Sorry, I've not been on the forum for a while, but I was prompted by the cruel killing of a cat to gauge the strength of feeling. I was appalled to say the least.

What this has actually happened? Or are you talking hypothetically?

K x

It happened in Barnsely, I believe, and was reported this last week.

Many folks on here know that I value my cats more than some of the humans I've known, and this made me tearful and angry in that order.

I cannot even imagine how someone could even conceive of the idea. If ever there were a couple of people who I would consider to be a waste of oxygen, food and life then the sick ****wits who did this would fall in to that category.

:(

Joe

I hadn't heard about this, it seems as of some people's cruelty to animals knows no bounds, let's hope that the Magistrates give them more than a stern talking dressing down, but I doubt it.


Joe get the old avatar back this one is harsh on the eye (the other wasn't pretty..lol) and is migraine inducing.

Sorry owdlad,

After numerous people commenting that I don't look like my picture anymore I thought 'Time for a change'.....

Many moons ago I wrote a book on Fractals and this is an image of a Fractal called a Mandelbrot set.

It could be worse, trust me! :)

Joe

no stuffing I suppose for the cat ?

I read the story and think it's absolutely disgusting. I will never be able to understand how anyone could act so cruely and have such little respect for another living being. The story left me feeling shocked and quite upset.

Owdlad - unfortunately, one of the scum involved got something like 126 days - should be much more IMO. The other scum is yet to be sentenced, AFAIK.

Internetowl - I wondered how long it would take for someone to chip in with a sick joke. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by JoePritchard
Sorry owdlad,

After numerous people commenting that I don't look like my picture anymore I thought 'Time for a change'.....

Many moons ago I wrote a book on Fractals and this is an image of a Fractal called a Mandelbrot set.

It could be worse, trust me! :)

Joe

Thanks Joe, it sure makes irregular shapes...mostly on my eyeballs... ;)

according to the report in the newspaper, the **** who did this has already had convictions/been known to the authorities as having committed prior acts of cruelty against animals.

I am appalled at this person's cruelty. dear god! what a sick and twisted mind, to have done something as apalling as this.

as I understand it, he has been convicted, now, and sentenced.

Personally, i would have thought up a just and fitting punishment for him, something involving him being completely immobilised, and his sensitive areas being coated with,say, fish paste, or something equally tempting to felines...
and I would have set a pack of cats on him.... (but that's just me, being cruel mwah-hah-hah) (can you tell i watched csi NY last night?)

I would tear someone limb from limb if they harmed my pets.

BTW, joe,

sod what has been said about your pic.... I din't think there was owt up with it... it was only certain elements that were griping about it. and i am not sure that their comments had a lot of a) validity, and b) sense, anyway.

PT

Originally posted by GrahamY
the cruel killing of a cat to gauge the strength of feeling. I was appalled to say the least.


me too.
the moron got a piffling sentence too....he probably started crying whilst in court and the stupid judge took pity on him. Perhaps if it had been the judges cat he would have got a couple of years?
I stopped reading the paper when it said his lawyer had pointed out that despite many previous offences he had never been violent....and was it his mum who said he wouldnt harm a spider? His lawyer also said that he was so drunk he couldnt remember what he had done - yeah, right, that was convenient, what a t##t.
The boundaries of cruelty never cease to amaze me - what kind of world have i brought my kids in to?




:mad: :loopy: :cry:

Internetowl - I wondered how long it would take for someone to chip in with a sick joke. :rolleyes:

Glad to oblige - I'd write to points of view if I were you :)

Poor kitty!

I don't know why the authorities (here in the US as well) don't take animal cruelty more seriously. I read somewhere that many serial killers start out by abusing and killing animals...before they move on to people.

:) Sierra

A sick, depraved ******* like this ought to be put down IMO:loopy:

Story here. (http://www.barnsleytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=86&ArticleID=938877)

Another version http://tinyurl.com/5a88m

I'm sure I remember a film that this happened in? About and old man who used to be in the SS, and his teenage neighbour who was blackmailing him?

