Anybody heard the rumours? I wonder if its for sale as a going concern or for development?

Somebody did tell me that the owners of Thornbury Hospital are thinking about buying it and useing it for all their NHS patients & keep Thornbury 100% private.

Somebody did tell me that the owners of Thornbury Hospital are thinking about buying it and useing it for all their NHS patients & keep Thornbury 100% private.

How many Thornbury patients are NHS now?

Somebody did tell me that the owners of Thornbury Hospital are thinking about buying it and useing it for all their NHS patients & keep Thornbury 100% private.

There are two other bidders for Claremont and there are rumours that it has to be kept as a hospital.

Oh what rubbish!!
Chinese whispers or what.....

Claremont is for sale. Bids are due in in the middle of January. The owners of Claremont (HMT in London) have said they WILL NOT sell to any large company so Thornbury is a non starter! There have been four or five interested parties who have visited the hospital, at the moment no one knows what will happen. HMT have said, however, that if they are not happy with any of the bidders THEY WILL NOT SELL.

Claremont has a covenant on it which says it must be used as a hospital. It is a listed building and is being sold as a going concern. All the staff have been told that their terms and conditions are therefore protected under TUPE law.

PLEASE stop with these crappy rumours and lets wait and see what happens.

Hattie

Oh what rubbish!!
Chinese whispers or what.....

Claremont is for sale. Bids are due in in the middle of January. The owners of Claremont (HMT in London) have said they WILL NOT sell to any large company so Thornbury is a non starter! There have been four or five interested parties who have visited the hospital, at the moment no one knows what will happen. HMT have said, however, that if they are not happy with any of the bidders THEY WILL NOT SELL.

Claremont has a covenant on it which says it must be used as a hospital. It is a listed building and is being sold as a going concern. All the staff have been told that their terms and conditions are therefore protected under TUPE law.

PLEASE stop with these crappy rumours and lets wait and see what happens.

Hattie

If the staff terms and conditions are protected under TUPE law it's going to be one heck of a nightmare for any company taking that lot over.

Isn't Claremont run by nuns? I always remember seeing them wandering about when I was growing up around there... There was one who'd regularly talk to me when I was waiting for the bus on my way to wednesday games, she always told me she was an owl!

Or did they cash in ages ago and go and live in the sunshine?

I should have been going in to the Claremont on 17 Jan....was given a date and time....was told they had gone through my notes and all was ok....

On Christmas Eve I got letter from them saying they do not take people with a BMI over 35 (I interpret this as they do not "DO" fat people) and that they had withdrawn their offer. I was furious because someone must have read from the pre-op assessment that my BMI was high....my surgeon is one of the countries leading Bariatric surgeons (clues were there)....and of course I was not a private patient.

I have my own theory....I live on Winn Gardens.....maybe they thought someone off a council estate would filch their linen and toiletries and heaven forbid fat people clog up their pretty hospital.

When - in the cold light of day - I analyse the information THEY do not fit MY criteria. I am fussy and when I have surgery I want to be in the BEST place with the best equipment and teams on immediate call. I don't want to be in an NHS overspill annexe simply because it has carpet (:gag:) and pretty surroundings.

It's the Hallamshire for me....IMHO people who can afford to remove themselves from the best treatment facilitators to privately run places where profit comes before patients deserve to be charged silly prices. :hihi:

No Nuns at Claremont. Not any more.

Claremont does take people with a BMI of over 35 depending on the type of surgery they're having. So, go to the Hallamshire but compare their infection rates with Claremont's before you do.

I suspect the surgeon you speak of is the same one who operates regularly at Claremont because he knows they get the job done well.

No Nuns at Claremont. Not any more.

Claremont does take people with a BMI of over 35 depending on the type of surgery they're having. So, go to the Hallamshire but compare their infection rates with Claremont's before you do.

I suspect the surgeon you speak of is the same one who operates regularly at Claremont because he knows they get the job done well.

