Hey up.

Anyone else had their car broken into in the S20 area lately?

Me and my other half are only 21, yet this is the 3rd vehicle we've had broken into/stolen.

Funnily enough, we've not seen a copper all 3 times, although I would like to thank the CSI type bloke who came earlier and had a few minutes look at some CD's to check for prints (but didn't look at the actual car?! :confused:).

On this latest occasion, they just smashed the lock and ransacked the car. There were items in the car (my football training stuff was in the boot) but they left it. Makes me think they were just looking for a SatNav.

Just makes me wonder what we pay our taxes for. I know its an old Chestnut, but for a young couple in their first house, the expense of constantly having the car wrecked is getting tedious. Its parked on our plot of a communal off-road parking garage in full view of around 20 properties.

Bloody scum :rant:

My mum visited me on thursday (27th) due to my brother and sister being with her and several kids they travelled from Wales in 2 cars. They were only there for a few hours but when we went out to the cars to see them off someone had put half a brick thro their back window. First impression was that they hadn't taken anything until my 4 year old nephew started looking for his nintendo ds.
One of my neighbours shouted me and gave a good description of them but hadn't known which house the cars were visiting to be able to report it.
I am in the S20 area too.

depends where abouts in sheff 20,its a big area?

no not on the heathlands estate, never known any crime here but thats only referring to my house and car in 12 years.

I live on the Meadowcroft estate, not all that far from the trouble hotspot that is Westfield Centre but it seems so much quieter than the Garland estate where we were before (Also in Westfield near the Joseph Glover).

Sorry to hear about your mum Lorraine. The only thing worse than having your own car broken into is having a visitors car broken into.

Speaks volumes for the way this area is going downhill fast in certain parts.

sadly the police dont have the budget to investigate low level car crime, this is down to the goverment! i understand your annoyance at the police, but unless there is a "named offender" there is little they can do, i know people expect the police to solve every crime but often there is little or no evidence. And the force does not have to funds to send every car off to scenes of crime for examination. Chances are that whoever broke into your car, they wore gloves and wont have left prints. is snding a scenes of crime person over the police are actually doing what they can at this stage in the investigation, obviously if the person left prints and is on the fingerprint database, then they will be talking to that individual.

i take it the cd's he looked at had been in the car? if so and they had been disturbed by the offender, then they will be the best avenue to look at for prints, cd surfaces hold prints well. In addition to that what was the weather like on the night it occured, ifit was was wet or misty, then chances are there wont be any prints in ur car as the wet destroys fingerprints. Sorry to hear bout ur car pal.

Yeah I understand troubledjoe, I don't expect the police to try and solve every crime they receive, but of my own personal experiences my opinion of them gets lower and lower each time.

We're not trouble causers here, we very rarely need them. On the occasions we have, the outcomes have been:

Other halfs brother got assaulted by a local chav he actually knew. Police lost the pictures of the injuries just before the court case and the guilty party walked free.

I had a motorbike stolen, never saw a police officer. I could hear it being sped round the estate and the police still wouldn't come. Went looking for it myself and thankfully never got my hands on the scum who did it, otherwise I'm sure I'd have seen a sudden jump to action in that case by the SYP.

Other half had her old car broken into by our neighbour. Witnesses and Fingerprints. No action taken - honestly. The lad in question ended up being sent down for other offences a year or two later, but hardly a consolation at the time.

Car broken into and ransacked this time, bloke spends a few minutes looking at some CD cases then decides he needs to go to another crime, without even looking at our car.

But the one that REALLY gets my goat, and needs saying, is my sister (early teens) had a bloke exposing himself to her about 3 months ago. At the time we were informed it was happening regularly and police were looking into it (on the same morning he exposed himself to two other young girls). No coppers actually came to interview sis, we were told it was being passed to CID and they would come and chat with her. 3 months later still not seen anyone, just informed he's STILL at it. Funnily enough, they called and asked to come round for an interview, how can my sister remember crucial details 3 months after the event?

When we see things like that happening, its really dis-heartning.

Especially considering my matchday experience today will invariably involve being filmed by 3 or more coppers, and walking past at least 50 coppers doing some soft overtime. There will be Helicopter, Dogs, Horses and foot plod. All for a game which will see NO trouble whatsoever.

Perhaps we ought to have said the pervert was wearing a football scarf, we may have seen someone then..

If a perv gets away with exposing himself for some time he will move it to the next level i would think,disgusting the police don't seem interested in this.My wife saw a young guy masturbating while watching young girls at heeley city farm last year and they did come round take a statement and did a police sketch over phone ??

Horrible thought isn't in Wallace?

I'm sure its not a lack of interest, but officers from Moss Way just seem to have too much to do. It almost seems like there's no real point in ringing them - they are just too busy.

If a perv gets away with exposing himself for some time he will move it to the next level i would think,disgusting the police don't seem interested in this.My wife saw a young guy masturbating while watching young girls at heeley city farm last year and they did come round take a statement and did a police sketch over phone ??

sorry, but what does this have to do with car crime, you tend to find car criminals stick to low level car crime. You are right in that sex offenders often start low and get worse, but sex crimes are treated with the highest importance.

