Whats that all about?:confused:

with technology these days you would have thought the Tram track people could have come up with a none slip surface.

comming up through Norfork Park tonight, the car in front of me almost lost control, and no he / she was not speeding.

all us regular drivers know to drive with our wheels either side of the tracks ,but not everyone has driven on the same road as a tram.

Ive noticed the railings outside Somerfields on the Manor Top are replaced on a weekly basis cus of track related accidents.:huh:

"Natural Selection"

but not everyone has driven on the same road as a tram.

Sorry, but if these muppets can't tell the difference between a road surface and wet steel they sure as hell shouldn't be driving a car. :loopy:

I wholeheartedly agree with CGK and T.Bojangles.

There are far too many people driving cars who really shouldn't be. If you cannot compute the dangers and methods for driving along tram tracks, then it is time to give up your license.

Well said guys.

Whats that all about?:confused:

with technology these days you would have thought the Tram track people could have come up with a none slip surface.

comming up through Norfork Park tonight, the car in front of me almost lost control, and no he / she was not speeding.

all us regular drivers know to drive with our wheels either side of the tracks ,but not everyone has driven on the same road as a tram.

Ive noticed the railings outside Somerfields on the Manor Top are replaced on a weekly basis cus of track related accidents.:huh:

Its not only cars that have problems but buses as well , there was one Sunday about 4 years ago when a bus doing about 10mph in front of what was then C&A ( Snig Hill ), it skidded on the wet tram tracks and smashed down a pelican crossing pole , a bin & then came to rest on the supporting poles of the C&A building , if you look today you will still see the black scuff marks :rolleyes:

Sorry, but if these muppets can't tell the difference between a road surface and wet steel they sure as hell shouldn't be driving a car. :loopy:

And if you come from a city or town that has`nt got trams, you would not know of the dangers of driving on the tracks, until you first hit one (so to speak) you then soon realise, and then hopefully drive with due care and attention.

But to suggest that they should`nt be driving is just plain rediculous

Sorry, but if these muppets can't tell the difference between a road surface and wet steel they sure as hell shouldn't be driving a car. :loopy:

Not in Sheffield anyway - can we politely suggest thay move to Leeds?

And if you come from a city or town that has`nt got trams, you would not know of the dangers of driving on the tracks, until you first hit one (so to speak) you then soon realise, and then hopefully drive with due care and attention.

But if people looked at the triangular warning signs for 'slippery road' (which are up in ALL tram areas), then they might realise before they had any problems!

just had my first driving lesson in almost 5 years, and got taken down a tram route on the wet tracks. didn't have any trouble (despite driving a little slowly!), but then i've only done that once so far :?

the warning signs are there. sounds like a case of needing to brush up on observation skills and/or knowing how to take the foot off the pedal on the right and not use it too hard on the one in the centre ;)

Surely you'd have to be extremely unlucky/a very very poor driver to have some kind of accident in a car on the tracks? Even if you start to skid on them, as soon as the tyre(s) return to the normal surface then surely the vehicle ceases to be in a skid?

Everyone who drives should have knowledge of the Highway code even if they don`t come from a city/town that has tram tracks the followimg was copied from the Highway code
Tramways
300
You MUST NOT enter a road, lane or other route reserved for trams. Take extra care where trams run along the road. You should avoid driving directly on top of the rails and should take care where trams leave the main carriageway to enter the reserved route, to ensure you do not follow them. The width taken up by trams is often shown by tram lanes marked by white lines, yellow dots or by a different type of road surface. Diamond-shaped signs and white light signals give instructions to tram drivers only.

[QUOTE=exmrbd;2911861]ne Sunday about 4 years ago when a bus doing about 10mph QUOTE]

A bus doing 10mph through the centre of town? You must be joking. The only buses I see in town, only seem capable of being driven at a minimum of 40mph. If they wern't bus drivers they could only ever be employed as Kamikhazi pilots.

Surely you'd have to be extremely unlucky/a very very poor driver to have some kind of accident in a car on the tracks? Even if you start to skid on them, as soon as the tyre(s) return to the normal surface then surely the vehicle ceases to be in a skid?

A police landrover "lost it" on the tracks on Holme Lane (outside the now defunct Money Spinners) and ended up in the computer shop (also now long gone) on the opposite side of the road (corner of Holme Close).

Bet they were going at a good sight more than 30 mph.

They're also pretty nasty for cyclists - whilst I've ridden across them countless times, the only time I've fallen off in the last few years (not counting mountain biking :)) was slipping on a wet tram track :(
Now I get off and push...

Bet they were going at a good sight more than 30 mph.

And I bet the Police driver was banned from driving police vehicles until an enquiry looked into who was at fault. I knew someone married to a copper a few years ago, who had a minor accident and he was taken off all driving duties and retrained.