It made me feel sick when it happened in a film, I can not believe it has actually happened. I hope he will never, ever be allowed near animals or children ever again. Or, come to think of it, other people in general.

Originally posted by Internetowl
no stuffing I suppose for the cat ?

Absolutely not funny. Wierdo!

Another example of how selfish humans are. They dont believe the life of a cat is worth that of a human. Why the hell not? They roam the earth like we do and they cause a hell of a lot less damage to it. Someone just thought they could use this life for a bit of a laugh at a cheap teenage party. I cant believe people like this exist - actually - after spending a few hours at the UGC cinema I can! Id like to find a big oven and shove him in it. im sure the vigilantes of barnsley will sort him out when hes out in a couple of weeks.

What punishment fits this sort of crime?
I'd make darn sure the person involved was never allowed to keep a pet of any description and if that means every now and then the police kicking his door down and trashing his house then fine. I'd also of given him a fine that he'd still be paying off in ten years on, and if he doesn't pay up then put him in shackles and send him out digging ditches. Put pictures of him up all over his town and make it clear he's not going to be served in a shop, a pub or anywhere else, make him suffer and keep on suffering.

There are indeed some weirdos out there. If they had cut the cats neck and then made a cat stew, would that have been illegal ?

I cannot believe the cruelty displayed in this case.

Why is being drunk supposed to be an excuse for anything?

I'm going to get strips torn off me for this, but I think cats deserve the same care we now give dogs.

Dogs were once allowed to roam the streets and fend for themselves, but we now regard such treatment as 'cruel'. I'm looking forward to the day when cats are given the same respect as our pooches and not slung out on the streets to be exposed to such dangers.

Originally posted by rtapper
There are indeed some weirdos out there. If they had cut the cats neck and then made a cat stew, would that have been illegal ?

Yes.

And let's hope the 17 year old gets the same sentence........sharing a cell with 'Big Balls' Bubba, the cat lover.

I think the sentence is appallingly short. In probably less than 100 days the evil person will be out of prison and probably doing the same thing again. Unless he decides to move on to killing a child next time.... I wonder how the judge will feel if that happens.

Originally posted by markham
And let's hope the 17 year old gets the same sentence........sharing a cell with 'Big Balls' Bubba, the cat lover.

bubbas sharing a cell with a local graffitti artist:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

seriously tho i hope this scumbag gets a bit of instant justice in jail or failing that a visit from the local branch of the ALF will pay him a visit in the not too distant future

Originally posted by Patchy
I think the sentence is appallingly short. In probably less than 100 days the evil person will be out of prison and probably doing the same thing again. Unless he decides to move on to killing a child next time.... I wonder how the judge will feel if that happens.

This is UK 2005 Patchy. He'd have to refuse to pay a speeding fine to get a bigger sentence than the one he got.

Originally posted by panda79
bubbas sharing a cell with a local graffitti artist:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:



You must be thinking of 'Paint My Cheeks' Bubba there Panda!

Originally posted by Internetowl
Glad to oblige - I'd write to points of view if I were you :)

Do you really think you are funny with this and your previous comment ?????

i prefer some ANIMALS,to some PEOPLE, what is wrong with these lowlife people.

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Personally, i would have thought up a just and fitting punishment for him, something involving him being completely immobilised, and his sensitive areas being coated with,say, fish paste, or something equally tempting to felines...
and I would have set a pack of cats on him.... (but that's just me, being cruel mwah-hah-hah) (can you tell i watched csi NY last night?)
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I realise i'm breaking the law here and going off topic, but what did you think of CSI NY ?, I thought it was ok, it will grow on me, like Miami did I think.

On the subject of cats, I realy don't like them (they trigger my asthma) but I wouldn't wish any actual harm on one, except perhaps being shaved.

Originally posted by nick2
I realise i'm breaking the law here and going off topic, but what did you think of CSI NY ?, I thought it was ok, it will grow on me, like Miami did I think.

Cant help looking at main character and thinking about Forrest Gump film !

