Did anyone see the crash on the new ring road on saturday? It appeared to be a white(ish) car, possibly a renault or something.

I believe that might be the first one to have happened. Hope no-one was hurt.

I can't say I'm surprised. I think the layout is shocking, and it's a dangerous design. I'm afraid to say that I'm expecting a few more accidents on there.

I'm also going to steer clear of it for a while.

I think the layout is shocking, and it's a dangerous design. I'm afraid to say that I'm expecting a few more accidents on there.



We need to exercise lane discipline, be more aware of our own stopping distances, recognise that single amber means stop and
GIVE MORE ROOM FOR BIG TRUCKS TO MANOEUVRE.
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We need to exercise lane discipline, be more aware of our own stopping distances, recognise that single amber means stop and
GIVE MORE ROOM FOR BIG TRUCKS TO MANOEUVRE.
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There is a far more basic problem :

we need to improve the basic standard of driving in this country for every one cyclists through to profesional drivers and if that means retests for everyone then yes it as to happen


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Too many ditherers on the roads of Sheffield (mainly middle ages women drivers).

Put time restrictions on the roads for certain age groups and the roads will be a safer place for all of us.

I for one am fed up of driving behind a middle aged women who does Stocksbridge to Sheffield at 40mph all the way, not enough in the 60mph zone but too fast in the 30mph, re test the lot of em!!

Too many ditherers on the roads of Sheffield (mainly middle ages women drivers).

Put time restrictions on the roads for certain age groups and the roads will be a safer place for all of us.

I for one am fed up of driving behind a middle aged women who does Stocksbridge to Sheffield at 40mph all the way, not enough in the 60mph zone but too fast in the 30mph, re test the lot of em!!


Good drivers realise that not everyone is the same and make allowances for different driving styles.

Middle aged women drivers? Driving from Sheffield to Stocksbridge at 40 mph? Maybe there is a 40mph speed limit or lower, at least on some sections of this road.
I agree it is annoying when you get behind a slow driver, but having someone behind you who is in a hurry to break the speed limit, cause an accident or even die, is far, far more annoying.
Ask any insurance company who are the cheapest people to insure due to being involved in the least accidents and you will find that middle aged women are the safest drivers on the road.
I am a middle aged woman- if you haven't already guessed- and I thought this thread was about the new ring road, which goes no where near Stocksbride.
Rant rant rant...

Good drivers realise that not everyone is the same and make allowances for different driving styles.

I 100% agree but i'm a great driver; considerate, drive as closely to the speed limit as i can, courtious to other drivers and i read the actions of others well.

But why should the good drivers have to make allowances for the poor drivers? There are too many bad drivers on the road these days and its mainly the oldens who passed their test 30/35 yrs ago, they need to understand the road are a different place these days end be re tested.

I followed a women up Chesterfield road the other day, she went about 15mph all the way down indicating to turn left before finally turning left up the road across from the KFC, thats just poor and inconsiderate driving. She was obvoiusly not too sure where she was going so made herself a menace to other road users. I encounter these sort of drivers on at least a weekly basis and its just not good enough.

I 100% agree but i'm a great driver; considerate, drive as closely to the speed limit as i can, courtious to other drivers and i read the actions of others well.

But why should the good drivers have to make allowances for the poor drivers? There are too many bad drivers on the road these days and its mainly the oldens who passed their test 30/35 yrs ago, they need to understand the road are a different place these days end be re tested.



Perhaps you need to be re-tested . Driving as close to the limit as possible is no way to drive. These are limits, not targets.

You sound far from a great driver. Also very sexist btw.

Middle aged women drivers? Driving from Sheffield to Stocksbridge at 40 mph? Maybe there is a 40mph speed limit or lower, at least on some sections of this road.
I agree it is annoying when you get behind a slow driver, but having someone behind you who is in a hurry to break the speed limit, cause an accident or even die, is far, far more annoying.
Ask any insurance company who are the cheapest people to insure due to being involved in the least accidents and you will find that middle aged women are the safest drivers on the road.
I am a middle aged woman- if you haven't already guessed- and I thought this thread was about the new ring road, which goes no where near Stocksbride.
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"middle aged women are the safest drivers on the road" - thats probably right because they're the ones that cause the accidents and end up getting away scott free.