Whats that all about?:confused:

Ive noticed the railings outside Somerfields on the Manor Top are replaced on a weekly basis cus of track related accidents.:huh:


Come I dont beleive thats factually correct replaced EVERY WEEK I think not:mad::mad::mad:

They're also pretty nasty for cyclists - whilst I've ridden across them countless times, the only time I've fallen off in the last few years (not counting mountain biking :)) was slipping on a wet tram track :(
Now I get off and push...

Here we go again cyclists and tram tracks if they are so dangerous how is it that at 245pm there used to be a cyclist who went UP the tram tracks at hight street with both rims in the track .

Dont know whether he still does it.

Here we go again cyclists and tram tracks if they are so dangerous how is it that at 245pm there used to be a cyclist who went UP the tram tracks at hight street with both rims in the track .

Dont know whether he still does it.

:confused: Mad! As I said in my post, I've ridden over them many a time with no problem, the one fall has now put me off.
I just though I'd bring another perspective into the thread, sorry if you're too narrow minded to cope :rolleyes::)

Come I dont beleive thats factually correct replaced EVERY WEEK I think not:mad::mad::mad:

go and have a look up there now:loopy: there is tempoary fencing cus of a tram track related accident.:huh:

well said Becky B

driven on the same road as a tram.

Ive noticed the railings outside Somerfields on the Manor Top are replaced on a weekly basis cus of track related accidents.:huh:

The problem with manor top is it is very exposed and prone to black ice. Even before the supertram was installed I had a few pant filling moments on my motorcycle.

Nowadays with the tram tracks, to demolish the railings at summerfield, you would have to be doing 60 mph. 30 or less you would not sucessfully mount the kerb.

Ive noticed the railings outside Somerfields on the Manor Top are replaced on a weekly basis cus of track related accidents.:huh:

are they? oh crap. that brings a whole new sense of excitement to my journey to work

for a minute there i thought the band Wet Tram had reformed, and were playing again.

ah well, never mind.

wet wet wet slippery when wet

Are slippery road conditions a new thing? Have we never seen rain? Remeber cobblestones in their day twice as lethal as tramtracks & they were right across the road surface

How old are you m8

I wonder why the super German designers of the tram didn't think to make the track wider to a little more narrow then the average car?

Now that the answer im looking for Hepstall

Technology these days

Are slippery road conditions a new thing? Have we never seen rain? Remeber cobblestones in their day twice as lethal as tramtracks & they were right across the road surface

WRT cobblestones, average speeds were much lower, though, back in the day, so were more proportional/ appropriate to the driving conditions.

WRT tramtracks, again, there were some accidents accociated with the tram tracks back then, but mostly of the "cyclist's wheel getting caught in the grooves" type. Also, back then, tramtracks were much more prolific, so people were more aware of them, more alert to them, more au faitwith the etiquiette of driving around the tracks.

There had been no tram tracks in the city for thirty-odd years, until Supertram was introduced. There was a different generation of folk, cycling and driving, people who had never had any experience of driving / cycling on tramtracks.

there is another consideration to factor in.

In some areas along the route of the tram tracks, there is a greater difference in the height of the surface of the road and the tram tracks, where the tram runs within traffic, and it can cause difficulties.

Yes, the etiquette is to drive slightly offset to the tracks, to ensure that your tyres have sufficient traction against the road surface, rather than on the track itself, which are slippy, there's no doubt about that.

didnt take long expected it way before now

"Natural Selection"

For the pedestrians that get hit? :loopy:

For the pedestrians that get hit? :loopy:

Perhaps surprisingly .... yes!

Pedestrians should be more aware of the dangers of the fact that many drivers don't know what they are doing.

I wonder why the super German designers of the tram didn't think to make the track wider to a little more narrow then the average car?

No real need to if one was to drive between the tracks and watch their speed.

Sometimes have caught the tracks myself (but that was my own fault) and it can give the back end a nasty little kick. But if you aren't speeding its easily correctable

Perhaps surprisingly .... yes!

Pedestrians should be more aware of the dangers of the fact that many drivers don't know what they are doing.

So one line gets wiped out by the duff genes of another - I wonder what Charles Darwin would have made of that! :confused:

Perhaps surprisingly .... yes!

Pedestrians should be more aware of the dangers of the fact that many drivers don't know what they are doing.

When I'm a pedestrian I automatically assume all car drivers are a danger and might do something stupid.

When I drive I assume all pedestrians (see above).

When I'm a pedestrian I automatically assume all car drivers are a danger and might do something stupid.

When I drive I assume all pedestrians (see above).

Crikey! You’re completely invulnerable!