i have been advised to get rid of norton antivirus 2005 and get a decent firewall..

im bit of a novice at this kinda thing do you have antivirus AND a firewall?

heres what i have

norton antivirus 2005
ad-adware & spybot
not sure what firewall i have or where settings are!

someone suggested `zone alarm pro' others have said against it...

so who suggests what?

ive just upgraded my comp and finally on broadband (1meg) so im looking to keep things in as good working order as i can from the start.

I'm using:

Antivirus.......AVG7 free edition
Firewall.........Sygate personal firewall (free)

They are both light on system resources and they can be set to auto update. I have been using them for over a year now without any problems.

I also use Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. They actively monitor for spyware and Trojans. They then stop them entering your system in the first place.

Then i have Ad-aware and Spybot search and destroy but they haven't found anything since i started using the above mentioned programs.

Ohh, don't forget to use Firefox Browser ;)

All these programs and more can be found Here (http://www.cbttechs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277)

i use AVG the same as vidster but i use KERIO presonal firewall which is also free for personal use and was recomended by the IT dept at work.

i bought mcafee's anti virus and firewall 2005 as a package from pcworld, took a couple of mins to install, and it has auto updates that u dont need to do anything to. never had a problem. welcome to borrow as they dont need registering.

AVG 7 again

Zone Alarm free edition, only problem that I seem to have is with Winmx chat rooms which is no great loss.

:)

Nod32- virus killer.
Agitnum Outpost- firewall.
Ad-aware- ad and spyware cleaner.

I am running a Linux box for a firewall on an old machine in my cellar. If you have an old pc which you can plug in a couple of network cards, then bobs your uncle, hardware firewall and router all in one. And Linux is much tougher than microsoft and is completely free. You can run the system of a floppy disk if you want! Takes a little effort to get configured, but If I can do it anyone can.

I keep hearing good things about F-Prot?
Is it any good and is it better than Nod32

Im using:

Norton Antivirus Corperate Edition 2005
Windows Firewall
Windows Spyware Remover and Spybot Search & Destroy

No problems atall since i set up the above :D

:: EDIT ::

Oh, and just got Firefox this weekend! Top stuff :thumbsup:

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I am running a Linux box for a firewall on an old machine in my cellar.
That's the other type of firewall. Yours will filter incoming requests but it won't do anything to outgoing traffic. A software firewall will filter both incoming and outgoing.

I'm Using McAfee Secuirity Suite 2005,

everything you need

Firewall
Anti-Spyware
Anti-Virus
Anti-Spam
Privacy service

Good for £50 i reckon, havent had any problems, and it constantly auto-updates which is v. useful too :thumbsup:

I recently moved to McAfee from Sophos, it's nicer to use and spotted half a dozen viruses sohhos had missed.

I also just installed the free Microsoft AntiSpyware from microsoft website, this picked up a few bots of spyware that search and destroy had missed.

Originally posted by Lurch
That's the other type of firewall. Yours will filter incoming requests but it won't do anything to outgoing traffic. A software firewall will filter both incoming and outgoing.
Oh really I never knew, what do you suggest to add to my armour?
I run Norton Antivirus 2004 as well...

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I keep hearing good things about F-Prot?


Don't know.

However (for the benefit of anyone using any F-Secure products) there is an exploit/vunrability in it's ability to work with .ARJ files and users are advised to update.

Details from The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/11/f-secure_patch/) and the F-Secure website (http://www.f-secure.com/security/fsc-2005-1.shtml).

> Vidster

Thanks for the link to your other forum. I already had adaware and spybot but have downloaded everything else you recommend too - that BeClean is a top program :thumbsup:
It seems to have resolved an issue where I couldn't delete my history in XP - not that I have anything to hide you understand I just like to keep everything clean.

Originally posted by spook
> Vidster

Thanks for the link to your other forum. I already had adaware and spybot but have downloaded everything else you recommend too - that BeClean is a top program :thumbsup:
It seems to have resolved an issue where I couldn't delete my history in XP - not that I have anything to hide you understand I just like to keep everything clean.

