Rumours are rife around Liverpool today regarding the news that Jose Mourinho is being sensationaly linked with the Liverpool Manager's job!

In another rant at the owners this weekend, Rafa Benitez again criticesed the slow movement of the American's in the transfer market and was sarcastic when asked a question on Saturday regarding the row he had had with Tom Hicks!

Well what a shock this would be :D

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=66572

It may not be too unlikely either!! If Mourinho was offered the Liverpool manager's job ..... I reckon he would take it like a shot!

I have my body armoury on :D

Do you really think Mourinho would walk from Abramovich and into Hicks and Gillett? They are telling Rafa to concentrate on the playing and coaching side, and that transfers have nothing to do with him... Hardly the sort of stuff to make Jose's mouth water! :P

Anyway... lay off Jose - we need him for England! :rolleyes:

Do you really think Mourinho would walk from Abramovich and into Hicks and Gillett?:
Well he has to walk into somewhere doesn't he and let's face it, there is not that many owners splash the cash like Mr Abramovich does is there?
They are telling Rafa to concentrate on the playing and coaching side, and that transfers have nothing to do with him... Hardly the sort of stuff to make Jose's mouth water! :P:
They have never said that transfers are nothing to do with Rafa! Gillette and Hicks have simply said that any transfer activity will be delayed untill after the meeting in December at Anfield (when Rafa is sacked perhaps?)! They also stated that Rick Parry will be in charge of buying and selling players which means that instead of the manager running to them for money for transfers etc, they will just go straight to Rick Parry instead, as he is in charge of that department! You don't honestly believe that Rick will be choosing who comes and goes do you? :hihi:
Anyway... lay off Jose - we need him for England! :rolleyes:
Well if England want Jose then they had better start moving pretty quickly! They had also better come up with a very tempting financial package aswell because if not, I honestly believe that if Rafa is sacked and the Liverpool managers job is offered to Jose Mourinho..... he will take it!

Mourinho loves controversy! And how controversial would this be if it ever happened hey :D

Mourinho would be much better than Benitez for Liverpool.

However, my understanding is that Mourinho is not a llowed to manage an English club side for a while as part of his severance package from Chelsea.

Rafa must stay!
Rafa must stay!

Mourinho will probably go for Scotland job when Mcleish goes for Birmingham. ;) reckon He'd look ok in a kilt.

Mourinho would be much better than Benitez for Liverpool.

However, my understanding is that Mourinho is not a llowed to manage an English club side for a while as part of his severance package from Chelsea.
For this season only! After that Mourinho is free to manage whoever he likes!

For this season only! After that Mourinho is free to manage whoever he likes!

Still, I don't imagine him going to Liverpool. He'd probably see it as a step down, having nothing to prove in English football is what I mean. It seems like he's more interested in managing in Germany and Italy anyway.

Still, I don't imagine him going to Liverpool. He'd probably see it as a step down, having nothing to prove in English football is what I mean.
Bringing the Premiership Title to the Liverpool fans would make him (or anyone) an absolute hero! If the challenge was laid down, would he step upto the plate? I think he would!

If we were talking about Man Utd; possibly. But not Liverpool.

I think Mourinho's next job will be abroad, at a long shot, maybe the England post.

Still, I don't imagine him going to Liverpool. He'd probably see it as a step down, having nothing to prove in English football is what I mean. It seems like he's more interested in managing in Germany and Italy anyway.


I don't recall any manager ever turning down liverpool

I don't recall any manager ever turning down liverpool

We aren't talking about just any manager though are we?

Mourinho isn't exactly a popular figure at Anfield, and if the clubs owners are after someone who will get on with things and shut up, they wont be looking at Jose.

Not only that, but Mourinho has already said his next job wont be at an English club, and I think he means it. Besides, he wouldn't be allowed to take the job until next season anyway.

If we were talking about Man Utd; possibly. But not Liverpool.
Why? It can't be that you think there wouldn't be enough transfer funds available to him! Because (like everyone seems to point out) Liverpool spend around the same amount of money on transfers that Utd do?????????


It can't be because Utd are champions and Liverpool are not! Unless you are suggesting that Mourinho might like to manage Manchester United because it would be an easy life and that he thinks he wouldn't have to even try, to be successful?

