Just a word of warning about the timing of the car park machines at the hospital.

It costs 1.50 for 4 hours up to 7pm ,which is very reasonable, but if you arrive at say 6.30 to visit someone and intend to stay until 8pm beware!!! buying at 1.50 ticket at that time (6.30) will only give you until 7pm, when the ticket machine switches itself to the night time tarriff.:confused:

I fell victim to this last night

And the night time tariff is?

Didn't the credit just carry forward?

Did you get clamped then?

Providing your fit enough to walk, you could just park on Herries road and have a short walk

I think it's pretty disgusting that you have to pay to park to go to hospital/visit a sick friend or relative in hospital anyway. We pay our taxes and national insurance don't we?

Dont bother getting a ticket after 5ish - I bet they dont pay wardens to check tickets outside office hours as it would cost too much in wages.

Originally posted by Mouseman
Dont bother getting a ticket after 5ish - I bet they dont pay wardens to check tickets outside office hours as it would cost too much in wages.

You would be surprised, they wardens are really hot at NGH. On a side note, parking should improve as they are building a Multi Storey at the front of the hospital.

Be very careful parking on Herries road as you are parking opposite a double white line .Every now and again the police come along and issue fixed penalty tickets.You have to be parked really bad at the northern to get clamped,generally they just put a warning ticket on your car.

The night time tarriff is 1.50 all night

my mother is a nurse in derby, if she works past her shift, she has to pay for her carparking.

How disgusting is that!!!!

Originally posted by feederfil
Be very careful parking on Herries road as you are parking opposite a double white line .Every now and again the police come along and issue fixed penalty tickets.just put a warning

I've had some close shaves because of cars parked on that bit of Herries Road.

Going down is one lane, coming up is two lanes. Several times I have had to cross the lines to pass one of these cars (after checking that the lane I am entering is clear) only for someone coming up to decide that now would be a good time to change down, pull out to overtake and speed up to 40+ head on to me.

Barnsley Road is good for parking....both sides if you are lucky

:thumbsup:

Sure there won't be a problem if you get the earlier ticket. £1.50 ain't too bad really is it? Cheaper than most council car parks...

Plans aren't confirmed for a multi-storey at the Northern just yet but it's being looked into.

Originally posted by feederfil
Be very careful parking on Herries road as you are parking opposite a double white line .Every now and again the police come along and issue fixed penalty tickets.You have to be parked really bad at the northern to get clamped,generally they just put a warning ticket on your car.

I was referring to further down than this myself. Past the main Herries road entrance and nearer the other entrance with the ramp.

Originally posted by green
my mother is a nurse in derby, if she works past her shift, she has to pay for her carparking.

How disgusting is that!!!!
Lots of people have to pay for parking if they want to take the car to work. Nurses are no different.

I feel those who work at the hospital ought to have some kind of discount parking,say half price.

Prove me wrong,when parking fees were first introduced at the NGH,I believe I read somewhere that the profits from the parking fees were going to pay for better facilities in the wards ie,televisions etc,I wonder if this idea materialised.Adding the sums up there must be at least 1000 cars parking at the NGH every day this amounts to a considerable sum of money .Where is this cash going.

Originally posted by royjames
I feel those who work at the hospital ought to have some kind of discount parking,say half price.
Perhaps they should have half price sandwiches too?

Staff parking is free at Northern General for those with permits (although there's only so many permits to go round) and the parking fees do go back into cash for patient services (+ paying for security etc for the car parks!).

Just feel I should defend the place sometimes!

My mum works at Scarborough hospital and she doesnt have to pay, all the staff have a parking permit. Thought this would be the same accross the NHS?

Originally posted by pdrnsf
My mum works at Scarborough hospital and she doesnt have to pay, all the staff have a parking permit. Thought this would be the same accross the NHS?

Yes, as stoofa says, all staff can have a permit whichallows them to park for free. However they must park in designated areas or else they would become liable for a ticket.

I work at northern and although getting a permit is relitavely easy finding somewhere to use it is increasingly difficult. They keep building things on the car parks or taking them over for building/demolition work. Past about 8.45 it is impossible to find a staff space. This means staff have to pay to park in a patients space. The other problem is that all the staff car parks are far away form the main buildings meaning night/evening staff regularly have to walk alone to their cars. I have heard that they only clamp staff cars as they can't clamp patients. I suspect that is jut a rumour though. However to look on the bright side Hallamshire staff find it very difficult to get permits and have to pay for them so i should probably consider myself lucky!