I don't like the young Chavs who drive their Corsa's up your arse at 90mph in a 30mph zone but if they kill themselves thats their fault but unpredictable, dithering, slow drivers are the scurge of modern day driving.

My mother and mother in law are by far the worst drivers i have come across, i have even got to the stage when i'd rather drive myself, get the bus or even walk than get in the car with either of them. They're both menacing first class ditherers who expect other drivers to accomodate their poor driving.

Middle aged women drivers? Driving from Sheffield to Stocksbridge at 40 mph? Maybe there is a 40mph speed limit or lower, at least on some sections of this road.
I agree it is annoying when you get behind a slow driver, but having someone behind you who is in a hurry to break the speed limit, cause an accident or even die, is far, far more annoying.
Ask any insurance company who are the cheapest people to insure due to being involved in the least accidents and you will find that middle aged women are the safest drivers on the road.
I am a middle aged woman- if you haven't already guessed- and I thought this thread was about the new ring road, which goes no where near Stocksbride.
Rant rant rant...


Never had an accident, but seen plenty in your mirrors...:hihi:

Perhaps you need to be re-tested . Driving as close to the limit as possible is no way to drive. These are limits, not targets.

You sound far from a great driver. Also very sexist btw.

Don't be a fool, speed limits are numbers plucked out of the air that were set 40 years ago when cars weren't equipped with the safety equipment they have today, e.g. sophisticated breaking systems that allow you to slow do cars at a reasonable rate.

Also for your reference a speed limit of 60mph is set to allow traffic to move safely in a safe environment, not for women to drive at 40mph and hold the traffic up. What gets me is women also drive at their set limit of 40mph in 30mph zone so they're still breaking the law.

I think the problems these days is that the older generation don't understand the signs at the side of the road. I spend a lot of time driving down south and its the same down there.

It will be a very sad day when all the fuel runs out - horses are so borin'.

Speed limits are just guidelines? Try explaining that on your fine appeal form. It is illegal to drive above the recommended speed, and they are not 'plucked' out of the air, but thorough research has shown that fatal injuries occur on impacts above 40mph, and that 30mph is considered the safest speed in built up areas to avoid accidently hitting children.
On the slow driving issue- I agree it is frustrating driving behind an slow driver, and that it is very dangerous- but men are just as guilty of this as women, and it is the clearly small minded labelling of middle aged women as bad drivers that I object to, and the fact this this thread was supposed to be about the ring road!!!!!!!

One of my friends got caught in the infamous gridlock that happened last year was it? When the bus broke down and the city came to a standstill. Anyway, whilst he accepted the road system left a lot to be desired, he also cited poor driving as a major contributor to the problems.

People blocking lanes, blocking box junctions, generally getting in the way. Poor driving skills made a bad problem into a horrific one. He wrote all his views on the subject in a letter to the Star, but they only printed the parts about the poor road system, because they're cowards too afraid to upset their readers with the truth.

One of my friends got caught in the infamous gridlock that happened last year was it? When the bus broke down and the city came to a standstill. Anyway, whilst he accepted the road system left a lot to be desired, he also cited poor driving as a major contributor to the problems.

People blocking lanes, blocking box junctions, generally getting in the way. Poor driving skills made a bad problem into a horrific one. He wrote all his views on the subject in a letter to the Star, but they only printed the parts about the poor road system, because they're cowards too afraid to upset their readers with the truth.

I was stuck in the traffic gridlock last year when the Range Rover broke down on the University, its fair to say inconsideration drivers didn't help the situation that night as well.

My partner saw a crash on friday afternoon on the new ring road - a youngish girl had gone into a ballard. He says her car was in a right mess and she looked hurt (people had stopped to be with her already - so he didnt stop)

One of my friends got caught in the infamous gridlock that happened last year was it? When the bus broke down and the city came to a standstill. Anyway, whilst he accepted the road system left a lot to be desired, he also cited poor driving as a major contributor to the problems.