It can't be because Manchester Utd are a much bigger club than Liverpool, that are far more famous around the world, because they are not!

It can't be because Manchester United have a bigger history than Liverpool, or that they have been the most successfull club since the English league's were founded, because that isn't true!

It's been said already on here and I agree that it's hard to think of any manager that has ever turned down the job of managing Liverpool FC! If any manager in the world was offered the Liverpool job, I would bet that everyone of them would seriously consider it and most would probably accept, with the exception of Fergie!

Can you give a really valid reason as to why Jose Mourinho would never want the job of managing Liverpool FC? (and "because Liverpool fans don't like him", is not allowed)!

Why? It can't be that you think there wouldn't be enough transfer funds available to him! Because (like everyone seems to point out) Liverpool spend around the same amount of money on transfers that Utd do?????????

Liverpool's spending power over the last decade is not a patch on Man Utd's. Even this season, which has seen record purchasing, Liverpool have sold off many players to balance.

Manchester Utd generate more match-day income from Old Trafford than Liverpool from Anfield. You can include Liverpool's new ground in that too, which upon completion will still be smaller than Old Trafford.

Man Utd have the most lucrative sponsorship deal in football.

Oh, and Man Utd have the 4th biggest financial turnover in football (leading for many years), remaining the worlds most profitable club according to Forbes. Man Utd are valued at £800m. Liverpool at £450m.

It can't be because Utd are champions and Liverpool are not! Unless you are suggesting that Mourinho might like to manage Manchester United because it would be an easy life and that he thinks he wouldn't have to even try, to be successful?

No, but he is more likely to have success with a Man Utd side that has a) better players, and b) better youth academy.

It can't be because Manchester Utd are a much bigger club than Liverpool, that are far more famous around the world, because they are not!

We can argue the toss about which club is bigger all day, for me it's a moot point, as I neither support or like either club. However, since the formation of the Premier League, Man Utd are undoubtedbly more succesful on and off the pitch.

It can't be because Manchester United have a bigger history than Liverpool, or that they have been the most successfull club since the English league's were founded, because that isn't true!

See above. You can go on about things that happened years ago if you want, I'm used to hearing Wednesday fans do that.

Can you give a really valid reason as to why Jose Mourinho would never want the job of managing Liverpool FC? (and "because Liverpool fans don't like him", is not allowed)!

Why not? It's a valid point.

Ok:

The Liverpool owners are unhappy with Benitez' public tantrum, are they really going to approach someone like Mourinho, who is famous for his outbursts and goading of opposition?

Mourinho has already said his next job wont be in England, and I don't think it will be either. I also believe that if he were to manage in England again, he would want to be at a club that is capable of mounting a title challenge. At the present moment in time, that is not Liverpool.

Why? It can't be that you think there wouldn't be enough transfer funds available to him! Because (like everyone seems to point out) Liverpool spend around the same amount of money on transfers that Utd do?????????


It can't be because Utd are champions and Liverpool are not! Unless you are suggesting that Mourinho might like to manage Manchester United because it would be an easy life and that he thinks he wouldn't have to even try, to be successful?

It can't be because Manchester Utd are a much bigger club than Liverpool, that are far more famous around the world, because they are not!

It can't be because Manchester United have a bigger history than Liverpool, or that they have been the most successfull club since the English league's were founded, because that isn't true!

It's been said already on here and I agree that it's hard to think of any manager that has ever turned down the job of managing Liverpool FC! If any manager in the world was offered the Liverpool job, I would bet that everyone of them would seriously consider it and most would probably accept, with the exception of Fergie!

Can you give a really valid reason as to why Jose Mourinho would never want the job of managing Liverpool FC? (and "because Liverpool fans don't like him", is not allowed)!


United are a bigger club than Liverpool. Dont kid yourself.
For all their 80s success, they have NEVER had the pulling power than United have had.
I know a few Pool fans, and that is one fact they grudgingly accept.