Glad it was of use spook :thumbsup:

Although if you really want to remove your history you'll need to delete your index files. The only way to do this (that i know of) is to restart your computer in to 'Safe mode with command prompt'.
Log in as Administrator and go to root c:\ by typing cd\
Then type del index.dat/s then enter.
Your index file will be deleted and a new one created when you reboot ;)

I USE F-SECURE AND IT IS VERY GOOD

MACFEE IS ALSO GOOD AND ISN`T TOO HEAVY

CARLOS

I'm a Norton man myself, having had problems with Macafee in the past (lost a lot of work during the great Mcaffee crash of '02)

Norton does slow your system down a bit, but at least that shows it is scanning stuff constantly.

The wife uses AVG. As far as free software goes, it's pretty damned good. No bells or whistles, just does the job. For firewall, she uses Zonealarm.....again...free and good.

Recommend the Microsoft Spyware Guard thingy....it is easy to set up, and constantly updates itself.

Sorry if this one has been done before.

I need to renew my NAV subscription soon, and I am considering changing my Anti Virus software.

What's good ?

I reccomend AVG (www.grisoft.com), they also have a free version which is pretty good. We use them here as a corporate system, and its great. NAV i cannot abide, its too heavyweight for what is a relativly simple task by todays standards.

Joel

Alternatively Avast! is pretty funky. While AVG is good, a few people have had trouble with their latest free offering (me included) so it's always good to have an alternative...

Avast! (http://www.avast.com)

Again, as with AVG, they have a free version.

Norton, the best you can get

Originally posted by SCENIC
Norton, the best you can get

What makes it the best?

I'm concerned about the relative levels of CPU time, on access virus protection eats up.

How do I find out what reduction in performance each anti virus software will have on my PC?

Sophos or NAV :s

for the price of NAV OEM id stick with it. (bout £12 for nav2005)

Originally posted by Jamie
What makes it the best?

The opinion of one (**edit OK maybe 2) person(s) so far...

Jamie & Joel summed up the main problems.

Norton is NOT the best, by a long way. Who IS the best is a matter of personal opinion & circumstances, but Norton are definitely not.

One thing you may want to watch out for though, I've heard of a few problems from people trying to dump Norton (admittedly maybe older versions). Sometimes it doesn't want to go...

Originally posted by Jamie
What makes it the best?

I'm concerned about the relative levels of CPU time, on access virus protection eats up.

How do I find out what reduction in performance each anti virus software will have on my PC?

Agreed, no jusification what-soever. NAV is pretty resource intensive as it tries to be as informative to the user as possible, whereas the likes of AVG just sit there and do its job, and occasionally asks for a button click. NAV has always been the same, its big and bloaty, and tries to do far more then it needs to.

The only way to fine out is try it, download a copy of one, try it for a few days, uninstall it, and try another.

Joel

My Requirements Are:

1) I don't like 'big and bloaty'.
2) Protect against as many viral threats as possible.
3) Does not slow down general running of my PC.
4) Is not too intrusive, doens't keep poping up dialog boxes.


That's about it !!

If anyone can think of any other considerations, do add them to the list.

So ... question still remains ... which AV solutions fits the (my) bill !?

I've used most of the popular AVs, these are my personal opinions:

Norton: Bloatware, slows your PC down, occasionally blocks wrong content, especially some Java.

Sophos: Use this at work. Good but could be better. Good support, but it's very easy to 'trip up' the software and disable it.

AVG: Free, very good.

Antivir: Free, again very good but sometimes struggles to download updates.

McAfee: Also good, been using it for a number of years, never been infected with a virus or trojan. Just got the latest OEM version from Ebay for just £4.

Originally posted by alchresearch


McAfee: Also good, been using it for a number of years, never been infected with a virus or trojan. Just got the latest OEM version from Ebay for just £4.

I use McAfee, and cannot fault it for the cheap OEM prices.

Some helpful links

http://antivirus.about.com/cs/beforeyoubuy/tp/aatpavwin.htm
http://www.hackfix.org/software/antivirus.html
http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,1738,4796,00.asp
http://www.pcw.co.uk/software/antivirus-and-firewalls?page=1

Although remember to take some of the reviews with a pinch of salt,

Joel

Originally posted by Jamie
What's the best Anti Virus software ? Don't go on p0rn sites and you'll be okay.

3 years virus free and no AV !

as mention i find avg very good. and as its free give it a try and see how you find it.

i know since 7 some people had problems updating etc but its been fine for me.

I would really thoroughly recommend Nod32 - www.nod32.com - latest version includes all the spyware stuff. We used to use Norton at work and it slowed down the system tremendously.

