Whenever this topic comes up, everyone I know seems to disagree. Some men like girls who drink pints, others don't.
Why? Some men seem to think it is unladylike, which I can sort of understand... but is there more to it than that?
On the hand, some men think it's great when a girl orders a pint.

Personally, I like a pint, but it's more of a lazy sunday afternoon drink, or a post work drink, and I can not drink many!

It also seems to depend upon the situation. I would happily have a pint or two with a friend or group of people after work, but not, for example, on a date. I would feel I had to order a bottle instead (never a half!). I don't know why, because it annoys me that something as silly as what you drink can influence people, but some men seem to find it a really big problem if a girl drinks a pint. I even went out with bloke once who hated girls drinking beer full stop! (It didn't last long, at all!)

What do you think?!

I don’t see it as a "womanly" thing to do and most probably would not date girls that do so, but if they want to drink that way the certainly can. Drinking beer from a bottle is ok for a young person, but a woman over 30-35 doing so would seem rather unsophisticated and (sorry) not very intelegent maybe even childish.

I guess that a pint is big, not the sweetest thing, and soooo unsophisticated. Qualities you would not associate with a nice girl..maybe an old lady that walks around with a shotgun - guarding her compost pile, but defiantly not a girl you would like to be with.

must mean that most men are pretty stupid then?

It's completely up to the individual, I wouldn't make any judgement based on what someone ordered at the bar.

If one likes a pint!!! wot does it matter???

Does this mean men can't drink G & T's then???


As for drinking out of a bottle, its common practice in some lands you know

If I see a girl/woman drinking a pint she strikes me as being down to earth, 'one of the lads' and someone who you're able to have a good laugh with generally. I don't find it a turn-off in the slightest and I feel it could even make them look more approachable.

It says to me that I'll find a person who's easy to chat to because she's not bothered what people think and she's less likely to look down her nose at me and make some bitchy comment just because I'm not her type or whatever.

Yes, but never in a skirt! And I don't drink from the bottle in a skirt either. It's 'unladylike' :D

Am I old fashioned? :hihi:

'Mines a Landlord and a Guinness for my friend, thanks! :thumbsup: '

Exactly what Pauly said :thumbsup:

So thats two halves, the girls way, but in a pint pot ? :hihi:

Can't see why there should be a problem with women drinking pints - saves going back to the bar so often!

Women who drink pints tend to be more relaxed about life - or is that a broad generalisation?

A woman once told me that she wouldn't go out with men who drank halves!

Pauly seems to have hit the nail on the head for me too:thumbsup: I have had a change of heart on this though, I used to look at a woman and think she was a bit butch to be drinking pints, until my Daughters explained it was no more butch for them to drink pints than me drinking G&T made me look gay.

Wandering a bit off topic, but related to my earlier post....

Anybody drinking pints with a restaurant meal? :confused:
('cept curry, of course!)

Originally posted by MrHelicopter
A woman once told me that she wouldn't go out with men who drank halves!

I think its down the the individual of what they choose to drink... May it be Pints / Halves or Bottles...

I prefer to drink from a Bottle (Cheap... my Mother calls it :o shocking!) or should it be a soft drink then it would have to be a half... If i were to choose to drink from a pint glass i think i may look a little outta place as my hands are a tad on the small side :( :hihi:

There was a Fun pub in Bournemouth that only sold halves... or you could buy a 2 pint jug an be given half pint glasses (only)... I thought that was a bit strange... Not a MAN's pub... :?

Originally posted by Strix
Wandering a bit off topic, but related to my earlier post....

Anybody drinking pints with a restaurant meal? :confused:
('cept curry, of course!)

I would think the majority of people may drink wine/water... wouldnt they? I know with a Meal i like to be a lady... hmmm :? *ponder* :hihi:

Originally posted by Angel05
There was a Fun pub in Bournemouth that only sold halves... or you could buy a 2 pint jug an be given half pint glasses (only)... I thought that was a bit strange... Not a MAN's pub... :?

Was that to reduce the incidents of 'glassing'?

Originally posted by beckyaa
Some men seem to think it is unladylike,

Thats why i like it :heyhey: :hihi: ;)


Originally posted by beckyaa
On the hand, some men think it's great when a girl orders a pint.

Those would be real men then :D :thumbsup:

I don't mind women drinking half pints if they keep going to the bar to fetch them every 10 minutes, but if they want me to get them a drink then they get a pint, it's less messing about.

Originally posted by Strix
Wandering a bit off topic, but related to my earlier post....

Anybody drinking pints with a restaurant meal? :confused:
('cept curry, of course!)

depends on the company i'm with.
If I can't convince anyone to share a bottle of wine, then i'll either have a pint a bottle or a soft drink or coffee.
If someone will share then i prefer wine.

I seem to drink wine with a meal for some reason. Then again, I generally drink a lot of wine.

Incidentally, what a strange time this thread started. Beckyaa, is this the first thing that popped into your head at 3.34am.

Hmmm, how many males feel a bit silly drinking out of a half pint glass?

Originally posted by Andy78
Hmmm, how many males feel a bit silly drinking out of a half pint glass?

Hold it closer to your face - its a big as a whole pint then :thumbsup: :P

Originally posted by Edd
Hold it closer to your face - its a big as a whole pint then :thumbsup: :P

Good plan. Or wear eye binoculars. :)

I've always ordered halves, it has its advantages - I drink pretty damn slowly so it means its not warm by the time I get to the bottom!

Oooh, this is very interesting, I thought there would be a lot more "no's". Good to hear all those in favour of pint drinking though!

I agree with Strix though - I wouldn't drink a pint in a skirt, becasue I only wear skirts on very, very special occasions!!

Originally posted by Andy78
I seem to drink wine with a meal for some reason. Then again, I generally drink a lot of wine.

Incidentally, what a strange time this thread started. Beckyaa, is this the first thing that popped into your head at 3.34am.

Hmmm, how many males feel a bit silly drinking out of a half pint glass?

Ah, well, yes, 3.34am seemed the ideal time... there are 2 other users online at the time, so wasn't expecting too much of a response too soon! I was just looking for pancake recipes on the internet since it is shrove tuesday tomorrow and sort of got distracted! It was JonJParr with his topic about favourite drinks that got me thinking actually!

Originally posted by beckyaa
I was just looking for pancake recipes on the internet since it is shrove tuesday tomorrow and sort of got distracted!

I cheated last year and bought ready made pancakes from ASDA, very nice they were too. I've only got one frying pan, a giant cast iron thing that nearly dislocates your arm if you try to throw a pancake in the air with it, it's ideal for paella though.

I'm surprised that this is an "issue" of any sort these days!?
What I find off putting is the sight of young women, so p*ss*d they can barely stand....I suspect most of these haven't been supping pints either.
I remember a certain landlord at The West End wouldn't let me buy pints for the missus in the "best room" so it had to be two halves and a pint every time I went to the bar.
As to drinking from bottles it looks both childish and uncouth (and therefore amusing to see) Drinking from a bottle also reduces the degree of taste involved in the process of drinking as the olfactory element of taste is largely bypassed.
Mind you, crap like Budweisser(the American version) has no taste anyway so I suppose it doesn't matter (and I'd also be embarassed to be seen to be adverising the fact that I was drinking the stuff.:gag: :D )

Women should not drink .... its bad for their future kids....

Originally posted by beckyaa
Ah, well, yes, 3.34am seemed the ideal time... there are 2 other users online at the time, so wasn't expecting too much of a response too soon! I was just looking for pancake recipes on the internet since it is shrove tuesday tomorrow and sort of got distracted! It was JonJParr with his topic about favourite drinks that got me thinking actually!


Doh! I can't believe its pancake day tomorrow and our kitchen is in pieces due to a new kitchen being put in. Making pancakes will be awfully difficult.

Originally posted by fresh_return
Women should not drink .... its bad for their future kids....

Controversial, I'll give you that!

On what evidence do you base this bold statement?

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
Controversial, I'll give you that!

On what evidence do you base this bold statement?

K x

Most likely on account of too many beers making the drunk woman forget who's the Father :P

Women who drink pints ... should all be lined up and SHOT !!!

(noooo ... I was joking ... don't shoot me).

The impression I would get is that they're comfortable within themselves and that outweighs any need to conform to external social conventions ... which is always very attractive (so long as they don't have 10 and they're not wearing smelly baggy old tshirts and such).

Originally posted by fresh_return
Women should not drink .... its bad for their future kids....

as Kristian says, what are you basing this ...rather inflammatory... comment on?

I can't believe this is even being discussed. Have I been transported back to Victorian britain, but with the internet?
Even my 80 year old Dad doesn't give a stuff about buying pints for my sisters.

Originally posted by Cyclone
depends on the company i'm with.
If I can't convince anyone to share a bottle of wine, then i'll either have a pint a bottle or a soft drink or coffee.
If someone will share then i prefer wine.

I drink wine also, does that make me gay?

Originally posted by venger
I drink wine also, does that make me gay?

I've no idea, it certainly doesn't make me gay.

I don't understand where your question comes from, care to explain?

It makes no difference to me whether they do or not. I actually don't drink beer (as I'm a wine fanatic!!) and neither does my girlfriend but I'd have no objections if she wanted to. After all, drinking beer, wine, spirits is supposed to be about enjoyment!

Originally posted by venger
I drink wine also, does that make me gay?

No, it's ginger beer that does that.

Originally posted by venger
I drink wine also, does that make me gay?

Absolutely not!!! Unless of course it's some putrid filth like Hock or Lambrini.

I think women that drink pints look unfeminine and unrefined.