Seems odd that slicing neck of a cat and making cat stew is illegal when you can do the same to a cow... guess its that thing about cute fluffy domesticated animals again :mad:

I guess that if we were in Thailand (or wherever) than boiling a cat alive would be considered ok.

public birching!!!!!!and ill lay odds that this scum would be the first to complain if some one gave him a slap..name and shame the s o b

Maybe this is a time when 'creative sentencing' would have been useful. Perhaps by making him work in a furnace for a couple of millenia or to have to work under watch in a pet resuce centre or on a farm, doing all the mucking out. I'm sure the RSPCA could do with someone to shovel faeces for a few years. Thereby enabling those who do care to spend more time with the animals rather than cleaning them.
Yes, I rather like that idea. If anyone hurt my cats like that it's the absolute least I'd want to see.
I sentence you to 10 years **** shovelling! (And living in a kennel).

Originally posted by rtapper
Seems odd that slicing neck of a cat and making cat stew is illegal when you can do the same to a cow... guess its that thing about cute fluffy domesticated animals again :mad:

They weren't doing it because they were hungry... they were doing it because they are sadists. Even I can see a difference, although I am a vegetarian and I don't particularly like to see it done to cows for food.

Originally posted by Patchy
They weren't doing it because they were hungry... they were doing it because they are sadists. Even I can see a difference, although I am a vegetarian and I don't particularly like to see it done to cows for food.

Also, domesticated pets can't legally be killed for food anyway.

Originally posted by t020
Also, domesticated pets can't legally be killed for food anyway.

This does seem really odd. I don't eat meat personally, but I find it strange that you can cut the head off a chicken and eat it, but not a cat... why??? because one is cute? Madness.

Originally posted by Snook
This does seem really odd. I don't eat meat personally, but I find it strange that you can cut the head off a chicken and eat it, but not a cat... why??? because one is cute? Madness.

Not really. Imagine a childs pet cat being stolen when the neighbours felt peckish.

I personally find the idea barbaric, and that applies to the way we kill any animals for food. I'm not a vegetarian but I can't stand to eat meat if it resembles what it once was! I would never do the carving. :gag:

Originally posted by t020
Not really. Imagine a childs pet cat being stolen when the neighbours felt peckish.

I personally find the idea barbaric, and that applies to the way we kill any animals for food. I'm not a vegetarian but I can't stand to eat meat if it resembles what it once was! I would never do the carving. :gag:

Point taken about the childs pet, but my point was that people do seem to have terrible double standards when it comes to what they are willing to eat. There seems no difference to me in eating a cat or a chicken. They are both living things that have been killed for our pleasure. I'm not preaching about not eating meat here by the way, each to their own, its just the double standard that gets me.

All animals will kill for food including humans. This 'guy' coaxed a cat into an oven and cooked it purely for a laugh. He wasnt getting anything out of it other than for his sick mates to laugh at him and him to feel good. Surely theres a difference?

Originally posted by kittykat
All animals will kill for food including humans. This 'guy' coaxed a cat into an oven and cooked it purely for a laugh. He wasnt getting anything out of it other than for his sick mates to laugh at him and him to feel good. Surely theres a difference?

I wasn't defending what was done in that instance, just wondering why people would be opposed to killing and cooking a cat in the same way as other animals.

Not all animals will kill for food either, a great many do not.

Sorry, all adult non-herbivores, parasites that dont kill hosts or vultures and who have the capability to kill - still a lot.

Originally posted by rtapper
Seems odd that slicing neck of a cat and making cat stew is illegal when you can do the same to a cow... guess its that thing about cute fluffy domesticated animals again :mad:
Lobsters are boiled alive aren't they?:confused:

Originally posted by Snook
I wasn't defending what was done in that instance, just wondering why people would be opposed to killing and cooking a cat in the same way as other animals.

Not all animals will kill for food either, a great many do not.
Cats kill the little birds in my garden for fun, I've seen them :(

Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
Lobsters are boiled alive aren't they?:confused:

Yes, but you put them in the fridge first to make them drowsy, it's not quite as cruel that way, though you do still feel guilty about doing it, until your eating it.

