I keep seeing 'Andolf' with the 'A' in an anarchy sign and then peace messages written next to it tagged on various places.

It's not the usual tagging. This seems to be delivering a particular message.

What or who is Andolf??

i've noticed this and would like to know more.

Probably just some poetic student

Wasn't he a character in Lord Of The Rings? Suppose he's found a portal from the fictional world into the real one?

Its a student, not a graffiti artist.

I keep seeing 'Andolf' with the 'A' in an anarchy sign and then peace messages written next to it tagged on various places.

It's not the usual tagging. This seems to be delivering a particular message.

What or who is Andolf??

He's a red nosed raindeer.

i've noticed this and would like to know more.

Probably just some poetic student

I bet the boys in blue would too.

Wasn't he a character in Lord Of The Rings? Suppose he's found a portal from the fictional world into the real one?

Basil, that was Gandalf, played by (Sir) Ian McKellen.

But if Gandalf used his real name he would get caught really fast.

This Andolf tags on the walls near where I live, he goes on about no giro no hope, wants to get a job then doesn't he?

Its a student, not a graffiti artist.

Either way, it's crap.

Are you sure it's not Adolf?Did he really take his own life in 1945??
Who knows........................

Are you sure it's not Adolf?Did he really take his own life in 1945??
Who knows........................

Resurrected as a dyslexic? :D

Its a student, not a graffiti artist.

Well he is graffittiing (sp?) on walls - so really that's a minor distinction

Could the secret graffitititist be a chap called Alf Don, who's cunningly anagrammed his name to avoid detection? Or even Don Alf?

Well he is graffittiing (sp?) on walls - so really that's a minor distinction

Theres a world of difference. A graffiti artist spends time and money on his designs and spots. A student finds a can of white spray paint in there out-house, get drunk, then walk to town from ekky road up past the botanical gardens and into town writing pointless message's off the top of his head rolling around ******* himself on the floor with his tennent superbrew and asking his half witted girlfriend to come out with silly quotes.

Theres a world of difference. A graffiti artist spends time and money on his designs and spots. A student finds a can of white spray paint in there out-house, get drunk, then walk to town from ekky road up past the botanical gardens and into town writing pointless message's off the top of his head rolling around ******* himself on the floor with his tennent superbrew and asking his half witted girlfriend to come out with silly quotes.

You're half right.
A student sprays a rude word on a wall he doesn't own.
A graffiti artist sprays a rude word on a wall he doesn't own, but also sprays a picture of his genitals next to it.

Glad to clear that up for you.

I'm particularly impressed with the highly untalented Prik who has now taken to spraying his name all over the walls overlooking the infants school in Nether Edge. This guy is turning into a bit of a creep.

Theres a world of difference. A graffiti artist spends time and money on his designs and spots. A student finds a can of white spray paint in there out-house, get drunk, then walk to town from ekky road up past the botanical gardens and into town writing pointless message's off the top of his head rolling around ******* himself on the floor with his tennent superbrew and asking his half witted girlfriend to come out with silly quotes.

a) you are a very rude and ignorant person if you think it is just students who commit criminal damage by spraying on property they do not own in the latter way you describe.

b) the OP does not describe works of art done with permission on proprty, nor even things which have been given time, thought or money. There is no mention of these item's coming even close to 'artwork' even given the subjective definition of such things.

c) the distinction really doesn't matter as both are breaking the law, and the latter scenario is probably much cheaper and easier to clean than the former.

and before you go off on one about how I am clearly some jumped up posh person who can't understand the plight of the graffiti artist, I do appreciate true 'graffiti art'. I think alot of Banksy's work for example is very poignant and pertinant in modern life. However, that does not remove from the fact that he has criminally defaced property owned by someone else without permission.

Can we get back on topic please and not start a war?

I simply asked what Andolf meant or what it signified. Any ideas?

Im very sorry Classic rocks but what ive just wrote is true, i know the kid through a friend, hes part of a group/band and it has no meaning towards it then finding a can of spray before walking into town to a mates.

Dark, BANKSY is an organisation, just shows you that you beleave anything, he was once a single artist that turned to stencils for the simple fact he couldnt use a can very well. You lack sense of the knowledge and anyone who has nothing to do or has been apart of the graffiti culture of sheffield should not comment because to othiers it makes sense, and to the actual people who do it just laugh at the stupid views you outcast.