Originally posted by Sal22
Hallamshire staff find it very difficult to get permits and have to pay for them so i should probably consider myself lucky!

Hallamshire staff are known to park up at the Northern and then get the free shuttle bus across to the Hallamshire.

Originally posted by pdrnsf
My mum works at Scarborough hospital and she doesnt have to pay, all the staff have a parking permit. Thought this would be the same accross the NHS?

Nope Barnsley Hospital charge their staff for parking, 40 pence per day or a monthly fee stopped out of your wages. But its not straight forward in obtaining a permit, as they run a point scoring scheme to determine how eligible you are for a permit.
So if you use your car in connection with your job or live far away you have a good chance, if however you live locally and dont use your car for your job then your less likely to be granted a permit.

Originally posted by Tony
Perhaps they should have half price sandwiches too?

She's got a point though Tony, It's abit disgusting when people working at the Hospital have to pay to park there. Especially nurses, paramedics etc . . they are helping to save lives and yet may come out to a sticker or clamp on their car.

Not really IMO. 'Saving lives' is a bit rich. Most nurses clean bottoms and change beds between coffee breaks.

I don't see why they deserve 'free' parking any more than any other civil servant who works in town.

Nurses are hardly underpaid!


(Tony stands back and waits for flack.)

Originally posted by Tony
Not really IMO. 'Saving lives' is a bit rich. Most nurses clean bottoms and change beds between coffee breaks.

I don't see why they deserve 'free' parking any more than any other civil servant who works in town.

Nurses are hardly underpaid!


(Tony stands back and waits for flack.)

No flack from me; I agree!

Something thart annoys me is people that take jobs, and then moan about them. In all the places I've managed this has happened. I haven't been untruthful when interviewing or issuing contracts, but it happens anyway.

If you know that a place has a rule about only 30 mins for lunch / you must pay for parking / there is no creche / you must turn up (yes it happens!)/ you can't smoke at your desk / can't have your phone turned on - don't take the bl**dy job in the first place!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant:

K xx

I have been on the free shuttle from the Hallamshire to the Northern General.
It hasn't the capacity to carry all the staff who work at the Hallamshire and could park their cars free at the Northern General.
Car parking at hopsitals is the same the country over. If the hospital is either close to the center of a big city or is in a resedential area then it won't have sufficient parking for staff or visitors.
The only hopsitals I have called at were I could park easily are on the edge of town like Bassetlaw hospital at Worksop.
There has to be a trade-off between the hospital being central and convenient (and hemmed in by surrounding buildings thus no parking) or built with losts of space around it (and in the middle of nowhere).
When I was at Bassetlaw Hospital we had a new car park built and I was told it cost £1000 per parking space to build. This taking into account planning, contacting, drainage, lighting signs etc.
The NHS has limited funds; on what should this be spent, tarmac or theatres?

Originally posted by JBee
I think it's pretty disgusting that you have to pay to park to go to hospital/visit a sick friend or relative in hospital anyway. We pay our taxes and national insurance don't we?
Yes, for medical treatment, not so that the hospital has to buy land and maintain it for those people who choose to use their car to visit patients.


Tazz

Originally posted by Kristian
No flack from me; I agree!

Something thart annoys me is people that take jobs, and then moan about them.

If you know that a place has a rule about only 30 mins for lunch / you must pay for parking / there is no creche / you must turn up (yes it happens!)/ you can't smoke at your desk / can't have your phone turned on - don't take the bl**dy job in the first place!!!!! :rant: :rant: :rant:

K xx

Sorry but in most cases the people had already taken up their posts before payment for parking was introduced, also a good number of NHS workers use their own cars to carry out their job functions.

Originally posted by Lestat
She's got a point though Tony, It's abit disgusting when people working at the Hospital have to pay to park there. Especially nurses, paramedics etc . . they are helping to save lives and yet may come out to a sticker or clamp on their car.
Especially nurses, paramedics etc
This is typical of the attitude of certain NGH staff.Every one who works at the hospital is doing an important job,but the suppport staff without whom the hospital can not function never get any recognition.All Government ministers have the same attitude,10,000 more nurses wins votes but without the back up staff these nurses are for want of a better word impotent.

