I've made a sort of resolution this year. I've decided that even though I still love clubbing and the culture around it and I will be trying to get out as much as possible I'm not going out in sheffield if I can help it. I'd rather spend more money on a road trip and see other cities and other clubs than waste much more money in sheffield.

It pains me to say this because some of the best nights i've had have been in sheffield but it seems to me that the venues, atmosphere, DJ's and crowds attitude just isn't right anymore. Sheffield clubbing is a pale imitation of what it was say 5 or 6 years ago. Don't get me wrong i'm not wanting to be a sad old moaning sod banging on about how good it used to be and its not as good any more because that wouldn't be true. When Sheffield gets it right its amazing. Freemasons and Coldcut at Plug this year were simply superb and were well worth being at, but Plug aside theres little that i'm optimistic about.

Now, I don't want to get into individual venues and nights and places because that isn't fair and as well the smoking ban is affecting clubbing badly. Its killing the atmosphere. Its no one persons or one clubs fault. I'm just appalled by the apathy of the sheffield clubbing public. The lack of suitable venues. The over abundance of Electro house and a few other things. So, i'm going to vote with my feet. I'm going to go to the cities I want to go to to see the DJ's I want to see.

Sorry sheffield. These days you just aren't doing the business. Of course the problem is the grass is rarely greener. I might be wasting my money. I might be utterly wrong. Then again, I might not

Lets see what the academy has in store for us. 6am licence on weekends are being talked about...I cant see it being wall to wall indie nights....

Whatever else please dont mention leeds in this thread, that city is heading the exact same way.

There are good nights where you find them. Or maybe you should stop moaning and put on an event yourself...?

For all the talk of Manchester and Leeds' nightlife being better than Sheffield, there are just 2 regular club nights between them that I enjoy, Sequence and Room 237. There may well be more, as I haven't been to every club night in either city. But then, I haven't been to every club night in Sheffield either.

I don't think it's a sheffield thing DD, even Ibiza has gone a bit crap.

The 90's were amazing times and i'm glad we experienced it and have the memories but i don't think those times will ever return - which is good cos we're all too old to do it anymore!

The few nights out over the hols have nearly killed me. I'm sat here destroyed from it all and am actually looking forward to work tomorrow and getting back into a (sensible) routine.

On the subject of the clubs scene I think prohibitive rentals charged by club owners are a big issue. With perhaps the exception of DQ most venue owners want external promoters to do all the hard work and pay a kings ransom in the form of venue rental for the benfit. This obviously means the promoter cant spend as much as he'd like on DJs/promotion and then by and large the events end up being decidedly average.

I think one compromise might be for the promoter to accept these rentals BUT demand say 2% of the bar takings or something, certainly the promoters need more incentive than they are getting at the moment.

I totally agree, Sheffield has gone down hill so much in the past few years. No variation at all !!!!!
Plug is the only venue that challenges Sheff and puts new stuff out there but I have to say it is hardly the club of the year, the venue is pretty poor when you compare it to all the 'super clubs' of the past (it pains me to say but in its height plug doesnt have a scratch on republic) and half the clubs even bars in Leeds, manc and Notts.

I would also contend not only clubs but the bars are awful, if you compare Sheff bar scene with Manc, Notts, Leeds its awful ! no bars have live DJs (who dont play poptastic rubbish), where are the bar DJs playing house, soulful house etc etc ?????

Man I sound like I am getting like an old man on this but Sheff nightlife is so bad.

Yes I could start my own nights as someone suggested but I am a little past that and done my fair share in the past no to mention I dont have time for most things so its a general comment about the city I used to love and be sooooooo proud of !!!!

Please youthful people of Sheffield ! start having pride again !

.... with the exception of Runaway Girl - last saturday was terrific!

Also hearing good things about Cellar35, The Quarter etc (of which i haven't yet been)

I have heard cellar35 is not so hot anymore, started off well but gone a bit down hill like the ruby lounge did...... great venues but it attracts the wrong crowd.....

agree runaway girl is a good bar...

Quarter ????????

Discodown, I think you should get over yourself.

I don't know you, but this thread reads like Violet Elizabeth Bott going into an "I'm not going out in sheffield any longer because I can't smoke and I'll scream and scream and scream untill I'm sick", kind of thing.

No matter how old you are, or what year, things often seemed better when you were a bit younger when you first started going out, not because it was better, it was because it was new and exciting when you first started doing it.

Discodown, I think you should get over yourself.

I don't know you, but this thread reads like Violet Elizabeth Bott going into an "I'm not going out in sheffield any longer because I can't smoke and I'll scream and scream and scream untill I'm sick", kind of thing.

No matter how old you are, or what year, things often seemed better when you were a bit younger when you first started going out, not because it was better, it was because it was new and exciting when you first started doing it.Firstly I should say I don't smoke. So its not because I can't smoke that i'm disillusioned. if that were the case I wouldn't go anywhere because the smoking ban doesn't just affect sheffield!

I've also been going clubbing for nearly 15 years and up until say 2 years ago it was as good as it ever was. its only been in the last year to 18 months that things are going downhill. I'm not being mardy or a cry baby i'm just making the point that sheffield isn't delivering what I want from a night out anymore so i'm going elsewhere to see if there are places that can.

Are you telling me that clubbing is as good as ever? Where are you going out? Clearly i'm missing something you're finding

I'm hoping the Carling Academy will a) have decent club nights, and b) give the rest of the cities clubbing scene a bit of a kick up the arse.