Originally posted by t020
I think women that drink pints look unfeminine and unrefined.

Well we are told it is a free world so what the hell!

To reply to Cyclone, I used to be a little concious that wine was not a manly drink, but I don`t pay it any mind.

well i sup pints ( guinness ) and dont give a monkeys what anyone thinks i look like, im goin out for a drink not tryin to win popularity votes. i do get the odd comments of .. awww luv do ya want a hand carryin that its bigger than you :D cos im only 4ft 10 LOL
Hubby sups holstan from a bottle and hes neither uncouth or childish, hes even been known to sup alco pops and hes certainly deffinatly not gay :hihi: :heyhey:

Litha :banana: :banana:

Originally posted by JonJParr
Absolutely not!!! Unless of course it's some putrid filth like Hock or Lambrini.

or something simply described as "red", "white" or (the worse) "rose".

Originally posted by venger
Well we are told it is a free world so what the hell!

To reply to Cyclone, I used to be a little concious that wine was not a manly drink, but I don`t pay it any mind.

Quite the contrary Venger- drinking wine is a civilised, cultivated and gentlemanly tradition.

Originally posted by venger
Well we are told it is a free world so what the hell!



Yeah, they're free to look unfeminine and unrefined if that's how they want to appear.

Originally posted by nick2
or something simply described as "red", "white" or (the worse) "rose".

I'm there with you Nick! How can you describe a wine simply by its colour????

Originally posted by t020
Yeah, they're free to look unfeminine and unrefined if that's how they want to appear.

No, they are free to look unfemenine and unrefined to YOU.

as Jon said, I think it's just a bit more 'grown up' than drinking lager.

I don't normally do it in the pub though, for a start i'd have finished a glass well before everyone else had finished their pint, despite me knowing that it's simply more sophisticated etc... not everyone in the pub will know that, and I don't want to have to explain it, and it gets me drunk far quicker than lager, so it'd have to be a very short night for me.

T020 - I take it you have nothing against men drinking pints? A clear case of double standards and discrimination, no?

Originally posted by venger
Well we are told it is a free world so what the hell!

To reply to Cyclone, I used to be a little concious that wine was not a manly drink, but I don`t pay it any mind.

Originally posted by JonJParr
I'm there with you Nick! How can you describe a wine simply by its colour????

It's like going into a pub and asking for a pint of "brown".

Originally posted by Cyclone

T020 - I take it you have nothing against men drinking pints? A clear case of double standards and discrimination, no?

Men and women ARE different. Most men find women who act in a masculine way unattractive. It's not discrimination as such, it's more a natural reaction as a result of how we are "programmed" as human beings.

I tend to think women supping pints look a bit butch, but that's just because I'm old fashioned. I can remember when we lived in Wales a couple of pubs that wouldn't allow women in the place unless they were accompanied by a man !!

The good old days :P

Originally posted by nick2
It's like going into a pub and asking for a pint of "brown".

Exactly. Another thing that gets my goat, "house red" or "house white" - are you not going to tell me what it is???? (Not that I ever order the house wine though).

Out of interest Jon have you ever tried making your own wine at home ? Almost all the wine I made was horrible but going out to get the raw ingredients and actually making it was fun.

Originally posted by nick2
Out of interest Jon have you ever tried making your own wine at home ? Almost all the wine I made was horrible but going out to get the raw ingredients and actually making it was fun.

I haven't actually Nick - that's not to say I haven't thought about it. The problem is our climate - I don't think the grapes would grow properly and to make good wine you need to have well-aged reserves of good vintages to blend with this year's produce. I'd love to give it a go but not in the UK - it'd have to be in France.

Originally posted by nick2
or something simply described as ......"white".....

Its not white, its transparent. You're thinking of milk :P :hihi:

Originally posted by t020
Men and women ARE different. Most men find women who act in a masculine way unattractive. It's not discrimination as such, it's more a natural reaction as a result of how we are "programmed" as human beings.

I think that view would have been quite normal 50 years ago. the times have moved on a bit since then and it's impossible to judge someone's manor purely by the beverage they are drinking.

Originally posted by Andy78
I think that view would have been quite normal 50 years ago. the times have moved on a bit since then and it's impossible to judge someone's manor purely by the beverage they are drinking.

I don't judge their whole *manner* based on how they drink, but it definitely does provide an unfeminine first impression to me.

Originally posted by t020
I don't judge their whole *manner* based on how they drink, but it definitely does provide an unfeminine first impression to me.

Mel Sykes looked anything but unfeminine with a pint of boddies in her hand to me.
;)

Originally posted by t020
I don't judge their whole *manner* based on how they drink, but it definitely does provide an unfeminine first impression to me.

oops, I rushed that and made a typo error. Thanks for pointing it out.

Surely there's more to a first impression than a drink sitting in front of someone at the pub. Maybe in a more formal setting a pint would look a tad out of place and give a bad impression, but when having a casual Sunday drink in the local I don't think it's relevant.

i agree.
What i disagree with then is that drinking a pint is unfeminine. It's stereotyping, which whilst unavoidable can at least be moderated in yourself by challenging your own preconceptions.

Originally posted by t020
Men and women ARE different. Most men find women who act in a masculine way unattractive. It's not discrimination as such, it's more a natural reaction as a result of how we are "programmed" as human beings.

Originally posted by kilauea
Mel Sykes looked anything but unfeminine with a pint of boddies in her hand to me.
;)

...until she opened her gob and out came that awful Manc drone :loopy:

Eeeeeyyyyerrrraaaarrraaaiiiiitttt luv? (appears to be some sort of greeting on Coronation Street).

Originally posted by t020
I don't judge their whole *manner* based on how they drink, but it definitely does provide an unfeminine first impression to me.

Would your impression somehow be altered if they were to drink two halves? If not then it would seem to suggest you're not bothered by the drink itself but the way it's presented and consumed by the other sex. It would also seem to suggest that you feel threatened by a women drinking from what you perceive as a "man-sized" container.

Originally posted by t020
Yeah, they're free to look unfeminine and unrefined if that's how they want to appear.

you missed out a bit there t020


"..how they want to appear to me"


Likelihood is that they don't really give a rats ass how they appear to you, wouldn't you say?

Originally posted by JonJParr
I haven't actually Nick - that's not to say I haven't thought about it. The problem is our climate - I don't think the grapes would grow properly and to make good wine you need to have well-aged reserves of good vintages to blend with this year's produce. I'd love to give it a go but not in the UK - it'd have to be in France.

I was thinking more along the lines of tea and parsnip wine or elderflower champagne. I never actually tried using grapes, that might be where I went wrong :)

Women can drink what they want IMO, if they want a pint, why shouldn't they have one?

I don't care whether it looks "manly" or whatever.

Originally posted by Abdul
...until she opened her gob and out came that awful Manc drone :loopy:

Eeeeeyyyyerrrraaaarrraaaiiiiitttt luv? (appears to be some sort of greeting on Coronation Street).

I like her accent, but then I am from the north west I suppose.
Conversely (and here's where I get shot at), I have not and could never go out with a "yorkshire lass" for the same reason.

Originally posted by nick2
I was thinking more along the lines of tea and parsnip wine or elderflower champagne. I never actually tried using grapes, that might be where I went wrong :)

Nick, parnsip wine really doesn't sound appealing at all.

Originally posted by JonJParr
Nick, parnsip wine really doesn't sound appealing at all.
In pints? :confused:

(I've missed about 50 posts on this thread, and am beyond catching up :D )

Originally posted by kilauea
I like her accent, but then I am from the north west I suppose.
Conversely (and here's where I get shot at), I have not and could never go out with a "yorkshire lass" for the same reason.

Isn't that as bad as judging someone by their drink?

Originally posted by JonJParr
Nick, parnsip wine really doesn't sound appealing at all.

It's not, it's horrible, but thats the fun of home wine making.

Elderflower champagne is nice, though most of mine exploded before it was ready.

Women are getting fat, just look on the street, in the club, in a pub or in a bar. They go to gym to do a bit of swimming and look at the chrome of the pull-up bar, just to satisfy themselves with the fact that they go to gym. Not all the women though, some you see in the gym running, crunching and doing weights with the guys - these are the ones that look great, (probably) feel great and all the guys are looking at. Its not just that they look astonishing its the fact that they have their head screwed on proper and have self-control and determination to see things through. And women wonder why guys never check them out in their high heels and miniskirts and a ton of blush with a thick layer of shocking red lipstick.
This is not just about physical image, it’s the new mindset, women have the freedom to do whatever they want and instead of being something good the get ****** of pints and walk around the streets dressed like slags shouting abusive remarks. This don’t bother me, drink what you like and how you like, but you’re not going to get the respect you want, same would go for guys who do the same thing.
Lol I’m sure you’ll all think I’m a sexist *******, but no. I’m not even sure if I mean al the thing I’ve said, this is just an attempt to explain MY feeling towards the topic.

Originally posted by adaline
Women are getting fat, just look on the street, in the club, in a pub or in a bar. They go to gym to do a bit of swimming and look at the chrome of the pull-up bar, just to satisfy themselves with the fact that they go to gym. Not all the women though, some you see in the gym running, crunching and doing weights with the guys - these are the ones that look great, (probably) feel great and all the guys are looking at. Its not just that they look astonishing its the fact that they have their head screwed on proper and have self-control and determination to see things through. And women wonder why guys never check them out in their high heels and miniskirts and a ton of blush with a thick layer of shocking red lipstick.
This is not just about physical image, it’s the new mindset, women have the freedom to do whatever they want and instead of being something good the get ****** of pints and walk around the streets dressed like slags shouting abusive remarks. This don’t bother me, drink what you like and how you like, but you’re not going to get the respect you want, same would go for guys who do the same thing.
Lol I’m sure you’ll all think I’m a sexist *******, but no. I’m not even sure if I mean al the thing I’ve said, this is just an attempt to explain MY feeling towards the topic.

