my wife is on her 4th trip of the day to crystal peaks , everytime she comes back she's forgot something or bought the wrong thing.
she wont relax and chill out . her mother never stops phoneing about her dads present or the dogs farted or whatever she can think of to spend an hour talking nonsence about , we are only a small family i dont know how people with bigger families go on trying to sort this one day of the year out. we have enough food to keep half the vermin on the tip on boxing day happy for a month ,cos most of it gets wasted and chucked. is anyone else as sick of it as me?

Sounds like ya stressed pal . Thank god my OH did her crimbo shopping in september ! So all is carm in my house :hihi: thats untill the little devil comes home from her nan's lata and wrecks the place .

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that if you actually got involved in helping with some the Christmas shopping - instead of disappearing off to the pub - then your wife might not be quite so stressed and running round like the proverbial blue bottomed fly?

It never ceases to amaze me that some men happily leave all the shopping and organising to their wives, and then have the cheek to moan about them! Their sole contribution is to casually enquire, "What have we bought for my mum/dad/cousin George?", or something similar.

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that if you actually got involved in helping with some the Christmas shopping - instead of disappearing off to the pub - then your wife might not be quite so stressed and running round like the proverbial blue bottomed fly?

It never ceases to amaze me that some men happily leave all the shopping and organising to their wives, and then have the cheek to moan about them! Their sole contribution is to casually enquire, "What have we bought for my mum/dad/cousin George?", or something similar.
Do I detect a hint of acrimony ?

Ninety per cent of men think that Christmas just happens, that they get up on Christmas morning and Santa has been and that the elves have done all the shopping and prepared the dinner, for them to sit down to at allotted time.

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that if you actually got involved in helping with some the Christmas shopping - instead of disappearing off to the pub - then your wife might not be quite so stressed and running round like the proverbial blue bottomed fly?

It never ceases to amaze me that some men happily leave all the shopping and organising to their wives, and then have the cheek to moan about them! Their sole contribution is to casually enquire, "What have we bought for my mum/dad/cousin George?", or something similar.

That's funny, because I help my wife with the Xmas shopping, for pressies AND food and yet we still end up with a food mountain, despite my protestations. And yes, she invariably ends up getting stressed even though I try to be emotionally supportive etc. In other words, I do my best to help, and she still gets stressed!!!!! I think your post is a little harsh to be honest, some people do get carried away and put themselves in a stressful position, where Xmas is concerned. :rolleyes:

My wife !! (the first ONE !) used to ALWAYS be going out !!

AND when I FOUND OUT WHY !!! (I DID satisfy her !) She AIN'T my wife ANYMORE !!

:((

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Do I detect a hint of acrimony ?

Not personal acrimony, certainly, but from my observations, quite a lot of women do feel a certain resentment towards their less-than-helpful other half at this time of year!

I generally do all the food (and wine) shopping, but my wife decided to go to Morrisons with my son last night.
Muggins still had to put all the shopping away of course, anyone got a spare freezer?
She spent a fortune now we have all the same stuff I bought on Wednesday, so with all the BOGOFs we have 4 of everything.
Wimim eh!

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That's funny, because I help my wife with the Xmas shopping, for pressies AND food and yet we still end up with a food mountain, despite my protestations. And yes, she invariably ends up getting stressed even though I try to be emotionally supportive etc. In other words, I do my best to help, and she still gets stressed!!!!! I think your post is a little harsh to be honest, some people do get carried away and put themselves in a stressful position, where Xmas is concerned. :rolleyes:

You will note that I was careful to qualify my description of men with the word "some"! I am by no means accusing all men of being unhelpful at Christmas, just quite a lot of them.

My wife !! (the first ONE !) used to ALWAYS be going out !!

AND when I FOUND OUT WHY !!! (I DID satisfy her !) She AIN'T my wife ANYMORE !!

:((

That sounds like me a few years back - except my now ex husband didn't find out why and didn't satisfy me. :hihi:

That was a wonderful time.

I generally do all the food (and wine) shopping, but my wife decided to go to Morrisons with my son last night.
Muggins still had to put all the shopping away of course, anyone got a spare freezer?
She spent a fortune now we have all the same stuff I bought on Wednesday, so with all the BOGOFs we have 4 of everything.
Wimim eh! My bold

Well, as long as you haven't got 4 wives, I should stop moaning and be grateful :hihi:

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You will note that I was careful to qualify my description of men with the word "some"! I am by no means accusing all men of being unhelpful at Christmas, just quite a lot of them.

Fair enough. Have a brilliant Christmas!!! :):love::cool:

everyone seems to be stressed out. Went to Tesco earlier for the last few bit's and people were fighting, over parking spaces,meat,veg... this was 10a.m this morning. There were tonnes of people just ramming trollys into each other and scowling.. glad it's all done this end.. just hope the flu's gone for christmas day :(

With my good lady wife it is a totally illogical thing.