Boiling a lobster alive is fairly instantaneous (I hate the idea myself nevertheless)
To slowly roast alive a mammal for fun is different.
I understand the Magistrates wanted to impose harsher sentences but couldn't becaused the maximum available doesn't amount to anything

Killing animals to eat them is just clouding the issue here.

It was cruelty, extreme cruelty.

Someone killing a cow or even a cat to eat it for food is obliged by law (and hopefully by basic decency) to kill it quickly and humanely without undue suffering.

I'm not sure how people get around that for cooking lobsters. Maybe boiling to death doesn't hurt a lobster that much???

Originally posted by Cyclone
Killing animals to eat them is just clouding the issue here.

It was cruelty, extreme cruelty.

Someone killing a cow or even a cat to eat it for food is obliged by law (and hopefully by basic decency) to kill it quickly and humanely without undue suffering.

I'm not sure how people get around that for cooking lobsters. Maybe boiling to death doesn't hurt a lobster that much???

I think cooking anything alive is deplorable and inhumane.

I always feel sad when I see live mussles being sold in shops.

It shouldn't be allowed :rant:

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
I think cooking anything alive is deplorable and inhumane.

I always feel sad when I see live mussles being sold in shops.

It shouldn't be allowed :rant:

K x

Sorry to laugh, but, mussels ? They are just bits of snot in a shell, they arn't what I'd consider inteligent and i doubt they even "know" whats going on.
Lobsters on the other hand put up one hell of a fight if you don't stun them beforehand.

Originally posted by Cyclone
Killing animals to eat them is just clouding the issue here.

It was cruelty, extreme cruelty.

Someone killing a cow or even a cat to eat it for food is obliged by law (and hopefully by basic decency) to kill it quickly and humanely without undue suffering.

I'm not sure how people get around that for cooking lobsters. Maybe boiling to death doesn't hurt a lobster that much???

Thats the second time I`ve quoted Cyclone today, but he seems to be the only person talking sense here!

Veggie or not, You do not bake a live cow before serving it!

Moral or immoral, legal or not, it is plain torture.

:rant:

Originally posted by nick2
Sorry to laugh, but, mussels ? They are just bits of snot in a shell, they arn't what I'd consider inteligent and i doubt they even "know" whats going on.
Lobsters on the other hand put up one hell of a fight if you don't stun them beforehand.

I just found this (http://www.nfkc.info/How%20do%20fish%20feel%20pain.htm) on the 'net that says creatures without brains can feel pain!

Even if they couldn't I would still feel sorry for them. :( I am very soft-hearted!

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
I just found this (http://www.nfkc.info/How%20do%20fish%20feel%20pain.htm) on the 'net that says creatures without brains can feel pain!

Even if they couldn't I would still feel sorry for them. :( I am very soft-hearted!

K x

I don't believe they "feel" pain, like higher cratures do, I think they can react to damage being caused to them, in a reflex kind of way, as can some plants, but they don't feel pain.

Originally posted by nick2
I don't believe they "feel" pain, like higher cratures do, I think they can react to damage being caused to them, in a reflex kind of way, as can some plants, but they don't feel pain.

Your reasoned argument is holding no water for me (sniff).

I still feel sorry for them. That said, I have been known to feel sorry for inanimate objects before now. :blush: I remember once seeing a little girl drop her teddy under a train at Sheffield station. I kept thinking about it all day... :(

Apologies for going off topic!