Sorry mate but that's ******. My sister drinks pints (of cider and Guiness btw), but is also a personal trainer and is in far better shape than average.

Originally posted by adaline
Women are getting fat, just look on the street, in the club, in a pub or in a bar. They go to gym to do a bit of swimming and look at the chrome of the pull-up bar, just to satisfy themselves with the fact that they go to gym. Not all the women though, some you see in the gym running, crunching and doing weights with the guys - these are the ones that look great, (probably) feel great and all the guys are looking at. Its not just that they look astonishing its the fact that they have their head screwed on proper and have self-control and determination to see things through. And women wonder why guys never check them out in their high heels and miniskirts and a ton of blush with a thick layer of shocking red lipstick.
This is not just about physical image, it’s the new mindset, women have the freedom to do whatever they want and instead of being something good the get ****** of pints and walk around the streets dressed like slags shouting abusive remarks. This don’t bother me, drink what you like and how you like, but you’re not going to get the respect you want, same would go for guys who do the same thing.
Lol I’m sure you’ll all think I’m a sexist *******, but no. I’m not even sure if I mean al the thing I’ve said, this is just an attempt to explain MY feeling towards the topic.

Just when the world was getting worried about media hype causing an explosion of eating disorders! No! says adaline, 'they're all to fat, get back in the gym and stop drinking pints'.

I'd like to respond to that, but it'll take me a while thinking about where to start.

Someone please explain why it wouldn't be OK???? A drink is a drink, does it really matter how big the bloody glass is?

Blumin Ridiculas!

Is it ok for women to drink pints?
Not if it's mine it isn't!:P

it's ok newgirl, look at the poll. it's only a minority that have such a dated and retarded view of people based on the liquid they consume.

Originally posted by kilauea
Sorry mate but that's ******. My sister drinks pints (of cider and Guiness btw), but is also a personal trainer and is in far better shape than average.
Everyone is different of course, and I wasent just talking about "drinking habits vs fitnes" relationship.

Originally posted by adaline
Everyone is different of course, and I wasent just talking about "drinking habits vs fitnes" relationship.

what were you talking about then?

You start of with a comment that "Women are getting fat", and then let your chauvanistic tendies run riot.

Are you against the idea in general that women have the freedom to do whatever they like? Would you prefer it if only men had the freedom to drink what they liked, get fat if they wished and make a token gesture of going to the gym?

Even if we overlook the sexism oozinng from your comments your assertion that women who drink pints are fat (I presume that was the causal link you were trying to draw?) doesn't bear any scrunity, I doubt you have a single shread of evidence to support it.

Originally posted by Andy78
Just when the world was getting worried about media hype causing an explosion of eating disorders! No! says adaline, 'they're all to fat, get back in the gym and stop drinking pints'.

I'd like to respond to that, but it'll take me a while to thinking about where to start.
Why do people like what they see on TV and want be like that?
Im not saying all the girls have to be 90/60/90, people have their own special features - thats the beauty of it, everyone is different.
My point is that women are loosing that what makes them "womanly", I guess. As stated before this is just what I think - I think.

Originally posted by adaline
Why do people like what they see on TV and want be like that?


I don't know, but surely your opinion that women are getting too fat for your liking is the kind of opinion that fuels the problem. :suspect:

Incidentally, your posts seem a little incoherent.

it's basic human nature. If we are constantly told that something is attractive, then we come to believe it's true. When that something is an unachievable (to the average person) image conjured up by the media it causes misery and grief for the more susceptible who feel that they are lacking somehow because they can't reach that impossible ideal.

Originally posted by adaline
Why do people like what they see on TV and want be like that?
Im not saying all the girls have to be 90/60/90, people have their own special features - thats the buaty of it, everyone is different.

Originally posted by Cyclone
... image conjured up by the media it causes misery and grief for the more susceptible who feel that they are lacking somehow because they can't reach that impossible ideal.

Absolutely Correct.

And the companies *WANT* to cause people grief and make you feel you're lacking in some way. They go out of their way to stimulate a sense of lack and unworthiness in people.

It's only through such stimulation and manipulation of the consumer (baaaaaa!!! - you sheep) that the companies get to make money.

Isn't it a wonderful world.

Don't let them win.

Don't buy crap you don't need.

Adaline, I hope you are a model specimen of the males of our race to make comments like the ones you have made. i suspect, however, that you are not.

If I were just going for a couple of quiet drinks with mates, I would have a pint. If I have made more of an effort and am on a night out then having a glass of wine or a cocktail or something just seems a bit more special and generally suits my mood better.

A couple of people have asked why this is even being discussed, but I think the fact that so far 15% of people have said a straight 'no' answers that question!

It seems to be very much based upon our lager loutish perception of drinking pints. In Europe it generally seems more acceptable, but that's probably just due to the different attitude towards alcohol in general in Europe.

incidentally, I hadn't expected this thread to be quite so, urm, controversial, but there we go!

computer says no

not to mention that in Europe 500ml of lager costs 5Euro.

Sometimes I like to go out and drink cocktails or shooters, sometimes in addition to pints, sometimes instead of! Not sure what the relevance of that was, just proving that not all men are stereotypical lager swillers all the time.

Originally posted by beckyaa
Adaline, I hope you are a model specimen of the males of our race to make comments like the ones you have made. i suspect, however, that you are not.

If I were just going for a couple of quiet drinks with mates, I would have a pint. If I have made more of an effort and am on a night out then having a glass of wine or a cocktail or something just seems a bit more special and generally suits my mood better.

A couple of people have asked why this is even being discussed, but I think the fact that so far 15% of people have said a straight 'no' answers that question!

It seems to be very much based upon our lager loutish perception of drinking pints. In Europe it generally seems more acceptable, but that's probably just due to the different attitude towards alcohol in general in Europe.

Originally posted by beckyaa
Adaline, I hope you are a model specimen of the males of our race to make comments like the ones you have made. i suspect, however, that you are not.

If I were just going for a couple of quiet drinks with mates, I would have a pint. If I have made more of an effort and am on a night out then having a glass of wine or a cocktail or something just seems a bit more special and generally suits my mood better.

A couple of people have asked why this is even being discussed, but I think the fact that so far 15% of people have said a straight 'no' answers that question!

It seems to be very much based upon our lager loutish perception of drinking pints. In Europe it generally seems more acceptable, but that's probably just due to the different attitude towards alcohol in general in Europe.
Why do you suspect that?
Why do I get all the grief for expresing MY opinion, you ppl dont like someone who thinks differently to you?

Originally posted by adaline
Why do you suspect that?
Why do I get all the grief for expresing MY opinion, you ppl dont like someone who thinks differently to you?

The law of averages would lead us to that conclusion without any other evidence, since there aren't many perfect specimens around.

You're getting discussion, that's what generally happens on here. The level of discussion being roughly proportional to how controversial/bigotted/sexist/offensive (delete as appropriate) your opinions are.

Originally posted by Cyclone
You're getting discussion, that's what generally happens on here. The level of discussion being roughly proportional to how controversial/bigotted/sexist/offensive (delete as appropriate) your opinions are.

It was a discussion until ppl start to reference me personally, and saying "Adaline, u say that but i bet ur real ugly" type of things.

Originally posted by adaline
It was a discussion until ppl start to reference me personally, and saying "Adaline, u say that but i bet ur real ugly" type of things.

yeah, that happens when people get a bit too emotional.
Ignore it, carry on the discussion, I want to see how you justify your position.

Originally posted by adaline
It was a discussion until ppl start to reference me personally, and saying "Adaline, u say that but i bet ur real ugly" type of things.

If you make a reference between drinking pints and being too fat, women who drink pints arte likely to take that personally too. Just a thought.

Oh for heaven's sake! The nature of this thread means it's entirely subjective - there's no right or wrong. People will have their own opinion on how they think women appear when drinking from pint glasses and, no matter how un-PC, they should be allowed to contribute their opinion to the thread without being attacked over it.

As again PERSONALLY... I think women are loosing that what makes them feminine. But they still expect others to treat them as if they were a lady.

I suspect that because of your sexist attitude to women. You seem to think it is unacceptable that "women are getting fat", but make no mention of the fact that in general, as a nation (men and women), we are getting "fat".
I also suspect that because of the way you describe women doing weights with the guys, rather than as if you are actually one of the men doing weights. When I am at the gym, I tend to find it is just as likely to find a man who is not actually doing anything very productive, they far too often just pose by the dumbells and that myself and other women are the ones who sweat away in aerobics or on the treadmill.
I think many of the women on here who have admitted to drinking pints are the ones with their heads screwed on - more screwed on than yours seems to be because they realise that to have self control and determination they can drink whatever the hell they like without someone like you calling them fat.

I appreciate you are expressing your opinions, which you are of course totally entitled to do. But so is everyone else, and face it, most people are disagreeing with you. You talk about respect, but generally I find I get far more respect by not listening to people like you and drinking whatever I like. And no, I am not fat, don't wear red lipstick and am not a slapper.

