Sooner or later Mclaren will lose his job because the press hate him (unless we win Euro 2008 and that aint gonna happen)
Would you go English or Foreign for the next manager
Personally i always hated the idea of a foreign manager but i really dont belive their is any English manager capable of taking us forward

Likely to be foreign because there are so few English candidates.

It's not the English coach who's the problem, It's the english players.

If I was in the FA I would do all I can to get jose mourinho without a doubt. He already knows the players and he is a great manager too. " who needs maclareno when we could get mourinho wh needs maclareno when we could get mourinho" lol

It's not the English coach who's the problem, It's the english players.
Why?

Did Lampard decide to drop himself for three games untill England started playing well and then decide to bring himself back into the team as captain of his country?

And did Beckham decide to publicly humilliate himself by dropping himself from the squad completely, only to then decide 3 games later to re-instate himself as first choice right winger?

Or could it even be that Crouch thought his record of 13 goals in 24 games was not good enough even when Owen and Rooney were out injured, so decided to say "here Mr Alan Smith, you go and play today instead of me, even though you're crap"?

Think about it Liberty! ..... :hihi: Liberty :D

Would you go English or Foreign for the next manager
Is Mourinho foreign? If he is then I would go foreign!

I think whoever gets it will have a difficult job given the lack of top class English players.

Personally I might be inclined to give the job to a Welshman.

LFC,When did Lampard captain England?
And yes if Mourinho would be a good choice but personally i would give it to Martin Oneil and
cant believe he was given the job when it was obvious he wanted it

Where's the poll option for Northern Irish?

LFC,When did Lampard captain England?
And yes if Mourinho would be a good choice but personally i would give it to Martin Oneil and
cant believe he was given the job when it was obvious he wanted it

Mourinho is the best option!

i also think martin oneil would be good BUT the f.a dont like somone who speaks out , they want a goody two shoes:hihi:

Now thats the problem!!!

i also blame sum of the players where is the english passion like TERRY BUTCHER! S pearce, these english players dont have that passion anymore

Mourinho is the best option!



He can't go out and spend £100 million on new English players though - he's got to work with what there is - which on a good day is 9 or 10 half decent international players - not players that the top Spanish and Italian teams are exactly queuing up for.

Disagree with that one Longcol
If Morinho was English Manager he would have a squad worth well over £100 million,and the reason the top spanish,italian teams arent prepared to but British is they cant afford the wages British teams pay which is why English Football is full of foreign players.
The likes of Lampard,Terry,Ferdinand,Rooney,Gerrard would be very high up on their shopping list if they could afford to pay them more than they are getting now.

Disagree with that one Longcol
If Morinho was English Manager he would have a squad worth well over £100 million,and the reason the top spanish,italian teams arent prepared to but British is they cant afford the wages British teams pay which is why English Football is full of foreign players.
The likes of Lampard,Terry,Ferdinand,Rooney,Gerrard would be very high up on their shopping list if they could afford to pay them more than they are getting now.

You may be right. Only one England player, to my knowledge, plays outside England, and that's Beckham. How many of the Italian, Spanish, German first team players, ply their trade in the Premiership?

Exactly Heyesey,and how many of the foreigners arent worthy of playing in the championship never mind the premier league.
The Difference between English clubs and clubs from Germany,Italy,Spain ect is that English clubs (the top ones) buy certain players for European Games and certain players for the domestic Games.
The group of clubs in the 2nd teir of the premiership (Man City,Blackburn,Everton,Portsmouth,Spurs) buy players to try and get them into the top teir but will only ever be in the 2nd teir because they dont have the support or finances to match the big 4
And the rest are just happy to be picking up money from Sky which finances the ridiculous wages that average players are paid

I'm not bothered as long as they give this set of very talented but underachieving players a proper kick up the arse.

Disagree with that one Longcol
If Morinho was English Manager he would have a squad worth well over £100 million,and the reason the top spanish,italian teams arent prepared to but British is they cant afford the wages British teams pay which is why English Football is full of foreign players.
The likes of Lampard,Terry,Ferdinand,Rooney,Gerrard would be very high up on their shopping list if they could afford to pay them more than they are getting now.