ROCKET does not have permission to do any walls but hes bloody amazing, alot more talented then banksy, and hes a one man band. Not an organisation.


BANKSY PIECE, look at the state of his lines and colour combination, awful.
http://space2breathe.co.uk/blogger/images/banksy_albion_road.jpg


ROCKET PIECE, amazing, ten times better then banksy, REAL GRAFFITI ART!
http://www.rocket01.co.uk/page4.htm

http://www.rocket01.co.uk/page5.htm

Andolf's just a guy who enjoys a bit of paint.

i find some of his messages quite funny "i got the constipation blues"

Makes standing at the bus stop more entertaining.

Im very sorry Classic rocks but what ive just wrote is true, i know the kid through a friend, hes part of a group/band and it has no meaning towards it then finding a can of spray before walking into town to a mates.

Dark, BANKSY is an organisation, just shows you that you beleave anything, he was once a single artist that turned to stencils for the simple fact he couldnt use a can very well. You lack sense of the knowledge and anyone who has nothing to do or has been apart of the graffiti culture of sheffield should not comment because to othiers it makes sense, and to the actual people who do it just laugh at the stupid views you outcast.

ROCKET does not have permission to do any walls but hes bloody amazing, alot more talented then banksy, and hes a one man band. Not an organisation.


BANKSY PIECE, look at the state of his lines and colour combination, awful.
http://space2breathe.co.uk/blogger/images/banksy_albion_road.jpg


ROCKET PIECE, amazing, ten times better then banksy, REAL GRAFFITI ART!
http://www.rocket01.co.uk/page4.htm

http://www.rocket01.co.uk/page5.htm

Sorry Classic Rock, it just frustrates me immensly that certain people can't manage to see that however 'artful' it is, it is still damage to someone else's property.

4ny1ne - tbh I couldn't care less about the 'grafitti culture in sheffield' or anywhere. I care about the growing number of people, however skillful or otherwise, who feel it is ok to damage someone else's property. And however nice it looks, it is damage which costs money and time to repair.

If they have permission, and it is artful (and I agree well done graffiti can look amazing) then I have no problem whatsoever.

Im very sorry Classic rocks but what ive just wrote is true, i know the kid through a friend, hes part of a group/band and it has no meaning towards it then finding a can of spray before walking into town to a mates.

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So is Andolf a band? It must mean something??

Sorry Classic Rock, it just frustrates me immensly that certain people can't manage to see that however 'artful' it is, it is still damage to someone else's property.

4ny1ne - tbh I couldn't care less about the 'grafitti culture in sheffield' or anywhere. I care about the growing number of people, however skillful or otherwise, who feel it is ok to damage someone else's property. And however nice it looks, it is damage which costs money and time to repair.

If they have permission, and it is artful (and I agree well done graffiti can look amazing) then I have no problem whatsoever.


Yet another mistake you've made from your LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

The art work of a graffiti artisted is very thoughtful to the public rather then the image of `taggers` which i think your getting muddled up in the conversation. We paint ABBANDEND warehouse's, tracksides, and demolished lands which are not used or owned in some case's.

The graffiti is never removed, just gone over, therefore not costing any percentages from tax/council ETC. I think you need to address the word `GRAFFITI` and realise theres many forms of it rather then slagging off graffiti as a whole.

So is Andolf a band? It must mean something??

No he's part of a band, something id prefer not to say for `bait` reasons.

Yet another mistake you've made from your LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

The art work of a graffiti artisted is very thoughtful to the public rather then the image of `taggers` which i think your getting muddled up in the conversation. We paint ABBANDEND warehouse's, tracksides, and demolished lands which are not used or owned in some case's.

The graffiti is never removed, just gone over, therefore not costing any percentages from tax/council ETC. I think you need to address the word `GRAFFITI` and realise theres many forms of it rather then slagging off graffiti as a whole.

Out of respect for Classic Rock's thread, I am going to back out of this now. Not because I am wrong,. but because you are never going to make the effort to see my point of view, or in fact fully read my posts.

Toodleoo x

Which still leads me back to my original question. What on earth is "Andolf"?

It could mean anything from the drink he was on or to the fact it sounds funny. Ill ask him.

dark_moomin, you are obviously wrong.

It could mean anything from the drink he was on or to the fact it sounds funny. Ill ask him.

dark_moomin, you are obviously wrong.

