You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

judging By the title of this post i would have to say that bus drivers arnt the sharpest pins!

i've only seen a couple of your posts, but they seem to be very angry! do u have issues? i'm sure there are people you can talk to about it!

you obviously fail to see why a lot of people on the road dislike people in your profession! it also appears that you risk the health of other road used and your passengers by pulling out into the road potentially causing an accident!

nice guy!

i've only seen a couple of your posts, but they seem to be very angry! do u have issues? i'm sure there are people you can talk to about it!

you obviously fail to see why a lot of people on the road dislike people in your profession! it also appears that you risk the health of other road used and your passengers by pulling out into the road potentially causing an accident!

nice guy!

Go on then tell him why cars dont want buses in front of them!

i've only seen a couple of your posts, but they seem to be very angry! do u have issues? i'm sure there are people you can talk to about it!

you obviously fail to see why a lot of people on the road dislike people in your profession! it also appears that you risk the health of other road used and your passengers by pulling out into the road potentially causing an accident!

nice guy!

Now the hook has been taken its time to reel it in,,,fishing anyone?.

thing is i dont think the guys "fishing". He genuinely means what he asked in his post. in answer to the question i would say that he probaly only notices the people that dont let him out because it angers him, and therefore it sticks in his mind. there are probably a proportionate amount of people that let bus drivers out.

I often let buses out if it's convenient to do so and get a wave or a hazard flash as thanks.

to be honest i see where halibuts coming from, the bloke doesnt seem capable of constructing a legitimate argument or point! by stating at the the end of his post that he pulls out and is then offensive to road users only serves to make him look arrogant and ignorant!

Indeed - pulling out causing other drivers to brake, then giving them two fingers is by definition, tosser - ish behaviour.

back on track.
I dont let busses out as i dont want to be stuck behind a poorly maintained, black smoke belshing bus that is going to force me to stop again in another 400 yards.

Thanks.

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Oh cheers. :( I often let buses out if it's safe to do so, just as I will with anyone on the road.

in sheffield or in general

In answer to your question... what makes you think those car drivers let other car drivers out??

I will allow a bus to pull out in front of me, if it's a safe situation to do so (ie. I'm not already too close to slow down, stop and let them out) just as I will other cars.

It's bus drivers like you that really get me riled up and give bus drivers a bad name. Too many bus drivers think it's their right of way to pull out regardless of whether it's safe or not and I've seen numerous accidents narrowly avoided when a bus has just pulled out.

I'm not sure the company you drive for would be very impressed if they found out that you risk the lives of other road users and then add an offensive gesture to top it off.

I have to say its one of those rare occassions I agree with halibut... the guy sounds a complete pillock.

It's a good job I didn't see the post about moving off sharply to cause passengers to fall over and it's a damned good job I don't know who this guy is because he'd be reported faster than you can say 'one fare please'.

He does say nice things about certain members of society..... generally the ones that make everyone else sick.

Anyway back on topic...... So why don't you peeps let us out?

Note dan2802's response. And mine - we do.

Usually the ones that could, and don't - don't for one of two reasons, either:
1. You drive slowly and stink and nobody wants to be stuck behind you. Or,
2. They are ignorant drivers and are the same with drivers of any vehicle.

You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Here is a suggestion, do like most pedestrians an wait until its clear and then pull out, buses are not the only thing on the road that has to wait until its clear to cross/pull out.

Anyway back on topic...... So why don't you peeps let us out?

Probably because those bus drivers who are as deeply unpleasant and unprofessional as you give all bus drivers a bad name and actively discourage co-operation.

Anyway back on topic...... So why don't you peeps let us out?
Looks like someone has let you out - or have you escaped and not been recaptured yet.

You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

this sounds great from your self just pulling out:loopy: wot about your paying passangers!!! or wot if the car does not stop in time!! i think you need to go back to training school with your bus pal

You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Because bus drivers just pull out. They don't use "mirror, signal, manoeuvre". They just use "manoeuvre, signal", in that order.

