whats does everyone think of motorbikes danger wise..as im planning on getting one for my 19th but so many people have put all kinds of graphic pictures in my head about how much danger they cause.id like the point of few from diffrent people

No problem with the bikes themselves. The problem is there's no where for people to legally ride them so they drive around the streets being a nuisance.

Where would you ride it if you got one?

Oh, and seeing as you're 18, why not save up for a proper bike instead of getting a hairdryer? You could ride that on the streets legally at least.

id buy using it for work on the road and its no hair dryer..lol..its a 600cc

id buy using it for work on the road and its no hair dryer..lol..its a 600cc

Sorry, I'm very tired and for some reason thought you were talking about them minimoto things. No idea why.

Time to go back to bed I reckon.

Yes, get a motorbike. They're great fun!

no chance i h8 them little things..even 125cc do my head in there all over my area

Motorbikes are great,but i don't think i'd have one now,as there are too many bad,and inconsiderate drivers on the roads nowadays.
You can be the best/safest rider going,but if you've got nutters pulling out on you etc..it's a nightmare on a bike.
Just thought i'd cheer you up!:hihi:

I wanna take my Bike Test next year ...:rolleyes:

Go for it
I :love: Bikes and can't wait to get mine ;)

Just remember it's not the bike that's dangerous, it's the rider.

I've been driving cars for 14 years and riding bikes for the last 3 years now and only ever had one accident. That was on a bike early on when I misjudged a situation, fortunately I was on a 50cc at the time!
Everyone is different but I think you should start off cautiously and treating EVERY car like it's going to kill you. Every junction you go past make sure you are aware of exactly what is happening and that you are going slow enough to stop if someone pulls out. Most importantly, the thing that has always saved me from getting into many difficulties is reading the road far ahead and anticipating what drivers and riders are going to do... good luck, it's good fun!! :thumbsup:

Deathtraps.

Make sure you sign up for the organ donor register and carry your donor card - if you're lucky enough to be killed. I've met several people who have been paralysed from the neck down after motorcycle accidents and who are fully dependant on others.

Has the law changed? I thought you had to be over 21 to have a bike that is 600cc s? Apart from that they are fantastic theres nowt like accelerating up to 170mph and thrashing thee pants off them ..........ive been told.:hihi:

Bikes are fantastic, and as a commuter vehicle perfect! But riding around Sheffield you have to have eyes not just on the back of your head but all over your body, I have come across more than enough lunatic drivers in the last two years to last me a lifetime. Even been nudged a couple of times But I'm still riding :)

As long as you’re aware of other road users you'll be fine. I personally think everyone should ride a bike on the road for at least 12 months will make them a much better driver and far more aware of their surroundings.

I prefer tourers for commuting, as it’s a bit easier to get through the traffic when sitting more upright, what bike you looking at?

Bikes are fantastic, and as a commuter vehicle perfect! But riding around Sheffield you have to have eyes not just on the back of your head but all over your body, I have come across more than enough lunatic drivers in the last two years to last me a lifetime.

Exactly. My five-year motorcycling career came to an abrupt end at a crossroads near Worrall. A farmer's wife failed to stop at a give-way sign and slammed into me at about 40 mph. My BSA 250 was a write-off and I was, almost (3 months in the Infirmary with multiple fractures, 8 months off work). It isn't what you do - it's what someone else does, and people simply don't look for motorbikes. Go carefully.

Car divers are regulated to the hilt from a safety aspect, motorcyclists get a fibreglass bonnet. At least your head will remain the same shape even though your body wont.

Car divers are regulated to the hilt from a safety aspect, motorcyclists get a fibreglass bonnet. At least your head will remain the same shape even though your body wont.

Are car divers people who drive submersible cars?

Deathtraps.

Make sure you sign up for the organ donor register and carry your donor card - if you're lucky enough to be killed. I've met several people who have been paralysed from the neck down after motorcycle accidents and who are fully dependant on others.
I bet they are a laugh on a night out:hihi::hihi:

I only had a motorbike for about 6 months but in that time I came off it 3 times. In the end I sold it and bought a computer; I looked daft commuting to work on a PC but not half as stupid as I would have done trying to type a document on a motorbike.