You reckon?

Barcelona, Real Madrid and the two Milan's could easily match prem wages or at least a better lifestyle - can you seriously see those clubs taking English players over Brazilians and Argentinians.

Can you seriously think that if Mourinho got a top job in Europe he'd buy any English players - most find it hard to adapt from moving from Liverpool to Cheshire!

Can you seriously think that if Mourinho got a top job in Europe he'd buy any English players - most find it hard to adapt from moving from Liverpool to Cheshire!
That's the players though fella, not the managers! I reckon there are a few of our players that managers of top foreign teams would gladly take on board:

Gerrard
Lampard
Terry
Ferdinand
A. Cole
Rooney

Owen, Beckham have already done it!

That's the players though fella, not the managers! I reckon there are a few of our players that managers of top foreign teams would gladly take on board:

Gerrard
Lampard
Terry
Ferdinand
A. Cole
Rooney

Owen, Beckham have already done it!

Beckham sent out to pasture in the USA and Owen bought by the mugs that are Newcastle United - they did OK ish at Real Madrid and sold a lot of shirts but hardly established themselves as first team regulars.

With the exception of Ashley Cole I'd be extremely surprised if any foreign team came in for any of those (excluding newspaper talk). We overrate our players - all are decent internationals but if I was picking the worlds best XI I can't see any of them even on the subs bench.

With the exception of Ashley Cole I'd be extremely surprised if any foreign team came in for any of those (excluding newspaper talk).

Well, Briggy says the same thing, but he says it's because they're so good that nobody except top Premiership clubs can afford their wages. You say it's because they're not actually good enough.

A useful pointer would be if someone can answer my earlier question, since I don't offhand know. How many of the Spanish, German, Italian first team internationals play in England, rather than elsewhere on the continent? The higher wages available here would bring most of those players to us, if Briggy is correct; and if he isn't, they'll all be in Germany, Spain or Italy.

Easy Answer Heyesey (and cant believe u asked question in first place mate)

TORRES...Darling of Spanish football plays for Liverpool
FABREGAS....Best Midfielder Spain has had for many a year plays for Arsenal
ALONSO....A regular for Spain plays for Arsenal
BALLACK.....German captain plays for Chelsea
LEHMAN....Germanys no 1 and cant even get a game for Arsenal (but doesnt want to move to Spain,Italy or his Homeland....wonder why!!!)
HARGREAVES.....Plays for Man Utd YES hes English but he left Bayern Munich even tho they were odds on to win the bundesliega every season and qualified year after year for the champions league
REINA.....Spains no 1 plays for Liverpool

Wont even go into how many players from other international teams have LEFT Italian,Spanish or German teams to come to the Premiership cos there are so many you would get bored reading em all

But Why do you think Shevchenko left Milan when he was a god there???

Easy Answer Heyesey (and cant believe u asked question in first place mate)


Well unless they play for Sheffield United, there's no good reason for me to know. ;)

Easy Answer Heyesey (and cant believe u asked question in first place mate)

TORRES...Darling of Spanish football plays for Liverpool
FABREGAS....Best Midfielder Spain has had for many a year plays for Arsenal
ALONSO....A regular for Spain plays for Arsenal
BALLACK.....German captain plays for Chelsea
LEHMAN....Germanys no 1 and cant even get a game for Arsenal (but doesnt want to move to Spain,Italy or his Homeland....wonder why!!!)
HARGREAVES.....Plays for Man Utd YES hes English but he left Bayern Munich even tho they were odds on to win the bundesliega every season and qualified year after year for the champions league
REINA.....Spains no 1 plays for Liverpool
Since When? :mad:

Crap........soz LFC got carried away there (have had a word with Arsene and apparantley hes lookin to make a bid in January) lol

Easy Answer Heyesey (and cant believe u asked question in first place mate)

TORRES...Darling of Spanish football plays for Liverpool
FABREGAS....Best Midfielder Spain has had for many a year plays for Arsenal
ALONSO....A regular for Spain plays for Arsenal
BALLACK.....German captain plays for Chelsea
LEHMAN....Germanys no 1 and cant even get a game for Arsenal (but doesnt want to move to Spain,Italy or his Homeland....wonder why!!!)
HARGREAVES.....Plays for Man Utd YES hes English but he left Bayern Munich even tho they were odds on to win the bundesliega every season and qualified year after year for the champions league
REINA.....Spains no 1 plays for Liverpool

Wont even go into how many players from other international teams have LEFT Italian,Spanish or German teams to come to the Premiership cos there are so many you would get bored reading em all

But Why do you think Shevchenko left Milan when he was a god there???