Jose would take the job, end of story, but he is not a Liverpool manger - too controversial

Unless the FA bods can gather a thought between them and offer Mourinho the England job, I think he's going for another club side; and there is little to zero chance of it being Liverpool! Ancelotti, Rijkaard, Schuster, are all a bit "fluid" at the moment, and all would be acceptable options for him. He's in a strong position, and there's no way I can see him going for a "turmoil" club, which is what Liverpool would be if they were stupid enough to ditch Rafa.

Mourinho will probably go for Scotland job when Mcleish goes for Birmingham. ;) reckon He'd look ok in a kilt.

Mcleish now at Birmingham, let's see if 2nd half of my prophecy works out.;)

Mcleish now at Birmingham, let's see if 2nd half of my prophecy works out.;)

Jose McRinho... Aren't dreams wonderful :thumbsup:

No, but he is more likely to have success with a Man Utd side that has a) better players, and b) better youth academy..
Better youth Academy????? - How? Our Youth Academy at Melwood, is the best Academy in the country! It has also produced many 'top class', first team players on a consistent basis! How can Utd's be better!
I also believe that if he were to manage in England again, he would want to be at a club that is capable of mounting a title challenge. At the present moment in time, that is not Liverpool.
If we win our game in hand, we will move up to second in the table, above Utd by goal difference!

Now considering the injuries we have had and the problems off the pitch (Rafa and the owners), I would say that's as good a challange that could have been expected in the circumstances!

Better youth Academy????? - How? Our Youth Academy at Melwood, is the best Academy in the country! It has also produced many 'top class', first team players on a consistent basis! How can Utd's be better!

Bobby Charlton
George Best
David Platt
Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

and that's without really thinking. You're deluding yourself if you think Liverpool's academy has consistently produced better players in the last 20 years.

Aside from Gerrard, Owen, McManaman, Fowler and Carragher, there aren't any players of note to have emerged from the Liverpool academy since the 1980's.

Bobby Charlton
George Best
David Platt
Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea


and that's without really thinking. You're deluding yourself if you think Liverpool's academy has consistently produced better players in the last 20 years.

Aside from Gerrard, Owen, McManaman, Fowler and Carragher, there aren't any players of note to have emerged from the Liverpool academy since the 1980's.


Quite agree -Liverpool have never really have a youth policy, not until recent years. I would add Norman Whiteside to that list also.

[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2878594]Bobby Charlton
George Best
David Platt
Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

and that's without really thinking. QUOTE]

Didn't David Platt start his career with Dario Gradi at Crewe, he was off their production line if I remember rightly.

[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2878594]Bobby Charlton
George Best
David Platt
Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

and that's without really thinking. QUOTE]

Didn't David Platt start his career with Dario Gradi at Crewe, he was off their production line if I remember rightly.

He was at United before Crewe. United (Ron Atkinson) bombed him out.

Aside from Gerrard, Owen, McManaman, Fowler and Carragher, there aren't any players of note to have emerged from the Liverpool academy since the 1980's.
You can add Danny Murphy, Stephen Warnock, Dominic Matteo and David Thompson to that list too! Although not as high in class, they were still good players that made plenty of appearances for Liverpool and made a substancial amount of money for the club when they were sold!

This is not a bad standard of player to be consistently churning out though is it? And how many of the players stated in you're list are Mancs? As apposed to how many in my list are Scousers? A few of the names you mentioned were poached from other clubs academy's as youngsters, not actual products of Utd's own academy!

Anyway, I was just responding to you're theory that Utd's youth policy is better than Liverpool's, which obviously I don't agree with. I believe that at least, Liverpool's is just as good in terms of the players produced over recent years. Where Liverpool's academy does excell however, is in the quality of facilities and the actual academy itself! Liverpool have recently pumped millions into Melwood with absolute world class facilities available to the young players and first team players alike!

This is not a bad standard of player to be consistently churning out though is it? And how many of the players stated in you're list are Mancs? As apposed to how many in my list are Scousers? A few of the names you mentioned were poached from other clubs academy's as youngsters, not actual products of Utd's own academy!

Anyway, I was just responding to you're theory that Utd's youth policy is better than Liverpool's, which obviously I don't agree with. I believe that at least, Liverpool's is just as good in terms of the players produced over recent years. Where Liverpool's academy does excell however, is in the quality of facilities and the actual academy itself! Liverpool have recently pumped millions into Melwood with absolute world class facilities available to the young players and first team players alike!


