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Guderian
26-11-2007, 14:44
Lets have some votes for the next England football gaffer...

UrbanCaveman
26-11-2007, 14:48
I voted Capello, I like him.

Not sure why though, it's a bit confusing as there doesn't seem to be a logical reason to.

Guderian
26-11-2007, 14:49
The fact he wins things????!!!

UrbanCaveman
26-11-2007, 14:52
It might be that,:hihi: it's not that much of a good measure though is it, really?

You've got to look at what he had to work with and what he will have to work with if he ends up as manager

NEKRO138
26-11-2007, 14:56
I've gone for Capello. He's got the sort of pedigree England need to turn things around. Redknapp's a great manager, but he's a wheeler dealer above everything else, not a tactician and motivator.

I wouldn't mind if Klinsmann was given a go.

LFCMadPaul
26-11-2007, 15:03
I have plumped for Redknapp!

I think he would be a great choice. A great man-manager that always seems to get the best out of the players that he has, which is exactly what we need. We need our players to all play to the best of their ability, and with confidence! I think Harry could deliver this!

Heyesey
26-11-2007, 15:06
The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe it frankly doesn't matter a hoot. McLaren is widely accepted as having been completely useless; and yet we were only one lucky free-kick in injury time away from qualifying for Euro 2008. At least four times in the last twelve years, we've been exactly that distance away from NOT qualifying. (Beckham's free-kick against Greece: Italy missing an open goal in the last ten minutes: Poland hitting the crossbar with a shot that would've eliminated us if it went in...)

If the difference between a decent England manager and a rubbish one is so small that a lucky free-kick one way or the other could leave them both with exactly the same record ... is there actually any difference?

UrbanCaveman
26-11-2007, 15:19
The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe it frankly doesn't matter a hoot. McLaren is widely accepted as having been completely useless; and yet we were only one lucky free-kick in injury time away from qualifying for Euro 2008. At least four times in the last twelve years, we've been exactly that distance away from NOT qualifying. (Beckham's free-kick against Greece: Italy missing an open goal in the last ten minutes: Poland hitting the crossbar with a shot that would've eliminated us if it went in...)

If the difference between a decent England manager and a rubbish one is so small that a lucky free-kick one way or the other could leave them both with exactly the same record ... is there actually any difference?

or maybe it's been a LONG time since we had a good manager to notice the effect?

Heyesey
26-11-2007, 15:25
or maybe it's been a LONG time since we had a good manager to notice the effect?

There's not many around better than Eriksson.

UrbanCaveman
26-11-2007, 15:27
There's not many around better than Eriksson.

I'm not so sure, I accept he's doing wonders at City but international footbal must be a whole different kettle of fish to a week in week out football league.

Not that I've managed either so won't claim to be an expert :P

Ally68
26-11-2007, 15:38
My vote goes for Klinnsmann. He worked a miracle on a very average German team. Before last years world cup German football was in the same position England now find themselves in. He brought in young players and installed pride and belief in the team and they went on to have a very successful World Cup.

Maybe he might even let us in on the secret of winning on penalties. :hihi:

Heyesey
26-11-2007, 17:01
Maybe he might even let us in on the secret of winning on penalties. :hihi:


Maybe the problem is that we think there's some secret to being able to hit an area a foot wide, from only twelve yards away, given a dead ball. All it really takes is a level of skill that should be adequately manifested by a schoolboy player, and yet our highly-paid professionals manage to botch it.

Agent Gypo
26-11-2007, 18:34
I went for Capello. I don't think Mourinho is interested.

madowl
26-11-2007, 18:50
as Gypo said... Fabio Capello !!

Heyesey
26-11-2007, 18:57
as Gypo said... Fabio Capello !!

How much of a problem is it likely to be that his English is very poor? That's the only conceivable quibble against him.