People blocking lanes, blocking box junctions, generally getting in the way. Poor driving skills made a bad problem into a horrific one. He wrote all his views on the subject in a letter to the Star, but they only printed the parts about the poor road system, because they're cowards too afraid to upset their readers with the truth.

It amazes me how everyone thinks it is the other drivers who cause the problems. I suggest that we all chose a date in the future when we will stop driving so we don't cause any problems for the young people on the road- and stick to it- I wonder how many drivers would offer to do this?

Middle aged women drivers? Driving from Sheffield to Stocksbridge at 40 mph? Maybe there is a 40mph speed limit or lower, at least on some sections of this road.

I suggest you re-read the OP;), which clearly states that they continue at 40, even in the 30 zones (also during the national speed limit areas). Both of which can be equally as dangerous:(

Perhaps you need to be re-tested . Driving as close to the limit as possible is no way to drive. These are limits, not targets.

You sound far from a great driver. Also very sexist btw.


You mean he sounds a right ar se ! :loopy:

I suggest you re-read the OP;), which clearly states that they continue at 40, even in the 30 zones (also during the national speed limit areas). Both of which can be equally as dangerous:(


Point taken- but that still doesn't mean that all middle aged women drive like this- and that eveyone who drives like this must be middle-aged AND a woman.
Honestly, I know I shouldn't get steamed up about this, but I sometimes think we've gone back in time. When will some people on here discard their retrograde thinking and join the 21st century?
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Point taken- but that still doesn't mean that all middle aged women drive like this- and that eveyone who drives like this must be middle-aged AND a woman.
Honestly, I know I shouldn't get steamed up about this, but I sometimes think we've gone back in time. When will some people on here discard their retrograde thinking and join the 21st century?
Rant rant rant...

Stereotypes are part of life, I also struggle with middle aged female drivers, and anybody over the age of 60. The number of middle aged women who do 30 on the road between Matlock and Sheffield (which is NSL most of the way) every day is frightening... they all have big safe 4WD cars too. That's more dangerous than doing the speed limit as I always end up stuck behind one with a queue of traffic UP MY ARSE! If I had to break sharply I'd end up with somebody in the back of me.

Generally I think the standard of driving in this area is appalling. Better than China though.

It will be a very sad day when all the fuel runs out - horses are so borin'.

Ahh but when that happens, electric or gas powered cars will *miraculously* become widely available. The technology must already be there, its just being held back so the government and oil companies can rape us for all we're worth till it runs out. We put men on the moon, we can make lumps of metal which weigh 60,000 tonnes float, levitate trains and make them move at 300 mph, we can cure some cancers and we can hold back AIDS...... yet we cant make an affordable vehicle which doesnt use a fossil fuel? Yeah right.

I personally think the new ring road is a death trap.

I came off on the M1, drove down the parkway, and then turned right on the new road towards hillsborough.

As I went down the new road towards the wicker, I was doing 65mph and almost lost control at the 1st bend.

I do think this road has some dangerous bends.... :loopy: very poor in that sense

Ahh but when that happens, electric or gas powered cars will *miraculously* become widely available. The technology must already be there, its just being held back so the government and oil companies can rape us for all we're worth till it runs out. We put men on the moon, we can make lumps of metal which weigh 60,000 tonnes float, we can cure some cancers and we can hold back AIDS...... yet we cant make an affordable vehicle which doesnt use a fossil fuel? Yeah right.

We'll probably have electric cars - like them Dodgems at the fairground, with a pole sticking up at the back to catch the power....But first we'll need to build a few nuclear power stations.

I think the problems these days is that the older generation don't understand the signs at the side of the road. I spend a lot of time driving down south and its the same down there.