None of that backs up your earlier claim. Melwood is positively decrepid compared to Carrington anyway...

Anyway, I reckon 7 of Gypos list of 11 are Mancs/from North West, not that it matters anyway....

And who was "stolen" from another club then?
Beckham was offered something from Spurs, but had been attending soccer schools in Manc since old enough to walk. Joined Utd at arounf 14.

And didnt you steal the likes of Owen and Gerrard (big Everton fans, whether you like it or not).

[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2878594]Bobby Charlton
George Best
David Platt
Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

and that's without really thinking. QUOTE]

Didn't David Platt start his career with Dario Gradi at Crewe, he was off their production line if I remember rightly.
And George Best wasn't a product of Utd's academy either! He was brought over from Ireland and was basically put straight into training with the first team. He didn't actually go through Utd's youth system at all!

This list is getting smaller all the time :D

None of that backs up your earlier claim. Melwood is positively decrepid compared to Carrington anyway...

Anyway, I reckon 7 of Gypos list of 11 are Mancs/from North West, not that it matters anyway....

And who was "stolen" from another club then?
Beckham was offered something from Spurs, but had been attending soccer schools in Manc since old enough to walk. Joined Utd at arounf 14.

And didnt you steal the likes of Owen and Gerrard (big Everton fans, whether you like it or not).

There is no real need to get too deep into this to be honest. Both clubs have good youth systems that have produced good quality players over the years, so the original statement;
No, but he is more likely to have success with a Man Utd side that has a) better players, and b) better youth academy.
Wouldn't really be a defining factor in whether or not Mourinho would be more successful at either Utd or Liverpool, would you agree?

None of that backs up your earlier claim. Melwood is positively decrepid compared to Carrington anyway...

Anyway, I reckon 7 of Gypos list of 11 are Mancs/from North West, not that it matters anyway....

And who was "stolen" from another club then?
Beckham was offered something from Spurs, but had been attending soccer schools in Manc since old enough to walk. Joined Utd at arounf 14.

And didnt you steal the likes of Owen and Gerrard (big Everton fans, whether you like it or not).

Owen may have been an Everton fan (although he's welsh anyway and therefore a wool), but Gerrard is and always has been a red.

:)

Owen may have been an Everton fan (although he's welsh anyway and therefore a wool), but Gerrard is and always has been a red.

:)

You wanna bet??!! :hihi:

http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/blubber/toffee_gerrard.jpg

Look closely........

[QUOTE=ReginaldD;2878958]
And George Best wasn't a product of Utd's academy either! He was brought over from Ireland and was basically put straight into training with the first team. He didn't actually go through Utd's youth system at all!

This list is getting smaller all the time :D

So if you are scouted at 15 years of age, it doesnt count??!!
Rubbish -scouting is what its all about.
He first played for the first team at 17, btw.

Like I said, I'm no fan of either club. But you can't argue with facts. Man Utd have produced better players more consistently since the 80's.

Owen may have been an Everton fan (although he's welsh anyway and therefore a wool), but Gerrard is and always has been a red.

:)

Owen was born in Chester, so he is very much English; and it is well known that Gerrrard was a toffee nosed blue. You're not having a good day are you?

So if you are scouted at 15 years of age, it doesnt count??!!


If you're scouted out of anywhere other than a team's local catchment area, then you are NOT a product of that team's youth policy. You physically can't be, because you weren't in their area.

If you're scouted out of anywhere other than a team's local catchment area, then you are NOT a product of that team's youth policy. You physically can't be, because you weren't in their area.

A full time United scout spotted Best in Belfast at 15. This led to the famous call to Busby:
"I think I have found a genius"
He brought him to England. How can he not be a product of our youth policy?

Times were different then -there were no "catchment areas" like there are today.

Jose Mourinho would only go to a club that has a 'glamorous' location

Jose Mourinho would only go to a club that has a 'glamorous' location
That is the most ludicrous suggestion I have heard yet :hihi:

Managers, when making a decision on the team they want to manage, base it on more than where they can go at night to 'live it up'! :roll:

A full time United scout spotted Best in Belfast at 15. This led to the famous call to Busby:
"I think I have found a genius"
He brought him to England. How can he not be a product of our youth policy?

