View Full Version : Diesel prices going crazy
manzmanz 27-11-2007, 17:24 Ive just driven past the Texaco filling station on Ecclesall Road (the one on the right after Hunters Bar as you head towards Banner Cross) and diesel there is one almost £1.11 per litre £1.10.9 per litre
is this the dearest diesel in Sheffield?
Draggletail 27-11-2007, 18:37 I live nearby, and yes, it probably is the dearest diesel in sheffield.
The other filling stations are about £1.08 I think.
Been a big sudden increase in diesel :(
Bikertec 27-11-2007, 18:41 Bloody crazy the one at the Top of Herries road is going up every other day. What happen to when only fuel went up with the budget.:huh:
the fuel companies have been waiting for the £1 barrier to be broken for ages - its now open season on us motorists.
Draggletail 27-11-2007, 22:08 A mate of mine (Green Party candidate the last couple of years) was telling me that now it's actually legal to mix veg oil with your diesel, but there are no guidelines/laws as to how much is permissible :suspect:
The cheapest veg oil is £11.00 per 20 Litres.
BTW, It's considered *possibly* better for your diesel engine to use professionally produced Bio Diesel (still made from veg oil, but 'chemistri-ised' a bit with acid or something. Trouble is, it's not much cheaper than ordinary diesel :roll:
Dave h-j 27-11-2007, 22:26 A mate of mine (Green Party candidate the last couple of years) was telling me that now it's actually legal to mix veg oil with your diesel, but there are no guidelines/laws as to how much is permissible :suspect:
Yes there is. From 1st July 2007, the first 2,500 litres of veg oil that you rproduce is free from duty. Anything after this requires duty to be paid. You are suppsed to keep records for all duty-free fuel you use as evidence to HMRC in case they ask for them..
As for ratios - you need to be careful as veg oil is thicker than diesel (so think of your fuel pump) - plus it may confuse any onboard fuel management systems...
EDIT: Can't find the link as the HMRC site is down for maintainace
mr_busdriver 27-11-2007, 22:31 I do wonder.
In future, will diesel be double the cost of petrol, maybe the govermnents not happy with the fact some vehicles do 60+MPG, and so tax revenue is less.
The way Diesel is going up, is really a worry, it must have increased by 10p+ per litre in the last month (or 45p per gallon)
LadySmith 27-11-2007, 22:33 It's still cheaper than bottled water, stop moaning.
Dave h-j 27-11-2007, 22:36 I do wonder.
In future, will diesel be double the cost of petrol, maybe the govermnents not happy with the fact some vehicles do 60+MPG, and so tax revenue is less.
The way Diesel is going up, is really a worry, it must have increased by 10p+ per litre in the last month (or 45p per gallon)
Well petrol is also increasing in price. Around 106p I can see.. Plus no duty/tax has been increased, so this is all extra passed on from the suppliers..
However, I also agree that now the psychological £1 barrier has been broken, that it's easier to increase prices..
getto_sniper 27-11-2007, 22:38 looks like its time for some veggie oil in tank
mr_busdriver 27-11-2007, 22:39 It's still cheaper than bottled water, stop moaning.
Stop winding people up :hihi:
upholder 27-11-2007, 22:41 Plus no duty/tax has been increased, so this is all extra passed on from the supplier..
Don't forget that the higher the price per litre the higher the VAT take is.
The treasury are raking it in.
A mate of mine (Green Party candidate the last couple of years) was telling me that now it's actually legal to mix veg oil with your diesel, but there are no guidelines/laws as to how much is permissible
My landrover has been running on it 50/50 for years :hihi:
glad we are moving to Bulgaria 08 diesel price is 60p Lt. just shows you how much tax we pay in the country
Draggletail 27-11-2007, 22:49 Yes there is. From 1st July 2007, the first 2,500 litres of veg oil that you rproduce is free from duty. Anything after this requires duty to be paid. You are suppsed to keep records for all duty-free fuel you use as evidence to HMRC in case they ask for them..
As for ratios - you need to be careful as veg oil is thicker than diesel (so think of your fuel pump) - plus it may confuse any onboard fuel management systems...
