lol..lovin the title,but i wish i could last night a blagged my father to lend me £650 for a bike he agreed on one condition i dont ride it until i get my liscence but what do i do when he,s asleep?
took the bike out of the garage and had ago everything was goin fine until i turn a sharp corner and the steering wouldent turn anymore and ended up in a wall i bent the key and the speed and the rev thing was completely smashed it up.but luckley it was only the outer plastic that was smashed up.anyone got any ideas were i could get a new one from?the bikes a KAWI 1998 model er500 a2..
anyone a good with bikes wanna help a stupid lad out..lol :hihi:

omg you fool

your lucky to be alive :( rnt ya ?

not gonna tell ya off they will be loads wat doo :)

ya nutter.

lol you numpty :roll:

have you tried contacting manhattans on london/Chesterfield road on 01142 582 161

hope you get it sorted and dont ride the bloody thing until you get your liscence, its things like that that gives bikers a bad name.

lol..lovin the title,but i wish i could last night a blagged my father to lend me £650 for a bike he agreed on one condition i dont ride it until i get my liscence but what do i do when he,s asleep?
took the bike out of the garage and had ago everything was goin fine until i turn a sharp corner and the steering wouldent turn anymore and ended up in a wall i bent the key and the speed and the rev thing was completely smashed it up.but luckley it was only the outer plastic that was smashed up.anyone got any ideas were i could get a new one from?the bikes a KAWI 1998 model er500 a2..
anyone a good with bikes wanna help a stupid lad out..lol :hihi:


Corker, are you saying you took the bike out on public roads with no licence, insurance and by the sounds of it no clue how to handle the bike.?

If so you are not only stupid but the very reason bikers have a bad name, you should be ashamed.

Don't let Bikesafe know, if that's where your taking your DAS, you'll be a laughing stock.

sid smiths on greenland road or geoff halls on langsette road ... silly boy! :rolleyes:

lol..lovin the title,but i wish i could last night a blagged my father to lend me £650 for a bike he agreed on one condition i dont ride it until i get my liscence but what do i do when he,s asleep?
took the bike out of the garage and had ago everything was goin fine until i turn a sharp corner and the steering wouldent turn anymore and ended up in a wall i bent the key and the speed and the rev thing was completely smashed it up.but luckley it was only the outer plastic that was smashed up.anyone got any ideas were i could get a new one from?the bikes a KAWI 1998 model er500 a2..
anyone a good with bikes wanna help a stupid lad out..lol :hihi:

The reason the steering wouldn't turn any more is because you are supposed to lean....and if you don't know or can't handle that basic premise then you have no business being out on a bike.....a 500cc is powerful.....get your full training first and do as your Dad says and get your licence. :loopy: *wonders why the 125cc learner limit was ever abolished*

Be sensible and aware.....you Dad does not want to stand at your grave and weep :(

How exactly did you hit this wall....you could have damage to the front end you cannot see immediately.....get the fork alignment checked out :)

*wonders why the 125cc learner limit was ever abolished*

At age 17 or over, you will have two types of full motorcycle licence to aim for - the A1 light motorcycle licence or the standard category A motorcycle licence.

To gain a full A1 light motorcycle licence you must pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a vehicle over 75cc but not more than 120cc. A full A1 licence permits you to ride any motorcycle up to 125cc and a power output of up to 11kW (14.6 bhp) without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways.

To gain a full standard category A licence you must pass a theory test followed by a practical test on a motorcycle of over 120cc but not larger than 125cc and capable of at least 100kph. In practice the normal test vehicle will be a 125cc machine. A full standard category A licence permits you ride any motorcycle with a power output of up to 25kW (33bhp) and a power-to-weight ratio not exceeding 0.16kW/kg without `L' plates, carry pillion passengers and use motorways. You are restricted to a motorcycle up to 25kW for two years (not counting any periods of disqualification). After two years you may ride any size motorcycle.