Originally posted by JBee
I think it's pretty disgusting that you have to pay to park to go to hospital/visit a sick friend or relative in hospital anyway. We pay our taxes and national insurance don't we?

and you'd be whinging if we had to cancel treatment to keep car parking free

NHS trusts can't use central govt money to provide car parking facilities and services - it has to be paid for from commercial revenue

Originally posted by matsalleh
Especially nurses, paramedics etc
This is typical of the attitude of certain NGH staff.Every one who works at the hospital is doing an important job,but the suppport staff without whom the hospital can not function never get any recognition.All Government ministers have the same attitude,10,000 more nurses wins votes but without the back up staff these nurses are for want of a better word impotent.

Hospital staff don't pay these rates for parking

there is staff parking, which if it was reserved for clinical and support staff and non staff cars parked there towed would be more than adequate

Originally posted by matsalleh
Especially nurses, paramedics etc
This is typical of the attitude of certain NGH staff.Every one who works at the hospital is doing an important job,but the suppport staff without whom the hospital can not function never get any recognition.All Government ministers have the same attitude,10,000 more nurses wins votes but without the back up staff these nurses are for want of a better word impotent.

i think the main issue is the treatment of adminstrative and management staff vs the treatment of clinical staff

in some places admin staff find it easier to get parking permits because of occaisonal work related vehiche usage scoring higher than early starts and late finished.

also the problems that clinicla staff with a late start have findign somehwere to park so they can get home safely at 2200hrs or later becasue of all the adminstrativ e staff and managers woho work 0900 -1700 filling the car parks

I am neither admin , managerial or clinical staff,but our department works 24hrs each and every day.

Originally posted by jan2002
Just a word of warning about the timing of the car park machines at the hospital.

It costs 1.50 for 4 hours up to 7pm ,which is very reasonable, but if you arrive at say 6.30 to visit someone and intend to stay until 8pm beware!!! buying at 1.50 ticket at that time (6.30) will only give you until 7pm, when the ticket machine switches itself to the night time tarriff.:confused:

I fell victim to this last night

Are you sure its not valid till 7AM the next morning ? When I have been its been around 6:30PM and the ticket says its valid till 07:00, not 19:00.

Not happy. Having to pay to park to see my dad who has just had a big operation, should be in 2 weeks. Goodness knowa how people afford it if relatives are in long term. I can sort of see the point that the NHS is there to resource and provide healthcare rather than convenient car parking spaces. I can also see the point of paying to park at the hallamshire/jessops as to deter commuters. But why else would anyone want to park their car at the northern? Blatant profiteering if you ask me.:rant:

jst for the record, every1 thinks that hospital staff get parking for free. this is not the case at all. if we are full time we have to pay a monthly fee of 150pounds every month of the year and so on and if we are part time we have to pay 70pounds for every month of the year and so on. if you think 1pound for 1 hour is bad, wot about the ataff that work their that cnt park without buying a mounthly pass for the car every month. your nt that hard dun too. ye, its crap that people have to pay full stop, in a hospital to pak their car but its even more so rediculous for nursing staff to have to pay to park a car every day, night or 14hrs of the day.............!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and nurses are so very much underpaid which is y we do extra shift work to be able to earn a living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why drag up a thread that's 2 1/2 years old???

that was the nail in the coffin for me at the northern general hospital i worked there for ten years then suddenly we got a penalty for being health service worker, and as for the clampits i mean clampers my wife still works there and the other day was told when she was due to come home when a dis abled car was blocking them in this means it was illegally parked, the clampit had no power to clamp it so they would have to wait till the owner moved it, i know the union did zilch about it, the rally what was organised was only to make the richmond councilor and he is also their head union rep look good, the real action would have been bring all the lower paid out on strike, but no we roll over and have belly rubbed like little puppies, put scargill that wouldn't have happened as easy,

She's got a point though Tony, It's abit disgusting when people working at the Hospital have to pay to park there. Especially nurses, paramedics etc . . they are helping to save lives and yet may come out to a sticker or clamp on their car.