Originally posted by adaline
Women are getting fat, just look on the street, in the club, in a pub or in a bar. They go to gym to do a bit of swimming and look at the chrome of the pull-up bar, just to satisfy themselves with the fact that they go to gym. Not all the women though, some you see in the gym running, crunching and doing weights with the guys - these are the ones that look great, (probably) feel great and all the guys are looking at. Its not just that they look astonishing its the fact that they have their head screwed on proper and have self-control and determination to see things through. And women wonder why guys never check them out in their high heels and miniskirts and a ton of blush with a thick layer of shocking red lipstick.
This is not just about physical image, it’s the new mindset, women have the freedom to do whatever they want and instead of being something good the get ****** of pints and walk around the streets dressed like slags shouting abusive remarks. This don’t bother me, drink what you like and how you like, but you’re not going to get the respect you want, same would go for guys who do the same thing.
Lol I’m sure you’ll all think I’m a sexist *******, but no. I’m not even sure if I mean al the thing I’ve said, this is just an attempt to explain MY feeling towards the topic.

Originally posted by adaline
It was a discussion until ppl start to reference me personally, and saying "Adaline, u say that but i bet ur real ugly" type of things.

I'm sorry adaline, but I did not say I thought you were really ugly, I just said I thought that you are probably not perfect male specimen. I apologise, no offence meant, I just meant that the chances are you are not Brad Pitt, just as I am not Kate Moss.

Originally posted by beckyaa
I suspect that because of your sexist attitude to women. You seem to think it is unacceptable that "women are getting fat", but make no mention of the fact that in general, as a nation (men and women), we are getting "fat".
I also suspect that because of the way you describe women doing weights with the guys, rather than as if you are actually one of the men doing weights. When I am at the gym, I tend to find it is just as likely to find a man who is not actually doing anything very productive, they far too often just pose by the dumbells and that myself and other women are the ones who sweat away in aerobics or on the treadmill.
I think many of the women on here who have admitted to drinking pints are the ones with their heads screwed on - more screwed on than yours seems to be because they realise that to have self control and determination they can drink whatever the hell they like without someone like you calling them fat.

I appreciate you are expressing your opinions, which you are of course totally entitled to do. But so is everyone else, and face it, most people are disagreeing with you. You talk about respect, but generally I find I get far more respect by not listening to people like you and drinking whatever I like. And no, I am not fat, don't wear red lipstick and am not a slapper.
That is true, men are also getting fat, and it is true that alot of them pose around the lifting area. But I bet you would look away from those, towards the ones that do work out, dress properly and can string together something better than a pick up line.
And yes, I do "weights with the guys", and I enjoy having a great body, and im not sexist although I do seem that way from what i say.

Originally posted by beckyaa
I'm sorry adaline, but I did not say I thought you were really ugly, I just said I thought that you are probably not perfect male specimen. I apologise, no offence meant, I just meant that the chances are you are not Brad Pitt, just as I am not Kate Moss.
I dont get offended as such, but thanks for your care. Im sorry too, my knowledge of English is not deep enough to convey my ideas without offending someone.

Originally posted by adaline
That is true, men are also getting fat, and it is true that alot of them pose around the lifting area. But I bet you would look away from those, towards the ones that do work out, dress properly and can string together something better than a pick up line.
And yes, I do "weights with the guys", and I enjoy having a great body, and im not sexist although I do seem that way from what i say.

I don't think you are particularly sexist really, perhaps more "pintist"?! I think you have a perception of female pint drinkers, and we need to show you that they are not all like that!

Originally posted by beckyaa
I don't think you are particularly sexist really, perhaps more "pintist"?! I think you have a perception of female pint drinkers, and we need to show you that they are not all like that!

And I think that people need to be allowed to think what they like. Afterall, you asked:

Originally posted by beckyaa

What do you think?!

Don't complain when some people give thoughts that aren't to your liking.

Originally posted by t020
And I think that people need to be allowed to think what they like.

Of course, and if we all agreed then this Forum would be a pretty dull place. But the whole point is that we express our opinions and then discuss them. Everyone can think whatever they like, but we are also allowed to question those opinions.

Originally posted by beckyaa
Of course, and if we all agreed then this Forum would be a pretty dull place. But the whole point is that we express our opinions and then discuss them. Everyone can think whatever they like, but we are also allowed to question those opinions.

True, but I think with the nature of this thread that you can't really question opinions because there are no facts to support either side of the fence - it's entirely subjective. e.g. I think it looks unfeminine, that's my opinion - there's not quantitive measure of femininity to support my opinion or to argue against my opinion.

As for Phanerothyme's point of "I'm sure they don't care what you think", well likewise I don't care if they care about what I think, and more to the point I wouldn't tell them anyway, unless asked (as was the case in this thread). Obviously if they're asking, they DO care what people think.

Is it me or are women that drink pints damm sexy!!??:love:

Originally posted by t020
True, but I think with the nature of this thread that you can't really question opinions because there are no facts to support either side of the fence - it's entirely subjective. e.g. I think it looks unfeminine, that's my opinion - there's not quantitive measure of femininity to support my opinion or to argue against my opinion.

As for Phanerothyme's point of "I'm sure they don't care what you think", well likewise I don't care if they care about what I think, and more to the point I wouldn't tell them anyway, unless asked (as was the case in this thread). Obviously if they're asking, they DO care what people think.

Well it started off being subjective, but statements like "women are getting fat", that are written as if fact but are quite clearly incorrect mean that the whole point of the thread shifts. I asked the question because I was interested, not because I care what you think of me personally.

And just off the topic even more, you are confusing me a lot by editing posts straight after you have posted - I reply to them and then what was written has changed by the time I click 'post reply'!

Originally posted by beckyaa
I suspect that because of your sexist attitude to women. You seem to think it is unacceptable that "women are getting fat", but make no mention of the fact that in general, as a nation (men and women), we are getting "fat".
You have sed so yourself, women and men are getting fat. The fact that i didnt mention men doesent make it "clearly incorrect" for women.

Originally posted by beckyaa
Well it started off being subjective, but statements like "women are getting fat", that are written as if fact but are quite clearly incorrect mean that the whole point of the thread shifts. I asked the question because I was interested, not because I care what you think of me personally.

Granted, but I never said that, someone else did - maybe I mislead you by quoting your post in response to him

Originally posted by beckyaa

And just off the topic even more, you are confusing me a lot by editing posts straight after you have posted - I reply to them and then what was written has changed by the time I click 'post reply'!

Glad to be of service. ;)

Originally posted by beckyaa
Whenever this topic comes up, everyone I know seems to disagree. Some men like girls who drink pints, others don't.
Why? Some men seem to think it is unladylike, which I can sort of understand... but is there more to it than that?
On the hand, some men think it's great when a girl orders a pint.

Personally, I like a pint, but it's more of a lazy sunday afternoon drink, or a post work drink, and I can not drink many!

It also seems to depend upon the situation. I would happily have a pint or two with a friend or group of people after work, but not, for example, on a date. I would feel I had to order a bottle instead (never a half!). I don't know why, because it annoys me that something as silly as what you drink can influence people, but some men seem to find it a really big problem if a girl drinks a pint. I even went out with bloke once who hated girls drinking beer full stop! (It didn't last long, at all!)

What do you think?!

I would never be seen out with a woman who drinks pints of beer, as I consider it to be very unladylike.

Originally posted by halevan
I would never be seen out with a woman who drinks pints of beer, as I consider it to be very unladylike.

What if they were really 'ladylike' in every other respect apart from the pint in front of them?

I still think this idea is one that has been imposed on women in the past. What is and what is not acceptable. I do find it surprising that people still judge on such simple things without any other information about the person in question. Obviously I am naive.

Originally posted by kilauea
I can't believe this is even being discussed. Have I been transported back to Victorian britain, but with the internet?



What the Dickens!?! Women drinking pints? It'll bring down the Empire! They'll be wanting the vote next...

Originally posted by miniminch
Is it me or are women that drink pints damm sexy!!??:love:

I've been thinking about this, and yes, I can see your point of view. You sometimes see some really classy ladies drinking pints and it does sort of look attractive in a strange kind of way.

It looks kind of intellectual with the right woman.

Originally posted by Andy78
What if they were really 'ladylike' in every other respect apart from the pint in front of them?
Then I would change my opinion about that one woman, unless about 20-30% of women were like that. But until that time it stands, on the basis of my female friends - drinking pints is not ladylike. Rofl, "pintist", I love that word!!

Originally posted by halevan
I would never be seen out with a woman who drinks pints of beer, as I consider it to be very unladylike.

is it the beer, or is it the pint glass you object to??

I'm sitting here laughing - what planet am I on? I thought I was living in the 21st century ... you'll be telling us next that you would never be seen out with one of your mates drinking wine from a dinky little glass - how unmanly!!

What with someone suggesting to a woman asking about fun nights out to join the WI and now this .... jeeze, some of you people - get a grip please....:D

Originally posted by rubydazzler
is it the beer, or is it the pint glass you object to??

I'm sitting here laughing - what planet am I on? I thought I was living in the 21st century ... you'll be telling us next that you would never be seen out with one of your mates drinking wine from a dinky little glass - how unmanly!!

What with someone suggesting to a woman asking about fun nights out to join the WI and now this .... jeeze, some of you people - get a grip please....:D


Please have the decency to show respect towards other peoples' opinions. Don't belittle them just because they don't fit your liberal, PC and idealistic view of the world.

Originally posted by t020
Please have the decency to show respect towards other peoples' opinions. Don't belittle them just because they don't fit your liberal, PC and idealistic view of the world.

What in the name of all that's holy is liberal, PC or idealistic about it?!

Women are now worse than the men,trust me I know I work as a door supervisor at weekends,I see the state they get into.
Whatever happend to the fairer sex?? it went years ago.
All they do is show themselves up.

Originally posted by kilauea
What in the name of all that's holy is liberal, PC or idealistic about it?!