EDIT: Can't find the link as the HMRC site is down for maintainace
Thanks for the confirmation/info.
If anyone is thinking of using used chip shop oil and filtering it before mixing with diesel, be very careful - I thought I'd researched the subject well, bought a 50 micron bag filter bag -and came unstuck (or rather broken down on Millhouses Lane) :roll:
I'd only used four X 20 lites filtered veg mixed 50:50 diesel - put it this way, after doing my sums on the savings I was quids down after the tow in and repairs.
Stick with new oil, and try to research it! I'm so put off now, I just do 'straight diesel' :D
BTW the use of this may invalidate any warranty on your vehicle.
Draggletail 27-11-2007, 22:55 My landrover has been running on it 50/50 for years :hihi:
Can I ask - pure unused oil? Not recycled stuff from the chippy?
(see my post above) :)
get some cherry http://specials.ft.com/budget2002/FT3J0L7H80D.html
get some cherry http://specials.ft.com/budget2002/FT3J0L7H80D.html
Using red diesel in a vehicle on the road (apart from a tractor moving between fields via the road) is illegal and is likely to result in your vehicle being seized as a penalty and criminal charges being brought against you.
er its not is it here's be benny been rideing round in the fields too long hoooo heckles
http://specials.ft.com/budget2002/FT3J0L7H80D.html
gravity-slave 28-11-2007, 05:52 Veggie oil is an option - and increasingly tempting - but a word of caution before anyone bangs it in the tank. Even fresh stuff can destroy some engines. More modern CDi engines are more fussy than older one.
Do the research carefully and also Google 'ring gumming' as this is a hidden and progressive problem than can lead to total and sudden engine failure.
However, there's lot of success stories too so if you give it a whirl, good luck!
alchresearch 28-11-2007, 07:38 There is far more to just sticking veggie oil into your car. First of all you can't normally just run on 100% veggie oil - especially waste oil. Secondly if your engine is post 1997 or 'common rail' or an injection, I'd say forget it. And if your car has a Lucas fuel pump, also forget it. There are also issues with heating the oil that need to be addressed.
You need a pre 1997 (maybe even older) car with a Bosch pump, use about 30% oil to 70% diesel in winter, possibly a 50% mix during summer.
Some people fit a second tank - one running normal diesel for starting and warming up the engine, before switching to the veggie oil tank.
Diesel and petrol have gone up as OPEC have throttled back oil pumping as a big F U at Bush and Blair. BP, Shell, Texaco and the rest are minnows compared to OPEC in terms of oil production, which means the wholesale cost of oil is out of "big" oil's control, and the retail price is minimised due to forecourt competition.
Blame Hugo Chavez and the tax man for the high cost of fuel.
Classic Rock 28-11-2007, 09:45 Get an LPG vehicle. I just pay 44p a litre on my fuel.
I avoid the BP garage on Leppings Lane who bumped up LPG prices to 58p a litre for no apparent reason.
Can I ask - pure unused oil? Not recycled stuff from the chippy?
(see my post above) :)
Mith my landrover being ex MOD it has the uprated bosch fuel pump and because its tax exempt too im quids in, I can use pure unused oil at 50/50 also as winter sets in i put 1/2 liter of unledded in a full tank which stops it from getting too cold and maybe freezeing. And the old girl loves it she just smells like a chip van thats all :hihi:, at the moment shes waiting for a new gear box from a series 3 so she wont be ready this winter :(
alchresearch 28-11-2007, 09:51 And the old girl loves it she just smells like a chip van thats all :hihi:,
And I tell you what, when you're walking to work having one of these passing you smells far more preferable to a normal gas-guzzler!
Ive just driven past the Texaco filling station on Ecclesall Road (the one on the right after Hunters Bar as you head towards Banner Cross) and diesel there is one almost £1.11 per litre £1.10.9 per litre
is this the dearest diesel in Sheffield?
I've also noticed that this garage seems to charge 4/5p more for diesel than anyone else - is it down to the location, or Texaco having problems with supply, or both??
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