A prime example of bus driver stupidity happened to me last week, when a bus was pulled over at a stop, while passengers got on and with its left indicator on. As a result, I moved to overtake the parked bus, signalling right and I started to pass. Suddenly, the bus sets off and swaps its indicator to right, while I'm in the middle of over taking it! This was made even more dangerous by the fact that we were approaching a central bollard. Luckily my car is much faster than a bus.

Anyway what's he moaning about, they have their own bus lanes, traffic lights are being phased to give buses priority, look at Burngreave Road and the University, he wants everything doesn't he? :)

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You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Why do people fall for this every time ? Can you drive under a rickety rackety bridge then ?

Actuallly not every car driver is a B*stard, I dont think i haven't let a bus out from a bus stop when it has been feasibly possible to do so, i.e slow moving traffic or where it is safe for me to do so without causing disruption to the flow of traffic, if its not safe or would disrupt the flow of traffic then you wait just like the rest of them. That goes for cars as well.. there have been numerous occassions when a car has been pulling from a side street to go right (crossing traffic to join) these people i leave in the middle of the road as they have put themselves in a dangerous position on the road and for me to brake would cause undue braking and an unsafe enviroment for the traffic at the back of me (if stopped I asses the situation i.e whats comming the other way if clear they get the flash if not they staywhere they are) same goes for all traffic not just busses....

A bus has once pulled out in front of me and caused a nasty scratch and a £1000 quids worth of damage to the car i was driving sorry mate your fault i had right of way as you were crossing into the path of a moving veichle

I think the major factor why people don't let busses out is the one already mentioned about the being stuck behind one that's going to be stopping every 200 yards. Not that it's right but it is annoying.

If it's not that, I'd hazard a guess that it's the 'I'm bigger attitude' that makes car drivers feel less inclined to do bus driver a favour. It isn't unknown for a bus to indicate at the exact moment of pulling out only which comes across as a 'you will let me in' rather than 'please let me in'. It kind of rubs people up the wrong way and makes them more likely to do anything they can do to avoid letting the bus in. That said, the same usually happens with car driver who try to push from one lane to another without waiting to be let in...

i have 1 question,when do bus drivers let anyone else pull out? answer never because they think just cause there bigger than everyone else they think they own the road!!!!
bus drivers are the most inconsiderate of all road users.you want courtesy try giving some to other road users.

Blimey, I thought that bus drivers WERE considerate and polite to people who 'let them out'. As a sort of professional driver(OK a rep doing 30000 k a year) I would say that 9.5 times out of 10 I let bus drivers out - the 0.5 being if it's just not practical or considerate to other drivers to do so. In a long boring day on the road, a bit of consideration(and subsequent acknowledgement) makes the journey a bit brighter
Being a woodseats bird who has no alternative than to use The Dale to cut on to Chesterfield road(cos I live on the Dale) bus drivers in both directions 95% of the time let me out.

I indicate and if the first 3 cars have not let me out, then i start to edge out. End of the day you are driving without due care and attention.

To be fair there is nothing in the highway code that says you should have to let anyone out. A bus driver caused me to fail my first driving test by pulling out in front of me who I then had to let out but I got told I shouldn't have let him....passed my test a day later.

When I last read the highway code (admittedly a long time ago), as soon as a bus put on it's indicator to pull out of the bus stop, the vehicle behind automatically had to give way.

Edit: Just found this rule:

198. Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops.

I know it's so petty but I tend to use these opportunities as a bit of give and take for all the times the bus drivers pull out of a junction on amber with the lights going to red as though they're driving a small car, then block the lane because they can't get right around due to the traffic backing up.

Why do idiotic bus drivers stop at a bustop 10 yards from traffic lights and then when you finally get round them you find out that they are sat there counting thier change ??

Makes me so angry!!!!