And all the Italian players who won the last World Cup all played for Italian clubs.

Getting back to the thread, my next England manager might well British and therefore understands the way we play, and be someone who has managed at International level and got both his international and club team to punch well above their weight. He is articulate, knows the game inside out, engages brain before gob, can bring the best out of "difficult to handle" players..........................




Mark Hughes.

Will Give ya that one Longcol....Mark Hughes is a banging Shout
But it wont happen cos he aint a yes man

Crap........soz LFC got carried away there (have had a word with Arsene and apparantley hes lookin to make a bid in January) lol
:hihi: Swap him for Fabregas ;)

And all the Italian players who won the last World Cup all played for Italian clubs.

Getting back to the thread, my next England manager might well British and therefore understands the way we play, and be someone who has managed at International level and got both his international and club team to punch well above their weight. He is articulate, knows the game inside out, engages brain before gob, can bring the best out of "difficult to handle" players..........................




Mark Hughes.

Bobby Robson :huh:

When the next England manager is announced it needs to be one that provokes the reaction "that Brian Barwick is a top man - how did he manage to get hold of XXXX to be our new manger - I can see us doing something with him" as opposed to "what's he ever done, another FA yes man, can't wait till he gets sacked". The problem with most England managers is that the man in the pub thinks he knows more about football than the man in charge, and rarely see anything to change their mind, and most of the time they are right. Football is a business where the emplyees (players) and the bosses (managers) are usually as bright as a 5 watt bulb. The shame is that many of our players are world class and would do well playing for other national teams, but our managers routinely lack the innovation and courage to pick a side that can develop into a unit that is capable of winning a tournament.

When the next England manager is announced it needs to be one that provokes the reaction "that Brian Barwick is a top man - how did he manage to get hold of XXXX to be our new manger - I can see us doing something with him" as opposed to "what's he ever done, another FA yes man, can't wait till he gets sacked". The problem with most England managers is that the man in the pub thinks he knows more about football than the man in charge, and rarely see anything to change their mind, and most of the time they are right. Football is a business where the emplyees (players) and the bosses (managers) are usually as bright as a 5 watt bulb. The shame is that many of our players are world class and would do well playing for other national teams, but our managers routinely lack the innovation and courage to pick a side that can develop into a unit that is capable of winning a tournament.
The success of Manchester City and the way that they are playing, compared to last season, doesn't really support you're arguement fella!

English or foreign, one who isn't influenced by the London football Mafia. Too many over-rated London based footballers have been selected over the years who wouldn't have got a look-in if they played for Newcastle, Blackburn etc

I dont think it really matters nowadays,if your good enough,then you should get it...foreign or not.

Iv voted English because I honestly believe that only an Englishman can understand the passion needed in the England team,to a foreigner its a job,well paid as well,period.Now finding one thats a different matter.Stevie Coppels English,he's done a good job at Reading with limited resources whether he could step up to the plate is debatable bur he couldnt do no worse than McLaren

Cant believe im gonna say this because i never thought i would but i want a foreign manager rather than English,purely because they might have the guts to stand up to the F.A and tell them whats wrong with the National Team and our players.
The problem is that its the F.A who are in charge of the National Team because they dictate English Football.
An Englishman would do a bungee jump to get the England Job but a Foreigner would want to change the System because he has no emotional ties towards English Football and would insist on changes due to proffesionalism rather than patrionism.
I Hated Erikkson when he was in charge because his off-field activities didnt make English Football Look good but at least he tried to change things with asking for a winter break.
The F.A has to decide what it wants
1: A Succesful National Team which ultimatly means restricting the influx of foreign imports so we can produce,groom and play more English players
or
2: The best League in the world which we have at the moment but means England will NEVER win anything because there will be more and more foreigners coming into our game.
They will plump for option 2 everytime because of the finance that rules our game,without the foreigners you dont have the money.
Get Mourinho in and get him to kick some arse

i seem to remember some people on here - 'patriots' - calling for an english manager no matter what. well, you got, you had one - sven and the quarter finals of the world cup or steve and non-qualifying for the euros - and essentially the same group of players.

two names instantly spring to mind: Fabio Capello and Jose Mourinho.