Well if they do...I wonder what other exclusive discriminatory criteria was used which meant that the date and time given to me was withdrawn?

Could it have been that I am from a council estate.....am on benefits - heaven forbid a posh hospital letting chav scum like me in :hihi: - I promise I won't make off with the towels and linen. Or was it that they don't like fat people making the place look unsightly.

Whatever the reason I am WAY too good for the annexe....:)

my brother in law had his knee done there and from start to finish he was treated really well. its free easy parking ,the staff are all friendly. they smile and say hello when you walk past them, and the porters are the best ive seen any where . not just sat down watching telly ,like one hospital i know.what i like about it is everyone looks asthough they enjoy being there , you dont hear them moaning about their work,and the nurses work really hard and you can have your op done ther on the nhs at no cost to you just ask your doctor . its called patient choice or just ring them and ask for details. the last time i was in the hallamshire visiting the main stairs needed a good sweep and a mopping you could have knitted a jumper with the fur balls on each step

No Nuns at Claremont. Not any more.

Claremont does take people with a BMI of over 35 depending on the type of surgery they're having. So, go to the Hallamshire but compare their infection rates with Claremont's before you do.

I suspect the surgeon you speak of is the same one who operates regularly at Claremont because he knows they get the job done well.

Or, maybe it's because he get's paid a premium rate to do so......

Infection rates, well, you could argue that the ratio of patient throughput into Claremont, and that of the RHH and NGH are worlds apart.

wherever you have less people, you have less infection.

Oh what rubbish!!
Chinese whispers or what.....


PLEASE stop with these crappy rumours and lets wait and see what happens.

Hattie

I hear that Claremont is haunted and built on an Indian burial ground.

Also all the surgeons have 6 fingers and only drink virgins blood.

Finally the hospital used to be called Middlewood but changed it's name and moved a few miles up the road one foggy night !!

On Christmas Eve I got letter from them saying they do not take people with a BMI over 35


Dont take it personally
Isnt it just simple economics?

You read about the governments plans to syphon off work to private sector companies (which some ex-ministers are paid by) only making sense if they take all the easy cases.

If its anything tricky then it just isnt worth their while for the money offered.
Its pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap.

So if you are fat the surgery will take longer, you will be in hospital longer and you will probably have more complications to be treated.

Im no expert but thats probably why Claremont chucked you

Deepak

So if you are fat the surgery will take longer, you will be in hospital longer and you will probably have more complications to be treated.

Deepak

I don't see how....the incisional hernia repair will take about an hour....as for being in hospital longer I will be out at the first opportunity (my opportunity not theirs)...my last op in September I managed less than 3 hours after they wheeled me back and dumped me on a ward!....I have had 5 surgical procedures in Sheffield and have had no complications with any of the previous ones.

The situation smells very fishy to me (and I am not talking about the contents of Baldricks Apple Crumble):hihi:

You shouldn't have such an inferiority complex - the fact that you're from Winn Gardens doesn't necessarily make you a bad person. Statistically there must be some lovely people who live there :hihi:

As Deepak says, the private sector cream off all the easy jobs and leave cases with a higher risk of complication to the NHS - and if your BMI is higher than 35 you are at greater risk.

Both my husband and my Mother have been patients there. It used to be a nice hospital with a good care system. Sad to hear it's for sale

Oh what rubbish!!
Chinese whispers or what.....

Claremont is for sale. Bids are due in in the middle of January. The owners of Claremont (HMT in London) have said they WILL NOT sell to any large company so Thornbury is a non starter! There have been four or five interested parties who have visited the hospital, at the moment no one knows what will happen. HMT have said, however, that if they are not happy with any of the bidders THEY WILL NOT SELL.

Claremont has a covenant on it which says it must be used as a hospital. It is a listed building and is being sold as a going concern. All the staff have been told that their terms and conditions are therefore protected under TUPE law.