Liberal - men and women are the same in every single way so therefore there are no masculine/feminine traits, only human traits.

PC - pretty much the same as above.

Idealistic - it isn't matched by reality since men and women ARE different and there have always been, and always will be traits that are distinct between each gender.

Originally posted by t020
Liberal - men and women are the same in every single way so therefore there are no masculine/feminine traits, only human traits.

PC - pretty much the same as above.

Idealistic - it isn't matched by reality since men and women ARE different and there have always been, and always will be traits that are distinct between each gender.

Oh right. So you genuinely do believe women drinking out of a pint glass is a deliberate attempt at masculinity?
Obviously men and women are different (nobody has disputed this hence your redundant use of the word idealistic), but using size of glass to differentiate between the sexes is probably at best ****ing stupid.

Originally posted by royjames
Women are now worse than the men,trust me I know I work as a door supervisor at weekends,I see the state they get into.
Whatever happend to the fairer sex??

Probably went when they were released from the leash. They no longer have to fit into your ideal. I'm sure you'd change that if you could though.

Bloody too right I would,lets get the women back to how they used to be feminine and nice,not ****** up on the floor showing their nickers to all and sundry.

Originally posted by royjames
Bloody too right I would,lets get the women back to how they used to be feminine and nice,not ****** up on the floor showing their nickers to all and sundry.

So you are sexist as well as racist? Somehow I am not surprised! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by kilauea
Oh right. So you genuinely do believe women drinking out of a pint glass is a deliberate attempt at masculinity?
Obviously men and women are different (nobody has disputed this hence your redundant use of the word idealistic), but using size of glass to differentiate between the sexes is probably at best ****ing stupid.


No, I don't believe that they are trying to look masculine, I never said that. I believe that they look unfeminine, that's my opinion.

Originally posted by royjames
Bloody too right I would,lets get the women back to how they used to be feminine and nice,not ****** up on the floor showing their nickers to all and sundry.

I wonder what the women would change in you since you're so keen to change the way they behave?

T020 - will you admit that you are stereotyping women who drink pints?

Originally posted by t020
Please have the decency to show respect towards other peoples' opinions. Don't belittle them just because they don't fit your liberal, PC and idealistic view of the world.

t020 - I didn't belittle anyone, I can safely leave that sort of thing to your goodself. IMO, the people who made those comments were patronising beyond belief but neither of them were you, so why not leave it to them to take me to task if they so wish?

Earlier in this thread (page 3) you commented that women drinking pints looked unfeminine and unrefined. This attitude was prevalent in the fifties and before (see the comment about old landlords/ladies refusing to serve beer in pint glasses to women). It's surprising to me that a younger generation would still be perpetuating those sort of outmoded ideas.

From what i've seen of you in chat and on the threads, you give the impression of being rather straitlaced and having a misplaced sense of superiority, but eventually you will have to accept that we are all people and as such should be able to make our own choices of behaviour without being judged by others, either harshly or approvingly.

My "liberal and idealistic" view of the world has been honed over many years ... so I reserve the right to it ... but I am NEVER politically correct ... heaven forfend. And before you ask, no, i don't want to drink anything in a pint glass - but i reserve the right to do so if i wish - and still preserve my undoubted femininity ....

.... but i would never try to force you to drink a pint if you only wanted a half on the grounds that it would make you look unmanly and prissy ...;)

Originally posted by t020
Please have the decency to show respect towards other peoples' opinions. Don't belittle them just because they don't fit your liberal, PC and idealistic view of the world.

Isn't your opinion "belittling" to women T020?

Originally posted by t020
Please have the decency to show respect towards other peoples' opinions. Don't belittle them just because they don't fit your liberal, PC and idealistic view of the world.

:D

Loving the way you shoehorn "PC" into every debate going - even one about the size of beer glasses!

The size of receptacle used as an indicator of femininity... how utterly banal and ridiculous. :loopy:

Personally I wouldn't drink a pint, but thats purely on the basis that I would a) pass out if I actually managed to finish it or b) drop it. Otherwise I think its fine for a woman to drink a pint if thats what she wants. I don't have much else to say on the matter.

Originally posted by royjames
Bloody too right I would,lets get the women back to how they used to be feminine and nice,not ****** up on the floor showing their nickers to all and sundry.

Predictable!

Because that's how all women act? A warped view as excpected.

When one of my neighbours goes to the pub with her husband she takes a half-pint glass in her bag, orders a pint and pours it into her half-pint glass to drink it.

Originally posted by Patchy
When one of my neighbours goes to the pub with her husband she takes a half-pint glass in her bag, orders a pint and pours it into her half-pint glass to drink it.

Why not just ask for a half-pint glass at the bar?

Surely what you drink is a personal choice?

I can understand why some men find it off-putting. I think these boozy women who line the bars on a Saturday night downing pints, belching and swearing are very vulgar, but maybe an equally vulgar and scummy bloke is what they're trying to appeal to - in which case I'm sure they're onto a winner!!!

But surely it's what you look like and what comes out of your mouth that's important - not what drink you're holding? So if a woman is stood there with her make-up halfway down her face, swigging a pint and being crude then I see why that could be a turn-off. But if a nice-looking girl was sitting with her mates, enjoying herself and capable of having an intelligant conversation, I hardly think you could turn your nose up just cause she's got a pint in her hand.

Originally posted by Patchy
When one of my neighbours goes to the pub with her husband she takes a half-pint glass in her bag, orders a pint and pours it into her half-pint glass to drink it.
Now that really is weird!

Can I just make clear that I never said it *wasn't* ok for women to drink pints? Of course they can drink whatever they like! I just offered my personal opinion on how it looks to me, that's all.

Cyclone - yes it is stereotypical, but so what?

Greenback - of course PC has relevance to this debate. Equality between genders is an issue of PC, and of course there should be complete equality in the workplace, etc, but we must also remember that men and women have differences too, one of which being masculine/feminine behaviour.

pint drinking ladies make me think "by heck, its gorgoeus". not really my bag, each to their own:confused:

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
pint drinking ladies make me think "by heck, its gorgoeus". not really my bag, each to their own:confused:

Good on you. As for "each to their own", well, that's debatable in this place. It seems personal opinions are not allowed.

Originally posted by t020
Can I just make clear that I never said it *wasn't* ok for women to drink pints? Of course they can drink whatever they like! I just offered my personal opinion on how it looks to me, that's all.

Cyclone - yes it is stereotypical, but so what?

Greenback - of course PC has relevance to this debate. Equality between genders is an issue of PC, and of course there should be complete equality in the workplace, etc, but we must also remember that men and women have differences too, one of which being masculine/feminine behaviour.

just checking.
I dislike it when I realise that i'm applying a stereotype, especially one that's founded on something ridiculous.

You are equating drinking from a large glass with feminine or masculine behaviour, and when people challenge that you've accused them of being PC.
I'd say that they aren't being PC, it's just that you see this association whereas most people don't.
So you think they are being PC, they think you are being sexists.

well ill back u on the point of it not looking good, i dont think so either. girls should drink halves or mixers or wine. pints make u burp - not pretty for a girly - but thats just my humble......."as she waits for comebacks......"

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
well ill back u on the point of it not looking good, i dont think so either. girls should drink halves or mixers or wine. pints make u burp - not pretty for a girly - but thats just my humble......."as she waits for comebacks......"

I'm starting to feel like i'm taking this thread too seriously, but I have to ask.
Why does a half not make you burp and a pint make you? Do you drink a pint faster or is some physical process i'm not aware of?

Better to buy her a pint than to keep having to go back to the bar for halves.

And they tend to get pi$$ed quicker with pints. :)

Originally posted by t020
Good on you. As for "each to their own", well, that's debatable in this place. It seems personal opinions are not allowed.

Having seen this thread and posted a couple of times (mostly on the civil libertarians side I might add) I've actually reconsidered my opinion - mainly because I've applied it to my own circumstances. I know for a fact my girlfriend would never drink a pint for the following reasons:
1) She doesn't like beer.
2) She doesn't like pint glasses (the reason we have small glasses with frogs and fairies on them at home)
3) She doesn't have hands big enough to fit around the glass.

But that's an opinion applied to my own circumstances. I know my girlfriend would never drink from one so perhaps that's why I initially thought "each to their own... let her do what she wants". However, if I ever were to go out with another woman (perish the thought!) would I want her to drink pints?

Probably not actually. But why I hear you cry?

The women I've known who drunk pints were butch, manly beer monsters that belch and are not ladylike in the slightest- not exactly my type or at all attractive. That's not to say that I object to any woman wanting to drink a pint- just not the one I'm attached too.
I myself don't like beer either (I'm a wine fanatic!) so you won't catch me drinking a pint either. So it's not really a case of me being a male biggot incensed by women trying to encroach on 'my pint drinking' - it's just something I've never really related to myself!

Originally posted by Cyclone
I'm starting to feel like i'm taking this thread too seriously, but I have to ask.
Why does a half not make you burp and a pint make you? Do you drink a pint faster or is some physical process i'm not aware of?

She probably tries to keep up with the lads, there fore where normally she drinks a half to every pint, she is drinking pints to every pint,

Hence buuuurrrrpppp :thumbsup:

Originally posted by JonJParr
Having seen this thread and posted a couple of times (mostly on the civil libertarians side I might add) I've actually reconsidered my opinion - mainly because I've applied it to my own circumstances. I know for a fact my girlfriend would never drink a pint for the following reasons:
1) She doesn't like beer.
2) She doesn't like pint glasses (the reason we have small glasses with frogs and fairies on them at home)
3) She doesn't have hands big enough to fit around the glass.