According to BBC website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7107060.stm), Capello wants the job...

Give it to him.

Quite agree.

Fabio would be my choice.

Quite agree.

Fabio would be my choice.
I would read this blokes CV before I made comments like this.Another loser

For a start the manager for a national side IMO should be a native of that country, otherwise there is that percentage missing which is National Pride/Passion. Foreign managers are ok for league sides as at the end of the day it is a job. When it comes to a national Coach they need that missing percentage to do the job right. Maclaren was the right nationality but wasn't up to the job.
I vote for Allan Shearer. He's worked on the factory floor, recently. He's achieved a lot and he knows what's what when it comes to picking players and playing the right game at the time.

I would read this blokes CV before I made comments like this.Another loser

Ok.

Fabio Capello.

AC Milan 1991/96

Unbeaten for 58 games, including a whole season.

4 Scudettos
3 Italian Supercups
1 European Cup

Real Madrid 1996/97

1 La Liga title

AS Roma 1999/04

1 Scudetto
1 Italian Supercup

Juventus 2004/06

2 Scudettos

Real Madrid 2006/07

1 La Liga title


Wow, you know what, you're right. Despite winning a league title with every club he's managed, Fabio Capello is a born loser and I can't understand why any club in the world, let alone national associations, would want to hire him...

How about the manager of Forest Green.

He managed to mastermind the cup upset of the last round.

Mind you, what am I talking about, it was against Roverum. I suppose it was hardly David vs Goliath, more like David vs Ronnie Corbett

I think Jurgen Klinsmann has said that he would like his next job to be in London.

I dont think the problem is whether the manager should be English or foreign,the main problem is who wants the job,especially while the same inept faces are at the F.A.I think you can forget the established international coaches,why the hell do they want to come and manage a side who are going to be on holiday next year when the second most important competiton is going on,its time to take a reality check,even though it hurts,England are no longer one of the major forces in international football and the way English Football is/has been run is not a pleasant prospect for any would be applicant.
Lets look at the names being put forward..O Neill,for some reason when he had his interview the F A didnt want him,so whats changed,why should they want him now.Mourinho,first class club manager but he's an hands on man and I dont think he would relish not working daily plus he's his own man and as shown by the Cloughie situation the F A wouldnt stand for that.Capello,again done a bit for clubs but not carried it through ends up a loser,negative ideas,bit sus he was in charge when Juventus were relegated for illegal goings on.
So what are we left with?The only person who seems to want the job other than Capello is Allardyce and whilst I would never question his commitment he would be taking a giant leap,He's not doing too badly at Newcastle,managers graveyard,but managing England is a different matter.
Harry Redknapp,a journeyman manager but always seemed to be in charge of struggling clubs but performed miracles with them,then he goes to Portsmouth gets some money and unlike others spends wisely and now has the making of a half decent team,could he take that step? my answer to that would be ask him I think he's a very genuine man and would answer truthfully,if he couldnt do it he would say so,and if he reckoned he could do it who's to doubt it.
Its OK throwing managers in the mix but the problems go much higher up,it is now time for a major shake up starting at the top,the FA,first sort the problems out that evidently exist there and then sort the coaching staff otherwise all we are going to get is the present commitee doing what it did 18 months ago..making a complete hash of it,when sven left the remainder of his staff should have gone with him,its very rare that doesnt happen in club football.
I see the current players have come out in support of McLaren,that doent surprise me because the most senior players,gerrard,lampard,terry etc knew their places were safe under him even if they were not in form,Beckham was an exception he was coming to the end of his career and to be frank I think McLaren was actually afraid of his popularity so he decided to get rid,now whether he was in the right or not,personally I thought he was wrong,he should have stuck to his guns and not bowed to public pressure,all that showed was the weakness in the man as did his decision not to resign but to wait to be sacked.