Are you telling me that clubbing is as good as ever? Where are you going out? Clearly i'm missing something you're finding
Firstly I am currently 38 so you get an idea of what eras of clubbing I am likely to have been around in.
I mainly go to pubs nowadays, but as I have got older I go to clubs less. My greatest club times were in my early 20s when I used to go to Rebels and Roxy rock night most weekends. I still go to clubs occasionally, but mainly to see bands.

I had a rather unsettling experience recently in the Leadmill, where I got talking to some younger lads, I found myself explaining some of my most memorable Leadmill experiences ( Jane's Addiction in around 1989 and Gun just after when the roof leaked like a waterfall over the stage while the band was still playing and soaking them), were probably before these lads were even born.
I remember going to Cairo Jax with my brother when they had a dresscode and a floorshow, and one of the main events of the night was the oops upside your head boat dance!

What I am maintaining, is that clubs never stay the same for long, and you need to find small exclusive clubs to have a great time, rather than opining that "it was better a couple of years ago". I can probably give an example of someone saying "it was better last year and it has gone bad now" every couple of years stretching back 40 years!

It is a fact that guitar music is growing as dance music shrinks at the moment, but the cycle comes and goes, I have seen this happen time and time again.

Firstly I am currently 38 so you get an idea of what eras of clubbing I am likely to have been around in.
I mainly go to pubs nowadays, but as I have got older I go to clubs less. My greatest club times were in my early 20s when I used to go to Rebels and Roxy rock night most weekends. I still go to clubs occasionally, but mainly to see bands.

I had a rather unsettling experience recently in the Leadmill, where I got talking to some younger lads, I found myself explaining some of my most memorable Leadmill experiences ( Jane's Addiction in around 1989 and Gun just after when the roof leaked like a waterfall over the stage while the band was still playing and soaking them), were probably before these lads were even born.
I remember going to Cairo Jax with my brother when they had a dresscode and a floorshow, and one of the main events of the night was the oops upside your head boat dance!

What I am maintaining, is that clubs never stay the same for long, and you need to find small exclusive clubs to have a great time, rather than opining that "it was better a couple of years ago". I can probably give an example of someone saying "it was better last year and it has gone bad now" every couple of years stretching back 40 years!

It is a fact that guitar music is growing as dance music shrinks at the moment, but the cycle comes and goes, I have seen this happen time and time again.I know what your saying but the entire experience is just not as good anymore. The music is as good as it ever was. Its the atmosphere thats at fault. The smoking ban is hitting hard and for dance music the atmosphere is everything. People just don't seem to be locked into the music anymore. The main exception being Coldcut this year who played an excellent hip hop set and the crowd were loving it. I just don't feel the sense of community I felt before

I know what your saying but the entire experience is just not as good anymore.

People just don't seem to be locked into the music anymore.

That's an awfully sweeping generalisation to make... What you mean the experience isn't as good for you.

The main exception being Coldcut this year who played an excellent hip hop set and the crowd were loving it. I just don't feel the sense of community I felt before

Some friends of mine were at the same gig who thought Coldcut were really poor that night. And they normally like Coldcut. The point I'm making here is that your opinions are not necessarily shared others.

Maybe you need to go to some different events..?

That's an awfully sweeping generalisation to make... What you mean the experience isn't as good for you.I mean that there doesn't seem to be as good an atmosphere anymore. It used to be that people stayed pretty much where they were in a club. There was little traffic, because they could stay there was more atmosphere, you were stood with roughly the same people all night so you tended to talk to them and get to know people. Now because people are shooting off to have a smoke there is loads of traffic and its distracting and people don't seem to be into the music as much. People have other things to think about. I realise this is likely to be the same in other cities but maybe the change of scenery will make me appreciate sheffield more.

Some friends of mine were at the same gig who thought Coldcut were really poor that night. And they normally like Coldcut. The point I'm making here is that your opinions are not necessarily shared others.

Maybe you need to go to some different events..? Maybe I do. its clear my opinion isn't shared by others but thats ok. If people are happy then good for them. Its me thats going to be increasing my spend on nights out and having to go to other cities.

Thing is I know there are people who regularly leave the city to go clubbing only thing is i'm vocal about it. Don't get me wrong when sheffield gets it right theres nowhere better but it just seems at the moment to be flat

Everyone has their heyday. When you first start going to a particular night/discover music you love, everything about it is viewed through rose-tinted glasses! Then you start to see the idiots who get involved, the lack of inspiration on the scene etc. The negatives are always there to an extent but it's thanks to the people who don't give up that there is a scene here at all.

I think one of the problems with the Sheffield clubbing scene (from the perspective of a promoter and DJ) is that the city has had to re-invent itself to a degree. The 2 main places to book big name DJ's and put on big events (in my opinion only) were Crasher and Bed and I suppose the Fez to a smaller degree. The two bigger ones are now closed/rubble and the Fez is only starting to put on quality underground nights again, I went to one a couple of weeks ago and it was fantastic.

Unfortunately people in Sheffield seem to be reluctant to try new things and therefore since the closing of the two "superclubs" many people are sticking to what they know and going to Manchester and Leeds etc (I am guilty of this myself on the occasion that one of my friends is DJing or to see DJ's like Sven Vath or Sasha who will be very unlikely to come to Sheffield in the near future). This inevitably affects the atmosphere because the clubbers are going to other places, in other cities, becuase they are less willing to try something they know less about closer to home so the important thing from a promo point of view is to get people to try something new and when enough people do so the nights build up and atmosphere grows.