I only had a motorbike for about 6 months but in that time I came off it 3 times. In the end I sold it and bought a computer; I looked daft commuting to work on a PC but not half as stupid as I would have done trying to type a document on a motorbike.
You would have fell off a lot more if you were typing on a motorbike but if you were lucky enough to stay on your spell checker would have been doing overtime!

Having just witnessed what can only be described as the worlds biggest bellend, driving a T reg silver Golf GTi, overtaking half a dozen cars going up Normanton Hill at 70 plus miles an hour and just missing a car coming in the opposite direction, I concur with the views that there are some atrocious drivers on the roads.

This particular pile of prepuce then proceeded to drive on the opposite side of the road and ducking in when faced with oncoming headlights.

In all my 22 years of driving this was without doubt the most shocking driving I have seen.

I do have his reg number but I suppose it would be a waste of time reporting the total arsehole. :rant::rant:

Not at all - what have you got to lose?

:hihi:i think ive started somthing..lol...lets put it to a vote.all them in favour say HELL YEH and against say I NEED A LIFE...lol

:hihi:i think ive started somthing..lol...lets put it to a vote.all them in favour say HELL YEH and against say I NEED A LIFE...lol

I have to say HELL YEAH seeing as my DAS test is week before xmas. :D

Hell Yeh!!!!

Hell Yeh!!!

:hihi::loopy:

If your prepared to knowledgably take yer own life into your own hands everytime you get on it and bear in mind that a vast majority of road drivers haven't got a clue how to drive properly (most just point the car in the right direction and know which buttons / pedals do what), then get a bike.

Oh yeah, and the weather. . . as long as yer don't mind the cold, wet and windy stuff and be also mindful that the smallest patch of diesel on a wet road while your cornering and you is chewing the tarmac.

In my honest opinion, if yer hardcore, you'd have already made yer mind up and be on-route to getting one and wouldn't be pondering the differences on this forum. . so on this basis, get a car like you were going to in the first place.

thanks for the advice

Go for it.

A big fat HELL YEAH from me. Bikes are great fun to ride at any level and then there's the massive social side of it. you'll meet some good people and have loads of fun on the way.

If your sensible and got eyes up your arse then theres nothing better than a bike but be warned theres no airbags to protect you from comatosed numpties,and the numpties numbers grow every day,
ps make sure you got legal cover and dont skimp on the gear.
i personally wouldnt bother with a 600 (unless limited)you will out grow it fast.

when you say outgrow,in what way.remeber this will be my 1st legal bike :confused:

when you say outgrow,in what way.remeber this will be my 1st legal bike :confused:

Depends what you want to spend and how much insurance costs have to be considered.
alot of the older 600's are pretty slow,yet for £1500 you could have a mint 750 srad with little miles,and trust me they are much better than say a cbr.insurance might be a bit more but its worth checking.generally smaller bikes are more difficult to ride than the bigger.The bigger bikes are only as fast as you want them to be.
have a look on ebay.
bigger engines are also more ecnonomical,and last longer c,os there not being hammered everywhere.
getting it right first time will save you money.When you decide after a few weeks a 600 isnt big enough then you got to mess about .winter is a good time for snapping a bargain too.

Dont get one
my nephew has been knocked off his bike 3 times now , none of them his own fault , always car drivers not watching the road properly . Also one of his best friends was killed on his bike a few months ago , also the fault of a car driver .
Theres no protection on a bike , you come off , your gonna get hurt , easy as that .
Save up and buy yourself a car !

this is the strangest advice i've ever read




alot of the older 600's are pretty slow how can 0-60 in less than 4 secs and 150mph be slow?

generally smaller bikes are more difficult to ride than the bigger.The bigger bikes are only as fast as you want them to be. this maybe true for say a 125cc against a 500+cc bike but a 600 is as easy to ride as any 750

bigger engines are also more ecnonomical,and last longer c,os there not being hammered everywhere. not even sure how you come to this conclusion

this is the strangest advice i've ever read

Gotta agree with you wholeheartedly and call BS on the previous dudes entire advice / post. .

. . infact most pro / experienced bikers know for a fact that you don't jump in and go for massive straight away, its just stupid and power means nowt without experience. .