I think Jurgen Klinsmann has said that he would like his next job to be in London.
A German in charge of the England national side?

Are you trying to cause a riot :hihi:

A German in charge of the England national side?

Are you trying to cause a riot :hihi:

Remember who handed Klinsmann the European Championship trophy at Wembley in 1996?

The Queen. Another German.;)

Roy Keane has just been interviewed on Sky where he gave his views on the England situation! He believes that the problem lies with the ego's of the players, stating that there are too many 'big-headed' players! When asked what was needed by the next manager to get England back to where they should be, he replied, "Someone needs to go in and bang some heads together, bring them down a peg or two"!!!

Would Keane be the man to do just that? He does have a point!

A German in charge of the England national side?

Are you trying to cause a riot :hihi:
Nearly as bad as suggesting Sir Alex.:hihi: Bertie didn't work for us so can't see Klinsman doing a good job at England.

"Someone needs to go in and bang some heads together, bring them down a peg or two"!!!

Would Keane be the man to do just that?

Nobody can do that. There's no possible threat you can issue to them. They get so much fame and wealth from the club game that they have no reason to care about internationals.

I would read this blokes CV before I made comments like this.Another loser

Are you being serious??

Why would I need to read the CV of someone as famous as Capello??!!!

Are you saying you hadnt heard of him??!!!

Nobody can do that. There's no possible threat you can issue to them. They get so much fame and wealth from the club game that they have no reason to care about internationals.

David Beckham's marketability rocketed once he had been made captain of England. Would Frank Lampard be a commercial proposition if he wasn't part of the England set-up?

If anything, perhaps it is the willingness of the FA to cosy up to commercial interests that has weakened the England team. Who are the top brass at the FA? Most come from media or marketing.

A member of public was interviewed on Radio Hallam earlier today & that person's suggestion was -Teddy Sherringham:o:hihi:

The favourites for the job are Mourinho and O,neil
Personally i would be WELL chuffed because neither of them are yes men and both have vast managerial experience and have actually won silverwear for their club.
DO NOT give it to Shearer,he has no experience whatsover and is too comfortable in his Match of the Day armchair
Would not be dissapointed if Capello got the job
Dont Even Consider Wenger because he isnt stupid Enough to take it
One name that hasnt been Mentioned (for a good reason) is Stuart Pearce.....YES he would be a bloody awful choice but i guarantee the F.A are considering him

Are you being serious??

Why would I need to read the CV of someone as famous as Capello??!!!

Are you saying you hadnt heard of him??!!!

Either Rotherhammer is confusing Capello with someone else, or he doesn't like Italians....

Capello is a brilliant manager, and we should be pleased someone like him is interested in the England job.

Its a difficult job - England Manager. Whats the percentage of Premier league players eligible to play for England? 20%? 30%? Less than 20%?
Not much to choose from whereas Sir Alf, back in '66 had virtually a full pack to select from. Whether the new manager is foreign or not he's going to struggle unless he can find a few Charltons, Banks's, Moores, Balls etc.

Either Rotherhammer is confusing Capello with someone else, or he doesn't like Italians....

Capello is a brilliant manager, and we should be pleased someone like him is interested in the England job.

Trouble with Capello is that he won't know any of the players, so we'll still be seeing Fat Frank and Stevie G in an ineffectual central midfield in two years time.

Thinking about it, that's what I said about Scolari last time round and look how it turned out.

English Players Playing in The premiership is 20%

Trouble with Capello is that he won't know any of the players, so we'll still be seeing Fat Frank and Stevie G in an ineffectual central midfield in two years time.

Thinking about it, that's what I said about Scolari last time round and look how it turned out.

I doubt it somehow, Capello has enough intelligence and tactical nous to work out that two attack-minded players aren't going to balance well in the centre of midfield.