The problems you site with attitude I haven't noticed if I'm perfectly honest as most of the nights I've been to have been very amicable and enjoyable. As example of this is on NYE when we did the Cargo @ Penelopes the management and door staff were very pleased (to say the least) about everyones conduct and everyone I met on the night was very friendly. This is not exclusive to Cargo either - all the small nights I have been to have been very friendly.

As a final note I think clubbing in Sheffield is having to re-invent itself but there are a lot of great up and coming nights and when they start to pick up a regular following they will go from strength to strength.

I've made a sort of resolution this year. I've decided that even though I still love clubbing and the culture around it and I will be trying to get out as much as possible I'm not going out in sheffield if I can help it. I'd rather spend more money on a road trip and see other cities and other clubs than waste much more money in sheffield.

It pains me to say this because some of the best nights i've had have been in sheffield but it seems to me that the venues, atmosphere, DJ's and crowds attitude just isn't right anymore. Sheffield clubbing is a pale imitation of what it was say 5 or 6 years ago. Don't get me wrong i'm not wanting to be a sad old moaning sod banging on about how good it used to be and its not as good any more because that wouldn't be true. When Sheffield gets it right its amazing. Freemasons and Coldcut at Plug this year were simply superb and were well worth being at, but Plug aside theres little that i'm optimistic about.

Now, I don't want to get into individual venues and nights and places because that isn't fair and as well the smoking ban is affecting clubbing badly. Its killing the atmosphere. Its no one persons or one clubs fault. I'm just appalled by the apathy of the sheffield clubbing public. The lack of suitable venues. The over abundance of Electro house and a few other things. So, i'm going to vote with my feet. I'm going to go to the cities I want to go to to see the DJ's I want to see.

Sorry sheffield. These days you just aren't doing the business. Of course the problem is the grass is rarely greener. I might be wasting my money. I might be utterly wrong. Then again, I might not

In what way?

Discodown, I think you should get over yourself.

I don't know you, but this thread reads like Violet Elizabeth Bott going into an "I'm not going out in sheffield any longer because I can't smoke and I'll scream and scream and scream untill I'm sick", kind of thing.

No matter how old you are, or what year, things often seemed better when you were a bit younger when you first started going out, not because it was better, it was because it was new and exciting when you first started doing it.

Here here well said muddycoffee my quote is rather than slag club pub or any other venue there r plenty more other places to go just try one off those till u get bored then move on every one happy then

In what way?You'll never understand and as soon as I try to explain it you'll stop me and not want to know

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing that Sasha hasn't been booked in Sheffield yet.... :)

The way some people go on about Republic/Gatecrasher 1, you'd think they were talking about Mecca. Big club yes, and I used to enjoy going, but I think it's fair to say it wasn't exactly known for a broad range of genres... I can't fault them for what they do; it works for them and pulls a crowd; but can you imagine Gatecrasher organising something as varied as Warehouse Project?

*there are venues of a similar size to that used by Warehouse Project, where something along those lines could work really well.......anyone got a few quid to spare?

Some people are implying that the smoking ban has decimated clubbing. I don't think that's the case at all, but then I haven't been going to the events some of you are frequenting. It certainly hasn't been a problem at anything we've put on, or any of the big nights I've been to.

There are good nights out there if you want to find them. And if there really is nobody else putting on the acts you want to see with the kind of atmosphere you want, then get in touch with a few venues and put some proposals forward.

Fez is back in full swing!! Craig Loftis a few fridays back was awesome!

Sven Vath played Urban Gorilla at the Fez if I remember correctly,

Are you sure?? That'd would have been a coup getting sven vath at the fez club...

Sasha hasn't been booked in Sheffield yet.... :)

I believe he played at Leadmill for Rise in about '96* but yes that is a fair while ago.

*I only know that because there is still a poster up for the event in The Vine.

I believe he played at Leadmill for Rise in about '96* but yes that is a fair while ago.

*I only know that because there is still a poster up for the event in The Vine.

I've got a feelin that Sasha played at the Arches - a long long time ago...

Are you sure?? That'd would have been a coup getting sven vath at the fez club...

Nope, I'm not sure actually. I never used to have much of a clue what was going on at Urban Gorilla when I was a regular...! Think I might have got it confused with someone who used to be resident at one of Sven's nights....

but Plug aside theres little that i'm optimistic about.





Plug is indeed a superb (and very friendly) venue; however, I miss Razor Stiletto being there (It's now moved to DQ), but I do occasionally visit Plug sometimes for special events such as the superb annual LOST VAGUENESS bash during Sheffield's annual Documentary Film Festival!

While I really overdid the 'going out' leading up to Christmas, to me, it was in the aid of needing to do 'networking' with friends in the clubbing industry, as well as keeping up my profile and general 'exposure', as I have invested considerable time and money in a career as a costumed performance artiste into singing, mime, dance and magic. I especially liked all the karaoke nights at one of my regular haunts (Hint!), as practice for some cabaret I was doing over Christmas (I'll be there again on next Wednesday, as I am practicing again for another event already!)
Finally, last but not least, even your average club/pub likes to put on numerous events in aid of charity; again I'm all too happy to work my a**e off to raise money locally for a good cause over Christmas by doing a performance to my fans..!