Gotta agree with you wholeheartedly and call BS on the previous dudes entire advice / post. .

. . infact most pro / experienced bikers know for a fact that you don't jump in and go for massive straight away, its just stupid and power means nowt without experience. .

I agree with you.

There seems to be a profusion of ******* contests as far as bikes are concerned.

This, in my opinion can only lead to one outcome, flowers on lamp posts for new bikers if they partake in said contests.

I've had a friend and a colleague both killed on their bikes, and another friend had his balls ripped off on his fuel cap, which was his second bike accident - just broken limbs the first time. I also see the survivors of bike accidents on a not infrequent basis professionally.

If you have to do it, do it now and get it out of your system whilst there's only your Mum/Dad/brother/sister/grandparents to weep over you. Just imagine thinking about your kids that your never going to see again whilst you're hanging by your neck from a scaffolding pole!

The good thing about car accidents is that all the bits are usually still attached, so people don't tend to look too bad after surgery; the trouble with bike accidents is that they tend to get scraped off on the road, so imagine life without your lower jaw and cheekbones, breathing through a hole in your neck.

Sorry to put it so harshly, but that's just the way it is.

Well, I have been riding bikes for over 20 years with only one accident (entirely my own fault)

One thing to remember - treat every car like it wants to knock you off the bike, then you will learn to be a cautious rider..

I've had a friend and a colleague both killed on their bikes, and another friend had his balls ripped off on his fuel cap, which was his second bike accident - just broken limbs the first time. I also see the survivors of bike accidents on a not infrequent basis professionally.

If you have to do it, do it now and get it out of your system whilst there's only your Mum/Dad/brother/sister/grandparents to weep over you. Just imagine thinking about your kids that your never going to see again whilst you're hanging by your neck from a scaffolding pole!

The good thing about car accidents is that all the bits are usually still attached, so people don't tend to look too bad after surgery; the trouble with bike accidents is that they tend to get scraped off on the road, so imagine life without your lower jaw and cheekbones, breathing through a hole in your neck.

Sorry to put it so harshly, but that's just the way it is.

Can you elaborate on the bold section, did the rider in question not wear a full face helmet.

i think googleberry might have gone over the top..so basicly your saying everyone that rides a bike will either die or have a massive injury? i understand the people are bound to get injurys but you can get injurys from being a passenger in a car or walkin across the road:rant:

Been riding since I was 14 go for it. Best start small then work your way up to the big bikes then when you grow up you will return back down to the mid sized.;) Its all good fun but it gets in your blood. :hihi::hihi::hihi:

I enjoy driving my cars quickly and do so on trackdays and drag racing where it is not illegal and in a safe environment to do so.

I love the feeling of acceleration in a fast car so I'm sure I'd love the even faster acceleration a motorbike is capable of.

However I'll never have one (despite being sorely tempted from time to time) for a couple of reasons, firstly I used to pushbike a lot as a young lad and know how much damage I did to knees etc falling off that, and secondly I really don't trust the other drivers on the roads. Have a bump in a car you perhaps need a new bumper and a visit to the body shop. Have a bump on a bike you've got broken bones to contend with?

I've been a biker for 20 years - and I'd say go for it.

If you are sensible and aware of what's going on around you, then you can stay pretty safe. I've been lucky, and never had an accident, despite the bike being my sole means of transport in all that time.

Roads are not the place to act the idiot on a bike - too many other gonks on the road. If you want to disengage brain and see what your bike is capable of, then go to a track day - there are plenty on in various places.

When you ask a question like this on the forum you have to realise there are two ways that people look at the world:

1. Those that think they can somehow cheat death by avoiding as much risk as possible.
2. Those that go 'hell, yeah!' and maybe even die as a result.

Lean too far towards #1 and you'll join the vast majority of people, who lead what Thoreau dubbed 'lives of quiet desperation'. Head towards #2 and you'll be joining those folk who are responsible for every advance the human race has ever made. It's up to you which you want to be.

Oh, and #2 ride motorcycles.

