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Strix
05-02-2005, 21:14
Does anybody know of an area in Sheffield that doesn't have a council estate?

When we were house hunting we didn't come across one. Even Dore has a pocket of council properties.

Some of Sheffield's council estates are actually quite nice. I think Geadless is probably one. Does anybody know any others?


Edit: I'm only asking because somebody else who's thinking of moving to Sheffield has a phobia of said estates (unfairly, I believe).

Lindseyw
05-02-2005, 21:17
Originally posted by Strix
Does anybody know of an area in Sheffield that doesn't have a council estate?

When we were house hunting we couldn't find one. Even Dore has a pocket of council properties.

Which are the 'no go Zones'?

Which are actually quite reputable? (I think Gleadless fits in here, am I right?)

I honestly cant think of an area without one ! Whirlow maybe ?

Strix
05-02-2005, 21:21
:P That's the only one that sprung to mind for me, but I wasn't certain :suspect:

Lindseyw
05-02-2005, 21:27
What about Halfway ....... don't think that has one does it ? or does it ?

ukdavvy
05-02-2005, 21:41
Whats wrong with council estates?

I find your thread a little irritating

:)

d

Lindseyw
05-02-2005, 21:45
Originally posted by ukdavvy
Whats wrong with council estates?

I find your thread a little irritating

:)

d

So use the 'OFF' button

I dont remeber anyone saying there was anything wrong with council estates

Strix
05-02-2005, 22:04
Originally posted by ukdavvy
Whats wrong with council estates?

I find your thread a little irritating

:)

d

Ask Bubble. I found it irritating too :thumbsup: , hence the question.

Cyclone
05-02-2005, 22:23
depends on what you're counting as 'in Sheffield'
Anston doesn't have a council estate, Harthill doesn't, Todwick doesn't. But these are more villages on the outskirts.

Lindseyw
05-02-2005, 22:25
Originally posted by Cyclone
depends on what you're counting as 'in Sheffield'
Anston doesn't have a council estate, Harthill doesn't, Todwick doesn't. But these are more villages on the outskirts.

Don't know about Anston but Harthill and Todwick do have council estates

Strix
05-02-2005, 22:25
Originally posted by Cyclone
depends on what you're counting as 'in Sheffield'
Anston doesn't have a council estate, Harthill doesn't, Todwick doesn't. But these are more villages on the outskirts.
You'd better check with bubble whether they look like 'boroughs' on her map :rolleyes:

muddycoffee
05-02-2005, 23:06
I'm sorry but I think this is a vacuuous and stupid thread,


but the biggest district of sheffield, Hillsborough, does not have a council estate.

t020
05-02-2005, 23:11
Loads of places don't have council estates. :loopy:

I can't think of a single council HOUSE near here, let alone an estate.

Strix
05-02-2005, 23:14
Originally posted by muddycoffee
I'm sorry but I think this is a vacuuous and stupid thread,
Apparently it's very important to bubble. Don't shoot the messenger.

Cyclone
06-02-2005, 09:13
Originally posted by Lindseyw
Don't know about Anston but Harthill and Todwick do have council estates

Where are the council estates in Harthill and Todwick then?

Plain Talker
06-02-2005, 09:56
Originally posted by muddycoffee
I'm sorry but I think this is a vacuuous and stupid thread,


but the biggest district of sheffield, Hillsborough, does not have a council estate.


I am sorry, but you have been informed wrongly, muddy!

There are two (at least) council areas that I can think of, straight off the top of my head, in hillsborough.

in Hillsborough there is a council area at the back of the burrowlee road area, behind the swann-morton factory; there's some council maisonettes.

and on the other side of the wednesday ground, off leppings lane, there's an estate called "Eskdale Road"

(BTW, I agree with you about the vacuosity of a thread like this. I had to answer it, though, to correct the wriong information that had been given to you.)

PT

poppins
06-02-2005, 15:25
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ukdavvy
[B]Whats wrong with council estates?

There use to be some lovely council estates, i had my teenage years in southey green, was nice then.

Didn't Madonna make a nasty comment about council houses in England ? guess thats why she had her wedding in a castle !

Rich
06-02-2005, 17:12
Originally posted by poppins
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ukdavvy
[B]Whats wrong with council estates?

There use to be some lovely council estates, i had my teenage years in southey green, was nice then.

Didn't Madonna make a nasty comment about council houses in England ? guess thats why she had her wedding in a castle !

Yeah, bitch!