How do you know the police arnt interested in this? they have sent scenes of crime officers to take prints, the OP does not know who commited the cime and hasnt seen the offender.... so how could the plice possibly do a sketch of the offenders face.

Horrible thought isn't in Wallace?

I'm sure its not a lack of interest, but officers from Moss Way just seem to have too much to do. It almost seems like there's no real point in ringing them - they are just too busy.

and they are no way as busy as officers at Attercliffe!!

sorry, but what does this have to do with car crime, you tend to find car criminals stick to low level car crime. You are right in that sex offenders often start low and get worse, but sex crimes are treated with the highest importance.

How do you know the police arnt interested in this? they have sent scenes of crime officers to take prints, the OP does not know who commited the cime and hasnt seen the offender.... so how could the plice possibly do a sketch of the offenders face.

I was responding to the post above mine not hijacking.I was puzzled by the over the phone sketch too that's why i put the question marks.If you read Navigators post it's clear they weren't interested in the case they didn't even interview his teenage sister.

Troubledjoe, I'm not sure if your a copper yourself, but you seem to be very defensive of the Police.

We are not suggesting that they don't wish they had the resources to tackle crime.

We are not suggesting that they don't wish to catch the criminals.

But it just isn't happening in our area. That is the reality. I don't know whether its mis-allocation of funds, lack of actual sufficient numbers, red tape, but nothing seems to be done. The bloke didn't even look at where they had drilled a hole into the side of the car.

And I'm not lying about the case either. This is the absolute truth. The only reason my rents have not pushed this is because my sister is embarrased and just wants it to go away (understandible).

No interview in 3 months. Scary.

Yeah I understand troubledjoe, I don't expect the police to try and solve every crime they receive, but of my own personal experiences my opinion of them gets lower and lower each time.

We're not trouble causers here, we very rarely need them. On the occasions we have, the outcomes have been:

QUOTEOther halfs brother got assaulted by a local chav he actually knew. Police lost the pictures of the injuries just before the court case and the guilty party walked free.QUOTE

obviously i dont have anyknowledge of these cases other than what you have offered. If evidence has been lost by the police i can totally understand your disapointment! How the pics could have been lost is personally beyond me as they should have been booked into a property store for safe keeping til the trial.

QUOTEI had a motorbike stolen, never saw a police officer. I could hear it being sped round the estate and the police still wouldn't come. Went looking for it myself and thankfully never got my hands on the scum who did it, otherwise I'm sure I'd have seen a sudden jump to action in that case by the SYP.QUOTE

as previously mentioned, the police often cant keep up with the volume of crimes that they have to deal with! sadly certain crimes HAVE to take priority over other, theres a good chance that on the night your theft occured, the police were literally run of their feet. Do you know it wasdefinately your bike that was being sped around the estate, or are you taking an educated guess? What can happen is the details of the crime are taken over the phone and a visit isnt required, there isnt a great deal can be done face to face that cant be done over the phone, especially if it is a crime with no known suspects and very little evidence.

QUOTEOther half had her old car broken into by our neighbour. Witnesses and Fingerprints. No action taken - honestly. The lad in question ended up being sent down for other offences a year or two later, but hardly a consolation at the time.QUOTE

I imagine that in this case the CPS would not run the job, its a bit of a misconception that its the choice of the police not to proceed with something. if enough evidence is present, then you can pretty much guarantee that if it is dropped it will be down to the CPS. this annoys officers as much as victims.

QUOTECar broken into and ransacked this time, bloke spends a few minutes looking at some CD cases then decides he needs to go to another crime, without even looking at our car.QUOTE

I imagine the SOCO bloke knew what would hold the best evidence and as i previously stated, cd cases are good for prints. I dont know the conditions of the day, but im sure he would have done his best, he's a professional in his field and would most likely know what is best for evidence.

QUOTE.But the one that REALLY gets my goat, and needs saying, is my sister (early teens) had a bloke exposing himself to her about 3 months ago. At the time we were informed it was happening regularly and police were looking into it (on the same morning he exposed himself to two other young girls). No coppers actually came to interview sis, we were told it was being passed to CID and they would come and chat with her. 3 months later still not seen anyone, just informed he's STILL at it. Funnily enough, they called and asked to come round for an interview, how can my sister remember crucial details 3 months after the event?QUOTE

obviously this is an important case, i imagine it caused a greeat deal of upset for our family, and its sad that anybody should be subjected to that. All i can say is that CID officers are extremely busy (as are all officers), and sometimes it can take a long time to take a statement. I am in no way admonishing anybody, i understand your anger. In a perfect world an officer would have been round straight away.Sadly there are not enough police officers out there, the goverment just wont pay for them. There is often 1 CID officer to cover the whole of sheffield at night! if they get called to an important job.... there are none!

When we see things like that happening, its really dis-heartning.

Especially considering my matchday experience today will invariably involve being filmed by 3 or more coppers, and walking past at least 50 coppers doing some soft overtime. There will be Helicopter, Dogs, Horses and foot plod. All for a game which will see NO trouble whatsoever.