I dont think it is necessarily that, I think a lot of all drivers, young, middle aged and old, do not understand signs.
There is a 'stop' sign at tinkers corner, where bradway rd, prospect rd and rod moor rd join, when you approach the corner from rod moor rd.
The sign is an upside down red triangle that says 'STOP'.
Very rarely does a driver stop.

I personally think the new ring road is a death trap.

I came off on the M1, drove down the parkway, and then turned right on the new road towards hillsborough.

As I went down the new road towards the wicker, I was doing 65mph and almost lost control at the 1st bend.

I do think this road has some dangerous bends.... :loopy: very poor in that sense

Oooh, I'll probably be doing this route on Tuesday night for the first time. Thanks for the warning. :)

I personally think the new ring road is a death trap.

I came off on the M1, drove down the parkway, and then turned right on the new road towards hillsborough.

As I went down the new road towards the wicker, I was doing 65mph and almost lost control at the 1st bend.

I do think this road has some dangerous bends.... :loopy: very poor in that sense

65mph????? Isn't the speed limit 60mph here? And this from a bus driver- very scarey!

Stereotypes are part of life, I also struggle with middle aged female drivers, and anybody over the age of 60. The number of middle aged women who do 30 on the road between Matlock and Sheffield (which is NSL most of the way) every day is frightening... they all have big safe 4WD cars too. That's more dangerous than doing the speed limit as I always end up stuck behind one with a queue of traffic UP MY ARSE! If I had to break sharply I'd end up with somebody in the back of me.

Generally I think the standard of driving in this area is appalling. Better than China though.

Stereotypes are part of life? Sorry, but they're not part of mine mate, neither is patronising someone who is trying to make a valid point here.
Maybe I should hand in my license now then, as I'm obviously a serious danger and massive irritant to all those sensible male drivers.
Of course, life would be so much easier for you men if we women would just stay home and watch telly all day.

Stereotypes are part of life? Sorry, but they're not part of mine mate, neither is patronising someone who is trying to make a valid point here.
Maybe I should hand in my license now then, as I'm obviously a serious danger and massive irritant to all those sensible male drivers.
Of course, life would be so much easier for you men if we women would just stay home and watch telly all day.

I best hand mine in as well then. :)



Maybe someone just has a problem with women in general. ;)

It amazes me how everyone thinks it is the other drivers who cause the problems. I suggest that we all chose a date in the future when we will stop driving so we don't cause any problems for the young people on the road- and stick to it- I wonder how many drivers would offer to do this?

What are you on about? Are you having a go at me?

I can't even drive! It was my friend who made these observations, though from my own knowledge (and I do - even as a pedestrian - get to see many drivers making silly mistakes such as running red lights, blocking junctions etc) I completely agree with him.

You suggest people only think it is everyone else who is causing the problems? Well I'm sorry, but I think there are many bad drivers out there who seriously compound traffic problems.

One of the biggest obstacles when it comes to getting people out of their cars and onto public transport, or even just on to their feet, is that many motorist believe the road belongs to them and that everyone else is the problem. Everyone stubbornly sits in their cars waiting for everyone else to get out of their way. The same goes for driving skills too -people block junctions and cause problems for their own personal gain (getting ahead at junctions, getting into different lanes) even if the long run they're making worse for themselves.

Stereotypes are part of life? Sorry, but they're not part of mine mate, neither is patronising someone who is trying to make a valid point here.
Maybe I should hand in my license now then, as I'm obviously a serious danger and massive irritant to all those sensible male drivers.
Of course, life would be so much easier for you men if we women would just stay home and watch telly all day.

On one hand you're saying that stereotyping women drivers isn't fair, and on the other hand you're implying that young drivers are at fault... if that isn't stereotyping, then what is.

My life wouldn't be much easier if women stayed at home all day. My HoD is a lady who does a fine job, the majority of teachers in my department are female and they all do fantastic work. I don't have any problem with women, and I don't have any problem with middle-aged women! The majority of the drivers I get stuck behind on the road to work are middle-aged females, it's not something I've made up in my head, it's a fact! The other drivers are generally old men. I'm not discriminating against either group, just that it's a fact!

Chip on shoulder?