4ny1ne, when you first joined the forum did you spray your posts on your monitor and wonder why no-one was replying to them?

4ny1ne, when you first joined the forum did you spray your posts on your monitor and wonder why no-one was replying to them?

Oh hahahaha, everyone laugh at basil, hes so funny.

I see the highly talented Mr Prik has just sprayed his name and the word pussy on the telephone exchange box outside the infants school in Nether Edge.
This persons obsession with tagging outside this infants school is getting disturbing.

If it's offensive, ring 101 and report it. Streetforce will get rid of it as a priority.

I see the highly talented Mr Prik has just sprayed his name and the word pussy on the telephone exchange box outside the infants school in Nether Edge.
This persons obsession with tagging outside this infants school is getting disturbing.

Go wash it off then if your that bothered.

I'm from Manchester and tagging of schools is the norm but the taggers all lay off schools for the very young. Sort of respect thing. Guess that doesn't apply in Sheffield.

I'm from Manchester and tagging of schools is the norm but the taggers all lay off schools for the very young. Sort of respect thing. Guess that doesn't apply in Sheffield.

It does to be honest, theres no graffiti on the school. Just across from it.

Slightly off topic, but i noticed that someone has written/graffiti'd Les Dawson on the side of one of the buildings near the bottom of London Road, it made me smile :)

Sorry Classic Rock, it just frustrates me immensly that certain people can't manage to see that however 'artful' it is, it is still damage to someone else's property.

4ny1ne - tbh I couldn't care less about the 'grafitti culture in sheffield' or anywhere. I care about the growing number of people, however skillful or otherwise, who feel it is ok to damage someone else's property. And however nice it looks, it is damage which costs money and time to repair.

If they have permission, and it is artful (and I agree well done graffiti can look amazing) then I have no problem whatsoever.i am so happy that there is graffiti on all the outspreading roads from the city centre, it just goes to show that a city with artistic culture and history behind it will not let the shiney hotel brigade think they can love it then hate it from one day to the next,graffiti is graffiti good and bad a real writer is an artist who pieces muralls and also bombs tags, graff has two sides,sheffield wouldnt be the city it is without graffiti and music,yes the town center looks lovely i agree. weather its on your property or not you should let humanity evolve and its capitalism you should be fighting against..peace

just spotted somthin on the bbc site about andolf
http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/

is andolf or whoever responsable for the car billborads that have been sprayed?
Saying lies and such?

Andolf's graffiti messages are not good work but its fun reading the messages:D

The graffiti on the Rutland pub is realy good.

I think we are all missing the point here, I think we should be asking the question "Is the writing on the wall for graffiti" DISCUSS....................

I know who it is and they are not too concerned with the elitism sometimes ascribed to the aesthetics of graffiti. In answer to a few of the topics raised in this thread:

It is illegal, that is the point. When it is done legally it ceases to be graffiti in the real sense as it loses it's sense of true subverseivism. It become legal art, it becaome banal.

Now, 'talent'; People who are highly talented should be encouraged to continue to paint on the streets as all styles of graffiti are welcomed in the realm of subversive street painting. But they should refrain from cricitising any street paint that does not meet their standards of 'what is pleasing to the eye'. This is elitism and it has no place in the realm of subversive street painting.

When people apply paint to the streets they are actively participating in a culture they have a right to be part of. Now, there are obviously people who do not want to see paint on the street; but there are also people who do not want to see billboards, fake advertisements, lies; people who do not want to see a culture domainated by capitalism, elitism, the upper classes and the notion that power should dictate culture. The only difference between the two is that one is protected by the law, the other is hounded by it.

Painting on the street should be a representaion of your desire to participate in a culture you may otherwise be excluded from. This means that the painter paints either a mesg or the just the fact that he creates. Aesthetics should not even come into question. If it looks good or represents an ability to paint something that is aesthetically pleasing then this is nothing more than a bonus if it is so desired.

Andolf is talked about and has been given media attention which means there art has been given life, it lives. Job done.

This idiot has written 'f--k off' on a wall near the Hallamshire, close to a nursery. He must be really proud of that one!!

So, STARMAG thinks graffiti costs us nothing?

Well, the Council is spending more than £200,000 a year of mine and his council tax getting rid of it. I'd rather have 20 more home helps.

And, if you're running a business attacked by these mindless idiots, it costs a fortune to remove and/or you have to pay extra insurance.

Dont remove it then.simple