View Full Version : FA Cup draw on a Monday, why?
pippadoll 06-01-2008, 19:02 Does anyone know why the FA persist with the draw on a Monday. Initilally the move was marketed as following traditions. Traditions, what traditions, oh like all FA cup cames on a Saturday.
I have never been able to see the draw and really miss having it on a Sunday afternoon. If it has to be Monday, why not Monday evening?
CHAIRBOY 06-01-2008, 19:18 I preferred it (as I do, in the past) when it was on BBC radio at 12.30pm. on the Monday. The hushed tones of Bryon Butler taking us into the ante-chamber for the draw. I used to have my transistor glued to my ear as the suspense grew.
On TV, it's never been the same with all the extra chat from either David Davies (very wooden) or smiling Brooking. All we need is a number and a corresponding club, not Bryan Robson's Sheffield United who knocked out Bolton or * times cup-winners Aston Villa.
There was an occasion when it was drawn on a Sunday afternoon before some teams had even played, which was bad manners.
Save a bit of suspense for tomorrow if suspense be the word! I've grown into taking it as it arrives -as it's fairly immaterial now judging by weakened sides that's been fielded.
Robbie Loving 06-01-2008, 19:19 Not to sound detrimental or anything like that, but I can't see many people caring to be quite honest.
I'll just see who is playing who when it appears on the BBC website or whichever one I am looking at at work.
I preferred it (as I do, in the past) when it was on BBC radio at 12.30pm. on the Monday. The hushed tones of Bryon Butler taking us into the ante-chamber for the draw. I used to have my transistor glued to my ear as the suspense grew.
On TV, it's never been the same with all the extra chat from either David Davies (very wooden) or smiling Brooking. All we need is a number and a corresponding club, not Bryan Robson's Sheffield United who knocked out Bolton or * times cup-winners Aston Villa.
There was an occasion when it was drawn on a Sunday afternoon before some teams had even played, which was bad manners.
Save a bit of suspense for tomorrow if suspense be the word! I've grown into taking it as it arrives -as it's fairly immaterial now judging by weakened sides that's been fielded.
It's much better on the radio,especially if your team is still involved the tension really gets to you.
pippadoll 06-01-2008, 19:50 Can't even get to a radio. Me and my chums really love cup draws, we watch nearly all of them, except for the FA Cup draw. I thought it was the norm to be excited about them. Maybe we are just a bit weird.
CHAIRBOY 06-01-2008, 20:18 Can't even get to a radio. Me and my chums really love cup draws, we watch nearly all of them, except for the FA Cup draw. I thought it was the norm to be excited about them. Maybe we are just a bit weird.
Tune in here, SF, someone will post it as soon as it is finished!
briggy1967 06-01-2008, 21:39 Can't even get to a radio. Me and my chums really love cup draws, we watch nearly all of them, except for the FA Cup draw. I thought it was the norm to be excited about them. Maybe we are just a bit weird.
Yes definetly weird lol
And F.A Cup aint nothing to get excited about tbh because over the last 16 years i think only 3 teams outside the top 4 have won it (might be wrong) so it doesnt really matter who you draw.
Nowadays the F.A Cup is all about money for the smaller clubs and teams outside the premiership,its lost all its romance except for when a non league side do well.
For most Premiership managers the F.A cup is a distraction they can do without as the main objective is either the champions league,Uefa Cup or survival,the only Prem fans who are desperate to win it are Newcastle Fans cos they have been starved and are desperate for a trophy
scottishdude 06-01-2008, 21:45 Last night on Match of the day they commented on the "Giant Killings" as dissapointing and taking away from the FA Cup because the "bigger" teams weren't playing their full squads and it was making a mockery of the whole competition.
I just watched the 2 live games on BBC and have to admit they were great to watch. Burnley put on a great display against Arsenal and there was a lot of skill out there on the field, Stoke v Newcastle was as equally entertaining even though it ended in a goalless draw.The fans of both non Prem sides were amazing and really got behind their sides. So I say Pooh to the comments on Match of the Day and Pooh to forumers who are not bothered by the FA Cup because if you are true fans of football then you will be as excited about these games as I am.
briggy1967 06-01-2008, 21:57 Last night on Match of the day they commented on the "Giant Killings" as dissapointing and taking away from the FA Cup because the "bigger" teams weren't playing their full squads and it was making a mockery of the whole competition.