Longcol
26-11-2007, 20:45
My main concern about Capello is why no top club (especially Italian) has been after him since he was given the push by Real - do they consider him too difficult to work with or past his sell by date? Certainly his real pomp at AC Milan was a good dozen years ago when they won the Champions league.

I wonder if his enthusiasm for the England job, which is too OTT for my liking, is footballing or looking for a nice pension.

steveb2007
26-11-2007, 20:47
What about Martin Jol?
He's an outside bet for me.

mat1978
26-11-2007, 21:38
Id love to see Gus Hiddink, but as we saw with the Mclaren debacle hes not going to be interested. From the options I chose Cappello, Mourinho, as someone said wont come. Not convinced by Redknapp at all hes no proven consistent record.

Its a strange one really, you think of the brillint club managers like Ericsson and Taylor have been amongst the worst England Managers. Perhaps this shows how ****e the England team really is?

If were talking fantasy, then Id choose Wenger or even Ferguson.

Longcol
26-11-2007, 23:04
I'd like Sparky Hughes to be considered - he got Wales to punch well above their weight, is doing the same with Blackburn, he understands the English game and can manage "difficult" players - look how well he's brought Bentley on. He engages brain before gob, is well respected in the game..........but I reckon he's next in line for the Man U job.

NEKRO138
26-11-2007, 23:25
I'd like Sparky Hughes to be considered - he got Wales to punch well above their weight, is doing the same with Blackburn, he understands the English game and can manage "difficult" players - look how well he's brought Bentley on. He engages brain before gob, is well respected in the game..........but I reckon he's next in line for the Man U job.

I think I read that he's already ruled himself out, alongside Martin O'Neill but yes, I think they'd both do a good job.

Agent Gypo
26-11-2007, 23:37
My main concern about Capello is why no top club (especially Italian) has been after him since he was given the push by Real - do they consider him too difficult to work with or past his sell by date? Certainly his real pomp at AC Milan was a good dozen years ago when they won the Champions league.

I wonder if his enthusiasm for the England job, which is too OTT for my liking, is footballing or looking for a nice pension.

No big jobs in Italy have come up since Real sacked him! Only the Juventus job popped up, and some of the players there don't get on with him.

You can bet that if the Inter or AC Milan position became vacant tomorrow, his name would be mentioned in connection.

Capello has achieved since being at Milan too. La Liga twice and the Scudetto 3 times with 2 clubs, plus a few cup wins.

Longcol
26-11-2007, 23:56
No big jobs in Italy have come up since Real sacked him! Only the Juventus job popped up, and some of the players there don't get on with him.


If he's such a cast iron cert I'd reckon a few chairmen would have happily paid off their existing manager to get hold of him.

Summat doesn't add up, or at least needs thorough investigation before everybody jumps on the Capello bandwagon.

It is more encouraging than the Sam Allardyce / Stuart Pearce ones that half the punters on here were on a year or so ago though.

LFCMadPaul
27-11-2007, 00:09
If he's such a cast iron cert I'd reckon a few chairmen would have happily paid off their existing manager to get hold of him.

Summat doesn't add up, or at least needs thorough investigation before everybody jumps on the Capello bandwagon.
Could it be that Capello was in charge at Juventus, that were investigated for cheating (in Capello's time in charge), which ended in Juventus being religated?

briggy1967
27-11-2007, 01:09
The fact you put Chris Hutchings on your list and not Mark Hughes shows just what you know about football mate......NOTHING,why the hell would anyone vote for someone who has just been sacked by a team in the bottom 3?

Agent Gypo
27-11-2007, 03:05
If he's such a cast iron cert I'd reckon a few chairmen would have happily paid off their existing manager to get hold of him.

Totally ridiculous.

Summat doesn't add up, or at least needs thorough investigation before everybody jumps on the Capello bandwagon.

Capello is a world class coach, renown throughout the game.

It is more encouraging than the Sam Allardyce / Stuart Pearce ones that half the punters on here were on a year or so ago though.