Times were different then -there were no "catchment areas" like there are today.

:hihi: Of course there were catchment areas!

I recently read the George Best Biography, and in it was the information regarding his move to Manchester Utd. When Best arrived at Utd he was put straight in with the first team, not actually playing, but training, unlike the youth team players who were seperated from the first team.
At first Best was a little overaud and attempted to run away and escape back to his roots! Fortunately for Utd, he was persueded to remain and from then he went from strength to strength, breaking into the first team at a very early age. He never actually played or trained with the youth team!

If Best never even played or trained with the youth team at Utd, how can he be proclaimed as been a product of the Utd youth system?

Jose Mourinho would only go to a club that has a 'glamorous' location

i take offence to this. liverpool has more than enough tanning shops to keep jose in his perma-tan!!

None of that backs up your earlier claim. Melwood is positively decrepid compared to Carrington anyway...
Liverpool's Academy is absolutely brand new!

£14m was ploughed into the project to ensure that Liverpool kept up with, and in most cases overtook, other clubs that had good youth systems in place already!

The equipment and facilities are of the highest standard and the Academy consistently throws up players able enough to compete within the first team at Liverpool FC.

How is that decrepid compared to Utd's?

You don't have to claim to be the best at everything and in every department at every single opportunity you know Guddie!

Liverpool's Academy is absolutely brand new!

£14m was ploughed into the project to ensure that Liverpool kept up with, and in most cases overtook, other clubs that had good youth systems in place already!

The equipment and facilities are of the highest standard and the Academy consistently throws up players able enough to compete within the first team at Liverpool FC.

How is that decrepid compared to Utd's?

You don't have to claim to be the best at everything and in every department at every single opportunity you know Guddie!

evertons new finch farm is better again :D

i take offence to this. liverpool has more than enough tanning shops to keep jose in his perma-tan!!
I agree :hihi: I will also add that some people portray London (if that is what Cressida was refering to when she said 'glamourous') as being the highlite of this country and that London is the place to be! Well from my experience (and I have worked all over London within the last 10 years), it is the biggest *£&%hole that I have ever come across, and i'm not joking when I say; I wouldn't have a house in London given to me!

evertons new finch farm is better again :D
It may well turn out to be better Preach!

Clubs improve their facilities all the time so everyone is overtaking everyone else as time goes by!

As it stands, Gudderian is stating that the Academy at Liverpool is 'decrepid' compared to the one of Utd's, which is absolute nonsense!

Like I said, I'm no fan of either club. But you can't argue with facts. Man Utd have produced better players more consistently since the 80's.
Ok, show the facts. Let's go from 1990, which was around the time that Utd started their success story - that's fair enough isn't it?

Find the players that have been brought through each of Liverpool's and Utd's Academy's, and let's compare them.

I think you will find that there is not a great deal in it!

A full time United scout spotted Best in Belfast at 15. This led to the famous call to Busby:
"I think I have found a genius"
He brought him to England. How can he not be a product of our youth policy?
Because Utd didn't produce him, Ireland did!

Best was basically involved with the first team from the day he got out of the taxi at Old Trafford!

Ok, show the facts. Let's go from 1990, which was around the time that Utd started their success story - that's fair enough isn't it?

Find the players that have been brought through each of Liverpool's and Utd's Academy's, and let's compare them.

I think you will find that there is not a great deal in it!

Not a great deal in it?

Sigh. There's no point in arguing with you. Your loyalty to Liverpool is blinding you, and you wont concede anything to Man Utd even when it's staring you in the face!

Not a great deal in it?

Sigh. There's no point in arguing with you. Your loyalty to Liverpool is blinding you, and you wont concede anything to Man Utd even when it's staring you in the face!

Manchester Utd

Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham (although developed before he reached Utd)
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

Liverpool

Gerrard
Owen
McManaman
Fowler
Carragher
Danny Murphy
Warnock
Thompson

Like I said, not much in it!

Manchester Utd

Gary Neville
Phil Neville
David Beckham (although developed before he reached Utd)
Nicky Butt
Ryan Giggs
Paul Scholes
Wes Brown
John O'Shea

Liverpool

Gerrard
Owen
McManaman
Fowler
Carragher
Danny Murphy
Warnock
Thompson

Like I said, not much in it!


