View Full Version : My photographs of orbs - can anyone explain them?


adlinds
03-02-2005, 19:36
Some friends of ours are currently living in a huge 16th century house in Lincolshire, it's pretty much empty and they are just house sitting until the owner gets back from America.

We stayed there for a night and as it looks like the kind of place that would be haunted I took my camera along to see if I could capture anything. Here are best pics that I took, can anyone else see a face in the orb on my friends back?

http://photobucket.com/albums/v111/adlinds/

If anyone else has good pics of orbs post them on here for us to see.

Lestat
03-02-2005, 19:37
tell you what, give us your password and then we can tell you!:hihi:

adlinds
03-02-2005, 19:39
it's just been made public so you should be able to see it now, can you

Chord
03-02-2005, 19:41
Hi,

I am having difficulty in viewing your picture.

Whilst we were renovating a previous property we had loads of orbs on the picture's. What made it strange was the fact that in one of the photographs there's the face of (the stereotypical) Jesus!

Period Living and Traditional Homes Magazine wanted to do a feature about it, but we were non too keen on the publicity.

I also share my current home with orbs, there's lots of them in the house we live in now - they come out to play every evening!

How nice!

Janey

Chord
03-02-2005, 19:42
Orbs 'Yeah - a Know'

Love the avatar!

Janey

Lestat
03-02-2005, 19:46
Excellent pics Adlinds! that room with the fireplace looks as spooky as hell anyway don't you think? . . .

adlinds
03-02-2005, 19:48
The room with the fireplace feels horrible as you go in, its a room in the basement. It's the only room that feels this way. There are bars on the window and the door is re-enforced with steel. I'm not sure what went on in there but it doesnt have a nice feel at all.

gemma86
03-02-2005, 19:49
I don't think I believe in orbs because I've taken pictures at concerts at the arena and in some there's LOADS of them in one photo. It seems to depend on the light.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/concertpix/dside2611/016.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/concertpix/dside2611/019.jpg
They also show up worse on the full size versions of the pictures.

Lestat
03-02-2005, 20:06
Cool! Rock & Roll Orbs!:cool: :thumbsup: think they might be Roy Orb-ison's?

Phanerothyme
03-02-2005, 20:16
'orbs'....

dust reflecting flash, causing 'mini-lens flare'

try same pics without flash - presto! no orbs.

This is an increasingly common phenomenon because many digicams have the flash located very near the lens, and very small apertures which improve focus.

Fujifilm have a bit on it here http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/tips/reflect/

and you can read a previous thread here - http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3846&highlight=orbs (clue: search site for "orbs"!)

It is unlikely, on the balance of probabilities, to be caused by paranormal activity.

adlinds
03-02-2005, 20:20
I took some pictures without the flash because i thought thats what it could be, but the orbs were still there on those pics.
I have taken hundreds of pics with that camera both with and without the flash and the only ones with orbs are in that house.
Strange.

gemma86
03-02-2005, 20:20
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
'orbs'....

dust reflecting flash, causing 'mini-lens flare'

try same pics without flash - presto! no orbs.

This is an increasingly common phenomenon because many digicams have the flash located very near the lens, and very small apertures which improve focus.

Fujifilm have a bit on it here http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/tips/reflect/

and you can read a previous thread here - http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3846&highlight=orbs (clue: search site for "orbs"!)

It is unlikely, on the balance of probabilities, to be caused by paranormal activity.

Funny how on Most Haunted (which is where most of my paranormal knowledge comes from!) that they have those guys who find other ways of explaining things, yet I don't think they have actually brought up the actual reason for it, they've just mentioned it in passing in the first ones "it could be....."

Lestat
03-02-2005, 20:24
Originally posted by gemma86
Funny how on Most Haunted (which is where most of my paranormal knowledge comes from!) that they have those guys who find other ways of explaining things, yet I don't think they have actually brought up the actual reason for it, they've just mentioned it in passing in the first ones "it could be....."

But dont they catch them on infra red camera's though? . .the night vision thingymajiggs?? . . how do you explain that?

Phan - you mean they're NOT Mr Orbisons?:sad:

gemma86
03-02-2005, 20:28
Originally posted by Lestat
But dont they catch them on infra red camera's though? . .the night vision thingymajiggs?? . . how do you explain that?