Cos she's a big star she's too good for a Church wedding like normal folk :rant:

Strix
06-02-2005, 17:54
Originally posted by poppins
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ukdavvy
[B]Didn't Madonna make a nasty comment about council houses in England ? guess thats why she had her wedding in a castle !
Twerp that she is. We were looking at venues in Scotland, but then we had to move house. By the time we were settled again, she had been married up there and all the venue prices had trebled thanks to the copy-cats :mad:

She went back to the states to give birth too. Something to do with a dislike of the NHS, I believe :rolleyes:

poppins
06-02-2005, 18:54
Originally posted by Strix
Twerp that she is. We were looking at venues in Scotland, but then we had to move house. By the time we were settled again, she had been married up there and all the venue prices had trebled thanks to the copy-cats :mad:

She went back to the states to give birth too. Something to do with a dislike of the NHS, I believe :rolleyes:

Too bad as her husband seems nice, god knows what he saw in her, maybe he liked the gap between her teeth !

Lindseyw
06-02-2005, 19:39
Originally posted by Cyclone
Where are the council estates in Harthill and Todwick then?

Harthill - right at the top on the right

Todwick halfway thru on the left

Cyclone
07-02-2005, 08:20
Originally posted by Lindseyw
Harthill - right at the top on the right

Todwick halfway thru on the left

Is there not a difference between a few council houses and a council estate?

And in Todwich I guess that would depend on which direction you were travelling?

Strix
07-02-2005, 13:57
Originally posted by Cyclone
Is there not a difference between a few council houses and a council estate?

Not to somebody who doesn't live in Sheffield.

t020
07-02-2005, 16:27
Originally posted by Strix
Not to somebody who doesn't live in Sheffield.

Because Sheffield is the only place with council properties isn't it. :rolleyes: :loopy:

Strix
07-02-2005, 22:54
Originally posted by t020
Because Sheffield is the only place with council properties isn't it. :rolleyes: :loopy:
It's the city with the highest proportion of council properties in the whole of the UK, as Sheffield is the heart of the original socialist ideals, so the stigma that is associated with such places in the rest of the country is not appropriate here.

t020
07-02-2005, 23:26
Originally posted by Strix
so the stigma that is associated with such places in the rest of the country is not appropriate here.

That simply isn't true though is it? How many times have council houses, estates, "chavs", etc been slagged off on this SHEFFIELD forum? There's plenty of stigma.

Also, I don't know if you yourself live in Sheffield, but there are SEVERAL areas that don't contain any council estates at all, and probably not any single council properties.

Lindseyw
08-02-2005, 12:14
Originally posted by t020
That simply isn't true though is it? How many times have council houses, estates, "chavs", etc been slagged off on this SHEFFIELD forum? There's plenty of stigma.

Also, I don't know if you yourself live in Sheffield, but there are SEVERAL areas that don't contain any council estates at all, and probably not any single council properties.


not many though

Yodameister
08-02-2005, 12:20
I'm really glad that I live right in the middle of a very large council estate, because you don't encounter people who think they are better than other people because of where they live.

If you want to live somewhere in Sheffield that is nowhere near a council estate, such as Crookes/Broomhill/Ecclesall then you are going to have to pay a LOT more money.

Lindseyw
08-02-2005, 12:30
I think A lot of people have got the wrong idea - this thread was asking were are the areas without council estates - simply that, not to slag off council areas at all - I grew up on one - i turned out OK !!

Skatiechik
08-02-2005, 12:38
I grew up on one too, doesn't mean I want to live next to one ;)

Lindseyw
08-02-2005, 12:45
Originally posted by Skatiechik
I grew up on one too, doesn't mean I want to live next to one ;)

Fair Pont - thats the point I was trying to make :)

Yodameister
10-02-2005, 12:37
I think there are far more important factors that you should consider before you worry about the proximity of Council Estates.

Just because it is a council estate it doesn't mean that it is exactly the same as every other one, and just because there are trouble in some it doesn't mean they are all the same.

Strix
11-02-2005, 22:44
Originally posted by Yodameister
Just because it is a council estate it doesn't mean that it is exactly the same as every other one, and just because there are trouble in some it doesn't mean they are all the same. That's exactly what I was trying to get at, so can anybody give an outline to Sheffield's 'good' and 'bad' (by reputation) council estates/areas?

I'm only asking, because we have a lot of people joining this forum who are looking for local info coz they're moving into the area, and this stuff could be helpful.

swfckoplass
11-02-2005, 23:50
whats rong with council estates? if u dont like council estates move to essex

Kristian
11-02-2005, 23:53
Originally posted by Strix
That's exactly what I was trying to get at, so can anybody give an outline to Sheffield's 'good' and 'bad' (by reputation) council estates/areas?