Moving to a foreign country, I doubt he had too much knowledge of the players he inherited at either of his spells in charge at Real Madrid, yet still won La Liga on both occasions.

For a foreign manager to be considered surely they have to speak English?

As far as I am aware Capello does not.

Neither does Lippi although I have heard he could work with Vialli who does and who also lives in London.

For a foreign manager to be considered surely they have to speak English?

As far as I am aware Capello does not.

Neither does Lippi although I have heard he could work with Vialli who does and who also lives in London.

Not necessarily. As long as he can communicate his ideas and tactics to the players, why should it be a problem? Capello didn't speak Spanish before managing Real Madrid, yet still won the league.

I doubt it somehow, Capello has enough intelligence and tactical nous to work out that two attack-minded players aren't going to balance well in the centre of midfield.

Moving to a foreign country, I doubt he had too much knowledge of the players he inherited at either of his spells in charge at Real Madrid, yet still won La Liga on both occasions.

But therein lies the great difference between club and international managers. He has a budget to buy in any players he needs and he has all day everyday to train those players how to play to make his system work.

At international level, you've got a limited pool of players which you can't work with apart from the few days before a match - time taken up by learning roles and responsibilities, set pieces etc.

But therein lies the great difference between club and international managers. He has a budget to buy in any players he needs and he has all day everyday to train those players how to play to make his system work.

At international level, you've got a limited pool of players which you can't work with apart from the few days before a match - time taken up by learning roles and responsibilities, set pieces etc.

Indeed, but every international manager in the world has the same problems, not just the England manager.

I'm not convinced that the language would be that much of a barrier.

Not necessarily. As long as he can communicate his ideas and tactics to the players, why should it be a problem?


Well the press for one and also being in contact with your players day in and day out is very different to seeing them every few months.

I don't see the language barrier helping to make an already difficult job any easier.

Trouble with Capello is that he won't know any of the players, so we'll still be seeing Fat Frank and Stevie G in an ineffectual central midfield in two years time.

Thinking about it, that's what I said about Scolari last time round and look how it turned out.

I am confused as to why you think Capello wont know Lampard and Gerrard!!

I tend to think Wenger knows all about Gattuso and Pirlo......

Well the press for one and also being in contact with your players day in and day out is very different to seeing them every few months.

I don't see the language barrier helping to make an already difficult job any easier.

Fair enough, though I don't think Capello would be fazed by it.

Besides, here are the alternatives that our press are touting for the job:

Jose Mourniho. I'd love to see that happen but I don't think he'll go for it.

Gus Hiddink. No chance. He'd be a great coup but he wont leave Russia for us.

Big Phil Scolari. Another one I'd like to see, but just can't picture it after what happened last time we tried to get him.

Sam Allardyce. Unlikely, he isn't doing a great job at Newcastle and the FA aren't likely to go anywhere near him after the Panorama investigation.

Martin O'Neill. I am totally and utterly baffled as to why he is rated so highly. He had success at Celtic, but lets face it, only a complete idiot wouldn't. He's hardly taken Aston Villa to new hights.

Steve Coppell. Our media would destroy him. He isn't cut out for international football either.

Alan Shearer. The logic seems to be thay he can have the 'Van Basten effect' on our national side. I just can't see it, and I don't think he'd be up for it having already said he isn't ready to manage a club the size of Newcastle.

I am confused as to why you think Capello wont know Lampard and Gerrard!!

I tend to think Wenger knows all about Gattuso and Pirlo......

.....who play for the same team. Their effectiveness as a combination is there for anyone to see, every weekend.

What I meant was, a manager of his standing will know ALL about their inability to play together.

Well, Mourinho has ruled himself out. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7107060.stm)

What I meant was, a manager of his standing will know ALL about their inability to play together.

Something that managed to elude Mclaren despite being part of the set up - and elude you too funnily enough (cheap shot I know)

Well it is quite a few months, unfortunately, before any British team will be playing an International. So why don't they have an old fashioned Home International tournament at the end of the season. This will keep the players occupied and not feel left out when Euro 2008 is going on and it will give the managers a chance to sort their players out.

