1st of let me say everyones so nice on ere [butter u up abit :hihi:]
ive gotten my younger brother in to the Reptiles disease.:love:, ive been keeping them for about 6 years now and had all diffrent types, and suddenly my brother asked if i could get him one for christmas.but i know i,ll end up caring for it..lol..he has got abit of knowlage with reptiles as he,s helped and watched me over the years.im kind of enthusiastic as i was the only one in my house how was interested in them <[the weirdo] .im wanting to get him a snake any type apart from corns,rat and somthing thats sub adult or adult as there easyer to handle then babies if you dont completely know what your doing.i know i could go to sheffield exotics or the snake shop.But i prefer to buy off locals as most pet shops are only in it to make money. [IM NOT SAYING THE 2 SHOPS I MENTIONED ARE IN IT FOR MONEY].i know there are acouple of reptile lovers on ere who im hoping can help me out.but to be honest im not wanting to pay massive amounts as its near christmas and ive got 6 other brothers and sisters to buy for :help:
.i dident put the post in the WANTED section as i know i will get a better responce on ere so if you could leave it on Pet owners i would really appreciate it................if anyone can help that would be brilliant :D :help: :loopy: :roll:

You should really get one from a shop you have more come backs if things go wrong that way.

Plus if your bro needs an exo terra I have one as brand new for £25

what size have you got pics?

why are you ruling out corns?. They are great 'beginners' snakes
Recently posted a ad for a nice young strawberry female, with her complete setup (inc 18" exo-terra and 3 months suppy of fluffs)

nothing agaist corns ive had them b4 but the one of the most common reptile kept there like that staffy of dogs

nothing agaist corns ive had them b4 but the one of the most common reptile kept there like that staffy of dogs

Thought these were for your brother not you and the exo terra is a 45x45 one

this happens everytime on ere i start a topic on ere . people turn it into a argument.yes it is for my brother BUT theses are the snakes he told me he dosent want

is there any type of rescue centres that deal with reptiles as i would rather rescue one than buy one??
and i know you have to pay for a rescue

I was merely stating that for a starter a corn snake would be the most responsible start as they are hardy.

Thats how I read it CV. A beginner shouldn't be taking on, or expected to learn from, anything other than a starters species. corns, garters, ratsnakes, kings. anything else in NOT good for a beginner.....how does he feel about having to force-feed a royal for instance, notorious bad feeders?

There should NEVER be any need to force-feed a snake!

I've had my Royal for just over a year now, and I will be the first to admit I am a COMPLETE amateur when it comes to reptiles (or even pets in general, managed to kill a budgie FFS).

Willow didn't eat for around 3 months, I was worried, I didn't like it, but I kept on speaking to reptile owners, Exotics, the Snake shop and reading up on the internet, and found that he didn't like brown rats, and wouldn't eat them without chick fluff on them.

It was a case of trial and error with him, he wasn't malnourished, a bit smaller than he should have been maybe, but healthy and happy.

I personally think Royals are fantastic starter snakes, they don't strike, bite, hardly ever hiss, easy to feed once you find the right balance for your own snake, easy to maintain and beautiful to watch. I feel no danger when I look at my snake, only a feeling that I am doing well, he is growing fantastically, looking great and is in all respects a very calm, happy snake.

Of course if you start pushing rats down it's throat or forcing it to eat it won't like it! How would you like it if someone tried to force-feed you? If there's one thing owning Willow has taught me about snakes, reptiles or any pet, it's to take your time, find out what THEY like, and give it to them.

In conclusion, sorry if I sounded like an arse, but Royals are great animals and perfect starters in my book!

P.S Corns are nice (well some of them) but once they reach full size they are scary as fooook...

My mate had a 4foot + Red corn and it terrified me!

P.S Corns are nice (well some of them) but once they reach full size they are scary as fooook...

My mate had a 4foot + Red corn and it terrified me!

But as you say you are a noob to keeping reptiles and I on the other hand have plenty of experience of seeing a royal close to death from starvation.

Royals are not a good starter snake in my opinion due to their fussy diet habits and they need a much more controlled environment.

Corns and rat snakes are the best snake for beginners. I have kept rescued and rehomed all different types of snake lizard and gecko.

You could always get him a Boa :)
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There should NEVER be any need to force-feed a snake!

I've had my Royal for just over a year now, and I will be the first to admit I am a COMPLETE amateur when it comes to reptiles (or even pets in general, managed to kill a budgie FFS).

Willow didn't eat for around 3 months, I was worried, I didn't like it, but I kept on speaking to reptile owners, Exotics, the Snake shop and reading up on the internet, and found that he didn't like brown rats, and wouldn't eat them without chick fluff on them.

It was a case of trial and error with him, he wasn't malnourished, a bit smaller than he should have been maybe, but healthy and happy.



I personally think Royals are fantastic starter snakes, they don't strike, bite, hardly ever hiss, easy to feed once you find the right balance for your own snake, easy to maintain and beautiful to watch. I feel no danger when I look at my snake, only a feeling that I am doing well, he is growing fantastically, looking great and is in all respects a very calm, happy snake.

Of course if you start pushing rats down it's throat or forcing it to eat it won't like it! How would you like it if someone tried to force-feed you? If there's one thing owning Willow has taught me about snakes, reptiles or any pet, it's to take your time, find out what THEY like, and give it to them.

In conclusion, sorry if I sounded like an arse, but Royals are great animals and perfect starters in my book!

With all due respect, you are speaking to someone who has kept, bred and rescued royals for a lot longer than yourself and stated you have owned just the one: Fantastic, if you got a nice captive-bred specimin who feeds well, then thats great, but take on a wild caught one, sold to some unsuspecting sap who then hands it over to you because it hasn't eaten since he bought it, and you will see a different picture once you have tried every variety of every feed item and even gone down the live feeding route and failed, and STILL have a snake on your hands that has not eaten for months and close to death, then you may see the need for the pinkie-pump.

One royal doth not an expert make ;)

Ive delt with striking, hissing versions too! invariably given over to me by self-proclaimed 'Experts'

With all due respect, you are speaking to someone who has kept, bred and rescued royals for a lot longer than yourself and stated you have owned just the one: Fantastic, if you got a nice captive-bred specimin who feeds well, then thats great, but take on a wild caught one, sold to some unsuspecting sap who then hands it over to you because it hasn't eaten since he bought it, and you will see a different picture once you have tried every variety of every feed item and even gone down the live feeding route and failed, and STILL have a snake on your hands that has not eaten for months and close to death, then you may see the need for the pinkie-pump.

One royal doth not an expert make ;)

Ive delt with striking, hissing versions too! invariably given over to me by self-proclaimed 'Experts'

i must agree Royals can be a pain to keep and will go of there food if stressed or handled too often they hate large open spaces and need at least two hide boxes .... why people sell them as a starter snake is beyond me