I'm only asking, because we have a lot of people joining this forum who are looking for local info coz they're moving into the area, and this stuff could be helpful.

The estate that I live nearest to is Wisewood. The houses that I see are immaculately maintained, and the average for sale price is well over £100.000.

K x

Kristian
11-02-2005, 23:54
Originally posted by swfckoplass
whats rong with council estates? if u dont like council estates move to essex

Wrong (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wrong)

K x

Strix
12-02-2005, 00:34
Originally posted by Kristian
The estate that I live nearest to is Wisewood. The houses that I see are immaculately maintained, and the average for sale price is well over £100.000.

K x
Thank you Kristian. That's exactly what I was looking for :thumbsup:

How does it measure up for graffitti and stuff?

Kristian
12-02-2005, 00:45
Originally posted by Strix
Thank you Kristian. That's exactly what I was looking for :thumbsup:

How does it measure up for graffitti and stuff?

There isn't any Strix. It's amazingly quiet. There's no crime to speak of ( and my boyfriend's sister lives there amd knows everything so I'm right!)

I would live there too, but I can't get anywhere to swap for a large three bedroom terrace in Hillsborough...

K x

Strix
12-02-2005, 00:46
That is telling too, K ;)

Cheers.

(did you get the PM?)

t020
12-02-2005, 01:24
Originally posted by swfckoplass
whats rong with council estates? if u dont like council estates move to essex


Because they don't have council estates in Essex do they :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

starchild
13-02-2005, 16:14
There are no council estates within close proximity to Ranmoor, Whirlow, Broomhill (don't quote me on the latter one) etc :clap:
In fact Dore is one of the few predominantly affluent areas that does have an estate :suspect:

t020
13-02-2005, 19:04
Whirlow is right next to Dore though, so it depends on how close the proximity is. Most areas in the SW quadrant of Sheffield don't have council estates (I can only think of Dore and Totley that do).

Plain Talker
15-02-2005, 13:16
ranmoor has the westminster council estate bordering it (It's sort of on the cusp of lodge moor/ ranmoor/fulwood)

whirlow- it had a small (very small! ) development of council flats if I remember correctly, (I assume they've been bought by the tenants, by now, mind you!)

broomhill- It depends what you call broomhill.. the line between broomhill and broom hall is a bit blurred, but when I was homeless I lived in a council hostel off collegiate cresc, and there are council properties at the top end of the gloucester street area, which are, again, on the cusp of the two estates, (I can't quite work out where the two divide.

Even Bents Green had a council estate on it, near the hammer and pincers (I think it's called)!

PT

t020
15-02-2005, 16:13
Originally posted by Plain Talker

Even Bents Green had a council estate on it, near the hammer and pincers (I think it's called)!

PT


Where? Which roads? Which houses? What is your source? By "had" I presume they have been bought and are therefore no longer council houses anymore. I really am intrigued.

Plain Talker
15-02-2005, 21:24
okay, t020, as you stand by the shops, just above high storrs school, on ringinglow road...

look up towards silverdale school, past the methodist church on the corner, and there is a development of council flats, just before the pub.

I used the past tense, as in "were council flats", because, like in most decent areas, the right-to-buy-ers will have swooped, taking even more social housing off the availability lists.

In Crosspool, there was a block of about four council houses., near Tapton Hill church, (Just above the "pensioners" flats) A friend of mine lived there, until a few years ago, when she did a mutual exchange into Glossop. Of the four (or so) three bedroomed houses that were on that block, hers was the only one which hadn't been bought under the right to buy.

it is exactly the same at Dore and Totley. there are so many council houses that have been bought, that it is nigh-on impossible for folks who need to move into that area (whether for health or family reasons) to get a property there.

it's iniquitous.

PT

t020
15-02-2005, 21:26
One block of EX-council flats does not constitute a "council estate" though.

t020
15-02-2005, 21:27
Originally posted by Plain Talker

it is exactly the same at Dore and Totley. there are so many council houses that have been bought, that it is nigh-on impossible for folks who need to move into that area (whether for health or family reasons) to get a property there.


Good, IMO.

Strix
15-02-2005, 22:19
Originally posted by t020
One block of EX-council flats does not constitute a "council estate" though.

The point is, it does to a non-Sheffielder considering moving into the area

Thanks PT

t020
15-02-2005, 23:26
Originally posted by Strix
The point is, it does to a non-Sheffielder considering moving into the area

Thanks PT

No it doesn't. The question was places without council estates. Considering it's EX council, it doesn't constitute a council estate by anyone's definition.