The problems you site with attitude I haven't noticed if I'm perfectly honest as most of the nights I've been to have been very amicable and enjoyable. As example of this is on NYE when we did the Cargo @ Penelopes the management and door staff were very pleased (to say the least) about everyones conduct and everyone I met on the night was very friendly. This is not exclusive to Cargo either - all the small nights I have been to have been very friendly.



Thank you Mr Dufrain. Can i remove my 3D glasses yet? :cool: I think they are quite fetching!

Penelope x

Sorry Disco, I vote you're just a moaning sod after spotting you in a secret booze shop this xmas buying special brew in a brown paper bag, whilst clinging onto your CD's for dear life!! ;)

The one thing I've always remained critical about Sheffield for is the summer......

I know many students go home but this is a city of half a million people; the students account for just over 50,000; and you can't say to me that every single student goes out in term time only. Why does everyone else hide away when the students leave?

Yeah I can't believe how this city dies over Summer... It really surprised me in the first year I was here. I do like some aspects of it though, easier to get a drink in bars, different atmosphere, and of course plenty of parties outside of the centre! It is a shame that things wind down quite so much though.

Sorry Disco, I vote you're just a moaning sod after spotting you in a secret booze shop this xmas buying special brew in a brown paper bag, whilst clinging onto your CD's for dear life!! ;)You are of course correct!

There is of course some hope. I will be going to Act Like Ya Know at Fez club as often as possible

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing that Sasha hasn't been booked in Sheffield yet.... :)

I.ve herad on the grapevine hes getting booked for a top venue in Sheffield sometime in 2008:)

As far as the nights in Sheffield, theres a night called Electrosexual @ Nylon, dont be deceased by the name though discodown as i noticed you are sick of all this "electro house" cause they have got wicked artists such as Dave Robertson, prok & fitch & Stupid fresh booked, in fact stupid fresh are there on January 12th, i think its a truly great underground night mate, that plays fantastic electronic music accross all the borders, so if your availible one month pop down and check it out mate, better than most of the other nights around bro.

Personally I don't see it as a bad thing that Sasha hasn't been booked in Sheffield yet.... :)

The way some people go on about Republic/Gatecrasher 1, you'd think they were talking about Mecca. Big club yes, and I used to enjoy going, but I think it's fair to say it wasn't exactly known for a broad range of genres... I can't fault them for what they do; it works for them and pulls a crowd; but can you imagine Gatecrasher organising something as varied as Warehouse Project?

*there are venues of a similar size to that used by Warehouse Project, where something along those lines could work really well.......anyone got a few quid to spare?

Some people are implying that the smoking ban has decimated clubbing. I don't think that's the case at all, but then I haven't been going to the events some of you are frequenting. It certainly hasn't been a problem at anything we've put on, or any of the big nights I've been to.

There are good nights out there if you want to find them. And if there really is nobody else putting on the acts you want to see with the kind of atmosphere you want, then get in touch with a few venues and put some proposals forward.



Well said mate.

I totally agree with you sheffield has nothing going for it i used to love going out in sheffield hitting all the clubs but they all seem to be closing down or dead, I am an upcoming Dj, only just turned 18 and have been lucky enough to play a one off gig in plug and also had a residency at fuel for over a year, it seems theres no where left to apply now in sheffield which is a shame to waste the talent i hold, not being a poptastic DJ but being an upfront funky house electro DJ, Sheffield is Dyin a terrible death i hope theres some new clubs soon :help::help::help:

I.ve herad on the grapevine hes getting booked for a top venue in Sheffield sometime in 2008:)

As far as the nights in Sheffield, theres a night called Electrosexual @ Nylon, dont be deceased by the name though discodown as i noticed you are sick of all this "electro house" cause they have got wicked artists such as Dave Robertson, prok & fitch & Stupid fresh booked, in fact stupid fresh are there on January 12th, i think its a truly great underground night mate, that plays fantastic electronic music accross all the borders, so if your availible one month pop down and check it out mate, better than most of the other nights around bro.
I have seen the promo you've been doing and I have to admit i'm intrigued, i'll try to check it out

Discodown you are right. Sheffield has been on the slow decline now for the past 5 years.
Fair enough on the whole the real club scene national has declined over the past decade but compare Sheffield to Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle and we carry the burden of shame. Even Doncaster & Chesterfield has better nightlife on a sunday night, thats how bad Sheffield has got. There are a lot of factors to this.
As much as Plug books massive name djs and offers good nights, as a product I am still puzzled on what is on each week and for me lacks consistency. My opinion thats all folks.Without name djs with all due respect to the residents but I feel Plug would fall flat.
I play in Leeds every week and every week I see many different Sheffield people saying how bad Sheffield is. As a dj I play right across the board and I have seen the music scene go back and forth but never has Sheffield become so stale no matter what music you are into. This is not no dig at Sheffield because I am passionate about good music and passionate about Sheffield but it saddens me when I can play an underground reggae set in Bridlington and then feel stifled to play Sean Paul in Sheffield because the crowd are not open minded enough. I even struggled to play Samim a month ago.
New Years Eve, alot of my mates headed straight to Manchester, simply because they knew they would have a good night, with the right music and atmosphere.
As much as Nylon is doing a decent job getting the punters in, I hate the music in there. It is just noise and fruityloops for me and lacks and creativity. I basically hate Electro house and would much rather techno or even jackin house. My main love is deep house and nu soul (real r&b), but i am not ignorant to other formats of music. One thing is definately needed a PROPER DANCE RADIO STATION RUN BY SHEFFIELD DJS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS please dont respond with Sheffield Live. Thats pathetic

Last time Sasha played Sheffield was years back when he and Digweed brought the nothern exposure night to the then republic. It was billed as a gatecrasher night but took place on a Friday.