K x

I think inflicting pain and prolonged suffering upon any living creature is absolutely wrong, especially when that creature can't tell anyone what pain it is going through. I worked for the RSPCA and it broke my heart every time I witnessed the aftermath of peoples wicked and unjustified cruelty. These people should be deal with more severely, they get off too lightly:mad: :sad:

where on St Helen's Street does he live

Anyone who eats commercially produced meat supports an industry based on cruelty to animals. And its not lone acts of cruelty, but mass mechanised cruelty (or unecessary suffering, same thing IMO)

I am not a vegetarian btw.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Anyone who eats commercially produced meat supports an industry based on cruelty to animals. And its not lone acts of cruelty, but mass mechanised cruelty (or unecessary suffering, same thing IMO)

I am not a vegetarian btw.

that rather depends on your definition of cruelty. There are strict laws that have to be followed by the commercial meat industry which are supposed to safeguard the animals against cruelty.

That is true but if you measure cruelty.

Slaughtered commercial meat is conducted as humanely as financially viable (you could argue), but is still cruel.

If you can measure cruelty, what is acceptable ?

Drifting off topic here but you could include racing, hunting and fighting animals.

Quite a can of worms, I hope these boys are going to suffer from social exclusion and good beatings, but that does not help matters now does it?

Obviously a Hale &Pace fan!;)

No, seriously it is a cruel and sickening thing to do and clearly shows this man has a warped mind. If he can do that to a cat then how can we be sure he will not 'graduate' to cruelty to humans. I believe many pschopaths have a history of cruelty to animals, although usually as children.

I find it odd when people are up in arms because someone has hurt a cat or dog, but everyone thinks it's ok to poison rats, which is a very long drawn-out death for the poor little buggers.

Do you think the cuteness of an animal effects how much pain we will allow it to suffer ?

Originally posted by Cyclone
that rather depends on your definition of cruelty. There are strict laws that have to be followed by the commercial meat industry which are supposed to safeguard the animals against cruelty.

My definition of cruelty is an act that causes an animal obvious distress.

And the reality is that factory farming causes untold distress, physical and mental, to the animals involved; both during rearing and slaughter.

Baking a cat alive is an act of sadistic torture, but I am more concerned about the state of the individuals who did it, than the dead cat. I like cats, and don't like to see them tortured or killed, but I do believe that to take a moral stand, requires a similar stand on mechanised meat production in order to seem consistent.

It's a point of cognitive dissonance with me, and I suspect many other people.

Britain is often touted in the media, as being a nation of animal lovers - sadly, this only applies to domestic pets, and not other domestic or wild animals.

this person needs someone to shoot him! if we all chip in we can buy a hitman :D

i donate £100

I can't say I care much. Not that the bloke who did it isn't clearly sick or something mind. I spend a lot of time throwing bricks at the cat that keeps trying to catch the squirrels in the tree next to my bedroom. Cat's are after all complete ******** themselves. One of the few creatures including man that kills for fun and one that also enjoys the torture of its victim.
Have you ever seen one play with its victim for a while before killing it and then just leaving it to rot?

Originally posted by Phanerothyme


It's a point of cognitive dissonance with me, and I suspect many other people.


I agree, just am not quite as eloquent :suspect:

throwing bricks and cats - how sad is that :D cant you pick on anyone your own size

how many cats have you seen manage to catch a squirrel ? from my experiance they normally jump on the cat :)

Originally posted by f_g
throwing bricks and cats - how sad is that :D cant you pick on anyone your own size

how many cats have you seen manage to catch a squirrel ? from my experiance they normally jump on the cat :)

Actualy the reason for doing it is that it has already caught one. I have been watching the 2 squirrels for a while and then was made up to see a small one appear from the dray. It lasted a week.

must be an evil killer cat then, my 2 run away from them!

Originally posted by f_g
must be an evil killer cat then, my 2 run away from them!

The 2 big ones do seem to manage but cat's are excellent hunters. I have seen the same cat come through the garden with other small and not-so-small rodents and birds in its mouth.

It is no more evil than any other cat though. That's what they do.

Originally posted by kilauea
Actualy the reason for doing it is that it has already caught one. I have been watching the 2 squirrels for a while and then was made up to see a small one appear from the dray. It lasted a week.

Cats killing squirrels makes a change from birds. At least the cats are doing the birds a favour by keeping the population of these nest robbing vermin down a bit.