None of which means anything much to me, but it seems there are still limits of some kind, while learning and for two years afterwards.

soz it took ages to reply ive been trying to sort it out. i wouldent have been able to do myself some real harm as i was fully kitted out with leathers and a alphine jacket and the road wasent long enough i was a backstreet behind my house.no it was a public road i know im stupid enough to drive without liscece but would never go on a public road even if it would have been better for me ..its only the outer plastic on the speedo thats damaged.a dint in the metal that protects the side of the lights and a cable what im not sure off but i think its from the speedo..ive got a pic of my bike when it is normal ive just marked the points of wich its damaged now
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z101/00brad88/mybikecrash.jpg

i came at the wall side on as i nearly turned all the way

soz it took ages to reply ive been trying to sort it out. i wouldent have been able to do myself some real harm as i was fully kitted out with leathers and a alphine jacket and the road wasent long enough i was a backstreet behind my house.no it was a public road i know im stupid enough to drive without liscece but would never go on a public road even if it would have been better for me ..its only the outer plastic on the speedo thats damaged.a dint in the metal that protects the side of the lights and a cable what im not sure off but i think its from the speedo..ive got a pic of my bike when it is normal ive just marked the points of wich its damaged now
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z101/00brad88/mybikecrash.jpg

Is this the moment to tell you that I knew someone, a very gorgeous sweet man, who was an experienced and careful rider, also kitted out with all of the requisite protective gear, who was killed in a single vehicle crash in October 2006.

He was riding a 600cc bike in good daylight on a dry road and was riding within the speed limit for the road.

The protective gear make **** all difference if you break your neck as he did.

RIP Trev, you are forever in my thoughts.

Corker, you're a dingbat!

Its a beautiful machine and I can understand how hard it must be to resist taking it out, Im sure that Id be biting my nails in frustration if I were in your position. It WAS a daft thing to do, but its easy to sit here and say its daft, Im sure that many people would have done the same thing in your position.

mate of mine failed to make a bend on a GPZ 1100 (I think it was an 1100) she'd been riding for ever and was what I would call a good rider wore all the right gear, you'll notice the past tense I'm using here, she had around 100 bikes accompanying the hearse and I still miss her now, she never laughed at my scooter once, RIP geep (tracy)

do yourself a favour, don't try and hide the damage, fess up to your dad and take your lumps, get some lessons under your belt, get your license and enjoy the ride then maybe you'll be around in a couple of years and you can buy me a pint.

there's enough riders in the cemetaries already

Actually, your Dad's a bit of a dingbat for lending you the money - he must know what you're like! In fact, he was nearly eligible for a Darwin Award there!:hihi:

http://www.darwinawards.com/

i have fessed up.it says its a lesson i had to pay..
what do you call the to plastics things i marked off..because im gonna look on ebay for replacements

fairings i think???

you told your dad, good lad, honesty pays in the long run

well you reckon it's the rim of the light, the speedo housing and probably the speedo cable thats damaged ? from the picture I'd reckon thats a fair guess, however you need to check the fork alignment, the fork bearings, brakes, the shocks and the wheel bearings you may also need the wheels rebalancing if any of the balance weights got lost

the most urgent replacement would be the speedo cable as you won't know how fast you are going if it goes and it may not go immediately, it's a bit like a pushbike brake cable only the core cable spins inside the sheath as the front wheel turns, so if the core cable is frayed and catches the sheath it will gradually wind itself tighter until it jams, then you may have to replace the gearing that connect it to the front wheel too which is a lot more expensive than a cable

probably an idea to disconnect the cable from the wheel if you have to move the bike anywhere, to prevent this from happening

please note I said move, as in push, not move, as in ride

the others look to be cosmetic and can wait a while, look for "speedometer" or "speedometer housing" and "headlamp" and "headlamp assembly" also check the breakers yards for bits from bikes who's riders weren't as lucky as you

I'd personally recommend taking it to Just Bike Clinic point out the damage see if there's anything they think needs looking at and ask for a quote it shouldn't cost much but it's always worth having a professional have a look, after all you are trusting your life to this machine and it doesn't take much to go wrong for it to dump you on the tarmac, not funny if the guy behind you isn't as awake as he thinks he is, he could easily run you over or worse run the bike over

having said all that it sounds a fairly low speed impact, so try and make it the last one eh ;)

Have showed the picture to my friend who used to mend my bike.....the bottom arrow is pointing at what looks like part of the braking system.....does the bike have anti-dive.....because he thinks you are pointing at that not the speedo which is the cable coming out of the bottom of the fork.....