Oh be quiet.
1) Beckham was developed at United -he was making trips to Bobby Charltons soccer school from the age of 12! Joined us at 14.

2)If you are going to add Warnock and Thompson to the list, you can add David Healy, Phil Bardsley, Johnathan Greening, John Spector etc to ours.
Ok, not all great, but all playing in the Prem (think Phil is on loan at Lane from Villa). Which is more than can be said for David Thompson..

You wanna bet??!! :hihi:

http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/blubber/toffee_gerrard.jpg

Look closely........

:o:o:o

I stand corrected. I did not know that.

:(:(:(

I wouldnt worry - if it cheers you up, John O'Shea is a Pool fan!

I really do wish he played for you as well.....

I wouldnt worry - if it cheers you up, John O'Shea is a Pool fan!

I really do wish he played for you as well.....

Gerrard was never an everton fan. Taht picture was taken by his uncle, who was an everton fan and who had won a competition and asked him to wear the shirt.

Carragher, Fowler, Mcmanaman, and Owen, yes. But not Gerrard. So don't worry Atticus Finch!

I'm really glad O'shea doesn't play for us.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/01/13/jose-let-me-kop-rafa-job-98487-20284010/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=507906&in_page_id=1779&ito=1490

Looks as though the 90% of people on here that said Jose would never take the job at Liverpool could be wrong!

Infact, Mourinho is basically asking for it :D

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/01/13/jose-let-me-kop-rafa-job-98487-20284010/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=507906&in_page_id=1779&ito=1490

Looks as though the 90% of people on here that said Jose would never take the job at Liverpool could be wrong!

Infact, Mourinho is basically asking for it :D

Yeah, he REALLY wants a job with Premiership also rans.
He REALLY wants a job where he has no cash to spend.
He REALLY wants a job where the owners are about to default on the loan they took out to buy the club, possibly transferring the ownership to RBS!

surely mourinho would never take the liverpool job? too much hassle with the current owners, uncertainty over the stadium etc.
I thought it was for sure that he was off to real madrid next season? If i was a betting man, thats where my money would be.

If Mourinho went to Liverpool, he'd have the exact same problems with the owners that he had with the Chelsea owners. He needs to go somewhere like Real Madrid where the manager can do what he wants, as long as results come in.

If Mourinho went to Liverpool, he'd have the exact same problems with the owners that he had with the Chelsea owners. He needs to go somewhere like Real Madrid where the manager can do what he wants, as long as results come in.

So he needs to go to Madrid where as long as he produces results he will not get the sack, so how come Capello was sacked 9 days after winning the first league for 4 years. :huh:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6248514.stm

Someone PLEASE tell me, why would Real want Rafa?!!

They are top of the Spanish League, and going well in Europe.

I read something that suggests he is considered a lucky manager in Spain. He won the title at a time when Real and Barce were in disarray, and we all know Stevie G won him the European Cup.

There are better managers out there, and the very top clubs would not be clamouring for Rafa in my opinion.

I'm not saying Mourinho should go for the job or that Real Madrid should offer him the job, I'm saying that's the kind of job I think hed be interested in. Not one like Liverpool.

Someone PLEASE tell me, why would Real want Rafa?!!

They are top of the Spanish League, and going well in Europe.

I read something that suggests he is considered a lucky manager in Spain. He won the title at a time when Real and Barce were in disarray, and we all know Stevie G won him the European Cup.

There are better managers out there, and the very top clubs would not be clamouring for Rafa in my opinion.

Eh, agree. I meant Mourinho to Real. No way that Real will want Rafa- you re right.

If Mourinho went to Liverpool, he'd have the exact same problems with the owners that he had with the Chelsea owners. He needs to go somewhere like Real Madrid where the manager can do what he wants, as long as results come in.

Manager can do what he wants at Real Madrid?!!

I can't think of club where that is LESS true!!!

chnage of tack. What does everyone think of deschamps at newcastle. he did well at monaco. Do the toon deserve him? will he last a whole year? should he bother moving his family?
whaddya think!