Chris

I love bikes, just sold my ZX9R before I kill myself on it! only cos it was capable of doing 180mph down the M1, never did though ;-) and the fun I had smoking thru traffic on it was awesome, but I will never recommend any one get a bike license because at some point you are pretty likly to kill youself or someone do it for you and I never want to be a deciding factor someone doing that! hence I buy bikes every year and then sell it once I get back to my confidance level again because I am too confident and cocky to risk it! I will kill myself at some point.

It is quite obvious from some of the posts on this thread as many others some dont have a clue what they are talking about.
To give the impression that cos you get a bike your life is some how going to be shortened.i agree that in the wrong hands they are dangerous but then theres millions of cars in the wrong hands too.
ive been riding since 9 years old and never had a serious spill,is that because ive never come across idiots?no! its because im ready for them at all times.
one post said about a guy having 3 accidents on his bike,none being his fault,RIGHT!!in law maybe but lets take for example the common one a car pulls out on you at a junction its the cars fault by default,but is it not your responibility to make sure your ready for that? i think it is and its kept me safe for 28 years of road biking.bikes are like any vehicle they are as fast as the user makes them.and any proper biker will tell you the bigger ones ride better than a small one.some one quoted 4 secs 0-60 for a 600 yes quite fast but only a proper biker will realise how slow a 600 is to a real bike and the difference in the riding experience,not cos its faster but easier.
I gave my opinions as i see it and why i think so.many people and that is many buy a 600 and weeks or months later decide they need a proper bike and have to sell and buy another so to ridicule the idea i put in the frame is what i expect from some but hey they would or couldnt ride a bike anyway,so whoo are they to judge.
i gave the information what the op decides is up to him.
All the best in what ever you decide.

There's far more traffic on the roads now than when I rode a bike... more traffic means more careless/inexperienced drivers... To increase your chances of survival, get a metal box around you... Or ride a bike and increase your chances of getting a wooden one around you instead.

As newvanandman says, those that say "I've had loads of accidents but none of them were my fault" are clearly living in cloud cuckoo land. Part of driving/riding/walking/crossing the road is anticipating risk from the actions of others.

There are lots that ride safely but you only have to be unlucky once - with someone pulling out, with a patch of diesel or a mechanical failure - and you have a much higher chance of sustaining a serious life-changing injury on a bike.

ive had alot of good advice on ere even people i dident agree with i understand were there coming from.but people are saying the a 600 arnt a real bike but im ok with that as do you think its a good idea to give more than a 600cc to someone who dosent completely know what there doing? wich a agree.But i would like to see some of the bikes you all drive? :hihi:

Ive been riding a 125 now pretty much every day for nearly 2 years, going to take my test after xmas. In those 2 years Ive never had a fall or slip, despite numerous car drivers pulling onto roundabouts without looking first, people overtaking where there isnt actually room to overtake, and other examples of general twatty driving. As long as you treat every other driver on the road as if theyre a complete clueless numpty (and a hell of a lot of them are), youll be fine. And the look on the faces of my workmates when I pass their car standing in traffic on the a57 in the morning is priceless.

LMFAO :hihi:

ive had alot of good advice on ere even people i dident agree with i understand were there coming from.but people are saying the a 600 arnt a real bike but im ok with that as do you think its a good idea to give more than a 600cc to someone who dosent completely know what there doing? wich a agree.But i would like to see some of the bikes you all drive? :hihi:
Dont worry - anything with 2 wheels and a few gears is a proper bike - to a proper biker. anyway. A 600cc is plenty fast enough -anything more or a "proper bike" is asking for trouble with the crap roads and little experience. pop over to www.sheffieldbikers.co.uk some decent people on there. Oh and as for the bikes i have i ride a Bandit 1200 and a race ZXR400 (which in itself can embarrass a lot of the poorly ridden litre bikes)

if you want a bike, get one. A 600 is a real proper bike, i have a 600 sports bike and an 1100 chop. 1000cc sports bikes are amazing but a 600 is enough for anyone on these roads these days. Get the bike that suits you and do your own thing, you will also be joining a great community and make loads of new mates.