Originally posted by venger
Quite a can of worms,
Absolutely disgraceful! Who's been doing that? A slow death by suffocation..it makes me sick.:o
only kidding. Trying to lighten the tone ;)
Nick, rats brought us the Black Death and even these days are likely to spread Weils disease and God knows what else. They have to be controlled.

I thought rat poison wasn't actually a poison?

My understanding was that the rat eats the poison (warfarin), which is an anticoagulant. The rat then stands in something very sticky (planted by the exterminator), and when it can't get free, it chews off it's own foot. This results in death as it bleeds to death.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong!

K x

Originally posted by kilauea
Cat's are after all complete ******** themselves. One of the few creatures including man that kills for fun and one that also enjoys the torture of its victim.

Cats do not specifically 'torture' victims. They simply have never been taught how to catch and kill their prey properly. All due to them being made into pets by humans and being fed constantly every day.
They still have a genetic instinct to kill for food, they kill (or try to) and don't bother eating because they're not hungry.

I think stray and 'homeless' cats have had to use this instinct to still catch their food. And they in turn pass this down to their future generation... wether the instinct be needed or not!

I have 2 cats that go out hunting regularly, however I simply attach loud bells to their collars and they no longer catch anything...

i think it causes the blood to clot

This must be the cruelist thing I've ever read.

They should publish photos of the offenders so that everyone will recognise them and make their life hell when they are released.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Cats killing squirrels makes a change from birds. At least the cats are doing the birds a favour by keeping the population of these nest robbing vermin down a bit.

I don't think the birds welfare is on its mind judging by the amount of birds it carries around in its gob!!
I take the point though, although Squirrels at least rob nests for food not fun.

Originally posted by Ned Ludd
Nick, rats brought us the Black Death and even these days are likely to spread Weils disease and God knows what else. They have to be controlled.

Yes, but do we have to torture them to death.
I used to have a pet rat so I'm quite fond of them.

Originally posted by Kristian
I thought rat poison wasn't actually a poison?

My understanding was that the rat eats the poison (warfarin), which is an anticoagulant. The rat then stands in something very sticky (planted by the exterminator), and when it can't get free, it chews off it's own foot. This results in death as it bleeds to death.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong!

K x
Warfarin kills rats slowly through internal haemorrhaging. and its cumulative.

Some rats are now warfarin resistant, & warfarin is now often used on coronary patients instead...

At one point, some groups of rats actually developed a taste for it, preferring warfarin tainted food to normal grain. Which is pretty amazing, since they had previously thought warfarin was undetectable

they've used it for coronary patients for quite some time.

Even if we accept that the meat industry is more cruel than most people would prefer, we have at least taken steps to minimise the cruelty and indeed passed laws to ensure that people meet minimum standards. So I don't see a dichotomy in my feelings regarding the person who roasted the cat and the meat industry in general.

Originally posted by Cyclone
they've used it for coronary patients for quite some time.

Even if we accept that the meat industry is more cruel than most people would prefer, we have at least taken steps to minimise the cruelty and indeed passed laws to ensure that people meet minimum standards. So I don't see a dichotomy in my feelings regarding the person who roasted the cat and the meat industry in general.

I really think that the meat industry is more than simply "more cruel than most people would prefer".

I think the lack of concern over this matter is because relatively few people really have any idea (or thought) about the origins of the red stuff in the supermarket..

Intensive factory farming of livestock is atrociously cruel, even in this country where strict laws are meant to prevent pain suffering and casual abuse.

For me the most shocking thing about the meat industry is the sheer scale of the cruelty. And I think the scale of it is worth considering when reflecting on one dead tortured cat. Anyone know how many animals are slaughtered annually in the uk for the meat trade?

750 million. If even only 1% of those animals live or die in pain and suffering, it's still a staggering amount of animal cruelty that we, as meat eaters, happily support with every pound of flesh we buy. And 1% is a very optimistic estimate on the animals behalf.

maybe the difference that makes me more concerned about the cat is whether the cruelty is intentional or not.