Phan - you mean they're NOT Mr Orbisons?:sad:
I'm not sure how infra red cameras work, but there's got to be some sort of light being transmitted for it to be able to pick stuff up - looking at infra red film it does look like something's highly reflecting off an object sometimes. I think the cameras use some sort of invisible light. Anyone know for sure?

fyybj
03-02-2005, 21:01
The first ones are probably caused by light reflecting from the crystal hanging from the chandelier. The other one could be dust or dirt on the lens.

fyybj
03-02-2005, 21:08
Originally posted by gemma86
I'm not sure how infra red cameras work, but there's got to be some sort of light being transmitted for it to be able to pick stuff up - looking at infra red film it does look like something's highly reflecting off an object sometimes. I think the cameras use some sort of invisible light. Anyone know for sure?

The NightShot cameras work by emitting infrared light from two LEDs on the front of the camera; the infrared light is reflected back to the camera lens and picked up by a Charge Coupled Device (CCD) that's similar to those found in all video cameras.

In total darkness, the infrared light reflects off most objects, and any warm object will emit infrared light of its own as well.

Taken from http://www.wired.com

muddycoffee
03-02-2005, 21:11
Yeah you can easily get orbs with digital cameras. My cousin's wedding pics were full of them until I told them about the problems. The relatives were getting themselves into a right lather about it..

I think the fact that digital cameras have cheap lenses doesn't help. I took many hundreds of photos with proper 35mm film using SLR [now known as TTL] cameras with interchangeable lenses, and with more expensive lenses you get skylight filters and hoods to stop spurious lighting effects.

I never got any orbs with film.

gemma86
03-02-2005, 21:16
Originally posted by fyybj
The NightShot cameras work by emitting infrared light from two LEDs on the front of the camera; the infrared light is reflected back to the camera lens and picked up by a Charge Coupled Device (CCD) that's similar to those found in all video cameras.

In total darkness, the infrared light reflects off most objects, and any warm object will emit infrared light of its own as well.

Taken from http://www.wired.com

So it is the same reason that we see orbs on night-vision as we do on digital cameras.
Ta

mega_monty
03-02-2005, 21:38
Originally posted by gemma86
So it is the same reason that we see orbs on night-vision as we do on digital cameras.
Ta

If you get a remote control from your TV or Stereo system etc and fire at your digital camera or movie cam, you will see it pulsing bursts of white light as your camera will pick up up the tansmitted infra red light.

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 22:22
Orbs and digital camera change depending on the type you use, in our group I know which camera will pick up orbs dust particles or what ever you want to call them. A zoom camera will pick up less orbs than a fixed lens. Infrared or night vision Camera use a very bright light but is invisable to the naked eye and also picks up orbs. But out of the 100% of pictures of orbs you take there is always that 1% you cannot account for. Also you will know in a room weather your going to pick up dust or moisture, its not just down to the picture its what you feel in the room.:thumbsup:

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 22:24
Originally posted by muddycoffee
Yeah you can easily get orbs with digital cameras. My cousin's wedding pics were full of them until I told them about the problems. The relatives were getting themselves into a right lather about it..

I think the fact that digital cameras have cheap lenses doesn't help. I took many hundreds of photos with proper 35mm film using SLR [now known as TTL] cameras with interchangeable lenses, and with more expensive lenses you get skylight filters and hoods to stop spurious lighting effects.

I never got any orbs with film. I have a few old black and white film of orbs, so you can get them with a 35mm camera as well even outside with no flash.:)

Phanerothyme
03-02-2005, 22:35
Originally posted by Bikertec
I have a few old black and white film of orbs, so you can get them with a 35mm camera as well even outside with no flash.:)

please post them.

Do you know of occam's razor?