I just watched the 2 live games on BBC and have to admit they were great to watch. Burnley put on a great display against Arsenal and there was a lot of skill out there on the field, Stoke v Newcastle was as equally entertaining even though it ended in a goalless draw.The fans of both non Prem sides were amazing and really got behind their sides. So I say Pooh to the comments on Match of the Day and Pooh to forumers who are not bothered by the FA Cup because if you are true fans of football then you will be as excited about these games as I am.
Aint knocking the F.A cup mate,am just saying that its lost its appeal,when i was a nipper the Top teams always fielded their strongest side because they were desperate to get to Wembley,now its an excuse to throw in a few reserves and youngsters.
Its the Top teams that have made the F.A Cup lose its magic,YES it means a hell of a lot to the players but for the owners/chairmen of lower league clubs its all about money
BasilRathbon 07-01-2008, 10:24 Yes definetly weird lol
And F.A Cup aint nothing to get excited about tbh because over the last 16 years i think only 3 teams outside the top 4 have won it (might be wrong) so it doesnt really matter who you draw.
Nowadays the F.A Cup is all about money for the smaller clubs and teams outside the premiership,its lost all its romance except for when a non league side do well.
For most Premiership managers the F.A cup is a distraction they can do without as the main objective is either the champions league,Uefa Cup or survival,the only Prem fans who are desperate to win it are Newcastle Fans cos they have been starved and are desperate for a trophy
As many forummers know, I'm a Hereford United fan; and the one thing I can guarantee when I talk to a stranger about who I support is that they'll mention our famous FA Cup win over Newcastle in 1972. Similarly, I suspect fans of Chesterfield will remember their Cup run to the semi-final in 1997 for far longer than any "survival" season in the league. When you look back on your fondest memories of following your team, it's not the seasons of consolidation and survival you remember, it's those great cup ties.
Furthermore, does it really matter that the "big 4" have monopolised winning it; even for a bottom-half premiership side, a cup run to the quarter finals or semi finals brings in considerable extra revenue, not to mention the memories it'll leave behind.
Finally the great joy of the FA Cup is its unpredictability. Even an armchair fan can probably predict the premiership and champions' league results with 90% accuracy; while the eventual winners of the FA Cup may be predictable, few can predict how they'll get there.
CHAIRBOY 07-01-2008, 12:43 http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7173779.stm
All part of the tradition of the rich tradition of the cup, to allow squads to assemble round a radio on a training ground to hear their reward for progressing.
Not to troop off the pitch at quarter to five on a Sunday afternoon after beating a higher division team, to hear you'd drawn Millwall away in the next!
For once the armchair fan, is not being pandered to.
rajivsingh 07-01-2008, 13:24 Surely we cant have it both ways. Either the top clubs field weakened sides and devalue the competition OR they are far too strong in any case as the cup hasnt been won by an outside top 4 club in years.
I think the weakened teams argument would mean that other teams have more chance.
I ve never felt that the cup was devalued much by top teams although I think it is a sad day when you have teams like sheffield utd or was it wigan who played weak teams because for them it was more important to be fresh for relegation matches. Now that is more of a slap to the cup than UTD, Arse or Liverpool resting a few top players but still bringing on proven international players in theri place.
briggy1967 07-01-2008, 15:27 As many forummers know, I'm a Hereford United fan; and the one thing I can guarantee when I talk to a stranger about who I support is that they'll mention our famous FA Cup win over Newcastle in 1972. Similarly, I suspect fans of Chesterfield will remember their Cup run to the semi-final in 1997 for far longer than any "survival" season in the league. When you look back on your fondest memories of following your team, it's not the seasons of consolidation and survival you remember, it's those great cup ties.
Furthermore, does it really matter that the "big 4" have monopolised winning it; even for a bottom-half premiership side, a cup run to the quarter finals or semi finals brings in considerable extra revenue, not to mention the memories it'll leave behind.
Finally the great joy of the FA Cup is its unpredictability. Even an armchair fan can probably predict the premiership and champions' league results with 90% accuracy; while the eventual winners of the FA Cup may be predictable, few can predict how they'll get there.
You have just confirmed my point mate " a cup run brings in considerable extra revenue"
Its all about money nowadays
pippadoll 07-01-2008, 20:53 Cheers Chairboy.
Bleeding hell. If Newcastle can manage to beat Stoke (your having a laugh), we have Arsenal away. Yes, right, I can really see us doing that one.
Interesting Luton tie. It could get them through another two rounds.
Still wish i'd been able to watch it.
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