Nod has no noticeable difference to speed and I believe it is the only anti virus to have had a 100% record on finding all virus's in tests since 1999 or something. There is a link on their website that gives all that info.

for anyone wanting to get rid of nav and are having problems they do have a download that will do it for you

Originally posted by Joelc
I reccomend AVG (www.grisoft.com), they also have a free version which is pretty good.

I agree AVG is very good.

AVG gets my vote. Low on computer resources. High on protection.
The only time you see any box is when it's updating or when it detects a virus.

I hate 'Snortin' Norton with a passion but i know some people love it.

I cant find the site anywhere now but when I was looking I found a review site that compared the different free and paid for AV software. Stating % viruses found and memory used. Weighing up the two I opted for F-Prot Antivirus. Not free but fairly cheap.

There is going to be a full review of paid for and free antivirus programs in Computer Active's next magazine. I think it's out next week :wink:

Nod32 baby all the way!
Do a google search for it.

And check out the awards it has won + apparently its the safest one going at the moment.

Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Don't go on p0rn sites and you'll be okay.

3 years virus free and no AV !

If you don't have any AV software, how do you *know* you don't have a virus? ;)

Originally posted by rich951
If you don't have any AV software, how do you *know* you don't have a virus? ;)


Linux?

BSD?


Need I go on.......

Originally posted by sccsux
Linux?

BSD?


Need I go on.......
This of course explains why there are now anti-virus products out for Linux...

... and yes I realise it's almost negligible.. but it only takes one.. That said you're not exactly in the n00b category so I guess you might survive ok ;)

found this site this morning it lists free and trials for anti virus and firewall software , hope it helps anyone whos just got a computer or those whos software is about to expire

http://www.freebyte.com/antivirus/#vulnerabilitytests

Zone Alarm - It's Free (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp)


AVG AntiVirus - It's FREE (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1)


Spybot Search & Destroy - It's FREE (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html)


Adaware - It's FREE (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/)


In my opinion, if you have these four packages on yoru PC, your going to be as squeeky clean as little jonny clean pants, who won 1st prize for being clean in the "uk mr clean championships".

all these are good Qball and like you say they are FREE !!!

deecee

Why would you need 4 anti virus/firewall programs on your PC?

Surely Nod32 and Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall would do sufficiently :)

But whatever floats your boat I suppose LOL :)

Originally posted by ANGELUS
Why would you need 4 anti virus/firewall programs on your PC?
Everyone should have three at least; firewall, virus and anti-spyware.

I have:

Hardware firewall in the router,
Zonealarm on each PC to monitor what apps are connecting to the 'net.
Sophos Anti Virus on each PC.
Ad-aware, Spybot and MS Anti-Spyware on each PC.

I keep them all up-to-date and run nightly scans in addition to on-access scanning. I have a similar belt-and-braces philosophy to backups & security patches too.

Perhaps I'm a little paranoid... :)

I have 4 then...

Hardware firewall running through my Wireless Router +
Nod32 Pro
Agnitum Outpost Firewall PRO
+ Protected by Microsoft Antispyware as well..

Its like fort knox :)

Originally posted by QBall
Zone Alarm - It's Free (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp)


AVG AntiVirus - It's FREE (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1)


Spybot Search & Destroy - It's FREE (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html)


Adaware - It's FREE (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/)


In my opinion, if you have these four packages on yoru PC, your going to be as squeeky clean as little jonny clean pants, who won 1st prize for being clean in the "uk mr clean championships".

I prefer to use Sygate Fiewall and Avast anti-virus, but adaware and spybot do a keen job :)

Still format every 3 months tho :thumbsup:

i use this so do all my mates whats more its freee
http://www.avast.com/eng/free_virus_protectio.html

Originally posted by venger
Still format every 3 months tho :thumbsup:


ahhahahahah !!! :clap:

I used tobe like that, nothing runs better than a newly installed PC :) Bloody Windows !!!

Another note regarding spyware, is the subject of false positives!!!

Or placebo viruses !!


SOME packages out there claim to find a load of spyware on your pc then claim its now been removed. Sometimes this is all a load of tish cos they invent some spyware then claim to remove ti when all they are in fact doing is givig you a reaon to pay for the full version.

I did suspect this of Adaware but tried on a new widnows install and all was ok.

The best way to go is to ensure you use something other people praise !!!!

If you rerely hear about it, chance is, its not the best ! If the only way you hear about it is via spam email, chance is, it's crap!

