Soong.

The link I gave you is to the official site, who get their information from the studio.

Damn it, your right, lol, okay, okay, it was a mistake that any half witted novelty condom headed mechanoid can make.

Errrr, I did apologise that I was incorrect about my statement, oh well, it's an old post now, no point dredging it up again.

I'm SURE I read somewhere in the last few days that a number of famous StarTrek fans have offered several million dollars between them to help pay for another series of Enterprise.

I'll try to remember where I read it .....

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

Originally posted by StarSparkle
I'm SURE I read somewhere in the last few days that a number of famous StarTrek fans have offered several million dollars between them to help pay for another series of Enterprise.

I'll try to remember where I read it .....

StarSparkle :thumbsup: Makes one wonder how much a series the scope and scale of Enterprise would actually cost and the legal ins and outs of accepting a donation to comission it...would the investers have an interest and legal rights over the finished product?

Try http://www.trekunited.com/

Apparently, one contributor has donated $3 million to save enterprise, but, they need loads more.

It's rubbish, why would anyone want to save it? They should make something post-Voyager.

Sidla,

Gotta disagree.

I've found Enterprise to be a reasonable series - not consistently good but Voyager had some stinkers in there as well.

I'm not sure where they'd go with a post Voyager universe. The Dominion War was settled in DS9, and the whole Maquis / Cardassian situation was also resolved there.

One possibility might be to look at some sort of 'internal threat' to the Federation - either decadent decay into Empire or maybe a return of those slug like creatures that infected a couple of high ranking officers in TNG.

Alternatively, go the whole hog and skip in to the future and start dealing with the advent of the temporal cold war that's getting some coverage in Enterprise.

The reason I liked DS9 was that it got away from the 'boldly going' out in to the universe and dealt a lot with character. Voyager occasionally had episodes like that but was in some ways quite restricted in options available to the authors. Enterprise has potential - it's had some good character driven episodes, the Xindi thread was well done and the I'd like to see it get the chance to deal with how Earth came to be leading the Federation; at the moment we still seem to be second string to Vulcan. And the Romulans. Be nice to see them appear!

Joe

Carmine,

The usual 'credit' for putting the money in is as Executive Producer... :)

Seriously, the characters belong to 'the creators' but I would imagine that the funding would effectively buy a license and a share in profits from the video / DVD sales of series 5 onwards, if they were to be produced.

Alternatively, the deal could be structured as a loan or a shareholding....there are lots of ways in which teh funding could be sorted but I would imagine that 'creative control' would stay with Paramount - or, perhaps, a spin off company?

Lots of ways to do it, if the will is there.

Joe

I'm not a huge fan of Enterprise, but it's really sad to think of no new StarTrek series being in production. :(

As the most recent series, it makes sense to film new episodes of Enterprise rather than the older ones. Even if it's for as basic a reason as all senior members of the cast still being available to take part.

I think Voyager had come to its natural end, anyway. Personally, I think it was rounded off pretty well and there was nowhere else for it to go.

On a slightly different note, earlier this evening I watched the second episode of DS9, and was reminded how excellent this series was. In my view, it was the most complex and 'grown-up' of the StarTrek series. Psychologically, it was by far the most interesting series, and was an interesting digression from the usual exploring of outer space to the exploring of 'inner space'. More dark and claustrophobic than the other series, but more spiritual.

StarSparkle (big fan of Enterprise's Trip though!:P)

Originally posted by Kry10
Errrr, I did apologise that I was incorrect about my statement, oh well, it's an old post now, no point dredging it up again.

Which I didn't spot at the time. Sorry. :) Hey I don't come here all that much. ;)

And on the cancellation front, it's now confirmed that the sets have been struck, and the stages are empty.

However, unlike previous shows, the sets have been put into storage, so there is some hope.

In light of the cancellation of Star Trek I'm trying to get together Star Trek fans from the Sheffield area. Please go here:

http://startrek.meetup.com/261/members/


register and let's see about keeping trek alive.

Join the list, join the adventure.


Adrian

ady@uss-sheffield.co.uk
http://www.uss-sheffield.co.uk

Deep Space 9 rocked! And I fancied both the Daxes, Jadzia and Ezri, especially Ezri as she had *ahem* nice big boobies :shocked:

Originally posted by Rich
Deep Space 9 rocked! And I fancied both the Daxes, Jadzia and Ezri, especially Ezri as she had *ahem* nice big boobies :shocked:

I had the pleasure of meeting Nicole DeBoer a couple of years back in Glasgow...


Ady

Originally posted by Rich
Deep Space 9 rocked! And I fancied both the Daxes, Jadzia and Ezri, especially Ezri as she had *ahem* nice big boobies :shocked:

I loved those Daxes as well. But having also met Ms DeBoer, I can assure you she doesn't have "big boobies." ;)

She's also tiny. But very, very cute.

Originally posted by capthunter

very, very cute.



You missed off a 'very'


:)


And indeed she's cute, not 'stacked' like Jordan.

Ady

Originally posted by steel_ady
In light of the cancellation of Star Trek I'm trying to get together Star Trek fans from the Sheffield area. Please go here:

http://startrek.meetup.com/261/members/


As someone who has been using Meet Up for a while now, I think it's a great idea. Sometimes takes a little work to get going, but once it does it's a great way to make new friends and chat about a common interest. :)

People are already signing up to meetup. Add your name, join the adventure :)

Ady

Well with Meetup about to star tcharginf for the privilege, one alternative is to visit here http://ussintrepid.net/companel/index.php?showforum=23

End of an era tonight - Enterprise airs the last two episodes back to back - Terra Prime and These are the voyages....


For any mourning the loss of Star Trek go to:


http://www.uss-sheffield.co.uk

and forum at:

http://www.ussintrepid.net/companel


Ady