...A 600cc is plenty fast enough -anything more or a "proper bike" is asking for trouble with the crap roads and little experience. pop over to www.sheffieldbikers.co.uk some decent people on there. Oh and as for the bikes i have i ride a Bandit 1200 and a race ZXR400 (which in itself can embarrass a lot of the poorly ridden litre bikes)

Well said 'FRH', some decent folks on www.sheffieldbikers.co.uk always willing to help out with advice and repairs etc, and during fine weather they have small group rideouts up North Yorks, Lakes, East Coast and Wales, mainly scenic routes with plenty of twisties.

My bikes also a 600cc and was dyno tested last year at SMC to 150mph, not that it ever gets pushed like that on the road Officer, but it 's enough to keep up with some of the larger bikes and is a doddle to filter through town traffic with.

Also, if there's anyone thinking about doing their 2 wheel test, get it done sharpish before the regulations are changed - again!

I've had bikes all my life . And in my experience it's the other road users that are the danger . Always remember the bike is only as dangerous as the person using it . A bit like a gun .

O.K then , so your on your bike driving along a road , sticking to the speed limit , and a car pulls out of a junction and knocks you off your bike , NOT the bikers fault .
Your on your bike waiting at a red light when a car comes up behind you and slams straight into you , knocking you off our bike , turns out he was on his mobile and just didnt see you , NOT the bikers fault !!
Your on your bike waiting at a junction when a car driver decides that youve got no right to be on the road so smashes into the side of you , knocking you off your bike . The driver gets out his car with a grin on his face , lots of people are checking that the biker is alright and one of them asks for the car drivers insurance details as the bike is totalled , the car driver says dont bother he wont be insured anyway and tries to get back into his car and drive off !.The biker IS fully insured , bike IS taxed , tested , everything but this PRAT in the car seems to think that he owns the road so dosnt have to take responsibility , Not the bikers fault again .
So all these people who are saying that accidents are caused by the bikers themselves or its because they dont watch the roads properly are talking out of their a***s !!!!:loopy:

i got it wrong the isent a 600cc its a 1984 suzuki gs 650 gt:love:

I've had bikes all my life . And in my experience it's the other road users that are the danger . Always remember the bike is only as dangerous as the person using it . A bit like a gun .

i agree with you,

...........But i would like to see some of the bikes you all drive? :hihi:

There you go:

2005 VFR V-Tech ABS (http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h107/garyeyre/af10_3.jpg):love::love:

when you drive past me try not to laugh at my bike to much..lol..its a silver bike

i agree with you,

bikers generally are far more switched on than the average numpty car driver,they have to be,if more people rode bikes they would be far less traffic problems.Every time i approach a junction i always check to see if the driver has made eye contact with me (always expecting the worse) some ********s pull out on you and try and blame the bike ,my advice is to try and get up to at least a 600cc as fast as you can,cause car drivers tend to leave you alone a bit ,ive often seen small bikes and scooters bullied by car drivers, riding a bike is a dangerous pastime,but it does get the pulse racing,generally car drivers need to be educated and punished if they drive dangerously,saying i didnt see him officer,is not good enough. safe biking paul (er6f owner)

Can you elaborate on the bold section, did the rider in question not wear a full face helmet.

Indeed, this particular case was wearing a crappy helmet, not a full face one, which would have made a difference, probably.

i think googleberry might have gone over the top..so basicly your saying everyone that rides a bike will either die or have a massive injury? i understand the people are bound to get injurys but you can get injurys from being a passenger in a car or walkin across the road:rant:

Not everyone who rides a bike will die or be injured, of course. :hihi: However, there's no harm in having a comprehensive understanding of risks and consequences.

Indeed, you can be injured crossing the road, but if you chose a safe place and look, listen and think, then you are extremely unlikely to get hurt. You can make it as risky as you like though, obviously.

Yes, the car passengers can be hurt and even killed colliding with a bike, but this is much less likely than for the biker.

Indeed, this particular case was wearing a crappy helmet, not a full face one, which would have made a difference, probably.

Definately.

everyones been such a big help..im in 2 minds now on to get a bike or a run around car?

an old quote "4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels moves the soul"

Go for the bike!.. I started off with a bike but also had a soft spott for cars so now I'm living beyond my means with both ...great fun

I love riding bikes. If you're a safe and experienced rider, you can minimise your chances of being in an accident but unfortunately, you can't vouch for other road users, extreme conditions, poor roads, etc, I'd stay away.