Just splitting hairs, but paramedics don't park at the hospital, nor are emergency ambulances based there. A&E ambulances operate from ambulance stations not hospitals, and that's where staff park (for free :hihi:)

Why drag up a thread that's 2 1/2 years old???

Search facility?

You lot say it often enough :rolleyes:

I work at northern and although getting a permit is relitavely easy finding somewhere to use it is increasingly difficult. They keep building things on the car parks or taking them over for building/demolition work. Past about 8.45 it is impossible to find a staff space. This means staff have to pay to park in a patients space. The other problem is that all the staff car parks are far away form the main buildings meaning night/evening staff regularly have to walk alone to their cars. I have heard that they only clamp staff cars as they can't clamp patients. I suspect that is jut a rumour though. However to look on the bright side Hallamshire staff find it very difficult to get permits and have to pay for them so i should probably consider myself lucky!


The thing that makes me mad at the northern Generel is the amount of disabled parking spaces or lack of them.

I have to visit the hospital every week and the nearest place for me to park is at the chesterman enterance but there is so few disabled parking spaces that I can never get parked but would you belive it there are loads of staff parking right outside the clock tower very close to the building and always plenty of spare places but I am not aloud to park in them with my blue badge, so I have to park in the car parks for visitors where it takes me 30 mins to walk to where I am going instead of 5 min

Just to clarify - parking for staff at the NGH is NOT free - I pay £160 per year for my permit but this does not guarantee me a parking space. I then have to pay for the 8 hours that I am forced to park there like everyone else.

Not really IMO. 'Saving lives' is a bit rich. Most nurses clean bottoms and change beds between coffee breaks.

I don't see why they deserve 'free' parking any more than any other civil servant who works in town.

Nurses are hardly underpaid!


(Tony stands back and waits for flack.)

I very much hope that this comment was a wind- up. If not, you are either very bitter or extremely ignorant of the role of a qualified nurse in 2008.

I very much hope that this comment was a wind- up. If not, you are either very bitter or extremely ignorant of the role of a qualified nurse in 2008.

The problem is most people are widely ignorant of the role of the Registered Nurse and ignorant of the fact that Nurses also end up with a big share of the accountability for the omissions of Trainee Doctors.

in answer to gideons post

http://www.pass-scheme.org.uk/

http://www.validateuk.co.uk/

http://www.citizencard.com/

The problem is most people are widely ignorant of the role of the Registered Nurse and ignorant of the fact that Nurses also end up with a big share of the accountability for the omissions of Trainee Doctors.

Exactly - and junior doctors rely very heavily on trained nurses for guidance and advice - especially in their first job

Not really IMO. 'Saving lives' is a bit rich. Most nurses clean bottoms and change beds between coffee breaks.

I don't see why they deserve 'free' parking any more than any other civil servant who works in town.

Nurses are hardly underpaid!


(Tony stands back and waits for flack.)

in my opinion he doesn't know the nurses job description and how much they earn also their importance, as nurses save lives, and civil servants sit on their fat backside supping coffee all day working out how to make peoples lives as miserable as can be for a higher paid wage than a nurse, not to mention the ancillary and porters who have to pay who are on pittance of a wage.

Not really IMO. 'Saving lives' is a bit rich. Most nurses clean bottoms and change beds between coffee breaks.

I don't see why they deserve 'free' parking any more than any other civil servant who works in town.

Nurses are hardly underpaid!


(Tony stands back and waits for flack.)i think the people who are volunteers in organisations like that ought to pay more than a regular employee, as their is a job there which should be a paid post and these do gooders are preventing someone feeding a family.

i throw the bait in and watch the fish suface,

I very much hope that this comment was a wind- up. If not, you are either very bitter or extremely ignorant of the role of a qualified nurse in 2008.

That post was in 2005. If you read his last sentence it was pretty obvious he was jesting (at least in part).

We have registered nurses in our family, and although they would like more money, they're not exactly on starvation wages. Some nurses may be working in wards where they are involved in life saving procedures, but some just weigh patients and take blood etc. yet are on the same grade. I think the ones who are doing the lifesaving deserve far more. The quality of nurses also varies enormously, my OH was in NGH for a month last year, and experienced the whole spectrum of care from professional, caring nursing downwards. :(

When I was visiting twice a day it cost me a lot to park (if I could even get a space) so when I could I went on the bus. At the weekends, I had no problem finding a space. As nursing staff work 7 days, who were the missing parkers?