I thought there were only rumours via "friends" that Mourinho didn't want the job. Let's wait till the smooth one says it with his own, never moving, lips.

If anyone's discovered the secret of reanimating dead people, perhaps it might be worthwhile investigating Sir Alf Ramsey's availability?

If anyone's discovered the secret of reanimating dead people, perhaps it might be worthwhile investigating Sir Alf Ramsey's availability?

Maybe Winston Churchill?

If anyone's discovered the secret of reanimating dead people, perhaps it might be worthwhile investigating Sir Alf Ramsey's availability?

How is it going with the new girlfriend Bas ?

News conference at Villa Park:Martin O' Neil has just been asked about the vacant England job. He catagorically ruled out the move! O' Neil will NOT be our next England manager!!!!!

Yesterday in a news conference at Anfield, Rafa had something to say:

During the interview, whilst talking about Liverpool players performances for England the media journalist mistakingly called Rafa - The England Manager. Rafa smirked and replied "not yet"! The media suddenly latched onto this and asked him "why, would you be interested in the England job?", Rafa lifted his eyebrows, shrugged his shoulders and replied, "Who knows, you never know what will happen in the future"!Watch it on Sky Sports News, it's all they are talking about. Rafa has now been installed as 4th favourite to take the job!!! O'Neil has ruled himself out which now makes Rafa 3rd favorite!

Mourinho for Liverpool maybe?

Now Benitez says he would be interested in the England job after having a "tiff" with his chairman. wonder how many would be keen if they told them it only pulled 50K a year. (not that it does before anyone get's the wrong idea)

Now Benitez says he would be interested in the England job after having a "tiff" with his chairman. wonder how many would be keen if they told them it only pulled 50K a year. (not that it does before anyone get's the wrong idea)
I've seen the press conference where Rafa indicates that he would be open to negotiation regarding the vacant Englands managers job, and he looked keen on the idea!!!!!!!!

In my eyes that shows a total lack of respect to Liverpool and it's supporters. I like Rafa, and think he has done a good job considering the quality of the teams he has been up against in England since he took over but, for me, after this blatent disregard for the job he already has, he should be shown the door! And judging by the comments of the new American owners recently, he may well be shown just that!!!!!!!!!

O'Neill's announced that he doesn't want it... (phew!) So who are the favourites now? Capello and Redknapp :huh: Just hope Jose is playing mind-games and wants the job on his own terms...

I've seen the press conference where Rafa indicates that he would be open to negotiation regarding the vacant Englands managers job, and he looked keen on the idea!!!!!!!!

In my eyes that shows a total lack of respect to Liverpool and it's supporters. I like Rafa, and think he has done a good job considering the quality of the teams he has been up against in England since he took over but, for me, after this blatent disregard for the job he already has, he should be shown the door! And judging by the comments of the new American owners recently, he may well be shown just that!!!!!!!!!

If Raffa is shown the door will it be a rotating one?

If Raffa is shown the door will it be a rotating one?
It doesn't matter really does it? Whatever type of door, or whoever takes his place, it is a certainty that Livepool will still have Everton in it's shadow!!!!!!!! :hihi:

O'Neill's announced that he doesn't want it... (phew!) So who are the favourites now? Capello and Redknapp :huh: Just hope Jose is playing mind-games and wants the job on his own terms...

I think his terms would include FIFA allowing him to pick players of any nationality for England - you can't just go out and buy internationals.

theres very few good candidates...steve mclaren was a poor choice in my mind...and always was... i mean what had he done to prove himself? f all thats what.

Basically i reckon you need to pick someone who has MANAGED a team...not BOUGHT a team..because you cant buy new english players..you have to work with what you have... im struggling to think of anyone good... Terry Venables maybe... if he'd do it? other than that maybe it'll be some unproven former england player...Shearer? but i dont think there is a clear candidate who could do well. Morihinio (cant spell) would be fun and theres a few chelsea players he brought in thru the squad...but he does like flashing the cash and if he cant buy his way out of trouble he maybe no good.

ohhh actually I'd love redknapp to take over, as a west ham fan i always thought he did a great job and he's not afraid to put in young players if they good enough ..lampard, cole, ferdinand, carrick etc.. and he wouldnt put up with any 'star player' crap and would drop them.

