I got knocked off my bike on the way home today by some idiot who didn't even bother to stop despite my bike and me being spawled out in the middle of the road. Luckily I'm just a bit bruised and dirty. My bike needs some new bits, but that's not too important.
I'd like to say a big Thank You to the several witnesses and passers by who checked I was OK. It's nice to know that people are so nice. Big thanks especially to the fellow cyclist who pedalled off after another witness to get their reg plate!
I wish them all a happier-than-normal Christmas!
And I wish the fool who knocked me down receives a copy of the Highway Code for Christmas, in addition to the call they're getting from the Police tomorrow!

Glad your ok.
Well done those people.

glad you're ok dude. If you need a hand re-building the bike give us a shout, Nick.

Glad you're okay, hope you got the details of the hit and runner.

Really hope you manage to track down the culprit. Disgraceful that they drove off. I think some drivers forget that cyclists are valid human beings too. Glad there's no lasting damage to you, but don't see why you should be left with a bill for repairing your bike:rant:
At least the bad behaviour of one person exposed the kindness of several others.

Cheers guys. Yep, got the make, model and number plate of the car. Gave a statement to the Police and they'll be speaking to the owner tomorrow. I feel surprisingly un-upset by it which seems odd. I dare say the scratch my handlebars made down their passenger door will cost more to fix than any repairs to my bike.

Cheers guys. Yep, got the make, model and number plate of the car. Gave a statement to the Police and they'll be speaking to the owner tomorrow. I feel surprisingly un-upset by it which seems odd. I dare say the scratch my handlebars made down their passenger door will cost more to fix than any repairs to my bike.

Its no more than they deserve.
Glad you ok about it all and lets hope the boys in blue throw the book at them.

I got knocked off my bike on the way home today by some idiot who didn't even bother to stop despite my bike and me being spawled out in the middle of the road. Luckily I'm just a bit bruised and dirty. My bike needs some new bits, but that's not too important.
I'd like to say a big Thank You to the several witnesses and passers by who checked I was OK. It's nice to know that people are so nice. Big thanks especially to the fellow cyclist who pedalled off after another witness to get their reg plate!
I wish them all a happier-than-normal Christmas!
And I wish the fool who knocked me down receives a copy of the Highway Code for Christmas, in addition to the call they're getting from the Police tomorrow!

Pleased to hear you're OK.

Now shall we have a sweepstake to see how long it takes before this thread becomes a cyclist bashing thread?:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Its no more than they deserve.
Glad you ok about it all and lets hope the boys in blue throw the book at them.

Doubtful, HP will probably get a record for criminal damage and a 10year stretch. Remember, there are people out there with a heart but the british justice system will always be on the side of the defendant. Glad your ok Phil, hopefully he's the guy on charter row / ecclesall road roundabout right now facing the wrong way with an ambulance beside his car :hihi:

Pleased to hear you're OK.

Now shall we have a sweepstake to see how long it takes before this thread becomes a cyclist bashing thread?:hihi::hihi::hihi:

People tried and got deleted :o

Hope you are ok - Whereabouts did it happen?

People tried and got deleted :o


Incredible!

Glad to hear that you're ok and that you got the reg plate.

I'd be interested to hear what response you get from the police. I've been knocked of my bike a number of times in Sheffield and the police have always been fairly useless, but with a hit and run they should take it more seriously as the driver doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Incredible!
yep, so much for a 'free & open forum'.
on here, your are only allowed to state what the mods agree with.
lets see how long this post lasts!!!

yep, so much for a 'free & open forum'.
on here, your are only allowed to state what the mods agree with.
lets see how long this post lasts!!!

Wrong - The OP was knocked off his bike and is luckily not too worse off.

What we don't like or allow is people to have a go at or mock people in this and similar situations.

Re - A free and open forum, it is. It is also privately owned and therefore has a number of rule that we ask that you adhere to.

There is a contact us facility to your left if you have issues with this.

Back on topic - Thanks

Don't mention it. Glad you're doing ok. Was thinking you were too shaken up or just rude to thank me in person, but luckily I stumbled upon this. What were the chances? Get well soon.

Hit and runners are so cowardly. How can people leave someone injured behind them like that? Thankfully, the rest of the OP shows the good that people can do too. I hope you're not too badly hurt, it could have been an awful way to ruin your christmas. Are you going to keep us updated about what the plods do?

Thanks to MkII again. Hope I didn't appear rude! Was just a bit shaken up. That's the first time I've come off that bike in any circumstances and to see it lying in the middle of a busy road with a double-decker bus the next vehicle behind shook me up a bit.
Almost unbelievably, the only damage to me or my bike seems to be some dirt/scatches on my handlebar endbars, muck on my hi-vis vest and trousers, bent chain links and (I'll need to check in daylight to be sure) I think the rear derailleur and/or cable to it may be knackered. I was most concerned about my laptop I carry on board - but that seems OK!
I'd put money on nothing coming from the police enquiries other than a leaflet in a couple of weeks, but I guess it's important to get it reported. And with any luck, the call he'll make to the owner tomorrow might give them cause to drive a little more sensibly.

Glad your ok (apart from the bike).

Its amazing how people treat cyclists, I Have never been one on the roads but i have seen a few close calls... some people do trap bikes into the pavement so they cant get by and just plain do not see them or in most of what i have seen is that they will try and aim for them....

I really do hope this guy gets whats comming to him to be fair as it gives a bad name to all drivers as its the few that dictates the whole...

as for the company laptop and ure stuff is the lappy still working or is it dead

i kno how u feel i was knocked off my bike earlier this year by an 18 year old girl in a clio who didnt even stop at a give way line on a side road cost me £800 for repairs on my brand new fireblade which i had only had 3 weeks when it happened. I know it hurts alot when these things happen but it is the usual sad case that people out there just do not care any more we live in a very self centred sociaty i was knocked off in brad day light and this is the gods honest truth a south yorkshire traffic police officer in a marked bmw saw my bike on the floor and ent onto the pavement to go round me and didnt even bother to stop

Tell the police you want to claim against his insurance and they should provide you with enough details to contact his insurance company. Which has the added bonus of getting your bike paid for and if he hasn't reported it getting him into more trouble with his insurance company.

Thanks to MkII again. Hope I didn't appear rude! Was just a bit shaken up. That's the first time I've come off that bike in any circumstances and to see it lying in the middle of a busy road with a double-decker bus the next vehicle behind shook me up a bit.
Almost unbelievably, the only damage to me or my bike seems to be some dirt/scatches on my handlebar endbars, muck on my hi-vis vest and trousers, bent chain links and (I'll need to check in daylight to be sure) I think the rear derailleur and/or cable to it may be knackered. I was most concerned about my laptop I carry on board - but that seems OK!
I'd put money on nothing coming from the police enquiries other than a leaflet in a couple of weeks, but I guess it's important to get it reported. And with any luck, the call he'll make to the owner tomorrow might give them cause to drive a little more sensibly.


This might be your lucky day,I presume this incident happened at primrose hill just past Mick Flyns at approx 1645 ish?
The double deck bus was on out of service vehicle traveling in the direction of Hillsborough,,this vehicle was a camera enabled bus with forward facing cameras.

I know this as I was the driver of the bus and saw the whole incident,PM me if you require the fleet number of the vehicle in the chance that the footage may be recovered.
The driver of the car was more than aware of what he had done as he left the scene at some speed,I accelorated up the road to try and get the details but he just put his foot down,,,lukily though it seems you manged to get the details.

Pleased to hear you're OK.

Now shall we have a sweepstake to see how long it takes before this thread becomes a cyclist bashing thread?:hihi::hihi::hihi:

The cyclist got bashed already....with any luck the driver who bashed him will get done for failing to stop etc...

This might be your lucky day,I presume this incident happened at primrose hill just past Mick Flyns at approx 1645 ish?
The double deck bus was on out of service vehicle traveling in the direction of Hillsborough,,this vehicle was a camera enabled bus with forward facing cameras.

I know this as I was the driver of the bus and saw the whole incident,PM me if you require the fleet number of the vehicle in the chance that the footage may be recovered.
The driver of the car was more than aware of what he had done as he left the scene at some speed,I accelorated up the road to try and get the details but he just put his foot down,,,lukily though it seems you manged to get the details.

What a fantastic bus driver! Good on you!

Brilliant news that it might all be on camera!
Note that the victim was wearing a hi-vis vest. No doubt the driver will still say that they didn't see the cyclist. Maybe the council should have issued vests with flashing lights all over them (very seasonal too).

Pleased to hear you're OK.

Now shall we have a sweepstake to see how long it takes before this thread becomes a cyclist bashing thread?:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Those that have seen my previous posts about cyclists will know I'm not a fan, however this time I'm firmly in the cyclists camp. It is not acceptable to hit and run under any circumstances and I hope the police throw the book at the driver. We can all do without such irresponsible driving and the driver needs a long ban.

Cheers waldershef. I can understand your feeling towards cyclists - some of the cyclists I see don't exactly ride with their own safety in mind. I consider myself to ride carefully, visibly and respectfully on a well-maintained, insured machine. I'm not surprised to have been eventually knocked off by a careless person. Just upset that they couldn't even be bothered to stop. And there's no way they didn't know they'd left me sprawling in the path of a bus.
The nice policeman has said that as I'm not injured (apart from a lot of stiffness and bruises this morning) and there's no damage to the bike, the driver can't be done for failing to stop at a road traffic collision. Sounds barmy to me. Instead I think he's just going to have a word about due care and attention. I've not ridden in today (bit stiff) so haven't had a chance to confirm the small amount of damage I suspect there is to my gears. As I'm thankfully OK I'm not all that interested in throwing the book at them, more that they take the opportunity to reflect on their driving style and their actions once they've had an accident and the Policeman can then spend his time on a crime where the victim needs more help than I.
Thanks to volvoB10m for a) driving carefully enough to be able to stop without running me over (you're a credit to your profession) and b) speaking up with regards to possible camera footage. I don't think it'll be needed, but that's the Police's decision I guess.

I'm very surprised at the comment from the police.
I suppose he's correct that you only have to stay at the scene and wait for the police if there are injuries.
But it is an offence to not stop and exchange details, and obviously the driver couldn't know whether you were injured or not... I think if you push the issue you could probably have him charged with something, failure to stop, driving without due care, depending on what is on the bus tape possibly even dangerous driving.

How exactly did the accident happen if you're recovered enough to share?

Cheers waldershef. I can understand your feeling towards cyclists - some of the cyclists I see don't exactly ride with their own safety in mind. I consider myself to ride carefully, visibly and respectfully on a well-maintained, insured machine. I'm not surprised to have been eventually knocked off by a careless person. Just upset that they couldn't even be bothered to stop. And there's no way they didn't know they'd left me sprawling in the path of a bus.
The nice policeman has said that as I'm not injured (apart from a lot of stiffness and bruises this morning) and there's no damage to the bike, the driver can't be done for failing to stop at a road traffic collision. Sounds barmy to me. Instead I think he's just going to have a word about due care and attention. I've not ridden in today (bit stiff) so haven't had a chance to confirm the small amount of damage I suspect there is to my gears. As I'm thankfully OK I'm not all that interested in throwing the book at them, more that they take the opportunity to reflect on their driving style and their actions once they've had an accident and the Policeman can then spend his time on a crime where the victim needs more help than I.
Thanks to volvoB10m for a) driving carefully enough to be able to stop without running me over (you're a credit to your profession) and b) speaking up with regards to possible camera footage. I don't think it'll be needed, but that's the Police's decision I guess.

As a fellow cyclist, that stinks. The motorist did not know if you were injured or not. If I were you I would get yourself down to the Minor Injuries dept at the Hallamshire and get your injuries (they may only be cuts and bruises, but still injuries) documented. Also get your bike checked out. The bike shop may see some damage to the frame that wasn't immedialtey obvious. Check the line of the forks and check for any dints to the frame. Also check that the wheels still run true. You won't really know if its damaged until you ride it again.

If you're insured then report this to your insurance company and claim damages that way.

I'm not suprised by the response. The police have been equally useless when I've been knocked off too, but at least in my case, the drivers stopped for me. The video evidence should help to prove the case of careless or dangerous driving, to a jury at least.

This driver left you for dead, that's not responsible behaviour and it shouldn't be legal at all.

If knocking a cyclist off his bike isn't dangerous driving, then what is?

How exactly did the accident happen if you're recovered enough to share?
Just before the tram platform the road surface to the left of the tram tracks disappears. At the same time the pedestrian crossing island narrows the right side. As I was passing through this narrow section I saw the front of the car alongside me and thought "this is going to be closer than usual, the guy must be a real idiot". Next thing I knew the wingmirror hit me and knocked me off balance, in recovering my balance I fell onto the car if that makes sense and bike and I slid down it to the floor as the car passed. Probably a softer landing than if I'd fallen the other way and smacked headfirst into the concrete tram platform, but not pleasant.
Think I'll get my bike in for checking/service tomorrow and I'll carefully read what the policeman wants me to sign this evening.

Next think I knew the wingmirror hit me and knocked me off balance, in recovering my balance I fell onto the car if that makes sense and bike and I slid down it to the floor as the car passed. Probably a softer landing than if I'd fallen the other way and smacked headfirst into the concrete tram platform, but not pleasant..

You really are lucky you werent dragged under his wheels if you slid down his car to the road..

My advice get your self down to the nearest corner shop/supermarket and get a ticket mate, with luck like that your bound to be a winner..

Good plan:thumbsup: I shall buy a Lotto ticket at lunch!

so glad you're ok. I was almost knocked over by a motorbike the other day. I was crossing penistone road using the pelican crossing, when I got to the 2nd lane the lights changed from red to amber and by the time I reached the 3rd lane a motorbike shot through a breakneck speed (lights were still on amber). Luckily I was weary and had looked before continuing to cross the lane. The motorbike must have been less than a foot away from me. I'm just glad I didn;t have my baby with me in his pram as he would have been hit!

Just before the tram platform the road surface to the left of the tram tracks disappears. At the same time the pedestrian crossing island narrows the right side. As I was passing through this narrow section I saw the front of the car alongside me and thought "this is going to be closer than usual, the guy must be a real idiot". Next thing I knew the wingmirror hit me and knocked me off balance, in recovering my balance I fell onto the car if that makes sense and bike and I slid down it to the floor as the car passed. Probably a softer landing than if I'd fallen the other way and smacked headfirst into the concrete tram platform, but not pleasant.
Think I'll get my bike in for checking/service tomorrow and I'll carefully read what the policeman wants me to sign this evening.

Glad to hear you're ok! what sort of idiot overtakes on a narrow section of road?! You should definitely follow this up - claiming for your bike off their insurance will make them reflect on their driving :D

I used to cross to the middle of the tram tracks to go past a stop - partly because I thought it was slightly too narrow to pedal down the edge, and partly to stop people overtaking me in that section. Until I did it on a wet day once and ended up on the road - now I won't ride over tram tracks at all!

Glad to hear you're OK and managed to get the driver's reg number - too many idiots around now who sem to think it's OK to smack into other road users.

Really pleased that you are ok Phil - and your bike too.

I'd suggest there's a number of ways to look at this, this is something of a random brainstorm I'm not at all telling you what to do:

Seems we should be pleased that the Police are even doing anything - other posts here suggest that is a result in itself. But do make sure that they do. Yes they are busy this time of year (and always) but one of their festive priorities is road safety - both winter conditions and party conditions.

You could press for more - in other circs the Police would at least go for failing to stop.

If you've got some trust in the Police officer, then perhaps suggest to him that he uses his discretion when he meets the suspect, what his attititude is, whether he owns up or tries to blame you. In my view the point is - if there's no further action, then as the copper leaves his house does the driver cheer that he got away with it or really feel bad for what he's done. Will he drive with more care now, or just think 'I got away with it, I can do what I like'. In which case what might happen next time?

By now I'd hope they've also checked his driving record and would take that into account. If he has a history or clearly doesn't care then there's enough witnesses and hopefully a video to charge him with at least failing to stop, probably more (can you get fixed penalty for minor motoring offences now - otherwise at least a caution). Some points on his licence might help.

He could deny it was him driving - do your witnesses have a description, I guess video from behind won't help that. Depends really how much effort Police prepared to put in. (I understand that Police have a particular understanding of shared vehicles where no-one can remember who was driving:wink::heyhey:).

There'll be other records of where the vehicle went, it'll be recorded on the number plate cameras around the city, when he sped off there's a possibility he then drove through the tram gates cameras - again if Police prepared to check there may be more evidence of his route, how he was driving, and who was driving there.

It's a bit late today to breathalise him - no idea if that would have been an issue.

If the Police don't take it further then Cyclone and other's advice on making an claim against him may be worthwhile - but I can quite see it may not feel worth the hassle.

Volvo - as already said you are a credit to your profession, and I hope those who wondered why the bus didn't stop now understand the decision you took to go after the car. Do you know how long the video is saved (should Phil contact now in case its needed later) You sound doubtful that the video can be recovered, is there a problem with the system? And does it record speed like Police Camera Action?
Actually First must have some really comical footage of Sheffield motorists and passengers. Selling it to tv companies could pay the drivers better/keep the fares down/boost their substantial profits.

Just come across this one. Glad the OP escaped serious harm and pleased that there were folks about to offer assistance. I've ended up on the deck before near a tramstop and I know precisely how horrid it is when everyone pretends to look the other way.
Top marks to that busdriver!

Just come across this one. Glad the OP escaped serious harm and pleased that there were folks about to offer assistance. I've ended up on the deck before near a tramstop and I know precisely how horrid it is when everyone pretends to look the other way.
Top marks to that busdriver!

I agree. When I came off a bus driver (going the other way) stopped to ask if I was ok/needed an ambulance. Well it might have been a tram driver, I was a bit dazed :) but the principle applies!!
There are some good people out there.

Just before the tram platform the road surface to the left of the tram tracks disappears. At the same time the pedestrian crossing island narrows the right side. As I was passing through this narrow section I saw the front of the car alongside me and thought "this is going to be closer than usual, the guy must be a real idiot". Next thing I knew the wingmirror hit me and knocked me off balance, in recovering my balance I fell onto the car if that makes sense and bike and I slid down it to the floor as the car passed. Probably a softer landing than if I'd fallen the other way and smacked headfirst into the concrete tram platform, but not pleasant.
Think I'll get my bike in for checking/service tomorrow and I'll carefully read what the policeman wants me to sign this evening.

Yep, the driver sounds like a real idiot.
I hang well back when going through the narrowed tram stop area behind a cyclist, trying to overtake there is just stupid. It takes 10 seconds to wait and then overtake when there's space once past the stop.

Don’t you think this thread demonstrates the forum at its absolute best?
In the space of five hours the OP has received offers of help in rebuilding his bike, many sympathetic comments, a witness pops up (MkII) so the OP can thank him, then, bu**er me, the driver of the bus behind appears with advice and explains it could well be on tape!
Not forgetting the humorous comments, a smile always helps.
You wouldn’t find this just talking about it in the local, would you? I don't know where else this level of interaction exists. Well done forum!
I’d also just like to add my sympathies to hotphil and hope he and his bike are not too damaged.
Just a suggestion, but why not invite the policeman who’s calling to view this thread, so the police can see the kind of negative publicity their usual inaction generates. Surely a "failure to stop" here at least?

It's because of idiots like him that loads of cyclist/car user bashing threads pop up.

Makes you wonder what it would take for idiots like this to stop after an accident.

I know this as I was the driver of the bus and saw the whole incident,PM me if you require the fleet number of the vehicle in the chance that the footage may be recovered.
The driver of the car was more than aware of what he had done as he left the scene at some speed,I accelorated up the road to try and get the details but he just put his foot down,,,lukily though it seems you manged to get the details.

You sound like a nice bus driver. Can you please drive the bus i get on.

Just before the tram platform the road surface to the left of the tram tracks disappears. At the same time the pedestrian crossing island narrows the right side. As I was passing through this narrow section I saw the front of the car alongside me and thought "this is going to be closer than usual, the guy must be a real idiot". Next thing I knew the wingmirror hit me and knocked me off balance, in recovering my balance I fell onto the car if that makes sense and bike and I slid down it to the floor as the car passed. Probably a softer landing than if I'd fallen the other way and smacked headfirst into the concrete tram platform, but not pleasant.
Think I'll get my bike in for checking/service tomorrow and I'll carefully read what the policeman wants me to sign this evening.

bizarrely I had the same incident on the shalemoor roundabout when it was getting built at the end of Penistone Road. I got clipped by a car, bounced off the barrier and rebounded off his car. Luckily I didn't come off but the bus behind me stopped in time and made sure I was ok. I got straight back on my bike and caught the idiot at the lights before its hits the hill and gave him an evil stare through the window which he wound down and apologised for running into me.

I hope your ok hotphil and this doesn't put you off cycling.

For those wondering why a driver wouldn't stop in such circumstances I have one word: breathalyser. I bet he/she wouldn't want to risk a policeman happening on the scene with one of those.

For those wondering why a driver wouldn't stop in such circumstances I have one word: breathalyser. I bet he/she wouldn't want to risk a policeman happening on the scene with one of those.

Could have been many reasons. Maybe he's just a coward who doesn't want to face up to the consequences of his bad driving. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibility that was bestowed upon him when he got his drivers license, so he should be relieved of it. Failing to stop at an accident that is your fault is never acceptable.

It's your responsibility as a human being to stop. There is absolutely nothing the driver could say to convince me that he had a valid reason for not stopping.

Could have been many reasons. Maybe he's just a coward who doesn't want to face up to the consequences of his bad driving. He clearly doesn't understand the responsibility that was bestowed upon him when he got his drivers license, so he should be relieved of it. Failing to stop at an accident that is your fault is never acceptable.

It's your responsibility as a human being to stop. There is absolutely nothing the driver could say to convince me that he had a valid reason for not stopping.

could also be a guywith no lisence and no insurance

What alarmed me about this was the fact it was actualy fortunate that it was a bus behind and not a tram as the outcome could have been a lot worse.
Even the bus skipped a few feet on the wet tram tracks before coming to a stop but thankfully the incident was seen in time to take corrective action.

Glad to hear you're ok! what sort of idiot overtakes on a narrow section of road?!

Hundreds of them, sadly. You know when you get a traffic island in the middle of the road which narrows the lane? I've lost track of the number of motorists who've tried to overtake me at those points. When I commuted by cycle in London, I ended up pulling into the middle of the lane when coming up to one of those, as I got fed up with a near-miss every time.

Very glad the OP is ok - that's 8 lives left, pal!

Well the good news is that my shoulders feel a lot better today and that I now know the driver of the car also reported the collision to the police. It's up to the police what action, if any, is taken now. Hopefully the driver will at least consider driving with a little more sense as to the fact that cyclists aren't stationary objects and need more room than he/she previously thought.

Well the good news is that my shoulders feel a lot better today and that I now know the driver of the car also reported the collision to the police. It's up to the police what action, if any, is taken now. Hopefully the driver will at least consider driving with a little more sense as to the fact that cyclists aren't stationary objects and need more room than he/she previously thought.

Stills begs the question though,If the driver has now reported it to the police they are obviously aware that they had done it so why drive off and leave the scene at speed:suspect:in all fairness as an early posted said basicly you were left laid out in the middle of the road by this person.

Cheers waldershef. I can understand your feeling towards cyclists - some of the cyclists I see don't exactly ride with their own safety in mind. I consider myself to ride carefully, visibly and respectfully on a well-maintained, insured machine. I'm not surprised to have been eventually knocked off by a careless person. Just upset that they couldn't even be bothered to stop. And there's no way they didn't know they'd left me sprawling in the path of a bus.
The nice policeman has said that as I'm not injured (apart from a lot of stiffness and bruises this morning) and there's no damage to the bike, the driver can't be done for failing to stop at a road traffic collision. Sounds barmy to me. Instead I think he's just going to have a word about due care and attention. I've not ridden in today (bit stiff) so haven't had a chance to confirm the small amount of damage I suspect there is to my gears. As I'm thankfully OK I'm not all that interested in throwing the book at them, more that they take the opportunity to reflect on their driving style and their actions once they've had an accident and the Policeman can then spend his time on a crime where the victim needs more help than I.
Thanks to volvoB10m for a) driving carefully enough to be able to stop without running me over (you're a credit to your profession) and b) speaking up with regards to possible camera footage. I don't think it'll be needed, but that's the Police's decision I guess.

I am pleased to note that you carry insurance.

From what I have read. I would not be surprised if the car was not insured and you will have to take the free legal advise which your insurance coverage normally comes with.

I trust that other cyclist note the incident because it easily could have been themselves.
Good luck