What are you on about? Are you having a go at me?

I can't even drive! It was my friend who made these observations, though from my own knowledge (and I do - even as a pedestrian - get to see many drivers making silly mistakes such as running red lights, blocking junctions etc) I completely agree with him.

You suggest people only think it is everyone else who is causing the problems? Well I'm sorry, but I think there are many bad drivers out there who seriously compound traffic problems.

One of the biggest obstacles when it comes to getting people out of their cars and onto public transport, or even just on to their feet, is that many motorist believe the road belongs to them and that everyone else is the problem. Everyone stubbornly sits in their cars waiting for everyone else to get out of their way. The same goes for driving skills too -people block junctions and cause problems for their own personal gain (getting ahead at junctions, getting into different lanes) even if the long run they're making worse for themselves.

I think the best drivers are those who admit they make mistakes! Nobody is a perfect driver and it would be foolish to admit otherwise! Just yesterday I made a mistake at "University Square" and nearly had a driver go into the side of me - I foolishly assumed another driver was indicating left to turn off, rather than continue around the roundabout, so I ended up stranded! We all make mistakes, and I'd say that the majority of drivers make at least one mistake a day on the road!

It's more fun watching drivers as a pedestrian though, I have to admit!

edit: didn't want to imply that I thought I was a 'best driver'... I think I have a long way to go on that front!

Don't be a fool, speed limits are numbers plucked out of the air that were set 40 years ago when cars weren't equipped with the safety equipment they have today, e.g. sophisticated breaking systems that allow you to slow do cars at a reasonable rate.

Also for your reference a speed limit of 60mph is set to allow traffic to move safely in a safe environment, not for women to drive at 40mph and hold the traffic up. What gets me is women also drive at their set limit of 40mph in 30mph zone so they're still breaking the law.

I think the problems these days is that the older generation don't understand the signs at the side of the road. I spend a lot of time driving down south and its the same down there.

Cars may be better equipped for safety, it's the idiot driving it that has not improved. By the way the speed signs are maximum speeds not the speed you have to achieve.

@ Hook - I sit in the passenger seat smiling to myself when I watch my friends shout obscenities to idiot drivers who cut them up, 30 seconds before they cut someone up themselves, only to giggle to themselves and say "oops!!" to which I love to point put their hypocrisy! Nothing better than sitting on my high horse even though I can't drive!

Seriously though, you do wonder how some people got their licences, thankfully the REALLY bad ones are rare.

On one hand you're saying that stereotyping women drivers isn't fair, and on the other hand you're implying that young drivers are at fault... if that isn't stereotyping, then what is.

My life wouldn't be much easier if women stayed at home all day. My HoD is a lady who does a fine job, the majority of teachers in my department are female and they all do fantastic work. I don't have any problem with women, and I don't have any problem with middle-aged women! The majority of the drivers I get stuck behind on the road to work are middle-aged females, it's not something I've made up in my head, it's a fact! The other drivers are generally old men. I'm not discriminating against either group, just that it's a fact!

Chip on shoulder?

Where did I say that it was young drivers that were to blame? Even though it is fact that young male drivers are the most reckless and hence have to pay the higher insurance premiums.
I'm glad your 'lady' boss does a fine job- why shouldn't she?
Chip on my shoulder? Well maybe, but I was only responding to a remark that I found personally insulting, and I don't see what is wrong with that.
I agree that it is time we all admitted to making the odd mistake when driving- we are all human after all, and I agree that there seems to be a higher proportian of inconsiderate drivers on the road- I have to deal with them too, as I have to drive to work and back as well. It is just that we shouldn't make sweeping judgements about who is to blame.
We all need to take more care, don't we?
Now I have almost finished my glass of red, and I'm feeling much more mellow.
So tomorrow I'll smile at all my fellow drivers, and hope you all get to your destinations safely.

So, I'm taking it that no-one saw the crash then?

Or at least most of the above after post #1 has nothing to do with the ring road.