Indeed it is. We should be pleased someone of Capello's calibre is interested in the job, particularly when there are a host of far less experienced English managers distancing themselves from it.

Who else is there?

briggy1967
27-11-2007, 03:15
Would be chuffed to bits if Capello got it

Guderian
27-11-2007, 08:18
The fact you put Chris Hutchings on your list and not Mark Hughes shows just what you know about football mate......NOTHING,why the hell would anyone vote for someone who has just been sacked by a team in the bottom 3?

You absolute fool!!!

I put it in with heavy doses of sarcasm!!!! :loopy:

You have shown yourself up there a bit.....

Longcol
27-11-2007, 23:22
Totally ridiculous.


Ridiculous in what way?

Capello was for the chop by the Real board whether or not he won the Spanish title.

Look at the way Jol was treated by Spurs.

If the board at a top club think there is a better manager out there that they want they are more than happy to sack the manager and poach someone else.

Didn't that happen at Juve when Capello was brought in from Roma?

freyasdad
27-11-2007, 23:34
I chose Capello because A) he has won things and more importantly B) he is an Italian coach and the Italians are masters at defending, the biggest single reason Italy won the last World cup.
A successful team is built on a watertight defence.

Longcol
27-11-2007, 23:50
Not to mention dodgy penalties against the mighty Australians.

And I can well imagine the reaction from the England fans and press to an England team built on defensive football.

What is sorely lacking in the England team is skilled midfield playmakers - players who can find space, get the ball, pass to a player in the same coloured shirt, move to receive the next ball etc.

And didn't Sven learn his trade in Italy?

Code13
28-11-2007, 09:48
Whoever it is, unless they win every game 5-0, they will be crucified by the media.

briggy1967
29-11-2007, 00:26
So Guderian,did u put the other managers on your poll for sarcasm or not,or are we supposed to guess???

Ivor&Mel
30-11-2007, 10:37
A little light-relief, courtesy of Popbitch:

Brian Barwick sees an old lady in the street struggling with heavy shopping.

"Can you manage, love?" he asks.

"It's OK", she says, "I don't want the job, thanks".

:rolleyes:

Guderian
30-11-2007, 10:52
So Guderian,did u put the other managers on your poll for sarcasm or not,or are we supposed to guess???

I think anyone with a brain would realise that they were all serious candidates, with the exception of Chris Hutchings.

Maybe I should have put "Mavis Riley" instead of Hutchings, to enable you to grasp my sarcasm.

spangler
30-11-2007, 11:45
I see Warnock is at odds of 1000 against on Betfair. Reckon its worth a punt ......?

(Spot the sarcasm)

Waxen_Pith
30-11-2007, 12:43
I think anyone with a brain would realise that they were all serious candidates, with the exception of Chris Hutchings.

Maybe I should have put "Mavis Riley" instead of Hutchings, to enable you to grasp my sarcasm.

But Mavis Riley isn't even a football manager!!! :loopy:




;)

Heyesey
30-11-2007, 12:45
I think anyone with a brain would realise that they were all serious candidates, with the exception of Chris Hutchings.

How are we supposed to know that YOU have enough brains to know that? It's not evident whether you included him out of sarcasm or idiocy, and people are free to assume the latter.

Heyesey
30-11-2007, 12:46
Roy Hodgson has resigned as manager of Finland, ostensibly in disappointment at failing to reach Euro 2008. Since in fact they did a hell of a lot better, and came nearer to qualifying, than anyone could reasonably expect .. is he clearing the decks to pitch for the England job?

His international record is better than his club record, which is rare in managers - mostly because you don't usually get employed as an international manager w/o a good club record.

briggy1967
30-11-2007, 14:32
Fair point Heyesey,was thinking the same myself when heard the news,and the fact that the F.A have consulted him on who should be next manager shouldnt be dismissed.
Wouldnt be happy if he got the job but wouldnt be suprised