I'm about to be asked to pay for another year of Macafee protection.


Should I?

(I've found it to be a great piece of peace of mind).

Check this out:
http://antivirus.about.com/cs/beforeyoubuy/tp/aatpavwin.htm
As for firewall, I dont see whats wrong with SP2 bundeled one :)

AVG 7
Zone alarm
Adaware SE

Mainly use those but run Spybot every now and again for a bit of variety.

Originally posted by adaline
Check this out:
http://antivirus.about.com/cs/beforeyoubuy/tp/aatpavwin.htm
As for firewall, I dont see whats wrong with SP2 bundeled one :)

the Windows firewall does not check any out going traffic adaline. If you have a virus/keylogger etc it will be transmitting away and the firewall will just ignore it :wink:

Originally posted by vidster
the Windows firewall does not check any out going traffic adaline. If you have a virus/keylogger etc it will be transmitting away and the firewall will just ignore it :wink:
U sure? It didnt alow my http trafic through (i run a testing web server) and i had to bypass it in windows firewall, as well as other "host" programs ;)

Originally posted by adaline
U sure? It didnt alow my http trafic through (i run a testing web server) and i had to bypass it in windows firewall, as well as other "host" programs ;)

Which would be listening for incoming traffic (which XPs firewall forbids) not sending (until a request is made via an incoming packet;)).

Originally posted by sccsux
Which would be listening for incoming traffic (which XPs firewall forbids) not sending (until a request is made via an incoming packet;)).
your right! brain...no....function lol, getting old and confused.

can any one help me i wont a good anti virus but dont know which to get/ At min im usin AVG free edition any one sugest any other wi anti spam

cheers reter41 will have a look mate
:)

Peter, for the past couple of weeks or so, I've noticed that there seems to be quite a few new threads being started re. antivirus and firewall installations, even when a previous thread on the same subject is still near the top of the forum page.....doesn't anybody search anymore:confused:

Yes I have noticed alot of anti-virus threads starting, and the search facility isnt the best one, but putting anti virus throws up alot of threads.

we are using Avast at the moment and it seems really good, it's free and it updates itself. there are probably going to be hoards of people warning me how bad this is now... but it works for me.

was using mcaff and it was up to date but my Pc came down with something nastyansd had to reformat windows!!

Im using avg at the moment. but planning a reformat later on tonite. depending on how installing linux as dual boot goes lol.

is there a comparison list floating around anywhere that lists the pros/cons of the antivirus software?

Originally posted by yosser_huges
Im using avg at the moment. but planning a reformat later on tonite. depending on how installing linux as dual boot goes lol.

is there a comparison list floating around anywhere that lists the pros/cons of the antivirus software?

http://www.claymania.com/anti-virus.html

that might be of some use:)

kaspersky.com :thumbsup:

Mod Note: a number of anti virus threads merged. Please use the search facility before posting!

I've just relaced Norton with AVG and everything is so much faster.

NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/download/trial.htm)......need i say more....download the 30day free trial :)

Originally posted by savannah1
NOD32 (http://www.nod32.com/download/trial.htm)......need i say more....download the 30day free trial :)

AVG AV

Tiny Firewall

Spyware Doctor

Ad-Aware SE

BTW, I got annoyted that after 30 days, I could not use NOD 32 and had to pay out for it - blow that.

Some of the best things in life are worth paying for.....just like me :blush: :wink: Have used AVG free and yes its a excellent AV for a freebie :thumbsup:

Since we're all broadcasting to the world how we secure our computers, here's my setup...

Current anti-virus: None
Current anti-spyware: None
Current personal firewall: None

Yes, I do actually use a computer. It runs Windows XP SP2. It connects to the internet through a variety of networks, wired and wireless.

I experimented with "taking off the condoms", so to speak, just to see how vulnerable my machine would be. After two months of running "bareback" I installed AVG (I own a license) and Spybot for a quick check. No viruses, no spyware.

How could that be? :huh:

PS: A recent debate in Parliament on "Cyber Security" can be read here (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2005-11-23a.474.0).
PPS: Why didn't any anti-virus or anti-spyware products detect (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/the_sony_rootki.html) the Sony rootkit (http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/)?

Originally posted by Journeyman
PPS: Why didn't any anti-virus or anti-spyware products detect (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/11/the_sony_rootki.html) the Sony rootkit (http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/)?