As for Sheffield being dire, personally, I think the average Sheffield person will only follow the 'whats cool now' trend, i.e. electro house.

Leeds, Manc, London etc seem to have a more open minded view, hence you get massive and brilliant house names such as Doc Martin, Mark Farina, Miguel Migs, Kerri Chandler etc there all the time. Now, I know those names to a lot will be a 'who'..........that is exactly my point. People just dont get enough exposure.

Fez is back in full swing!! Craig Loftis a few fridays back was awesome!

Agreed! He restored my faith in Sheffield clubbing! Absolutely awesome night... not heard music like that for 3 or 4 years and the crowd was lovely :D

I think things are looking up for sheffield clubbing after a bit of a lull... I can't wait to try Penelopes and I hope Act Like Ya Know happens again very soon!

Last time Sasha played Sheffield was years back when he and Digweed brought the nothern exposure night to the then republic. It was billed as a gatecrasher night but took place on a Friday.

As for Sheffield being dire, personally, I think the average Sheffield person will only follow the 'whats cool now' trend, i.e. electro house.

Leeds, Manc, London etc seem to have a more open minded view, hence you get massive and brilliant house names such as Doc Martin, Mark Farina, Miguel Migs, Kerri Chandler etc there all the time. Now, I know those names to a lot will be a 'who'..........that is exactly my point. People just dont get enough exposure.

Spot on, I love those djs too. But Sheffield people have not got any exposure to these djs yet. There is no media to hear it.

Spot on, I love those djs too. But Sheffield people have not got any exposure to these djs yet. There is no media to hear it.Then Act Like Ya Know is the place for you! My prediction is that this year this night will be the night for people who genuinely love and respect the music. It'll be where the crowd is there because they want to be and not because they think it'll be cool to be there

Then Act Like Ya Know is the place for you! My prediction is that this year this night will be the night for people who genuinely love and respect the music. It'll be where the crowd is there because they want to be and not because they think it'll be cool to be there

Indeed, and, ACT LIKE YA KNOW will be back very soon, February with possibly the Inland Knights ? Now were are talking.

Dont also forget about Act Like Ya know's cousin night, PHUTURE BOOGIE, set to return soon for more deep house business.

Furthermore, if you like this kind of thing, may I suggest you try out nights such as Keep In Time, Diasha and Lights Down Low.

The nights are out there, you just have to look further than the big corporate brands.

Further more, what really does annoy me is when you get people crying about the lack of decent nights that cater for scenes that are not represented enough. YET, when people actually put them on, not enough of these people show up to show support. So, in a lot of ways, the people who complain are to blame for the lack of what they actually want.

It's pretty easy really, show support to what you want/like and it will continue.

:)

Discodown you are right. Sheffield has been on the slow decline now for the past 5 years.
Fair enough on the whole the real club scene national has declined over the past decade but compare Sheffield to Leeds, Manchester and Newcastle and we carry the burden of shame. Even Doncaster & Chesterfield has better nightlife on a sunday night, thats how bad Sheffield has got. There are a lot of factors to this.
As much as Plug books massive name djs and offers good nights, as a product I am still puzzled on what is on each week and for me lacks consistency. My opinion thats all folks.Without name djs with all due respect to the residents but I feel Plug would fall flat.
I play in Leeds every week and every week I see many different Sheffield people saying how bad Sheffield is. As a dj I play right across the board and I have seen the music scene go back and forth but never has Sheffield become so stale no matter what music you are into. This is not no dig at Sheffield because I am passionate about good music and passionate about Sheffield but it saddens me when I can play an underground reggae set in Bridlington and then feel stifled to play Sean Paul in Sheffield because the crowd are not open minded enough. I even struggled to play Samim a month ago.
New Years Eve, alot of my mates headed straight to Manchester, simply because they knew they would have a good night, with the right music and atmosphere.
As much as Nylon is doing a decent job getting the punters in, I hate the music in there. It is just noise and fruityloops for me and lacks and creativity. I basically hate Electro house and would much rather techno or even jackin house. My main love is deep house and nu soul (real r&b), but i am not ignorant to other formats of music. One thing is definately needed a PROPER DANCE RADIO STATION RUN BY SHEFFIELD DJS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS please dont respond with Sheffield Live. Thats pathetic


Deep House and Nu Soul all the way.

Shame the electric chair does not move its ass from Manc to Sheff.........then again, the dj's would probably get hassle for not playing 'banging sexy vocal electro house'

Massive lol.

Indeed, and, ACT LIKE YA KNOW will be back very soon, February with possibly the Inland Knights ? Now were are talking.

Dont also forget about Act Like Ya know's cousin night, PHUTURE BOOGIE, set to return soon for more deep house business.

Furthermore, if you like this kind of thing, may I suggest you try out nights such as Keep In Time, Diasha and Lights Down Low.

The nights are out there, you just have to look further than the big corporate brands.

Thats totally cool bro. theres loads a boiling, reach peeps. Liam whens the Lounge in effect again?

The one thing I've always remained critical about Sheffield for is the summer......

I know many students go home but this is a city of half a million people; the students account for just over 50,000; and you can't say to me that every single student goes out in term time only. Why does everyone else hide away when the students leave?