But that's an opinion applied to my own circumstances. I know my girlfriend would never drink from one so perhaps that's why I initially thought "each to their own... let her do what she wants". However, if I ever were to go out with another woman (perish the thought!) would I want her to drink pints?

Probably not actually. But why I hear you cry?

The women I've known who drunk pints were butch, manly beer monsters that belch and are not ladylike in the slightest- not exactly my type or at all attractive. That's not to say that I object to any woman wanting to drink a pint- just not the one I'm attached too. Does that make sense?

Wow, you've never seen a girl drinking a pint that's not attractive?

Originally posted by t020
Greenback - of course PC has relevance to this debate. Equality between genders is an issue of PC, and of course there should be complete equality in the workplace, etc, but we must also remember that men and women have differences too, one of which being masculine/feminine behaviour.

Live and let live, I suppose (oh, hang on - is that a bit too PC?) ;)

I've seen many a foxy lady supping a pint of bitter. I've also seen many a female bearer of a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp sipping gently on a spritzer. And vice versa.

I dont see what everyone is so upset about, its not like we trying to ban women from drinking pints. All we saying is that to us it looks unfeminen, it doesent stop women doing it.

it probably upset any of the pint drinking women on this thread when you pretty much said that they were getting fat, went to the gym to pose and applied makeup with a trowel.
Roy probably upset them when he accused them of vomitting in doorways and flashing their knickers.

Each to their own, or live and let live generally means not being judgemental about other peoples choices (not opinions, we can argue about those) and not stereotyping people.
At the very least stereotyping leads to offending the people who've you categorised and don't fit in that category. Hence people getting upset.
Me, I just have too much time on my hands and find this an interesting discussion about attitudes. I could have probably predicted the positions for the regular posters on this thread though and saved us the troulbe of actually talking about it.

Originally posted by adaline
Women are getting fat, just look on the street, in the club, in a pub or in a bar. They go to gym to do a bit of swimming and look at the chrome of the pull-up bar, just to satisfy themselves with the fact that they go to gym. Not all the women though, some you see in the gym running, crunching and doing weights with the guys - these are the ones that look great, (probably) feel great and all the guys are looking at. Its not just that they look astonishing its the fact that they have their head screwed on proper and have self-control and determination to see things through. And women wonder why guys never check them out in their high heels and miniskirts and a ton of blush with a thick layer of shocking red lipstick.
This is not just about physical image, it’s the new mindset, women have the freedom to do whatever they want and instead of being something good the get ****** of pints and walk around the streets dressed like slags shouting abusive remarks. This don’t bother me, drink what you like and how you like, but you’re not going to get the respect you want, same would go for guys who do the same thing.
Lol I’m sure you’ll all think I’m a sexist *******, but no. I’m not even sure if I mean al the thing I’ve said, this is just an attempt to explain MY feeling towards the topic.

Originally posted by Cyclone
Each to their own, or live and let live generally means not being judgemental about other peoples choices (not opinions, we can argue about those) and not stereotyping people.
At the very least stereotyping leads to offending the people who've you categorised and don't fit in that category. Hence people getting upset.

Trouble is the stereotype is quite often true. Everytime I drive down West St on a Friday / Saturday night I see a host of said ladies doing exactly that! For those of us who don't get blind drunk every weekend and vomit all over the street aren't we well within our 'liberties' to question such uncivilised behaviour?

Originally posted by Cyclone
I could have probably predicted the positions for the regular posters on this thread though and saved us the troulbe of actually talking about it.

Which in itself would be stereotyping.

Its some constructive critisism :D
And dont forget to read the last sentence.

Originally posted by JonJParr
Trouble is the stereotype is quite often true. Everytime I drive down West St on a Friday / Saturday night I see a host of said ladies doing exactly that! For those of us who don't get blind drunk every weekend and vomit all over the street aren't we well within our 'liberties' to question such uncivilised behaviour?



Which in itself would be stereotyping.

driving down west street tells you whether those particular girls were drinking pints or not? You're confusing two different things.

It's certainly not stereotyping. I claimed that i could predict the position on this issue that certain users have taken, I'm basing in that on the positions they've taken before on other issues.
If i'd said I could predict it based on their postcode, or whether they wore shoes or trainers to work, then it would be stereotyping.

Originally posted by adaline
I dont see what everyone is so upset about, its not like we trying to ban women from drinking pints. All we saying is that to us it looks unfeminen, it doesent stop women doing it.

No, we're not allowed to have opinions.

Originally posted by JonJParr

The women I've known who drunk pints were butch, manly beer monsters that belch and are not ladylike in the slightest- not exactly my type or at all attractive. That's not to say that I object to any woman wanting to drink a pint- just not the one I'm attached too.
I myself don't like beer either (I'm a wine fanatic!) so you won't catch me drinking a pint either. So it's not really a case of me being a male biggot incensed by women trying to encroach on 'my pint drinking' - it's just something I've never really related to myself!

All very well said.

Why are some people having such difficulty accepting that a portion of men (and women) don't think it's feminine for women to drink pints? No-one is saying "ban drinking from pints for females", they're just (as requested) expressing honest opinions.

Originally posted by t020
No, we're not allowed to have opinions.
Apologies, apologies.

Originally posted by Greenback
Live and let live, I suppose (oh, hang on - is that a bit too PC?) ;)


Nobody isn't doing. Holding a negative opinion about something doesn't stop other people from doing it.

PS. Roy is still awaiting a proper answer from you in the BNP thread. ;)

Originally posted by Cyclone
driving down west street tells you whether those particular girls were drinking pints or not? You're confusing two different things.

It's certainly not stereotyping. I claimed that i could predict the position on this issue that certain users have taken, I'm basing in that on the positions they've taken before on other issues.
If i'd said I could predict it based on their postcode, or whether they wore shoes or trainers to work, then it would be stereotyping.

So it's more of a prejudice then? A prejudgement?

Originally posted by JonJParr
So it's more of a prejudice then? A prejudgement?

a prediction based on previously observed political attitudes.
I'd be happy to be surprised by any of them, but I won't hold my breath.

I'm sure they'd have been capable of predicting my take on the issue as well, and it wouldn't offend me at all.

It's offensive when assumptions about a person are drawn based on a (generally) unrelated piece of data.

I was hoping to give you an example using your location, but it's not filled in. I'm sure you can see though, looking at where someone lives and making some assumption about the person is likely to be wrong or at best not entirely accurate and could well offend the person. Whereas making a prediction based on past behaviour is more likely to be accurate and not likely to offend anyone.

Originally posted by t020
Nobody isn't doing. Holding a negative opinion about something doesn't stop other people from doing it.

PS. Roy is still awaiting a proper answer from you in the BNP thread. ;)

I don't understand the first bit - as to the second, I didn't realise Roy was hanging on waiting for me to respond. I'll get to it!

Originally posted by t020
All very well said.

Why are some people having such difficulty accepting that a portion of men (and women) don't think it's feminine for women to drink pints? No-one is saying "ban drinking from pints for females", they're just (as requested) expressing honest opinions.

It really wouldn't bother me in the slightest if they decided to start drinking beer out of wellington boots.

I'm sure I could learn to find that attractive given time.

Well not having read through this entire mammoth thread I personally say it's fine for women to drink pints.
I dont particularly see it as unladylike - it doesn't make them a slag or otherwise.

Anyway what do folks make of this beauty drinking a pint then: Click Me - Click Me (http://www.free-inbox.co.uk/pint.jpg).

Feel free to post your thoughts - the person in question could be watching right now ;)

How did this thread get so big in just 2 days? :o

I love to see a girl drinking pints.

I think it had something to do with those damn PC lefties again. At least that's what we were led to believe within the thread.

I haven't time to read the whole thread, but anyone who TRULY understands the joy of a good pint would not deny one to any person :)

I think maybe I should have split the poll into more sections, to find out men who think it is ok/not ok and women who think it is ok/not ok, and compare!

Sidla, I have absolutely no idea how this thread got so big in two days either! I'm not getting involved in the argument anymore though, it's too stressfull (and besides, can't hang around here all night, I have a pint to drink and then disgrace myself with my 'unfemanine' behaviour :wink: )

Originally posted by beckyaa
(and besides, can't hang around here all night, I have a pint to drink and then disgrace myself with my 'unfemanine' behaviour :wink: )

I'll drink to that!

Originally posted by Cyclone
a prediction based on previously observed political attitudes.
I'd be happy to be surprised by any of them, but I won't hold my breath.

I'm sure they'd have been capable of predicting my take on the issue as well, and it wouldn't offend me at all.

It's offensive when assumptions about a person are drawn based on a (generally) unrelated piece of data.

I was hoping to give you an example using your location, but it's not filled in. I'm sure you can see though, looking at where someone lives and making some assumption about the person is likely to be wrong or at best not entirely accurate and could well offend the person. Whereas making a prediction based on past behaviour is more likely to be accurate and not likely to offend anyone.


Is this the same unprejudiced Cyclone that found himself feeling so much better than everyone else after a trip to Burger King? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=144018#post144018)

The same Cyclone who admitted to making prejudiced judgements based on whether someone wears a track suit?!

It seems weird to care what someone else drinks to be honest. It doesnt bother me at all really. Though I know few women who drink pints. They seem to go for half pints and then buy lots of them. Why not just buy pints - less trips to the bar isnt it?

Originally posted by face
It seems weird to care what someone else drinks to be honest. It doesnt bother me at all really. Though I know few women who drink pints. They seem to go for half pints and then buy lots of them. Why not just buy pints - less trips to the bar isnt it?