Perhaps we ought to have said the pervert was wearing a football scarf, we may have seen someone then..

In relation to football, whether the match has low potential for violence of high, when there are thousands of people congregated in an area, where emotions are high and drink is flowing... you need a lot of police. At a match it only takes 1 fight to cause a mass riot. Surely you would rather there be lots of officers there than have something similar to the hillsbrough disater again. In realtion to over time... yes there are officers there on over time, but it is deemed necessary, believe me the force doesnt just give overtime willy nilly, it has a very tight budget.. that seems to be getting tighter all te time. I'll say what i do to everybody that hlods these views... write to your MP saying that you want more officers. This is not buck passing, police are literally run off their feet. I use this as an example only and not for any form of sympathy, i chose to be a police officer, to me its the best job in the world and i love it.... but i eat about a third of what i used to, i have lost lots of weight and my sleeping pattern is shot. A lot of the time i lterally do not have time to eat! WE are simply that busy, and if its between me eating or potentially catching a person that has knicked somebodys motorbike, then i will try to get that person every time! Officers out there care a great deal about the public and catchng criminals, but it simply is not as cut and dried as peopl think... or see on telly. I am sorry that you feel let down, i hope at some point the police can restore your faith in them!

PS: MY ANSWER TO YOUR INITIAL POST ARE IN THE GREY SECTION, IM NOT AN IT WHIZ!! sorry

. First impression was that they hadn't taken anything until my 4 year old nephew started looking for his nintendo ds.


Leaving anything of value in view is a open invitation to have a brick put through your window, it shouldn’t
be but sadly it is.
:(

Troubledjoe, I really appreciate that you took the time to answer those questions. As I have kept saying - it really isn't a dig at any personal officers, I just dispair sometimes at how people can continue to get away with crimes against us - however petty.

Do you think its more officers we need, or less paperwork? (or even both!)

As someone who hasn't long been moved out and paying Council Tax, it makes me wonder where my CT actually goes..

It must be awful when this happens, I suppose the most you can do yourself to stop this happening again is to clear out your car everytime you leave it unattended, or lock things up in the boot. If they're looking for sat nav, do you have one? Is there that tell tale sucker mark on your windscreen? Can be a good idea to clean out your glove compartment and leave it open at night, if they can see there's nothing in the car and obviously nothing in the glove compartment then that might be enough to make them look for an easier target.

If theft of the actual car is a problem, you could get a crook lock?

I know you want the police to find those responsible but at least you might be able to prevent it happening again.

We don't have a SatNav, no. I think the glove compartment trick might be worth a go. Looks like they didn't even try the ignition this time, although when someone tried to nick our old Corsa, it had one of them locks on the Hand Brake - they just took the top off the gear stick and lifted it over. I was so naive, I didn't think for a million years it would be THAT simple and that our heavy lock was clearly so ineffective.

Hey up mate,

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

Happy new year anyway.

Troubledjoe, I really appreciate that you took the time to answer those questions. As I have kept saying - it really isn't a dig at any personal officers, I just dispair sometimes at how people can continue to get away with crimes against us - however petty.

Do you think its more officers we need, or less paperwork? (or even both!)

As someone who hasn't long been moved out and paying Council Tax, it makes me wonder where my CT actually goes..

no mate, i know your not having a personal dig, and thats why i took the time to post such a lengthy reply. I just wish people could see the positive results we get. Its human nature to see the negative side of things. It must be frustrating to have had your car attacked several times, its happened to me and p"""ed me right off. Im sure a lot of crimes in your area are solved, but ultimately yours hasn't been and thats all that matters. Hopefully they wont be back!!

Some b-----d slashed all four tyres on my daughers car on New Years Eve night. We at first thought that they had just let out the air, so called out breakdown service (£67 because it was a Bank Holiday), and of course they couldnt do anything to help as it needed 4 new tyres.
She has had the tyres fitted today - almost £200. Yes, the car is insured, but she has a £250 excess to pay, so it has had to come out of her own pocket.
She is a nurse, and needs the car to get to work. Hope they rot in hell!

If a perv gets away with exposing himself for some time he will move it to the next level i would think,disgusting the police don't seem interested in this.My wife saw a young guy masturbating while watching young girls at heeley city farm last year and they did come round take a statement and did a police sketch over phone ??

theres been a flasher problem in that area for years ,my mum lives on the beckton just up from crystal peaks , shes a pensioner and has been flashed at a few times . as for the police i must say they have been to see her every time and took statements . i think it must be areas with big shopping centers which act like a magnet to these wierdo's . it cant be just one person because its been going on too long .

My girlfriends car was broken into for the second time in a month, firt outside her house in foxhill, then again on new years eve/day outside the forge block of flats on the bottom of london road.

They tried to get it started both times but failed becauses of the immobiliser! Luckily its a cheap fix, well it is as they have done the same both times (£20 a time), but its annoying!

Going to get her one of those all round steering locks tomrrow, hopefully put them off even bothering.......