Cars may be better equipped for safety, it's the idiot driving it that has not improved. By the way the speed signs are maximum speeds not the speed you have to achieve.

if you drove at 40mph on a 60 road on your driving test you would fail

I personally think the new ring road is a death trap.

I came off on the M1, drove down the parkway, and then turned right on the new road towards hillsborough.

As I went down the new road towards the wicker, I was doing 65mph and almost lost control at the 1st bend.

I do think this road has some dangerous bends.... :loopy: very poor in that sense Who's that trip trip trapping across my bridge? :rolleyes:

65mph????? Isn't the speed limit 60mph here? And this from a bus driver- very scarey!

Nope, the speed limit on the Parkway just there is 40mph, so Mr B was driving dangerously, stupidly and was lucky he didn't injure or kill someone. He must have had to practically handbrake turn off the Parkway onto Cutlers Gate to even make that turn at that speed.

if you drove at 40mph on a 60 road on your driving test you would fail

Not if the road conditions made it unsafe to do so.

Nope, the speed limit on the Parkway just there is 40mph, so Mr B was driving dangerously, stupidly and was lucky he didn't injure or kill someone. He must have had to practically handbrake turn off the Parkway onto Cutlers Gate to even make that turn at that speed.

He said he had turned onto the road towards Hillsborough I think the speed limit drops to 30 once you are off the Parkway.

Getting back to the new bit of ringroad that has opened, I was driving on it the other evening, it was dark and wet and also very quiet. Under those conditions you can still see all the old arrows and road markings making it look like you are travelling the wrong way on the road, very confusing if you dont know the road.

if you drove at 40mph on a 60 road on your driving test you would fail


If you drove at 61 you would fail too. And if there was fog or the road had ice on it and I was driving at forty would i fail then. You drive at the speed road conditions and the speed limits allow.

Or maybe you wheateruk don't.

Perhaps you need to be re-tested . Driving as close to the limit as possible is no way to drive. These are limits, not targets.

You sound far from a great driver. Also very sexist btw.

i think you might find that you are required to get as close to a speed limit as possible,just a couple of mph under is perfectly fine,if it says 60 go 60,if it says 30 go 30 simple really.if you were to 20 in a 30 zone on your driving test you would probably get a minor because you are going to slow!!!!

i for one am all for everyone being retested every 5 years,peolpe who past there test 10 years ago haven't learnt to the new standards that have been brought in,so every 5 years we all retake our tests simpl as,then the people who think "i'm a good driver"would find out just how good the really are and anybody that isn't up to scratch would be removed from the roads making them a safer place to be!!

i think you might find that you are required to get as close to a speed limit as possible,just a couple of mph under is perfectly fine,if it says 60 go 60,if it says 30 go 30 simple really.if you were to 20 in a 30 zone on your driving test you would probably get a minor because you are going to slow!!!!

i for one am all for everyone being retested every 5 years,peolpe who past there test 10 years ago haven't learnt to the new standards that have been brought in,so every 5 years we all retake our tests simpl as,then the people who think "i'm a good driver"would find out just how good the really are and anybody that isn't up to scratch would be removed from the roads making them a safer place to be!!


You might be the first fail!

You might be the first fail!

really well when i passed my test just 2 and a half years ago i passed 1st time with 3 minors and i stayed 2-3mph under the speed limits just like i was told!!!so i think you are in need of the a retest before anyone if you think that driving 10-15 mph under the limit is fine,you do also realise that driving well under the limit is also a driving offence just like going well over the limit is!!!

You can drive as fast as you want, as long as you CAN PROVE that you were wearing a seatbelt at the time of the offence

really well when i passed my test just 2 and a half years ago I passed 1st time with 3 minors and i stayed 2-3mph under the speed limits just like i was told!!!so i think you are in need of the a retest before anyone if you think that driving 10-15 mph under the limit is fine,you do also realise that driving well under the limit is also a driving offence just like going well over the limit is!!!