As I said and has been backed up by esme...get the fork alignment checked out. :D

As someone who has ridden bikes for over 20 years (and lost body parts in the process) I have only one thing to say....

TW@T

Get some lessons, pass your CBT and do it right.

By the end of your 1st post, I knew what you had done wrong.

I promise, if you dont follow the advice on this thread, you will end up just another statistic.


And please note :
I dont care if I upset you with this post - its people like you that give bikers a bad reputation, you need to learn how to handle a bike (and beleive me, thats just the start of it)

no harsh words than..lol

Forgive me for saying this CorkerSWFC, but if you don't take the advice from the seasoned bikers on here then you're even more daft than your OP suggests.

Bikers who have are still riding in their 30s and 40s have usually got a wealth of experience and have got there with a number of bumps, scrapes and broken bits (of bike and person). Every mistake brings learning, if you are prepared to learn from it.

How about learning from their mistakes instead of waiting to make your own cock-ups and potentially killing yourself in the process?

My neighbour has three big bikes and hes been riding for decades. I was talking to him the other day and he was sorrowfully cleaning his machines because he`s selling them all.
Hes selling them because he said he had one brush too many with the grim reaper a few days ago, he was almost crushed between a 4X4 and an articulated lorry. It wasnt his fault and he was still shaken up by the experience and went on to tell me that over the past year or so, hes had one near miss after another.

This man has ridden almost every day for almost 30 years and his bikes are huge things with engines that look like something out of a science fiction movie, hes part of several biking groups and he tells me that quite a few of his friends are also considering selling up.

This is in a relatively rural area and its pretty dangerous, so the city is far more dodgy for riders.

The point Im clumsily trying to make is, if hes scared to go out now then what chance does a novice have? Even if youre an expert rider its STILL dangerous out there.

Bikes scare me senseless.
A friend of ours came off his bike a few years ago, he had awful injuries and was paralised down one side. After quite some time in hospital he regained movement(except for his left arm).
He suffered so much pain and problems with the arm he asked surgeons to remove it.
I have 3 boys and know the day may come when one asks for a motorbike(as boys do:roll:)I am pretty prepared for this with my response being, when you have passed all tests, have the right gear and can afford to buy the bike yourself.
The thought of them having a bike scares me to death, probably the same as your dad, which is why he insisted you have lessons first.
Yeah, you made a mistake that could`ve ended worse than it did, but it didn`t. You`re ok and you didn`t hurt anyone.
The main thing is yopu arn`t going to do it again!
Get some lessons, make your dad proud when you pass your test and ride carefully mate.

My neighbour has three big bikes and hes been riding for decades. I was talking to him the other day and he was sorrowfully cleaning his machines because he`s selling them all.
Hes selling them because he said he had one brush too many with the grim reaper a few days ago, he was almost crushed between a 4X4 and an articulated lorry. It wasnt his fault and he was still shaken up by the experience and went on to tell me that over the past year or so, hes had one near miss after another.

This man has ridden almost every day for almost 30 years and his bikes are huge things with engines that look like something out of a science fiction movie, hes part of several biking groups and he tells me that quite a few of his friends are also considering selling up.

This is in a relatively rural area and its pretty dangerous, so the city is far more dodgy for riders.

The point Im clumsily trying to make is, if hes scared to go out now then what chance does a novice have? Even if youre an expert rider its STILL dangerous out there.

Sorry to hear he is leaving the biking behind.

Around 7000 bikers per year are either killed or seriously injured and this has been pretty constant for the last 15 years. There are now more riders on the road due to the upsurge in numbers so the toll is strictly speaking falling but still dire compared to other road users.

Also one of the main causes of accidents are SVA's or Single Vehicle Accidents involving 30-45 year old males riding in good weather on 60mph roads on weekends between March and September, SVA's involve no other vehicles.

An police accident investigator in Sussex speaking about a two year survey stated that rider error was responsible for 80% of all motorcyclist road deaths.

So you see Corker what you are undertaking is literally a life and death issue, act like a prat and don't get trained properly and don't continue learning and I'm afraid flowers on a lampost may be the outcome.

My neighbour told me something along the same lines. Maybe its his age or maybe his missus is nagging him, or maybe he lost his confidence, but he told me that from now on, he wants four wheels under him instead of two.