Because they don't want to look unfeminine.

I never claimed to be perfect, you'll notice that in the thread you've linked too I never went and dug up any of your past threads in order to divert attention from myself though ;)

I'm sure you'll be off looking for the thread now in which I claimed to be perfect.

indeed to quote myself from that thread, I didn't single out any factor that i used to prejudge someone, I said that there were a number of factors which were indicators.

Things that make me notice a person as different can be many and varied. Dress, shell suits, track suits (unless in a gym), personal hygiene (actually that's a big one). A vacant expression and inability to respond sensibly to any question, random swearing (another big one), and also things that are really just an indication of income (a prejudice, damn my leathery hide), for example getting a cab from the supermarket...

I certainly didn't make a sweeping generalisation like you did.

Originally posted by t020
Is this the same unprejudiced Cyclone that found himself feeling so much better than everyone else after a trip to Burger King? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=144018#post144018)

The same Cyclone who admitted to making prejudiced judgements based on whether someone wears a track suit?!

Originally posted by t020
Because they don't want to look unfeminine.

did I ask already, why does a pint make a woman look unfeminine?

Well I'll ask again for the benefit of t020 and anyone else who wishes to comment.
This is a very (http://www.free-inbox.co.uk/pint.jpg) close friend of mine who I've known for years and years ;) who happens to be drinking a pint in this pic.

Now what's your opinion? Does it make her look unfeminine?
Would this knock out in this picture really stop you from checking her out just because she's drinking a pint ;)

;) i don't mind women drinking from pint pots,what i do dislike is the lipstick left on the glass and have you noticed the majority are seen drinking lager :confused:

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Well I'll ask again for the benefit of t020 and anyone else who wishes to comment.
This is a very (http://www.free-inbox.co.uk/pint.jpg) close friend of mine who I've known for years and years ;) who happens to be drinking a pint in this pic.

Now what's your opinion? Does it make her look unfeminine?
Would this knock out in this picture really stop you from checking her out just because she's drinking a pint ;)

She's well fit. AND very femenine. Its a shame I can't find any of the Mel Sykes Boddies adds, or subsequent models used in that campaign.

Originally posted by kilauea
She's well fit. AND very femenine. Its a shame I can't find any of the Mel Sykes Boddies adds, or subsequent models used in that campaign.

:thumbsup: yes well fit,mmmm forgot about the boddies adds :heyhey:

I don't think the people on either sides of this argument are going to change their minds based on a well-written posting on the subject. Instead of attacking each other (and thereby embarassing yourselves) why not "agree to disagree", as it were.

People are entitled to think that a woman drinking a pint is not attractive and to them "unfeminine". Equally, other people are entitled to think that a woman looks sexy and attractive drinking a pint. I don't think it's a question of whether people think women should drink pints, it's become a question of whether they find it unattractive or indeed an 'endearing quality' indicating it's all about personal taste.

Turning the debate into a flame war only serves to detract from the issue at hand.

Originally posted by JonJParr
I don't think the people on either sides of this argument are going to change their minds based on a well-written posting on the subject. Instead of attacking each other (and thereby embarassing yourselves) why not "agree to disagree", as it were.

People are entitled to think that a woman drinking a pint is not attractive and to them "unfeminine". Equally, other people are entitled to think that a woman looks sexy and attractive drinking a pint. I don't think it's a question of whether people think women should drink pints, it's become a question of whether they find it unattractive or indeed an 'endearing quality' indicating it's all about personal taste.

Turning the debate into a flame war only serves to detract from the issue at hand.


Well said. I'll agree to disagree on this one - I've said pretty much the same thing several times before in this thread: it IS an entirely subjective issue and so arguing about it is pointless.

Originally posted by DaBouncer
This is a very (http://www.free-inbox.co.uk/pint.jpg) close friend of mine who I've known for years and years ;) who happens to be drinking a pint in this pic.

Now what's your opinion? Does it make her look unfeminine?
Would this knock out in this picture really stop you from checking her out just because she's drinking a pint ;)
Do you have her number? ;)

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Well I'll ask again for the benefit of t020 and anyone else who wishes to comment.
This is a very (http://www.free-inbox.co.uk/pint.jpg) close friend of mine who I've known for years and years ;) who happens to be drinking a pint in this pic.

Now what's your opinion? Does it make her look unfeminine?
Would this knock out in this picture really stop you from checking her out just because she's drinking a pint ;)

As I said in an earlier post in this thread, certain ladies look really classy, even sexy when drinking pints.

Your friend certainly has the knack.

Wow!

(incidentally, how do you upload pics onto the forum?)

Originally posted by Sidla
Do you have her number? ;)
Ah now that would be telling ;)
However I know for a fact she checks out the forum from time to time and will appreciate you asking :P

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
As I said in an earlier post in this thread, certain ladies look really classy, even sexy when drinking pints.

Your friend certainly has the knack.

Wow!
Wow indeed - I've always thought so myself.
She's definately the classier end of the female pint drinkers of this world ;)
Originally posted by Sam Miguel
(incidentally, how do you upload pics onto the forum?)
I have my own web space (well my own server actually) so I just upload the pics to that then point the URL to the said picture.

There are free places where you can upload them on the web if you look.

Originally posted by Cyclone
I'm starting to feel like i'm taking this thread too seriously, but I have to ask.
Why does a half not make you burp and a pint make you? Do you drink a pint faster or is some physical process i'm not aware of?
just looks better than holding a pint glass. if u really really have to drink lager, have a half:D
unless its a top shelf pint then thats ok :hihi:

Thanks, DAB. I see what you mean now.

Actually I'm sure I've seen her before DaBouncer, that pic is strangely familiar to me, and I've a feeling I may know her!

Small world huh!!?

Hmmm ... maybe I'm mistaken tho.

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
just looks better than holding a pint glass. if u really really have to drink lager, have a half:D
unless its a top shelf pint then thats ok :hihi:

it's the burping i'm interested in, why would a pint cause it and 2 halves not do?

Originally posted by Jamie
Actually I'm sure I've seen her before DaBouncer, that pic is strangely familiar to me, and I've a feeling I may know her!

Small world huh!!?

Hmmm ... maybe I'm mistaken tho.
It is a small world Jamie - I will have to check with her if she indeed knows you matey :thumbsup:

Originally posted by DaBouncer
It is a small world Jamie - I will have to check with her if she indeed knows you matey :thumbsup:

It's only a vaugue feeling ... so I may well be wrong !!

(not just making this all up to get her number - honest)

Originally posted by Jamie
It's only a vaugue feeling ... so I may well be wrong !!

(not just making this all up to get her number - honest)
I think she'd kill me if I gave anyone on here her contact details to be honest, so no danger of that Jamie.

:D

The trouble now is the femakes think they can match the men when it comes to boozing and they cant.
You have to laugh at them when you see them sprawled out on the floor,so ladylike NOT.

Females even lol
But seriously they do look really stupid when they are like that.

But seriously they do look really stupid when they are like that.

As do men when they've had too much - whether they drink it in pint or half pint glasses is irrelevant :)

Originally posted by royjames
The trouble now is the femakes think they can match the men when it comes to boozing and they cant.
You have to laugh at them when you see them sprawled out on the floor,so ladylike NOT.

I think the word you are missing here Roy is SOME . As in SOME women think they can match SOME men. SOME people laugh when SOME of these women are sprawled out on the floor.

In my opinion, not many women have any great desire to try and keep up with men. I go to the pub with male and female friends and drink what I like in whatever quantity I like, but not to the point where I am sprawled out on the floor.

I do laugh, however, at some of the men (who according to you can drink so much more than some women) who are sprawled out on the floor looking oh-so manly.

Well said, beckyaa!

Royjames in my pubbing experience, (which is extensive!!) generally those women (and men!) who end up legless and vomiting tend to be downing shots not enjoying a pint. Its far easier to get ill from the sickeningly sweet alcopops and neon coloured shots than it is from a pint of ale.

Certainly I love a pint of beer, however, bitter tends to make me more tired and giggly than rowdy and vomiting.

And saying that men can hold their beer and women can't is just ridiculous. What is the ratio of women:men scrapping in the street at the end of a night out?

(You know we could settle this with a good old fashioned drinking contest but I wouldn't want to embarress you!)

hear, hear

Id just like to add im no alcoholic but I out drink my mister everytime we go out.
Its mainly due to the fact that he insists on power drinking with his mates for the first five or six in an hour or so, then usually collapes in a heap while I carry on at my own speed for the rest of the night.
Usually having consumed lots more but spread over the whole night.
I have alway drunk pints, probably due to coming from a pit village. Saves having to fight to the bar so many times.

I think it's fine for women to drink pints - especially if they're trying to cultivate a Janice Battersby image ;)

Originally posted by brummy_tracy
hear, hear

Id just like to add im no alcoholic but I out drink my mister everytime we go out.
Its mainly due to the fact that he insists on power drinking with his mates for the first five or six in an hour or so, then usually collapes in a heap while I carry on at my own speed for the rest of the night.
Usually having consumed lots more but spread over the whole night.
I have alway drunk pints, probably due to coming from a pit village. Saves having to fight to the bar so many times.

What a vivid, ladylike image you conjure up :D

Originally posted by mojoworking
I think it's fine for women to drink pints - especially if they're trying to cultivate a Janice Battersby image ;)

:hihi: Precisely.

Originally posted by kathythebean
Certainly I love a pint of beer, however, bitter tends to make me more tired and giggly than rowdy and vomiting.

This is because ale is made from hops, which are cannabinacae - and the part of the plant used is the sticky resinous flowering tops....