PLEASE stop with these crappy rumours and lets wait and see what happens.

Hattie

I don't know how you can say they are crappy rumours when my comments stated, as you stated, that Clarempont IS for sale and they want it to be kept as a hospital. As for not wanting to sell to a large company read the Sheffield Star.:|

You're aware that not everything that appears in the newspaper is 100% accurate aren't you?

You're aware that not everything that appears in the newspaper is 100% accurate aren't you?

Without a doubt:)

Well i have been treated in there recently by a surgeon who actually works for the NGH he was fab, i would highyl recommend that hospital every member fo staff i came across was so good no matter what time of night i needed anything they were happy to help, i needed to go back in at the weekend because of some concerns and they saw me within half an hour on a saturday night, now thats something you dont get on the NHS so i would advise to anyone who can go private to do so you really do get far better treatment proper one on one care not just a number like in the NGH or RHH

Well i have been treated in there recently by a surgeon who actually works for the NGH he was fab, i would highyl recommend that hospital every member fo staff i came across was so good no matter what time of night i needed anything they were happy to help, i needed to go back in at the weekend because of some concerns and they saw me within half an hour on a saturday night, now thats something you dont get on the NHS so i would advise to anyone who can go private to do so you really do get far better treatment proper one on one care not just a number like in the NGH or RHH

But had you have needed any more specialised care than the usually routine - for instance HDU/ICU because something went wrong then you would have been taken straight back into the National Health system....ie RHH or NGH. The time it takes to get from Claremont to either of the NHS hospitals could be vital minutes.

And it all depends on how you define healthcare....if you want the feel of a hotel but without the essential backup if things don't go to planned - and of course you have the cash - then Claremont and Thornbury are your place.

If you want to know that if something goes wrong then you have everything on tap at a moments notice then a regular NHS hospital is for you.

I know which one I would choose

And by the way did your consultant visit you on his day off? Mine did - he was in jeans and casual top instead of immaculate suits....now that is what I call service :)

yes he did but was in his suit, when i was in there, they did have a dependcey unit tho so wasnt concerned at all if anything went wrong. Some pain relief that was given during surgery wa a risk but they was more that equipt to deal with it i really would recommend it and my surgeon he has been great from the first time i met him.

I'd rather see my surgeon out of his suit than in it.....ooops did I mean that.....actually yes, yes I did ;) :blush:

ha ha obsiously not same one i had then lol but really nice guy

[QUOTE=julado;3786586]But had you have needed any more specialised care than the usually routine - for instance HDU/ICU because something went wrong then you would have been taken straight back into the National Health system....ie RHH or NGH. The time it takes to get from Claremont to either of the NHS hospitals could be vital minutes.

I have recently been treated by a brilliant consultant at Claremont, who also works at NGH.

I have a heart complaint (not related to the op I was going in for), so before everything was agreed I had to have an assessment with the consultant, senior nurses and the anaesthetist before they would go ahead at Claremont, as they only have high dependancy unit and no ICU.

The final call was with the anaesthetist (hope I'm spelling that right as I know I will be told off if not!), and he said that he was happy to go ahead as planned.
If he had not agreed to it, then I would have been transferred (with the same consultant) over to the NGH. Therefore I am sure that if at all possible they pre-assess patients who might be at risk of needing ICU.

I for one would be sorry to see anything happen to Claremont, as my experience of it was fantastic and I could not praise the staff and the place enough. :thumbsup:

I'd rather see my surgeon out of his suit than in it.....ooops did I mean that.....actually yes, yes I did ;) :blush:

Him is well fit and buff :hihi:

Him is well fit and buff :hihi:

u going to say whoch one?????:hihi:

u going to say whoch one?????:hihi:

You must be the only one on this forum who doesn't know which one :hihi: I have posted about him on my hospital related threads. :D

I hope not or my lil mate of mine will be out of work :cry: