Does anyone have a copy of the Fedora Core ver. 8 Linux distro?

DVD prefferably. If you can post to me that would be great (PM for address you can doa copy for me).

Will bung you a fiver to cover DVD-R/postage and a pint by way of thanks ;)

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Need a bootable disc I can use to install, not just collection of updates :)

Fedora 8 is buggy, believe me... I've tried it as command line only server & GUI-based desktop, & going by a quick Google I seem to be by far not the only person having problems.

If you'd really like a copy I'll sort you out, but if you're used to Redhat flavoured distros you may like to check out CentOS 5 first...

I've been using version 6 of Fedora Core, noticed 8 is out so thought I'd give it a go.
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Thanks for the heads-up on issues, I'll have a read around


I'm not doing anything heavy with it... usual home stuff, but it will also be acting as my dev server so I have a LAMP setup to test on.

I'm not doing anything heavy with it... usual home stuff, but it will also be acting as my dev server so I have a LAMP setup to test on.

I'd go with steev's second reccomendation of CentOS:thumbsup:

More recently Fedora seems to have been used as RHEL's unstable guinea pig platform, the last version I'd happily use as a production machine would be FC6.

CentOS is a variant of RHEL actually built from the released source RPMs, so you're using the exact same versions as the people paying $1500+ for support.

In F8 the 2 biggest pains I found were a problem with the (otherwise solid) NetworkManager, & the fact that the kernel version they packaged makes VMWare Workstation run like a dog. When I went looking around there were all sorts of whinges about how crap it is. Pity, Fedora was my favourite office desktop OS, last couple of months I've gone over to Debian flavoured & haven't looked back. Once you've got used to the difference between yum & apt-get you're laughing.

Any idea which versions of Apache HTTPd/PHP/MySQL come with FC8?

Perhaps more importantly, do they get installed setup and ready to go or do they need frigging with to get them working?

On FC6 I had to mess with apache to get PHP working, had to compile mysql/img libraries into PHP as not included by default etc etc.

Have these guys agreed on permissions to work together yet? I seem to recall the MySQL thing was down to MySQL AB being awkward with licensing meaning PHP couldn't ship with MySQL support as standard.

I don't fancy going through that again as there is little chance I can remember how I did it :)

I don't think the VMWare stuff is likely to be an issue for me.

Network config tools having issues having problems aint so good though. I assume it is just the interface that has issues rather than the actual networking stack?

Network config tools having issues having problems aint so good though. I assume it is just the interface that has issues rather than the actual networking stack?

Not sure, logically I'd have to assume that is was NetworkManager itself, & that if you disable it & set the IP address manually it'd be fine.

Setting up apache with what you want is easy enough, just make sure you choose Web Server & MySQL Server when installing, including all php-mysql modules (which are listed if you look at the packages), then all you have to do apart from setting up httpd.conf is...

chkconfig httpd on
service httpd start

chkconfig mysqld on
service mysqld start

& of course set your mysql root password immediately.

Best thing to do with LAMP servers is to turn off SELinux straight away, after installing to make sure it's all updated & that the LAMP stuff hasn't been missed you can just paste this into a root command prompt...

yum -y install yum-fastestmirror && yum -y install php php-mysql mysql-server && yum -y update

...& reboot once it's finished.

I turn off SELinux as soon as the system is installed...just haven't got round to findout how it works/how to use it properly!

I think I'll probably have a read round problems with FC8 but give it a go anyway. The improved battery life stuff sounds promising, is that Fedora stuff or kernal stuff (and so distro independant) that's doing that work?

The improved battery life stuff sounds promising, is that Fedora stuff or kernal stuff (and so distro independant) that's doing that work?

No idea, but I tried it on my laptop first, if they haven't sorted out the NetworkManager problem it's a killer on a laptop.

If they HAVE sorted it it'd be bleedin' typical, I've just got my lappy sorted with Ubuntu.

I turn off SELinux as soon as the system is installed...just haven't got round to findout how it works/how to use it properly!

Tried it on a LAMP system when it first came out, my gods it's a nightmare. If you ever want to have a look properly have a look at SE Edit (http://seedit.sourceforge.net/), will save you some hair ripping. I gave up even with that though.

Fedora Core 4 or 6 are the best releases in my honest opinion, Centos is good, but there are now better ones out there, I like Debian personally... and Ubuntu is too... umm, kiddy?

I think part of the reason for going FC8 route is hopefully be able to upgrade existing system without too much fighting with the way I've got it set up and without messing with backups etc that I'd have to do if installing a differant distro.

While it's not the end of the world if stuff goes from the machine it'll be going on, it'd be nice is it was a simple (as simple as Linux gets) install over the top.

As long as you back up any httpd.conf info just in case you should be OK then. It's same base version of Apache & MySQL.

You could try upgrading with yum (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq)?

to quote a reply to a post I made on another thread..

"If it aint broke, why fix it?"

Recently yum has been throwing up more and more dependancy issues - I've given up for now.

This [dependancy issues with minimal advice] is the sort of thing that will continue to keep Linux from mass acceptance!

Though with that page open I may stand a better chance of persuading it ;)

"If it aint broke, why fix it?"
Fair comment.

Hopefully the fixed version will be easier to use, faster(!), shinier etc

I moved from Debian to Ubuntu Server, and have to say it's ace. It has a preconfigured LAMP package that you can just apt-get (though on the server it's installed by default I believe) that makes stuff a breeze. Considering the server version doesn't come with a gui by default I don't think it's too kiddy - I did have those worries at first but since trying I'm a convert. It works.

Dunno if that's relevant to this thread, sorry if not.