Over the last couple of weeks she has:

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days (she's currently on holiday)

I'm sure there are others I've not thought of.

To top it all she has arranged now:

To go to her Aunts Xmas eve night
Her Mum/Dads Xmas Day
My families Boxing Day
Her Mum/Dads New Years eve

Meanwhile I've continued working and now I'm getting the "I'm stressed cos I've got too much to do and you've done nothing" argument.

Surely a little bit more emphasis on priority would negate some of the stress, I daren't tell her that though!

With my good lady wife it is a totally illogical thing.

Over the last couple of weeks she has:

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days (she's currently on holiday)

I'm sure there are others I've not thought of.

To top it all she has arranged now:

To go to her Aunts Xmas eve night
Her Mum/Dads Xmas Day
My families Boxing Day
Her Mum/Dads New Years eve

Meanwhile I've continued working and now I'm getting the "I'm stressed cos I've got too much to do and you've done nothing" argument.

Surely a little bit more emphasis on priority would negate some of the stress, I daren't tell her that though! My bold

OK, so how would you prioritise things? Not take the children to shows - not bother to attend their nativity plays - not give people presents - not have fun with friends - not arrange to see family and friends at Christmas?

Or just not do any of the things that make Christmas a celebration for most people?

And the fact that you've carried on working hardly excuses you from making a bit of effort yourself. There are plenty of women who manage to work full-time and still run a home and family - yet their husbands/partners seem to think that just going out to work excuses them from ever doing owt else.

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that if you actually got involved in helping with some the Christmas shopping - instead of disappearing off to the pub - then your wife might not be quite so stressed and running round like the proverbial blue bottomed fly?

It never ceases to amaze me that some men happily leave all the shopping and organising to their wives, and then have the cheek to moan about them! Their sole contribution is to casually enquire, "What have we bought for my mum/dad/cousin George?", or something similar.

Totally agree with you!

My bold

OK, so how would you prioritise things? Not take the children to shows - not bother to attend their nativity plays - not give people presents - not have fun with friends - not arrange to see family and friends at Christmas?

Or just not do any of the things that make Christmas a celebration for most people?

And the fact that you've carried on working hardly excuses you from making a bit of effort yourself. There are plenty of women who manage to work full-time and still run a home and family - yet their husbands/partners seem to think that just going out to work excuses them from ever doing owt else.

OK, surely the decision is down to personal choice.

To be objective I'll reverse it round and assume she worked full time and I was off on leave, I would have:

One trip to theatre for the kids
Both nativity plays
Co-ordinated a handover of presents for all the family
Met the friends
One works Christmas do
Arranged one trip over the holiday to both families
Not bothered with Carol service or Scout trips (personal preference)

I think this would be a reasonable Christmas and it may have alleviated some of the stress now being felt.

But as I said it is personal choice and hopefully we will enjoy the rest of it!

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Not personal acrimony, certainly, but from my observations, quite a lot of women do feel a certain resentment towards their less-than-helpful other half at this time of year!

Dozy I totally agree with you!!!!!
I got all the pressys out last Saturday to wrap and my OH was ohhh you have been busy, the only bit of input he has is holding the wraping paper while I sellotape it.
He is in medowhall as we speak choosing my prezzy, I made him take our Daughter, to keep an eye on what he is buying :hihi:
I have bought all his side of the family too (we are a large family), without his input.

He has no stress what so ever, and it really peeveeesssss me off!

Are all men the same I wonder? :huh:

OK, surely the decision is down to personal choice.

To be objective I'll reverse it round and assume she worked full time and I was off on leave, I would have:

One trip to theatre for the kids
Both nativity plays
Co-ordinated a handover of presents for all the family
Met the friends
One works Christmas do
Arranged one trip over the holiday to both families
Not bothered with Carol service or Scout trips (personal preference)

I think this would be a reasonable Christmas and it may have alleviated some of the stress now being felt.

But as I said it is personal choice and hopefully we will enjoy the rest of it!

If only it were that simple has it occurred to you that your wife might not really want to do this but feels pressurised by kids, work mates, family and does not want to let anyone down:rant:

If only it were that simple has it occurred to you that your wife might not really want to do this but feels pressurised by kids, work mates, family and does not want to let anyone down:rant:

Fair point and I think you've hit the nail on the head in that people are pressurised into behaving in a totally different manner to what they are used to.

Still comes down to the choice of the individual, you either go along with it or you don't, either way you will get hassle caused by time constraints or family/peer pressure!

I would say no to some of this pressure but others can't or won't.

With my good lady wife it is a totally illogical thing.

Over the last couple of weeks she has:

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days (she's currently on holiday)

I'm sure there are others I've not thought of.

To top it all she has arranged now:

To go to her Aunts Xmas eve night
Her Mum/Dads Xmas Day
My families Boxing Day
Her Mum/Dads New Years eve

Meanwhile I've continued working and now I'm getting the "I'm stressed cos I've got too much to do and you've done nothing" argument.