I dislike cats generally for their arrogant, knowing look, the pleasure they so obviously take in defacating upon well-tilled gardens and for the terrible toll they take upon wild birds. Nevertheless, to bake a cat is unpardonable. I have searched Lord Russell of Liverpool's ' The Knights of Bushido' [an account of Japanese wartime atrocities] for a suitable punishment for the devilishly sadistic fiend responsible, to no avail.

However, cat - lovers of the world rejoice! I have found a punishment so condign, so cruel as to make the senses reel. Why not force the evil baker to read all of Internet Owl's miserable, misanthropic, sour and tedious postings in one go. He will be howling to the moon in no time...

Originally posted by timo
However, cat - lovers of the world rejoice! I have found a punishment so condign, so cruel as to make the senses reel. Why not force the evil baker to read all of Internet Owl's miserable, misanthropic, sour and tedious postings in one go. He will be howling to the moon in no time...


:lol: :thumbsup:

Sam Miguel - the photo of one of the offenders was in The Star last Friday night with the story. The other is 17 so his identity isn't publicised.

Originally posted by t020
:lol: :thumbsup:

Sam Miguel - the photo of one of the offenders was in The Star last Friday night with the story. The other is 17 so his identity isn't publicised.

Old enough to get married, old enough to father kids, old enough to drive a car,.......but not old enough to be publicly humiliated eh?

What a soddin' joke is British law!:loopy:

does anyone have last fridays star??

Originally posted by f_g
does anyone have last fridays star??


Yes - would scanning in his photo and putting it up for everyone to see be illegal in anyway?

copyright theft T020, unless you have permission to reproduce the image.

am sure the star wouldnt mind - get scanning :)

I was absolutely mortified to read in the star last week about the killing of Watson the cat, putting a defenceless animal in an oven is absolutely sick. The MURDERORS Darren Anthony Glover, 24, and his sick "friend" David Anders of Kendray should really look at themselves in the mirror. I was deeply sadened by this as i have loved cats in my whole 16 year life. This could be the worst thing i have ever heard of in my life, i feel so sorry for Watson.

I also noticed that Darren Anthony Glover only recieved a 122 day prison sentence for this, i'd love him to get a life sentence, he deserves worse, but that couldn't happen unfortunately. It should be treated as murder as the cat has just as much right to live as any person or anything. I'm also saddened for the owners.

Who else thinks Darren Anthony Glover deserved a longer sentence?

Sorry rst123 but this is already covered exactly 9 posts down the 'view new post's list' :(.

Welcome to the forum anyway :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
copyright theft T020, unless you have permission to reproduce the image.

Ah, good point. :(

Originally posted by vidster
Sorry rst123 but this is already covered exactly 9 posts down the 'view new post's list' :(.

Welcome to the forum anyway :thumbsup:

MOD:Thanks for pointing that out, threads merged.'

I hate to hear of acts of torture like this, how are these people bought up, I don't think they need a prison sentance which is surely going to have no effect on them what-so-ever.

I think it would be better for them to get a better understanding of the animal kingdom, take them to the zoo, educate them about animals and why they shouldn't harm them.

They should get first hand experience of cats, particularly the larger ones, like tigers, they should meet them face to face, literally.

Complete ****ers

Originally posted by rst123
I was absolutely mortified to read in the star last week about the killing of Watson the cat, putting a defenceless animal in an oven is absolutely sick. The MURDERORS Darren Anthony Glover, 24, and his sick "friend" David Anders of Kendray should really look at themselves in the mirror. I was deeply sadened by this as i have loved cats in my whole 16 year life. This could be the worst thing i have ever heard of in my life, i feel so sorry for Watson.

I also noticed that Darren Anthony Glover only recieved a 122 day prison sentence for this, i'd love him to get a life sentence, he deserves worse, but that couldn't happen unfortunately. It should be treated as murder as the cat has just as much right to live as any person or anything. I'm also saddened for the owners.

