come on, many of you seem to know it well. I've lived in Sheffield for about 8 years and still have never been on it, drank on it, worked near it or driven down it


;o)

Eccleshall is in the Midlands, somewhere near Stafford I believe, so it's no wonder that you haven't been on a road named after it here. (despite the mis-spelling of Ecclesall Road as "Eccleshall" -sic- on many maps)

(*dons tin-hat*)

I think it's close to Bramhall Lane isn't it?

Even in Eccleshall (which is pronounced as eccle-shawl btw) there's no Eccleshall Road. I grew up about 5 miles from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesall_Road

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=S118jb&ie=UTF8&ll=53.374061,-1.479549&spn=0.012494,0.039911&z=15&om=1

Thats the bottom end in the map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesall_Road

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=S118jb&ie=UTF8&ll=53.374061,-1.479549&spn=0.012494,0.039911&z=15&om=1

Thats the bottom end in the map

I think sarcasm is lost on some people...

indeed.

Anybody fancy a drink? I'm going to the pub on Salter Lane.

Definitely - you can't beat the Salter Tavern.

oh i dunno. The Brumehill Tav does a good ginniss.

I like the Bannor Cross Pub. (and spam threads like this one)

The Powlish Club is quite nice, my local used to be the Nersary Tavurn.

Ooh, t020 would chuck such a wobbly at this thread if he was still around.. There is NO H in Ecclesall! :lol:

There is NO H in Ecclesall! :lol:

You don't do sarcasm very well do you...:rolleyes:

you'll be telling me there's no P in Shefpfield next....

Eccleshall is in the Midlands, somewhere near Stafford I believe....

Even in Eccleshall (which is pronounced as eccle-shawl btw) there's no Eccleshall Road.

the eccleshall road, otherwise known as the A5013, runs from the the outskirts of stafford town centre to all the way out to eccleshall.

it is called the eccleshall road all the way through cresswell, great bridgeford and little bridgeford but as medusa quite rightly says....but not into eccleshall.

im really not that sad, im just a staffordian.


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You're all at Loggerheads (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=52.917604~-2.387252&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&encType=1)!

Even on the google map it is mis-spelt!

Definitely - you can't beat the Salter Tavern.

I'll take that with a pinch of "Psalt"
:hihi: :hihi:

Whether spelt Ecclesall or Eccleshall, I would take issue with the pronunciation of the latter as Eccle-shawl, though I suppose many people there will nowut in fact pronounce it that way, because of the spelling and their literacy. This has happened to many placenames where s and h come together and people are tempted to take that as meaning the sh sound as in shawl. But in fact originally they were separate sounds, the s being the final sound of one syllable and the h the first of the next. Compare Lewisham, Horsham, Cosham and other such places, where the -ham element is from Old English for a settlement. So Lewisham should really be taken as Lewis-ham and they were so called before literacy became so widespread.

In both Ecclesall and Eccleshall, therefore, the Eccles is separate from the rest, and Eccles derives from the Latin word ecclesia (church)--which we also find in the Welsh word eglws. Such placenames may go back even beyond Anglo-Saxon times, to early Christian pockets in Roman-British times, since the Anglo-Saxons preferred the word cirice (which has come into English as church), derived from Greek kuriakos (compare the word kirk, the Norse parallel, which occurs in so many northern names).

Not that any of this will have the slightest effect on people pronouncing the names as they think fit (just as Pontefract is now pronounced as spelt, even though you find it as Pomfret in Shakespeare). Still, I thought readers might be interested in the facts...

This is your Forum pedant signing out...

Whether spelt Ecclesall or Eccleshall, I would take issue with the pronunciation of the latter as Eccle-shawl, though I suppose many people there will nowut in fact pronounce it that way, because of the spelling and their literacy

i appreciate where youre coming from with this argument- but eccleshall will remain eccleshawl as far as most staffordians are concerned....in fact, probably the whole county!

however, i will admit that my favourite type of liquorice are pomfret cakes (my mum taught me the correct pronunciation for them ;))


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i remember the ecclesall non pots club one day a act never turned up he rang 30mins later and said he was in eccleshall and could not find the club of course he was in staffordshire and not sheffield

i appreciate where youre coming from with this argument- but eccleshall will remain eccleshawl as far as most staffordians are concerned....in fact, probably the whole county!



Hear hear Sophie!

i remember the ecclesall non pots club one day a act never turned up he rang 30mins later and said he was in eccleshall and could not find the club of course he was in staffordshire and not sheffield

Ahh, the non-pots. Miss that place.