Surely a little bit more emphasis on priority would negate some of the stress, I daren't tell her that though!

Has she wrote any Christmas songs?
No? Why not?

Here is an idea for the lyrics.. make your own tune though, I can't do everything; I am only a man
Words by Whatifwewin

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days

Here is an idea for the lyrics.. make your own tune though, I can't do everything; I am only a man
Words by Whatifwewin

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days

Chorus :
Well, I wish it could be Christmas every day...


If this doesn't quite fit with the tune, I'm sure a better refrain will suggest itself.

just got an update , daughters bringing grandson to stay overnight ,mind you i love him staying with us . anyway pal just phoned meeting in norton meadowhead in one hour anyone wants to come if you can pick me out ill buy you a drink .

I don't suppose it's occurred to you that if you actually got involved in helping with some the Christmas shopping - instead of disappearing off to the pub - then your wife might not be quite so stressed and running round like the proverbial blue bottomed fly?

It never ceases to amaze me that some men happily leave all the shopping and organising to their wives, and then have the cheek to moan about them! Their sole contribution is to casually enquire, "What have we bought for my mum/dad/cousin George?", or something similar.

update... got blind drunk came home snored like pig all night keeping her awake , just got up cup of tea then witherspoons woodseats i can see a pattern developing..love iiiiiittt :P:P:P:P

Has she wrote any Christmas songs?
No? Why not?

Here is an idea for the lyrics.. make your own tune though, I can't do everything; I am only a man
Words by Whatifwewin

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days

I had thought of doing it to the tune of the twelve days of Christmas but I daren't!

On the first day of Christmas my true love went to see:hihi:

Ninety per cent of men think that Christmas just happens, that they get up on Christmas morning and Santa has been and that the elves have done all the shopping and prepared the dinner, for them to sit down to at allotted time.

Good to know my OH is in the 10% then, he's done the lot and will be cooking the dinner as well.:love:

Good to know my OH is in the 10% then, he's done the lot and will be cooking the dinner as well.:love:

tell to get his arse down the pub with us :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

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You will note that I was careful to qualify my description of men with the word "some"! I am by no means accusing all men of being unhelpful at Christmas, just quite a lot of them.

YAY! I fell lucky and got one of those men!!!!
He`s excellent at shopping (food and pressies), which is good, because I hate it! He never comes back stressed. If I go on a shopping trip with him, I tend to mess about so he dosn`t want me to go again.:hihi:
Hats off to all you good uns out there, and merry christmas shoppers!!!:D

tell to get his arse down the pub with us :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

I would, but he's just gone for the last bit of shopping:hihi:

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YAY! I fell lucky and got one of those men!!!!
He`s excellent at shopping (food and pressies), which is good, because I hate it! He never comes back stressed. If I go on a shopping trip with him, I tend to mess about so he dosn`t want me to go again.:hihi:
Hats off to all you good uns out there, and merry christmas shoppers!!!:D

You are breaking the code by revealing the method behind being banned from shopping:o

I would, but he's just gone for the last bit of shopping:hihi:

you get yer ass down the pub then :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

you get yer ass down the pub then :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

Have to wait in for my crissy prezzy, he ordered it on line so delivery is today. Maybe later tho......:lol:

Ninety per cent of men think that Christmas just happens, that they get up on Christmas morning and Santa has been and that the elves have done all the shopping and prepared the dinner, for them to sit down to at allotted time.

I quite agree. My husband does absolutley nothing towards christmas, his part is cutting the turkey. What anoys me the most though, is when he says 'did we send aunty wahtshermane a card and did we get a present for uncle somebody?

I quite agree. My husband does absolutley nothing towards christmas, his part is cutting the turkey. What anoys me the most though, is when he says 'did we send aunty wahtshermane a card and did we get a present for uncle somebody?

well.... have you ?.

well.... have you ?.

Of course.

With my good lady wife it is a totally illogical thing.

Over the last couple of weeks she has:

Taken the kids to 3 shows: Crucible, Lyceum and Leeds Playhouse
Met her family to deliver presents on at least three occassions
Met her friends for the same reason
Been to two works Christmas dos
Taken the kids to scout camps
Been to two nativity plays
Been to a carol service
Gone into work for 2.5 days (she's currently on holiday)

I'm sure there are others I've not thought of.

To top it all she has arranged now:

To go to her Aunts Xmas eve night
Her Mum/Dads Xmas Day
My families Boxing Day
Her Mum/Dads New Years eve

Meanwhile I've continued working and now I'm getting the "I'm stressed cos I've got too much to do and you've done nothing" argument.

Surely a little bit more emphasis on priority would negate some of the stress, I daren't tell her that though!

I'M NOT BLOODY STRESSED :rant:

Oh, and it was only one works Christmas do. :D

It's lovely to hear my arguments coming back at the old Scrooge!