You know, since this is a bus driver talking about why drivers won't let buses out, well, I got one for you.

Hey, I don't mean all bus drivers are this but most of you are a bunch of tossers that got some warped attitude, or think you are secruity guards, who have go ahead to make life a misery for passengers.

No, I ain't a driver, I'm a passenger. Well, was until I got sick and tired of bus drivers acting as if they're God.

You bus drivers, wait outside bus stop, for 3 minutes, TRAFFIC LIGHT IS RED, you'r at the side of the bus stop, you ain't even moved from bus stop and YET, you didn't let me on.

So personally, and I am being straight here - bus drivers got one bad reputation. And I been in different cities but here, man, I seen bad attitide drivers who think they got license to just act clever.

8 times you bus drivers did that to me. 8 damn times. And I put a complaint in and jack happened.

Jack happened because they could be sacked for letting you on whilst waiting at the lights.
Why not get to the bus stop on time?

Maybe it has to do that most bus drivers are dead ignorant to most other vehicles on the road, some bus drivers are ok but 95% are just complete ignorant drivers.

I don't understand it either because if you cause an accident you lose your annual bonus too don't you? them shiny black shoes or something?

Don't you drive home in a car after you park the bus up or do you have another "personal" bus in the bus drivers car park?

sorry, wheres the OP here. he's gone quiet!

judging By the title of this post i would have to say that bus drivers arnt the sharpest pins!

That may be so in a few cases some of us are rather intelligent with degrees etc so please don't go making sweeping generalisations.

That may be so in a few cases some of us are rather intelligent with degrees etc so please don't go making sweeping generalisations.

Sorry!!
so how come your a Bus driver then? Arnt they poorly paid?

Sorry!!
so how come your a Bus driver then? Arnt they poorly paid?

I think it depends on which company you work for and how long one has worked for them.

sorry, wheres the OP here. he's gone quiet!

Of course he has. This is what he does - starts a spurious thread and sits back and laughs. Why do people respond time after time? Bus driver?????

i doubt he's laughing, he more likely to be avoiding the forum because he's made his self look an idiot.

I often let buses out if it's convenient to do so and get a wave or a hazard flash as thanks.

So do I, so don't tar us all with the same brush.

dont think most of these bus drivers know how to drive!!!! they seem to have a little lane to pull in to for the bus stop!! but no they just stop in the middle of the road instead,

SO i think hes started sumthing this bus driver in his post DONT LET ANY BUSSES OUT ALL CAR DRIVERS!!!:hihi::hihi:

Can any of you point to any specific examples where bus drivers have been rude to motorists?

No thought not.

I think that makes it a full circle to your first post:hihi:


Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Can any of you point to any specific examples where bus drivers have been rude to motorists?

No thought not.

do you mean apart from your own admission of being rude to motorists??

I think on the whole, people seem to have a negative view of bus drivers because a lot of people experience "bullying" on the roads by bus drivers. There does seem to be a "im bigger than you, so im pulling out" mentality. However im sure not all bus drivers have this attitude. If all bus drivers had the same attitude as you then public travel and safety would surely be doomed!

[QUOTE=troubledjoe;2972032]do you mean apart from your own admission of being rude to motorists??

QUOTE]






which example?

Eh do you actually read these replies? can you even remember your initial post? before you come on here attempting to look like you have an argument, please please please get it right in your head what your going to comment on!

personaly I stay as far away from busses as possible, if its safe for me to let them out without some myopic driving into the back of my bike, I do, but then keep well back to avoid the fumes and leaking diesel spilling all over the place. (especialy around chesterfield) :rant:
A bit of give and take is whats required on the roads, what goes around tends to come around!

all these posts ,and hardly any mentioning that a full bus of some seventy people going to work or home may be just a little bit more important than a car with one or two people in it that can overtake a lumbering bus further up the road.....shame on you.:)

You can't have it all ways, you complain that we pull off without warning causing you to brake sharply......... yet when we wait, hopeing to be let out, no one will let us out.