Who else thinks Darren Anthony Glover deserved a longer sentence?

whilst I do agree that the punishment isn't as severe as i'd like, I'm not sure you really mean that this is the worst thing you've ever heard.
How about the kidnap and execution of people by Iraqi militants, beheading them after forcing them to read statements to a camera.
How about the millions of deaths in Africa every month due to faminie and war, how about the people who died in the tsunami recently.
Some of these are no one's fault, but on a huge scale, others are as cruel as the torture of a cat but applied to someones son, father and husband.

Whilst reprehensible, don't get this issue out of perspective. It's not murder, if it came down to a choice between saving a cat or saving a person I'd choose a person everytime.

Originally posted by Cyclone


Whilst reprehensible, don't get this issue out of perspective. It's not murder, if it came down to a choice between saving a cat or saving a person I'd choose a person everytime.

Given the choice of saving a cat or Darren Anthony Glover and his fun loving mate, it'd be the cat without a doubt.

Does it matter where he lives ?
Are you going to go round and slap him ?
I doubt it.

f_g - your post was removed. No need to put ideas, and addresses into peoples' heads here. Particularly posting Names and Postcodes (which are complete addresses). This is personal information, which whilst it it may be in the public domain, should not be posted on this site without permission of the individual

Nick, sorry your post makes less sense now...

Guys,

So many of you have posted your angry thoughts about the treatment of this defenceless animal. Why then only a few days later are people laughing about another animal cruelly killed and sexually abused here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=291688#post291688)

Does anyone know?

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
Guys,

So many of you have posted your angry thoughts about the treatment of this defenceless animal. Why then only a few days later are people laughing about another animal cruelly killed and sexually abused here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=291688#post291688)

Does anyone know?

K x

I am so appalled about all of it. How can ANYONE do such a thing to an ANIMAL is beyond me. I am so upset by the fact I see something happening to an animal on TV and films never mind in real life.

The story about the chicken is just sick – how can anyone……..why?

When I was living at Lowedges and there were a few hedgehogs that had been tortured literally and that was in The Star (can’t remember when, at least a year and half ago)

They all need stringing up....the lot of them. Sick b******s

Originally posted by pretty_polly
I am so appalled about all of it. How can ANYONE do such a thing to an ANIMAL is beyond me. I am so upset by the fact I see something happening to an animal on TV and films never mind in real life.

The story about the chicken is just sick – how can anyone……..why?

When I was living at Lowedges and there were a few hedgehogs that had been tortured literally and that was in The Star (can’t remember when, at least a year and half ago)

They all need stringing up....the lot of them. Sick b******s

Any kind of abuse of animals makes my blood boil! :rant: I would love to find out who these people are and expose them as scum!

i couldn`t read all the thread as it would just set me off again, i read the story in the star and it made me cry.
What they did to the poor cat should be done to them!!!!!:mad:

Originally posted by dial
i couldn`t read all the thread as it would just set me off again, i read the story in the star and it made me cry.
What they did to the poor cat should be done to them!!!!!:mad:

Dial,

I couldn't agree with you more.

If you're interested, have a look here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=292134) !

K x

Why didn't the police do him for common assault as well? I would have thought putting you hands around a 15 y.o. girls neck and threatening her would count?

That would have allowed a 6 month sentence and up to a £5k fine.

Originally posted by Kristian
Dial,

I couldn't agree with you more.

If you're interested, have a look here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=292134) !

K x
It wouldn`t let me look at the link k

I read the story and think it's absolutely disgusting. I will never be able to understand how anyone could act so cruely and have such little respect for another living being. The story left me feeling shocked and quite upset.

Owdlad - unfortunately, one of the scum involved got something like 126 days - should be much more IMO. The other scum is yet to be sentenced, AFAIK.

Internetowl - I wondered how long it would take for someone to chip in with a sick joke. :rolleyes:
This sentence should be much greater considering many people who abuse/murder animals progress to people. not knowinng all the story though if he had done this as means of providing food i believe it would be ok if he owned the cat

Only read the first few posts, and about four lines of the article. I actually couldn't read any more.

For once, words escape me.

Stagey