Yes there are half a million people aged 0 - 100 in Sheffield. I don't know the exact figures but let's say 100,000 of them are in the 18-30 demographic that mainly frequent bars and clubs. If 50,000 of them are students that surely means half of the going out population of Sheffield disappears in the holidays doesn't it?

Thats totally cool bro. theres loads a boiling, reach peeps. Liam whens the Lounge in effect again?

Now then Mr Marek, happy new year.

Lounge is in effect, think im there this Saturday, actually.

Spot on, I love those djs too. But Sheffield people have not got any exposure to these djs yet. There is no media to hear it.

They used to, Scuba way back had the likes of Doc Martin, Migs etc on. I have seen some amazing acts/dj's there, tortured soul, schmoove, LARRY HEARD, Dj Ra-Soul etc etc. But, again, sometimes the club would be half full cos the Sheffield people were more bothered about dressing up like a 3 year old wanna be sid vicious and go listen to Judge Jules (then slag him off a few months later cos it was suddenly not so cool to like trance).......because it was popular scene at the time (deep breath).

Shame, really. The city got chewed up by the big corporate brands and lost it's soul somewhat.

Thank God things seem to be happening again. Maybe the 'sad' departure of a certain superbrand will actually allow the smaller fish to provide more diversity ? I hope so.

Then Act Like Ya Know is the place for you! My prediction is that this year this night will be the night for people who genuinely love and respect the music. It'll be where the crowd is there because they want to be and not because they think it'll be cool to be there

Dont forget about Phuture Boogie, too, Mo fo !:rant:;)

They are both going to be reeeeet good,

Tha knows.

Further more, what really does annoy me is when you get people crying about the lack of decent nights that cater for scenes that are not represented enough. YET, when people actually put them on, not enough of these people show up to show support. So, in a lot of ways, the people who complain are to blame for the lack of what they actually want.

It's pretty easy really, show support to what you want/like and it will continue.

:)Its not in a lot of ways, its in every way.

Yes there are half a million people aged 0 - 100 in Sheffield. I don't know the exact figures but let's say 100,000 of them are in the 18-30 demographic that mainly frequent bars and clubs. If 50,000 of them are students that surely means half of the going out population of Sheffield disappears in the holidays doesn't it?

I wonder where the remaining 50,000 go during Summer then... It drops off way below half!

Well I guess it depends where you're going, pubs feel quite empty to me but some of the clubs don't really drop that much in terms of turn-out

well i think that DD just misses BED, and his freedom.
I can see his point though, more and more people are being sucked into the commercialism of it all, standing round looking posh and not daring to move in case they spoil their expensive clothes/haircut and are just a bit more inhibited and self concious.
But perhaps after clubbing in the same city for years perhaps he wants a change. They do say that variety is the spice of life!
As for me - i am perfectly poised to give him a slap - and have just done so!

Im affaraid people from Sheffield need to broadin there horizons, like alot of you said, more n more people jus seem to go where its "cool", i mean could you ever see a successfeul minimal night ever being run in sheffield, take kEtAlOcA in leeds or dirty disco. When dirty disco was at nylon, the majority of clubbers struggled to get the music, Denni was only playin stuff like Gel Abril and Audion, thats why Leeds is head over heels in front of sheffield on the clubbing scene, cause they go where theres good music & not jus go where its seems to be "cool" in fact most people from sheff are into fakin basslines n paying £50 on NYE to get into vibe.

...in fact most people from sheff are into fakin basslines...

And? I thought you were saying that there wasn't enough to do in Sheffield? At least Vibe is putting something different on from the same old same old 'fakin' electro! :hihi:

i mean could you ever see a successfeul minimal night ever being run in sheffield.

Have you ever heard of Cargo?? They have been running a minimal night in Sheffield for the last 2 years. They have run nights at DQ, Corporation, Plug and most recently Penelopes on NYE, with Chimpanzoo from Leeds who have been dubbed the new 'Ketoloco'.

Like alot of people have already said on here, you need to look beyond the obvious places and you will find there is actually some decent stuff kicking off in Sheffield now.

Mate ive heard of cargo, supposed to be a wicked night will try to get down some time.
And Mez as far as basslines go, how can they be puttin something different on when its the same basseline night which has been running in sheffield for the last 9 years.

Nope, I'm not sure actually. I never used to have much of a clue what was going on at Urban Gorilla when I was a regular...! Think I might have got it confused with someone who used to be resident at one of Sven's nights....

It was prob Frank Lorber, he played UG Undercover while at Fez, he's on Cocoon - Svens Label. Fecking quality booking too!!

On a different subject matter, many thanks for the kind comments above. New Year was indeed a superb night and we are pleased to announce Penelope’s will be our new home. If you’ve not already been down to Penelope’s or indeed know where it is, you need to get out more, it’s a great venue and is exactly what Sheffield has been lacking in recent years!

We have lots lined up for the forthcoming year, starting on 16th February – More details and line-up to follow soon.

Yes there are half a million people aged 0 - 100 in Sheffield. I don't know the exact figures but let's say 100,000 of them are in the 18-30 demographic that mainly frequent bars and clubs. If 50,000 of them are students that surely means half of the going out population of Sheffield disappears in the holidays doesn't it?

I take your point, but of those 50,000 students, I'm pretty sure they don't all go out regularly, and most of them don't go to the kind of events we're talking about. If they did, club nights from UG to Cargo to Rough Disko and every dance orientated night in the city would sell out every month.