What are we supposed to do?

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.



Good on yer Mr BusDriver - I get sick of being late for work cause of the amount of cars on the road not letting the bus pull out and then the said cars driving in the designated bus lane :rant:

good for you for appaluding a man that basically admits to traffic offences and to being ignorant, arrogant and rude, and potentially taking your lives in his hands. of course if he crashed you'd be the first to make a claim!

Can any of you point to any specific examples where bus drivers have been rude to motorists?

No thought not.

yes i can a bus cut me up in near town , ive reported the driver thanks!!! also a driver stuck two rods up (maybe it was you)

i was also on A BUS (number 14) when a bus driver shouted f off you twxt , while he had alot of passangers on his bus . once again i and many others reported it

good for you for appaluding a man that basically admits to traffic offences and to being ignorant, arrogant and rude, and potentially taking your lives in his hands. of course if he crashed you'd be the first to make a claim!

yes "good on him" for forcing his way into traffic - again I state I (and I'm sure the other 29 odd people on my bus) get sick of sitting in traffic behind 30 cars with one person in them, all going to the same place :rant:

and don't give me that old baloney "I need my car for work" - my husband "needs" his truck for work, it carries his work in it - the rest of you "want" a car to "get to work".

as for the ignorant, arrogant and rude bit - a bus driver is no better/worse than some other drivers on the road - I do see this perspective when I am a passenger in my husbands truck

I can't understand the old "attack the bus driver" mentality no matter how long he/she has been driving/who they are/what route they cover

yes some bus drivers do have a bit of a problem but so would you if you had hassle from passengers and other road users on a daily basis

I say as always "give it a try for 6 months and let us all know if you still hate bus drivers then" :hihi:

when a bus driver shouted f off you twxt ,







Yes, extensive time is given in staff training with regards to communication skills. However in this case, the skills learned haven't been used in the best way?

The Giraffe...

You'd be a heck of a lot later if he caused a severe traffic accident through his ignorance and you were seriously injured or had to wait around to give a witness statement.

As for your comment regarding 'baloney' excuses for needing a car, and 'give it a try for six months'.
I have a car because I am disabled but determined to live as much an ordinary life as possible. After years of attempting to use public transport with very little success I now feel relieved to have my car.
Take the times I have arrived at the bus stop to go to college at the normal time and the bus has already arrived. On crutches, I have rushed as fast as possible only for the bus driver to drive off anyway without letting me on...
or the time I was refused entry onto the bus because I only had a £10 note...
or the time that I was stranded after pressing the button for my stop, manouevering my wheelchair down the bus and the bus driver took off from my stop before I could get off.

So yes - I drive a car... GET OVER IT.

I just generally Do not like public transport :rolleyes: and choose to drive a car....
I do, however, let bus drivers out on occasion ...Can I have a brownie point ? :D

We don't let bus drivers out because we know one of them is you! :hihi:

to be honest, if the traffic allows me to let them out i do, but after reading this thread its safe to say i'll have to consider it harder!!

Buses should be bannned ,they take half the road even when they are not on it, and when they are they cause blockages.give us back the roads weve paid heavily for!!

Buses should be bannned ,they take half the road even when they are not on it, and when they are they cause blockages.give us back the roads weve paid heavily for!!

72 passengers on a bus = (up to) 72 cars (or white vans) off the road. Surely buses are worth it for that?

treat others as you want to be tret. If you are offencive expet it beck. If you are courtious you will be pleasantly supprised. But if you think you are in a better position than some one at work doing their job, well done for been ignorent. You be spat at, swore at and abused on a daily basis and see how you take it.

Pay is no reward for it so yes if some one lets a bus out, sleep tight. those who race to over take at inapropriate times enjoy hospital food. But honestly, your the best driver on the road.

-----my computer is being weird sorry-----

The Giraffe...