When I passed my test it was 1st time no minors and I have probably driven more miles than you have had deep breaths. The skill in driving is to anticipate the unexpected and the unexpected is the idiot who drives up to the speed limit and then when a slower car in front appears accelerates, overtakes, cant pull in front because of oncoming traffic so breaks and has to get back behind the slower car. Oh bgr the car behind you has closed up the gap you left, Sod him you pull in anyhow. He breaks to avoid you and the car behind him breaks sharply. That car pulls over to the left to avoid hitting the car in front. He mounts the pavement and hits a mother with a child in a pushchair, killing the child.
Never had an accident but as was said earlier by a forum er seen a few in the rear view mirror.

Or maybe you wheateruk don't.

sorry youve caught me out i like to drive 120mph+ everywhere. think before you open your stupid mouth. i consider myself to still be learning as ive only been passed for just over 18 months but as i work part-time as a deliverie driver i do quite a few miles a week and have yet to crash or get pulled by the police for somethin other than a routine check.

oh wait hand on a minute, im 19 must be a boy racer:loopy::rant::rant:

When I passed my test it was 1st time no minors and I have probably driven more miles than you have had deep breaths. The skill in driving is to anticipate the unexpected and the unexpected is the idiot who drives up to the speed limit and then when a slower car in front appears accelerates, overtakes, cant pull in front because of oncoming traffic so breaks and has to get back behind the slower car. Oh bgr the car behind you has closed up the gap you left, Sod him you pull in anyhow. He breaks to avoid you and the car behind him breaks sharply. That car pulls over to the left to avoid hitting the car in front. He mounts the pavement and hits a mother with a child in a pushchair, killing the child.
Never had an accident but as was said earlier by a forum er seen a few in the rear view mirror.

somehow i just knew you'd have passed 1st time and just for your knowlodge i do around 20,000 miles a year and seem to do just fine!!!it's the other idiot's on the road that are the problem,mostly because what they were taught when they passed i so out of date my mrs is learning at the minute and there is diffrent rules to just 3 years ago when i was learning yes the basics are about the same but the basics are not enough to get you through a driving test like i say every 5 years everyone retakes there test,gets some of the people who have had there licence's since the stone age up to date with what they know or with what they think they know,it would make the roads safer!!!!

Let's not forget the idiots who insist on driving at 55-60mph in the centre lane of the motorway with nothing on the inside lane :rant:

sorry youve caught me out i like to drive 120mph+ everywhere. think before you open your stupid mouth. i consider myself to still be learning as ive only been passed for just over 18 months but as i work part-time as a deliverie driver i do quite a few miles a week and have yet to crash or get pulled by the police for somethin other than a routine check.

oh wait hand on a minute, im 19 must be a boy racer:loopy::rant::rant:



That comment of "open your stupid mouth" just about sums up the mentality of some of you younger drivers. Aggressive, ignorant and if that is a sample of your attitude when on a computer chat forum heaven help other drivers when you are on the road.

And comments like that are unnecessary during an adult conversation.

Let's not forget the idiots who insist on driving at 55-60mph in the centre lane of the motorway with nothing on the inside lane :rant:

The biggest problem the world of motoring is that people do not think. It is the sod everyone else I am the best and will drive where and how I like.

That comment of "open your stupid mouth" just about sums up the mentality of some of you younger drivers. Aggressive, ignorant and if that is a sample of your attitude when on a computer chat forum heaven help other drivers when you are on the road.

And comments like that are unnecessary during an adult conversation.

For a start dont patronise me about "having an adult conversation". As for me being ignorant is it not you that has just generalised all young drivers?

And by the way if you mistook my statement to be aggresive then you have led a very sheltered life

You can drive as fast as you want, as long as you CAN PROVE that you were wearing a seatbelt at the time of the offence


Anyone else finding this difficult to believe- or is it a wind-up?

My speeding notification (doing 34 in a 30 zone, come on, we've all done it!), didn't say anything of the sort. I'm sure there was no mention of a seat belt.

Busdriver, will you please inform me when you are going out and then I'll stay in.

Can't believe this discussion is still going on...