Because it is not a virus. Nor is it a rootkit.

The software in question (Sonys copyright protection) is a cloaking technology that could be used to hide an actual rootkit from Windows.

Originally posted by sccsux
Because it is not a virus. Nor is it a rootkit.

The software in question (Sonys copyright protection) is a cloaking technology that could be used to hide an actual rootkit from Windows.

Fair enough. That makes it malware.

Originally posted by Journeyman
That makes it malware.


Can't argue with that:thumbsup:;)

I have norton on one pc in my house and AVG free on another one, and both have become infected with an annoying trojan, which I am having trouble getting rid of.

Norton doesn't even recognise it, it is the latest fully registered version! Whereas the free AVG program marks the self generated .exe files and deletes them but it doesn't fully disinfect the whole hard drive as it comes back again every time the PC boots up in normal operation mode.

I will not be renewing norton after this, I have often found one anti-virus program finding threats which the other doesn't but this one seems a bit too serious.

Does anyone have any suggestions for the best free fully operational trojan removing program ?

thanks

Depends on the trojan, there are a number of removal tools depending on what it is. First of all though (as long as you're on a relatively up to date XP machine) find & run...

c:\windows\system32\MRT.exe

Its a complicated thing this virus protection thing isn't it.
I have McAfee (free from uni)
Zone labs , Zonealarm, firewall thingy (free)
Sometimes do a anti-spy Yahoo thing
and just downloaded Ad Aware SE

Is this enough? Too much?

Unless you are, oooh, for example, downloading dodgy stuff which keeps infecting your PC with further dodgy stuff & making you have to keep re-installing every 8 weeks (who me? :blush: *ahem*) that lot should be fine.

Everyone seems to have different preferences as to anti-spyware software, but Ad Aware is a pretty decent all-round package as far as I know. Don't use it personally, but haven't heard anything against it.

I have norton on one pc in my house and AVG free on another one, and both have become infected with an annoying trojan, which I am having trouble getting rid of.

Norton doesn't even recognise it, it is the latest fully registered version! Whereas the free AVG program marks the self generated .exe files and deletes them but it doesn't fully disinfect the whole hard drive as it comes back again every time the PC boots up in normal operation mode.

I will not be renewing norton after this, I have often found one anti-virus program finding threats which the other doesn't but this one seems a bit too serious.

Does anyone have any suggestions for the best free fully operational trojan removing program ?

thanks


Another reason not to have anything to do with Nortons and also free anti-virus packages!!

Just because AVG is free- does not mean its going to be brilliant.

NOD32 is they way you want to go: I should get paid by them for the advertising I reckon :)

You would not get ANYTHING come through its system when its running properly- it detects EVERYTHING.

Give it a whirl- see what I mean- you can use it for a 30 days trial to see how good it is- download it and give it a try even to clean up your PC before you ditch the program.

Couple NOD32 with Agnitum firewall and you are laughing.

Another reason not to have anything to do with Nortons and also free anti-virus packages!!

Just because AVG is free- does not mean its going to be brilliant.

NOD32 is they way you want to go: I should get paid by them for the advertising I reckon :)

You would not get ANYTHING come through its system when its running properly- it detects EVERYTHING.

Give it a whirl- see what I mean- you can use it for a 30 days trial to see how good it is- download it and give it a try even to clean up your PC before you ditch the program.

Couple NOD32 with Agnitum firewall and you are laughing.

I don't like AVG - it's a pain in the backside!

I had Avast but outed it, as it kept constantly bouncing mail back to Outlook, and would give up if I fed it several attachments.

I now use NOD 32, with Safety.Net FW.

:)

I don't like AVG - it's a pain in the backside!

I had Avast but outed it, as it kept constantly bouncing mail back to Outlook, and would give up if I fed it several attachments.

I now use NOD 32, with Safety.Net FW.

:)

Nice one mate!!
What do you think to Nod32 so far then?
And how would you compare it to say - AVG?

Nice one mate!!
What do you think to Nod32 so far then?
And how would you compare it to say - AVG?

Much better - the first time I had NOD 32 was a trial, but I've paid out now - it's a dream.

AVG would never update properly - this one gets on with it, and at least I can feed it umpteen attachments through Outlook and it sends, with AVG and Avast it was a b ugger.

L)

Much better - the first time I had NOD 32 was a trial, but I've paid out now - it's a dream.