You'd be a heck of a lot later if he caused a severe traffic accident through his ignorance and you were seriously injured or had to wait around to give a witness statement.

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YOu'd be waiting longer if the Policeman told the driver to write the statement down.......

YOu'd be waiting longer if the Policeman told the driver to write the statement down.......

I THINK YOUR ON THE WIND UP on this thread m8:hihi:

no, he's just a fool.

MKII same thing happened to me on my way shopping with my wife
and kids outside the shops at longley (NEAR TESCO,S) the bus driver pulled in to let some one off so i indicated to go round him
pulled out got level with middle of the bus the pillock pulled out and hit me on the passenger door.now trying to be polite i asked him for his detail,s all he did was hurl abuse at me.

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

Satisfies all the elements of Careless and Inconsiderate driving....a professional driver ?? :loopy:

I have to say its one of those rare occassions I agree with halibut... the guy sounds a complete pillock.

It's a good job I didn't see the post about moving off sharply to cause passengers to fall over and it's a damned good job I don't know who this guy is because he'd be reported faster than you can say 'one fare please'.

My Aunt was on a bus a few weeks ago. she is 75 years old. She was sat on the side seat's. The bus pulled off sharply and my Aunt ended up on the floor. The bus driver did help her up but if had been driving the bus correctly in the first place, this would not have happened.She sustained bruising to her face and legs. Its a good job i was not on that bus with her, because the story would not go so.It would have also cost the bus company. But like most 75 year olds they dont like to complain :rant:

The Giraffe...


So yes - I drive a car... GET OVER IT.



get over yourself babe ;)

quote "Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake"

How old are you? and they say the youth of today are foul mouthed and bad tempered???

Indeed - pulling out causing other drivers to brake, then giving them two fingers is by definition, tosser - ish behaviour.

as practiced by virtually every other roaduser, be it vanman, trucker, cyclist, mondeoman or who ever,

seems to me civility on the road is a thing of the past.:suspect:

[QUOTE] But like most 75 year olds they dont like to complain

since when, every o.a.p i know are very adept at complaining

Personally I just pull out into the road, and sometimes stick 2 fingers up out of the window, to the driver forced to brake.

I think you have answered your own question there matey.

Satisfies all the elements of Careless and Inconsiderate driving....a professional driver ?? :loopy:

and section 5 public order act! i'd love to see him when im working!

who wants to be stuck doing 20-25mph with a load of black smoke in your face, if i had the choice i wouldn't and yes i can name numerous occasions when buses have pulled out without looking almost forcing me into oncoming traffic, i know there are many pleasant polite bus drivers but i see your working hard to alter peoples poor perceptions of them you absolute tw*t

who wants to be stuck doing 20-25mph with a load of black smoke in your face, if i had the choice i wouldn't and yes i can name numerous occasions when buses have pulled out without looking almost forcing me into oncoming traffic, i know there are many pleasant polite bus drivers but i see your working hard to alter peoples poor perceptions of them you absolute tw*t




I'm not a twit

Is twot a word ?

I think on the whole, people seem to have a negative view of bus drivers because a lot of people experience "bullying" on the roads by bus drivers. There does seem to be a "im bigger than you, so im pulling out" mentality.

The same mentality that car drivers exhibit as soon as they get a large 4x4 ?

Originally Posted by troubledjoe
I think on the whole, people seem to have a negative view of bus drivers because a lot of people experience "bullying" on the roads by bus drivers. There does seem to be a "im bigger than you, so im pulling out" mentality.



The same mentallity is often found when in the male showers

Anyone else think the OP isn't actually a bus driver and is just on the wind up? :)

Anyone else think the OP isn't actually a bus driver and is just on the wind up? :)



:hihi::hihi:

Don;t tell anyone, no ones kind of asked the question why I can access a PC so many times in a day whilst driving a bus.

These studenty types are so gullible.

Mobile internet is so convenient isn't it. ;)