The parking situation at any hospital in Sheffield isn't good for staff or visitors or outpatients.

The quality of those in ANY profession varies enormously. You will always find those who will go the extra mile and then there are those who are quite clearly only there for the wage packet at the end of the month. I don't think that nurses are any different to any other profession. I would hazard a guess that you will have seen this in your area of work. However, this post is about car parking - so lets get back on subject:roll:
The 'absent parkers' at weekends in the pay and display car parks are, quite obviously patients who are attending out patients clinics and departments for appointments and treatments - these areas usually open Monday to Friday.

The quality of those in ANY profession varies enormously. You will always find those who will go the extra mile and then there are those who are quite clearly only there for the wage packet at the end of the month. I don't think that nurses are any different to any other profession. I would hazard a guess that you will have seen this in your area of work. However, this post is about car parking - so lets get back on subject:roll:
The 'absent parkers' at weekends in the pay and display car parks are, quite obviously patients who are attending out patients clinics and departments for appointments and treatments - these areas usually open Monday to Friday.

OK point taken. And yes, I have seen variations in staff in all sorts of jobs, but it doesn't make it right, especially when someone's health or care is at stake.

I did think that some of the extra spaces at the weekend were those used by admin staff during the week.

If anyone's in the Weston Park or Jessop's, tell them to plug their Patientline units in! We at HBS need their requests! :D

Sorry to hijack teh thread but I saw an opportunity to advertise my work and took it! :D

Only ever known staff get those warning tickets....

Think they do only have 2 or 3 clamps tho!

OK point taken. And yes, I have seen variations in staff in all sorts of jobs, but it doesn't make it right, especially when someone's health or care is at stake.

I did think that some of the extra spaces at the weekend were those used by admin staff during the week.

I would doubt there are many staff who are willing, or able, to pay and display every day of their working lives. Most staff who are unable to use public transport for any reason will be allowed a parking permit for the staff car parks - but they have to pay for this, albeit a lesser price than in the pay and display. Others are probably parking on the roads around the hospital.
If you were visiting twice daily for a long period of time you would be allowed to have a permit at a reduced rate - not something that is much publicised by the management (surprise, surprise !) but is worth knowing about.

I hope I won't be visiting again for a long time if ever, but if I am I'll try and remember that bit of inside info, thanks!

I am neither admin , managerial or clinical staff,but our department works 24hrs each and every day.

My department is also 24hrs! I have a parking permit but trying to find a space in the afternoons is close to impossible!

I have heard a nasty rumour that parking for staff and visitors at the Northern General Hospital is set to rise again in the near future.
All staff are having to reapply for their parking permits and the goalposts have changed - many staff who are currently allowed to pay for permits will not be able to do so under the new system.
I imagine that the said increase will also take effect at the Royal Hallamshire and Weston Park hospitals also.

Don't know what all the fuss is about. I worked for a very large private company and had to pay £4.50 a day to park and accepted this as part of working life.
I worked shifts finishing at all sorts of hours so public transport wasn't an option.

Why should staff get free parking? That also includes council staff.

I re-applied yesterday for my permit. Its not so much the money they take out my wages every month thats annoying, but fighting for a space at 8:50 most mornings. They have given out fr too many permits so making everyone re-apply and theres going to be a lot of dissapointed people. Its a shame the multi-story got rejected

it will be even more of a hassle for the staff if the residential areas surrounding the hospitals get approval for the permit parking scheme that they are after, as there will be nowhere for the extra staff or visitors to park in the area,like at the hallamshire.

all nurses staff at hospitals should refuse to pay if not resolved threaten to strike then see what happens

Don't know what all the fuss is about. I worked for a very large private company and had to pay £4.50 a day to park and accepted this as part of working life.
I worked shifts finishing at all sorts of hours so public transport wasn't an option.

Why should staff get free parking? That also includes council staff.

Hospital staff DON'T get free parking - money is taken out of their wages every month for a permit - but not all staff will be allowed a permit - this will depend upon their circumstances.