I'd be interested to tally up what each club and promoter has through the door for each event.

What's the big deal here? Isn't this what most people do every weekend? Look around, see what you fancy and do it whether it's in your home town or not. Coming from Bradford originally I've been doing this for the last 14 years.

What's the big deal here? Isn't this what most people do every weekend? Look around, see what you fancy and do it whether it's in your home town or not. Coming from Bradford originally I've been doing this for the last 14 years.I'm surprised this is all you have to say on the subject

To be honest this sort of thread drains me now. We've been over this god knows how many times. I've just come to the conclusion that unless I pack up and move to Detroit/Chicago or Berlin I'm pretty much screwed.

The sad irony is our gratious city of Sheffield/ 4th - 5th largest city in the UK, clearly is lacking in entertainment. Come on people, just because your music criteria may be catered for, it is still poor. Considered the amount of money is given in funding the arts sector, music etc.

If anyone can find me a club that is over 25's for clubbers then I may rest my laurels but this is a small demand example to ask for the city of Sheffield.
If you can find me a house club that plays pure real house music NOT Electro crap.
If you can find me a club or bar playing real R&B NOT pop R&B crap.
If you can find me a club or bar playing real Hip Hop NOT HIP POP.
If you can find me a club or bar playing authentic disco, not the same old Bee Gees, Gloria Gayner pop stuff.
If you can find me a club or bar playing up to date good reggae music, not poppy bashment.
If you can find me a drum n bass night that is weekly on the weekend your hard pushed.
For all the club owners in Sheffield reading this, 2008 IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. BRING BACK REAL MUSIC AND REAL CLUBBERS.

Why don't you try and start up one of those nights? I'm not entirely sure what a 'real' clubber is, but I reckon if you're playing 'real' music they might come along.

To be honest this sort of thread drains me now. We've been over this god knows how many times. I've just come to the conclusion that unless I pack up and move to Detroit/Chicago or Berlin I'm pretty much screwed.


Detroit is bobbins, nothing but Rap and R&B when I went. I was sorely disappointed!

If you can find me a house club that plays pure real house music NOT Electro crap.
If you can find me a club or bar playing real R&B NOT pop R&B crap.
If you can find me a club or bar playing real Hip Hop NOT HIP POP.
If you can find me a club or bar playing authentic disco, not the same old Bee Gees, Gloria Gayner pop stuff.
If you can find me a club or bar playing up to date good reggae music, not poppy bashment.
If you can find me a drum n bass night that is weekly on the weekend your hard pushed.
For all the club owners in Sheffield reading this, 2008 IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. BRING BACK REAL MUSIC AND REAL CLUBBERS.Act Like Ya Know and Phuture Boogie do play pure house but unfortunately they are monthly

No R&B especially at the weekend that i know of

No real Hip Hop or maybe tuesday club do?

Nowhere plays authentic real disco much to my dismay

I think that Sadacca and possibly Cactus club play reggae

No weekly dnb night to my knowledge

If you can find me a drum n bass night that is weekly on the weekend your hard pushed.

We already have Tuesday Club and Bass Bar on a weekly basis. Granted, not at the weekend. However, Detonate, Feedback and Flux are monthly and all at the weekend, so 12 DnB nights per month isn't bad going. Plus there's the stuff that Junglist Alliance get up to.

What more do you want?

Why don't you try and start up one of those nights? I'm not entirely sure what a 'real' clubber is, but I reckon if you're playing 'real' music they might come along.

Exactly - its not rocket science if there is such a big untapped market out there - book a venue, hire some DJs, print some flyers, book some ads - and then (if you are right) watch the crowds & cash come rolling in...

Or alternatively... do nothing & continue moaning on internet forums...

I'll contribute to this post in the next couple of days, I've parted company with DQ and will be doing something fresh real soon hopefully, just waiting to confirm the venues

Nowhere plays authentic real disco much to my dismay



Hello Disco!

Well, well, well. You are in for a treat @ Penelopes this year. The first date is in March. We plan to launch the publicity and announce the name during the last week in Jan, so keep your eyes peeled! or become a facebook friend (Search Penelopes Sheffield) to get the most up to date info, guest list invites etc.

Penelope x

Penelope x

If anyone can find me a club that is over 25's for clubbers then I may rest my laurels but this is a small demand example to ask for the city of Sheffield.




Hello,

Most of our customers are over 25.

Having read this whole thread I am delighted to see the names of (and positive comments about) so many events which have either run or are planned at Penelopes. Lights Down Low, Cargo and Rough Disko all feature in our 2008 schedule. And, in addition to them, during 2007 we've also played host to Kabal, Feedback, Future Funk, Noggins, Goodfolk, Modern Romance, Ridimtion. We hosted private parties for the Planet Zogg gang and the Happy Mondays among others, and some of these events are planned to return in 08 too. The Kik Cat Klub, which is Goth, Alt is continuing it's successful run with us and at the end of Jan we will be announcing the launch of a new venture which is firmly in the realm of Authentic Disco.

Good stuff is out there, good events are happening and 2008 might just prove to be very exciting indeed! :D

Penelope x

I much prefer a night in Manc, Newcastle, or even Leeds. Sheffield doesn't have a great deal to offer for nightlife. However, I was in Cellar 35 on Saturday night, and I liked it in there....

Its well known sheffield is a very boring place - anytime I am away from the city that fact really hits me when I come back ...

Hello,

Most of our customers are over 25.