Anyone in Mourhino's position at Chelsea would have flashed the cash! But don't forget (a) he was not in control over where the cash was flashed (viz. Shevchenko, Ballack); it was his lack of control over who would be available for him to select that started opening the door to his exit, and (b) I don't recall Porto buying their way to the Champions League title...

I don't recall Porto buying their way to the Champions League title...
Apparently (from what most people say on this forum), winning the Champions League doesn't qualify you as being a good coach/manager!

Apparently (from what most people say on this forum), winning the Champions League doesn't qualify you as being a good coach/manager!

Where's the icon for gobsmacked :huh: :hihi:

Where's the icon for gobsmacked :huh: :hihi:
:hihi: Seriously!! When Rafa won it with Liverpool and then got them to another final 2 years later, he was pronounced as being 'lucky'. Apparently, Raffa is a very poor manager that isn't even good enough to be considered for the England job!!!!! :huh:

:hihi: Seriously!! When Rafa won it with Liverpool and then got them to another final 2 years later, he was pronounced as being 'lucky'. Apparently, Raffa is a very poor manager that isn't even good enough to be considered for the England job!!!!! :huh:

You mean you have to be good to get the England job? This is radical thinking at last!

Apparently (from what most people say on this forum), winning the Champions League doesn't qualify you as being a good coach/manager!

It doesn't make you as good as winning a league competition would do; knockout tournaments are always largely about luck. Any good team can have one bad game in the quarter-finals and go out; in a round-robin league, one bad game won't stop them winning it.

That said, you've got to be a good manager to get a team into the Champions' League latter stages at all. It's more a matter of luck which of the last sixteen turns out to be winners.

It doesn't make you as good as winning a league competition would do.
As you know, I was refering to Benitez in the post in question!
I agree with all you're previous post, but the point above has no relivance on this forum either! Rafa has won 2 league competition's, aswell as the Champions League yet he is still classed as a poor manager :huh:

You mean you have to be good to get the England job? This is radical thinking at last!

:hihi: Like you're style :hihi:

Realistically, I'm wondering if any top class manager in their right mind would want the England job given the usual absurd expectations of the majority of press and supporters and our lack of quality international players (never mind world class).

Realistically, I'm wondering if any top class manager in their right mind would want the England job given the usual absurd expectations of the majority of press and supporters and our lack of quality international players (never mind world class).

Since Capello's already stated he does want it, either he's mad, or you're wrong. :D

Since Capello's already stated he does want it, either he's mad, or you're wrong. :D

Mad as hatter, no doubt about it :D

The reason I voted English is that I believe it would give more cohesion to the team and supporters.
Imagine we get such as a German, you don't need to be racist to realise the rivalry twixt the nations in football.
How would the mood be if we lost to Germany in a vital match, that some may say was due in any part to dubious selection/ tactics /poor use of substitutes?
When in such as a world cup qualifying round run up England only need a point same as Germany, then the match gets drawn, how would another Nations team react to what could smell like collaboration?
Klinsman is such a patriot that He did ever so well in ensuring Germany's entry into the previous world cup whilst being based in the USA.
I realise the big money that the FA pay to managers is enough to turn anyone's head away from their own patriotic feelings, but there is always the deep seated patriot inside of most passionate humans. To be any good at managing footballers I suspect that these are two of the minimum requirements i.e. being human and being passionate.

"passion" as in "headless chickens"? Isn't it time we laid this to rest? Football, in the rest of the world, moved on several decades ago. And "the rest of the world" is who win competitions.

"passion" as in "headless chickens"? Isn't it time we laid this to rest? Football, in the rest of the world, moved on several decades ago. And "the rest of the world" is who win competitions.

Wise words.

To call Benitez a poor or lucky manager is ridiculous,what he has done for Liverpool has been brilliant,personally i think he tinkers a bit too much and cant really get mi head round why he doesnt play Crouch in league games but before he came along Liverpool were going nowhere fast and winning nothing.
But id still put him behind Mourinho and O,Neil as far as England Mangager is concerned