Middle aged women drivers? Driving from Sheffield to Stocksbridge at 40 mph? Maybe there is a 40mph speed limit or lower, at least on some sections of this road.
I agree it is annoying when you get behind a slow driver, but having someone behind you who is in a hurry to break the speed limit, cause an accident or even die, is far, far more annoying.
Ask any insurance company who are the cheapest people to insure due to being involved in the least accidents and you will find that middle aged women are the safest drivers on the road.
I am a middle aged woman- if you haven't already guessed- and I thought this thread was about the new ring road, which goes no where near Stocksbride.
Rant rant rant...

They don't have the least accidents, they have accidents that cost the least. That's because hesitancy results in many small accidents.

You shouldn't have to make an allowance for someone doing 40 in a 60 zone, if they were taking their test they'd fail it.

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Some people drive too close to trucks on the Ring Road.


Click Me (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmw0HIKgHiM&feature=related)
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Where is the new ring road?

Just a quick update, i went to my parents up Stocksbridge last night, the traffic was awful (what a mess Sheffield is) and low and behold from Oughtibridge to Stockers i was about 7th in line behind some old bird doing 40mph along the Bythams in her Vauxhall Corsa....get a grip woman or get off the road. Perfect conditions and that road is made for doing 60mph.

Once again another example of oldens not understanding road signs (e.g. observing the national speed limit). Ban the lot of em and make all over 55's re take their tests.

Just a quick update, i went to my parents up Stocksbridge last night, the traffic was awful (what a mess Sheffield is) and low and behold from Oughtibridge to Stockers i was about 7th in line behind some old bird doing 40mph along the Bythams in her Vauxhall Corsa....get a grip woman or get off the road. Perfect conditions and that road is made for doing 60mph.

Once again another example of oldens not understanding road signs (e.g. observing the national speed limit). Ban the lot of em and make all over 55's re take their tests.

You did well to see who was driving a car seven vehicles in front of you.
Why did'nt the car behind her overtake?

I would refer the impatiant drivers amongst you read what the highway code has to say about being considerate.
You must have at some time been in a strange area and not known exactly which direction to take.
Try driving around Milton Keynes. Better still do'nt. Get the bus

You did well to see who was driving a car seven vehicles in front of you.
Why did'nt the car behind her overtake?

I saw her cos as per usual she turned right at the lights in Deepcar onto the bypass. Bloody out of towners :hihi:

It only takes a couple of dimwits to get together to cause a tailback.....one oap (over 55) following another, dimwit 2 won't overtake dimwit 1 and its chaos!!

I have been lost many times in many cities (don't get me started on AA Route Planner), i still observe the highway code and don't cause tailbacks!!

I saw her cos as per usual she turned right at the lights in Deepcar onto the bypass. Bloody out of towners :hihi:

It only takes a couple of dimwits to get together to cause a tailback.....one oap (over 55) following another, dimwit 2 won't overtake dimwit 1 and its chaos!!

I have been lost many times in many cities (don't get me started on AA Route Planner), i still observe the highway code and don't cause tailbacks!!

There is an old epitaph on lots of graves

AS YOU ARE NOW
I ONCE WAS
AS I AM NOW
YOU WILL BE
And you don't have to be dead to be like the oldies of today.

Remember the Rolling Stones song with the line " Hope I die before I get old"

Remember the Rolling Stones song with the line " Hope I die before I get old"

Thats a Robbie Williams song, don't worry, must be your age :hihi:

My partner saw a crash on friday afternoon on the new ring road - a youngish girl had gone into a ballard. He says her car was in a right mess and she looked hurt (people had stopped to be with her already - so he didnt stop)

A ballard???? What's a ballard?

I think you mean "bollard"

Thats a Robbie Williams song, don't worry, must be your age :hihi:

Robbie Williams was'nt even born when that was a hit. Maybe you were though.

I'm off up Stockers for my dinner this evening, setting off at 5.30pm, dinner is on the table at 6.30pm.

The question is will i make it or will the 40mph wonder be waiting for me at Oughtibridge? I'll keep you posted!!!