Having read this whole thread I am delighted to see the names of (and positive comments about) so many events which have either run or are planned at Penelopes. Lights Down Low, Cargo and Rough Disko all feature in our 2008 schedule. And, in addition to them, during 2007 we've also played host to Kabal, Feedback, Future Funk, Noggins, Goodfolk, Modern Romance, Ridimtion. We hosted private parties for the Planet Zogg gang and the Happy Mondays among others, and some of these events are planned to return in 08 too. The Kik Cat Klub, which is Goth, Alt is continuing it's successful run with us and at the end of Jan we will be announcing the launch of a new venture which is firmly in the realm of Authentic Disco.

Good stuff is out there, good events are happening and 2008 might just prove to be very exciting indeed! :D

Penelope xIf anyone in town was going to do it or could do it it was going to be you! Well done, i'll be there for it

Hello,

Most of our customers are over 25.

Having read this whole thread I am delighted to see the names of (and positive comments about) so many events which have either run or are planned at Penelopes. Lights Down Low, Cargo and Rough Disko all feature in our 2008 schedule. And, in addition to them, during 2007 we've also played host to Kabal, Feedback, Future Funk, Noggins, Goodfolk, Modern Romance, Ridimtion. We hosted private parties for the Planet Zogg gang and the Happy Mondays among others, and some of these events are planned to return in 08 too. The Kik Cat Klub, which is Goth, Alt is continuing it's successful run with us and at the end of Jan we will be announcing the launch of a new venture which is firmly in the realm of Authentic Disco.

Good stuff is out there, good events are happening and 2008 might just prove to be very exciting indeed! :D

Penelope x

To be fair I think the problem lies with the venues more than the nights that are on. It's all very well listing these events, but at the end of the day the only thing that makes one night different to the other in a set venue is the noise that comes out of the speakers.

The venues blow in Sheffield, changing the music won't help.

To be fair I think the problem lies with the venues more than the nights that are on. It's all very well listing these events, but at the end of the day the only thing that makes one night different to the other in a set venue is the noise that comes out of the speakers.

The venues blow in Sheffield, changing the music won't help.I disagree. Get the music right and everything else falls into place

I get the impression that some of the people moaning about venues in Sheffield probably haven't been to all of them either.

^^Yeah, I was gonna say, have you ever been to Penelopes mholey? Or are you just making assumptions?

^^Yeah, I was gonna say, have you ever been to Penelopes mholey? Or are you just making assumptions?

No I haven't actually, where is it, I'd be more than happy to go down for a night though....

If anyone in town was going to do it or could do it it was going to be you! Well done, i'll be there for it

Steve, wipe your nose, its looking brown ;)

*accepts a tissue off liam*

We already have Tuesday Club and Bass Bar on a weekly basis. Granted, not at the weekend. However, Detonate, Feedback and Flux are monthly and all at the weekend, so 12 DnB nights per month isn't bad going. Plus there's the stuff that Junglist Alliance get up to.

What more do you want?

Don't think Bass Bar is weekly anymore. :( Used to go every week!

To be fair I think the problem lies with the venues more than the nights that are on. It's all very well listing these events, but at the end of the day the only thing that makes one night different to the other in a set venue is the noise that comes out of the speakers.

The venues blow in Sheffield, changing the music won't help.

Good Morning Mholey,

I'm pleased you might pop down to Penelopes sometime, when you do, make yourself known to me and we can have a good old chinwag. Listening to what customers have to say is always a useful and productive excersize. It provides us (Venue Operators and Promoters) with an opportunity to address directly, first hand the very essence of what we spend much of our time and efforts trying to second guess....What will make the customer happy, and that is the goal we are all working towards.

In part i agree that a change of music does not change a venue. Things like the friendliness of the satff, cleanliness, choice and availability of drinks offer etc. Getting all those thing right provides the basic foundation for a successful event. But utilising lighting and decor any venue can be adapted to generate the desired atmosphere, appropriate to the event, given that the scale of the event matches the capacity. Several times over the last few months people have said to me 'i don't remember it (Penelopes) being like this when i came to such and such event, it seemed bigger or smaller or a different shape' . That's great to hear, we want to maintain customers interest, and one of the ways in which we do that is dressing the venue.

I also agree with Discos point about getting the music right being a key issue. The 'type' of music does determine to a large degree the 'type' of crowd. If people feel comfortable, surrounded by thier peers and indulging a common appreciation of the music, then the experience of those individuals, at any given event will be enhanced.

Earlier in this thread, (i think it was Jake, Hello Jake :)) laid out the basic formula for promoting an event and suggested someone should start a night if they don't like what is on offer. I'm all for people giving it a go!, but event promotion is a skill, time consuming and sometimes soul-destroying and thankless so perhaps an easier route would be for such people to speak with venues and established promoters about what they feel is lacking. Not everyone will take it on board but if the ideas are genuinely good someone just might!

It is unrealistic to expect that everyone will like everything you do (as a venue or promoter) so we (venues and promoters) can only do what we can do to the best of our abilities and hope that we're hitting the mark for at least some of the people all of the time. And that is why threads like this are invaluable!

So getting back to your post quoted above, it's not very helpful to say the problem is with the venues rather than the nights that are put on, What is helpful is if you could expand upon that and quantify exactly what the problem is, in your opinion. I think venues should do XYZ, I don't think venues should do XYZ is much more specific and gives us all a fighting chance of addressing our customer needs, which is, afterall, what we seek to do.:)

Penelope x