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 22:40
Ok one of them is on our site at http://www.sheffieldparanormal.co.uk/website/album/slides/OLDPHOTOCRYPT.html and another one is in an old book about derbyshire. As for occam's razor I have no idea what that is. The others I will have to search out.:thumbsup:

gemma86
03-02-2005, 22:47
Originally posted by Bikertec
Ok one of them is on our site at http://www.sheffieldparanormal.co.uk/website/album/slides/OLDPHOTOCRYPT.html and another one is in an old book about derbyshire. As for occam's razor I have no idea what that is. The others I will have to search out.:thumbsup:

I've just been looking at your site and it's really interesting.
The picture of Anston stones with all the mist is amazing. Is it something paranormal or just some fog *please excuse my ignorance, I'm not all toegtehr well up on this stuff!*

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 22:56
Originally posted by gemma86
I've just been looking at your site and it's really interesting.
The picture of Anston stones with all the mist is amazing. Is it something paranormal or just some fog *please excuse my ignorance, I'm not all toegtehr well up on this stuff!* We didn't see any fog or mist while we were there. Most of the photos or taken at random and away from the face because you can get some very good creepy pictures by using the eye piece and breathing out, the flash takes a picture of you breath and looks very spooky.:thumbsup:

Tracie
03-02-2005, 23:13
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
please post them.

Do you know of occam's razor?

The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is usually the correct one...

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 23:16
Originally posted by TracieJC
The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is usually the correct one... Now I'm totally confused.:confused: :(

Tracie
03-02-2005, 23:22
Originally posted by Bikertec
Now I'm totally confused.:confused: :(

:P Its an idea used in science a lot... if you make an observation and have to explain it then of all the possible explanations you have, the simplest one is most likely to be true. So, if you see an orb in a photograph and try and explain why it is there then by Occams Razor the most simple straightforward explanation is most likely to be correct. In the case of the orbs, reflection of light from dust etc is probably the most straightforward reasoning, hence it is most likely to be true. The existance of a ball of energy or a 'ghost' is the more complicated possibility of the two, so it is less likely to be true.

Bikertec
03-02-2005, 23:25
Originally posted by TracieJC
:P Its an idea used in science a lot... if you make an observation and have to explain it then of all the possible explanations you have, the simplest one is most likely to be true. So, if you see an orb in a photograph and try and explain why it is there then by Occams Razor the most simple straightforward explanation is most likely to be correct. In the case of the orbs, reflection of light from dust etc is probably the most straightforward reasoning, hence it is most likely to be true. The existance of a ball of energy or a 'ghost' is the more complicated possibility of the two, so it is less likely to be true. I see thank you most enlightning:thumbsup:

Ant
04-02-2005, 07:46
There's an easy way to take orb pictures. I have a squirty bottle that I use for ironing which produces a fine spray of water. With a very brief squirt, take a flash photograph very close to the mist droplets that are drifting down. It's as simple as that. I can get much the same effect by shaking a dusty cloth above the camera.

And have you ever tried taking a flash photograph in fog? You'll get hundreds of orbs of varying sizes, many of them containing the faces of Blazin' Squad. Try it. There's no mystery.

Phan's explanation hit the nail on the head.

I have a few old black and white film of orbs, so you can get them with a 35mm camera as well even outside with no flash.

Yes, it is possible to get orbs on SLRs without flash, I've captured one or two myself. But I can't see the logic in their appearance supporting any sort of paranormal origin. I would have thought they were caused by a light source (yes, even the sun) illuminating a water particle in a similar way to that of a flash - we've all seen dust particles in a room glint every now and then as they float around.

Some of the orbs shots I have can be seen here (http://photobucket.com/albums/v631/Antsphotos/)
In order, they show:

1. Jon surrounded by hundreds of orbs at Stocksbridge bypass - taken on a very foggy evening. I thinks it's fairly safe to say that he's not surrounded by legions of the dead, but by moisture droplets making up the fog.

2. and 3. An eerie mist captured at Wentworth graveyard one very early morning - the sort of eerie mist that can be seen on countless paranormal websites. This was caused by water vapour from my breath as I breathed out when taking the pictures. Note that nothing could be seen of our breath when we took the shots (we have dozens like it), but the flash was obviously illuminating it sufficiently enough to create an opaque mist. Lovely. But not paranormal.

4. and 5. Two images taken by me on my compact digital camera - mist from a spray bottle was sprayed in front of the lens as the shots were taken. The first (with suppressed flash) shows no orbs. The second (with flash) highlights about half a dozen orbs.