AVG would never update properly - this one gets on with it, and at least I can feed it umpteen attachments through Outlook and it sends, with AVG and Avast it was a bugger.

L)

Another convert to the magic of Nod32 :thumbsup:
Big pat on the back for you mate.

Now we just need to convince the rest of the forum...

Another convert to the magic of Nod32 :thumbsup:
Big pat on the back for you mate.

Now we just need to convince the rest of the forum...

I know - unfortunately, they all see AVG as the first result in "free antivrus" on Google.

Get NOD 32 gang! ;)

Where does one get NOD 32 from ? any links ?

Free 30day trial from here (http://www.nod32uk.com/home/home.htm)

no anti virus detects EVERYTHING
nod32 aint free, avg is
i bet not many people installed avg just cos they found it at the top of the list on google, i didnt

it was through word of mouth by tech savvy people on forums and in irc
aswell as very good scores in magazine reviews........beating norton and macaffee if i remmeber rightly

no anti virus detects EVERYTHING
nod32 aint free, avg is
i bet not many people installed avg just cos they found it at the top of the list on google, i didnt

it was through word of mouth by tech savvy people on forums and in irc
aswell as very good scores in magazine reviews........beating norton and macaffee if i remmeber rightly

I bring AVG owners to this website
http://www.techsupportalert.com/free-vs-paid-av.htm

AVG is not as good as you think my friends.
See what is at the top for stopping everything in its tracks.

AV Performance Tests

The folks over at Virus Bulletin regularly test the ability of the major AV products to detect currently circulating viruses - their "100 Top Viruses in the Wild." They award their VB100 rating to AV products that detect all 100 in any given month.

Over a period of time it's possible to tabulate how often individual AV products receive the VB100 award. Here are the results for some major AV products from 2003 onwards:
Nod32 10/10 100%
Norton 9/9 100%
F-Secure 9/9 100%
Trend 8/8 100%
Kaspersky 9/11 82%
McAfee 8/10 80%
AVG 6/8 75%
Norman 7/10 70%
F-Prot 6/9 67%
Avast 6/9 67%

At first take this is not comforting news for users of the free Avast and AVG products nor indeed for any user of the lower ranked products. More so when you consider that we are talking about the ability of these products to detect viruses and worms that were in mass circulation at the time of the tests.

Try also doing a google search for NOD32 vs AVG and I'm sure you will find NOD32 beats the crap out of it im more ways than one.

Just because AVG is free- dont be fooled into thinking its the best friends!

I bring AVG owners to this website
http://www.techsupportalert.com/free-vs-paid-av.htm

AVG is not as good as you think my friends.
See what is at the top for stopping everything in its tracks.



Try also doing a google search for NOD32 vs AVG and I'm sure you will find NOD32 beats the crap out of it im more ways than one.

Just because AVG is free- dont be fooled into thinking its the best friends!

well for a start every other poll ive read puts norton way down the list, way lower than 8/10
and i wouldnt have any av at 10/10 cos as ive already said, NO AV detects EVERYTHING
and thats a dangerous thing to get into your head cos you let your guard down and stop doing the other things which keep you safe

Much better - the first time I had NOD 32 was a trial, but I've paid out now - it's a dream.

AVG would never update properly - this one gets on with it, and at least I can feed it umpteen attachments through Outlook and it sends, with AVG and Avast it was a b ugger.

L)
As you know, I use AVG free, and have never had any of the problems you mention, Alex. In fact the only problem I have ever had with attachments in Outlook or Outlook Express was when I had the settings wrong on OE or OL. My AVG updates daily, in the background, and doesn't interrupt anything I'm doing. It scans daily without any problem also.

I know of one occasion when AVG picked up a virus which it couldn't quarantine, but when I ran a Symantec scan in the hope that that could get rid, it didn't find it. I managed to find the file(s) in which the virus was hiding, and got rid that way.

Up until today, I'd never heard of Nod 32. However, Yahoo Mail uses AVG....I don't know whether that's a recommendation or not.

Btw Angelus, I notice that you haven't referred to what it says later in that article you were quoting, in which it says that those results may be deceptive, etc.

AVG is an excellent product for most users ....just stay away from the not so good sites and i cant see any problems.
If you want paid for av then NOD32 is awesome and imho the one to go for. :thumbsup:

NOD32 setup and forum (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509)