Ale is mellow. :D

Alcopops, spirits etc, contain sugar, caffeine, b vitamins and god knows what sort of carcino-tastic additives.

Originally posted by t020
:hihi: Precisely.

But like you have been at pains to point out - it is all about individuals and how they see it.
I have no clue to Ms Battersby is, but I doubt she is the svelt Mel Sykes type of Boddies drinker?

Either way, I think some of you fella's should get out of your village more and update your view of the world. If you see Women drinking pints as unfemenine then nobody can convince you that it isn't - but you do have to ask exactly where and how you were brought up with that view?

Originally posted by mojoworking
I think it's fine for women to drink pints - especially if they're trying to cultivate a Janice Battersby image ;)

Actually I think of myself as more of one of the lads, been bought up surrounded by them.
I find my male friends can talk to me and give me respect.
Yes I drink pints shoot me!

Guess what job I do? lets see how people can be typecast by what you drink.

Originally posted by brummy_tracy

Guess what job I do? lets see how people can be typecast by what you drink.


metal basher from birmingham perhaps :confused:

I think its is totelly okay for a woman to drink a pint come on lads if half ever enough for u ?
you get a pint and the 1st half always goes down in the 1st sip so why spend far more many trips to the bar , when you can drink pints and half the trips .

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
This is because ale is made from hops, which are cannabinacae - and the part of the plant used is the sticky resinous flowering tops....
Now then Phan, did I once read that you can graft a hop plant onto cannabis sativa root stock and create a special type of hop flower? Or is this a myth?

There's not much point in arguing whether women or men can drink more.
Whilst there will always be exceptions, on average men can drink more, and this is due to several reasons.

Remember, on average.

Greater body mass, on average men are simply bigger than women.
An extra enzyme in the stomach of men that starts to break down alcohol immediately, women don't have this, it's genetic.

Originally posted by brummy_tracy
Actually I think of myself as more of one of the lads, been bought up surrounded by them.
I find my male friends can talk to me and give me respect.
Yes I drink pints shoot me!

Guess what job I do? lets see how people can be typecast by what you drink.

Sheetmetal worker, perhaps? Nightclub bouncer? Or maybe Biffa Bacon's mutha?

Originally posted by fridgeman
metal basher from birmingham perhaps :confused:

Not quite!
Im the Design and IT manager for a multi million pound company, that happens to drink pints. but you were close.

Originally posted by brummy_tracy
Not quite!
Im the Design and IT manager for a multi million pound company, that happens to drink pints. but you were close.

I don't believe you, and even if I did, I still wouldn't believe you.

Originally posted by kilauea
But like you have been at pains to point out - it is all about individuals and how they see it.
I have no clue to Ms Battersby is, but I doubt she is the svelt Mel Sykes type of Boddies drinker?


It is about how individuals see it - and I obviously see it the same way as mojo, so agreed with him. Hardly rocket science...

Ok...picture this...I'm in a pub, I'm young and attractive and nicely dressed, well spoken and polite..but oh no, what have i done!? I've gone and bought...dun dun dunnn...a PINT! Oh no, I'm transforming into janice battersby! Oh no, my face is melting and my hips are bulging out and my hair has gone all frizzy! Where the hell has this manc accent come from!? Should have stuck with the G + T!! Now no-one will ever fancy me, and by the time I reach the bottom of this glass, I'll be vomiting in a doorway and lying on the ground, and royjames will be laughing at me!

Its ridiculous, isnt it...its a measure of liquid! Half pint, pint, thimble, it surely doesn't matter. I bet your type were against us wearing trousers, and voting, and being able to get a divorce, and being able to own property..

Hasn't this dead horse been flogged enough? Exchanging insults and witty retorts will not change the resolve of either sides of this debate. Why not just "agree to disagree" and thus show respect for each others view?

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
I don't believe you, and even if I did, I still wouldn't believe you.

Hush or ill poke you in your bad arm.
I dont tell fibs its pointless.
Its only a 2.5 million per annum company if that makes you feel better.

Originally posted by kathythebean
Ok...picture this...I'm in a pub, I'm young and attractive and nicely dressed, well spoken and polite..but oh no, what have i done!? I've gone and bought...dun dun dunnn...a PINT! Oh no, I'm transforming into janice battersby! Oh no, my face is melting and my hips are bulging out and my hair has gone all frizzy! Where the hell has this manc accent come from!? Should have stuck with the G + T!! Now no-one will ever fancy me, and by the time I reach the bottom of this glass, I'll be vomiting in a doorway and lying on the ground, and royjames will be laughing at me!

Its ridiculous, isnt it...its a measure of liquid! Half pint, pint, thimble, it surely doesn't matter. I bet your type were against us wearing trousers, and voting, and being able to get a divorce, and being able to own property..

I think that Roy is trying to explain that you should never have been allowed out in public, let alone off the leash. Voting? Ha, Roy doesn't like that either. If you're gay or non white, then you're really screwed. Luckily Roy doesn't have much say.

Of course this is just my opinion and not fact.

LOL.

I was only joking, I do believe you really.

Actually, you might as well bash my arm about a bit, just to go with the knocks I keep giving it.

I don't see what the big deal is...a pints only a from of measurement anway...all depends how big your hands are

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
LOL.

I was only joking, I do believe you really.

Actually, you might as well bash my arm about a bit, just to go with the knocks I keep giving it.

I do hope its not your drinkin arm, you might have to start drinking halves. har har

That's a good topic: 'is it OK for men to drink halves?'

One of my male mates only ever drinks halves, he has it in his mind he isnt drinking as much??
Only problem is he drinks twice as many?

Do you go out drinking together?

I was just trying to picture you both: you with a pint and him with a half.

Actually, halves would be no good to me. I am too much of a guzzlegob.

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
Do you go out drinking together?

I was just trying to picture you both: you with a pint and him with a half.

Actually, halves would be no good to me. I am too much of a guzzlegob.

Usually out in a crowd when he is, keep trying to tell him hes not drinking less just using more glasses.
The daftest part is he even buys two halves when he gets a round in?? mind you he is blond

Guzzlegob :) that made me laugh out loud

Can you get san miguel on draught?

Also JonJParr my post wasnt meant to offend just to get a laff, I have lots of respect for other peoples views :)

Originally posted by kathythebean
Guzzlegob :) that made me laugh out loud

Can you get san miguel on draught?

Yes, San Miguel is sold on draught in the Devonshire Cat I believe.

The bottled variety is nicer, though.

Have you tried budweiser on draught? They sell it at the union, I can't decide whether it tastes nice or not (the fact its 2 pound 50 gives it a sort of sour taste!)

They used to sell draught Budweiser at The Earl Marshall on East Bank Road. I much prefer bottled Bud, though.

Originally posted by Strix
Wandering a bit off topic, but related to my earlier post....

Anybody drinking pints with a restaurant meal? :confused:
('cept curry, of course!)

I do.

I always drink pints, whatever the occasion.

I never drink pints with a meal, I think it's somewhat uncouth. I always either have wine or an orange if driving.

Originally posted by Rich
I do.

I always drink pints, whatever the occasion.

Even when taking Holy Communion? :)

Originally posted by Cyclone
it's the burping i'm interested in, why would a pint cause it and 2 halves not do? you would be interested in the burping ur from walkley! (on the razz in hills!);)

Originally posted by t020
I think it's somewhat uncouth.
LMAO, you're such a snob!

I don't drink pints with meals, it makes you feel bloated.

Budweiser is very nice from a tap, nicer than from bottles. They sell it at my local.

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
you would be interested in the burping ur from walkley! (on the razz in hills!);)

I'm not from Walkley, I live there.

I don't really drink beer/lager.

I usually drink bacardi or malibu and coke if I'm on a night out.

I find it hard to drink from bottles unless I have a straw in it!

If I'm out having a meal or at home I'll usually have a glass of red but I have been known to drink cans of stella when I was decorating my old house 2 summers ago.

The refreshing chilled taste was perfect in the hot summer sun especially with a barbecue cooking so I can't say I don't drink beer at all, can I? :D

After reading this poll, i caused offence to a bar man on ordering a pint, what happend was I said 'can I have a pint of stella and lime'....he said 'you want a pint?' so I said 'why do you think beacuse I am a women I should not drink a pint!' laughing..

he goes....
'I was only checking I got the order right' mmmmmmmmm
was he though???

I used to love being a bar maid because every now and then you would get a big group of lads (especially working at the union), and one of them would offer to get a round in, and bellow "ten pints love" then lean over and whisper "can I have one lager top too please"...

If they were friendly I would slip them lemonade in one of the pints and slyly point out which one it was. On the odd occasion of some meanie asking for one I would point and bellow "THATS YOURS, THE LAGER TOP, WITH THE LEMONADE IN IT".

When you're on minimum wage, its the small victories that count :)

They discussed the new third-of-a-pint glasses "for the ladies" on Radion 4's News Quiz yesterday. Linda Smith mentioned that when she was at univeristy in Sheffield she got fed up of buying beers and being asked "is it for you? Then you'll be wanting it in a lady's glass".

At the risk of sounding too girly to live - I always liked having a "lady's" glass ... it was like a water glass, a curved half pint with a foot on, or on rare occasions a large wine glass ... i remember I used to feel a little aggrieved if given a cider or shandy in a half pint "man's glass" in the more down-market pubs.

I don't agree with the subjective opinions of drinking pints being unfeminine and unrefined of course but in general a woman's hands and face are too small for a pint glass.

... although there is the cuteness factor, like wearing a man's shirt or sweater that's miles too big and theorectically makes you look smaller and sweeter ;)

Sits back and waits to be contradicted ....